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Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, John. Okay. There we go. Yep.

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Yeah, that's on. Okay.

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Welcome to the meeting of District Five.

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I see some familiar faces and some new faces. Welcome. Nice to see you here.

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As always, I mention this is your meeting, so we have a certain protocol we follow

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on our agenda, which I'll explain, and any questions you have will be addressed in

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this meeting, that I can assure you.

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We begin with our roll call, which is our officers going down the line.

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We have Walter Martin.

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Present.

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Gary Knoll. Here. Geri Pelissier.

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Here.

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Mark Schweikert.

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Here.

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And I'm Gary Cater, your chairman for today.

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If you would please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by a brief moment

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of silence in remembrance of our military service members. Right hand over heart.

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That means face the roof. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of

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America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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You may be seated. Thank you.

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Okay.

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Again, welcome to the meeting. Is there anyone here who has not been to a meeting

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previously and knows what the protocol is? Good. Then I get to explain it again.

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The things that are listed on your agenda will be addressed during the meeting.

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At any time when we're discussing those, you have the right to raise your hand and

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ask questions.

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If you have a question, we would ask you to proceed to the podium, give us your

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name and your address, and then proceed with your question.

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If it is not on the agenda and you have a question, at the end of the meeting, we

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have time for anybody in the audience to get up and speak and ask their questions,

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and hopefully we'll be able to answer it for you.

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Anyway, thank you for being here. Appreciate it.

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First order of business on the consent agenda is the approval of the minutes.

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Minutes are from July 7th, 2026. It does require a motion.

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So the audience is aware, if it looks like we're going quickly through these

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things, it's because we get them a week in advance, so we get to read them before

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we come in and don't have to spend a whole lot of time doing that here.

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So any questions regarding the minutes? Any changes, modifications?

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Hearing none, I'd entertain a motion to accept them.

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So moved.

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Second. It's been moved and seconded to accept the minutes of the meeting of July

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7th, 2026. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? So moved. Thank you.

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Okay. Next item on the agenda, our meeting schedule.

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Now, we have our meetings, I know previously, right up until September.

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This will be for the following year.

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If there's any conflicts or questions, this is a good time to bring them up.

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Otherwise, we also need, I believe, a motion to accept these.

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Yeah.

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Yes, sir. Mark.

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When we adopted this new schedule last year-

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Mm-hmm

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... I raised the point that

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our board meeting is going to fall one day after two holidays, Labor Day and

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Independence Day. It looks like it's going to happen every year

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with the way it is.

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It is.

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So just

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seems to me that creates issues for staff who are taking vacations

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and boards, but I also understand that this affects all the board meetings and-

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It does

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... and it's a big deal, but I don't know.

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It seems to me they could pick a different schedule.

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But anyway, this year it was,

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I think, 4th of July, the actual holiday fell on a Friday.

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Right.

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This coming year, it's going to fall on a Monday, and our board meeting's going to

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be on Tuesday.

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Mm-hmm.

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And a similar kind of thing with Labor Day.

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So-

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So those are the only two that really are going to cause a problem

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... but otherwise, it's not a problem.

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There's a possibility then we would not have a quorum, and that would be the same.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, which is not a good thing either.

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That's right.

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Is there a possibility of just those two dates because they're holidays, having to

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move a meeting?

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So generally, we only move a board meeting date or a proposed schedule if it falls

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on the actual holiday itself. But staff resources will always be available

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on those days to support the board meetings. That's part of our responsibility.

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I guess there's no way around them.

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I mean, generally, no.

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I-

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Well, it's going to mess you up for those two holidays.

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Yeah. This year.

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And you won't be able to take a long vacation this year.

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Well, be aware we may be missing then some people, so just so you know.

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Okay. Thank you, Mark.

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Doesn't satisfy your question, I know.

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No.

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Unfortunately.

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It's just an observation.

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Okay. Any other questions regarding the schedule?

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I'd like to have a motion on the record that we do accept it, requires approval.

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So moved.

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A second?

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Second.

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Okay. Been moved and seconded to accept the schedule as presented for our meetings

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coming up in 2026 and '27. Yes, sir.

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Name and address, please.

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My name is Lee Gilkin,

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2155 Dungeon Drive. As I pass this agenda around, somebody's going to ask

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me for a brief explanation of the approval of

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District 4's release from the Seventh Amendment, Amended Interlocal.

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What is that? Is there a brief explanation what I can tell people?

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That's the next item.

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We're not on that. We're not on that. We're not on that, Lee.

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That's the next item on the agenda.

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I'm sorry. I thought that's where you were.

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Nope. Just our schedule for meetings.

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That's coming up next, though, so you might as well stand right there.

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Let me get a vote on it, okay? We have a move and a second to accept the schedule

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as presented. All those in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye. Okay. Opposed?

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I'm a nay.

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You're a nay. Okay. That's good. We got some variety here.

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Okay.

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It has a majority vote, therefore it is approved, and we will go with that

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schedule. Okay. Next item on the agenda, approval of the DCD Number 4 release from

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the Seventh Amended Interlocal Agreement for the Architectural Review Committee.

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We're going to be dealing with probably several of these.

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We had one last meeting, I think-

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... even before, if I'm not mistaken.

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Perhaps we could get a brief explanation before Lee speaks how that works, why

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we're doing that.

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Yes. So good morning, board members.

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So this item mirrors the action you took last month, where District 1 elected

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to use the architectural review hearing officer.

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District 4 has taken the same action.

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And again, as the Interlocal reads, it does require consent from all parties to

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remove them from the Interlocal. So that would be Districts 1,

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4, and 6 that have been removed from this Interlocal and will be

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utilizing the architectural review hearing officer.

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Okay. So in other words, they are looking to leave the normal architectural review

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like we have here. We have our representative here today, and they've chose to go

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with almost like a hearing officer in order to do that.

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Several other districts have done that, but they can't do it unless they are

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released from the original agreement, which had all of the districts as part of

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that. So the districts have to vote to allow them to leave that agreement and then

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go independently. That's what this is really about.

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It's kind of a not-to-get-excited-about item.

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Is there a specific part of that agreement that District 4 and the others oppose?

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Well, the agreement says that all parties are a party to it.

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So in order for them to leave, we have to give permission for them to leave that

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agreement and then go directly with a hearing officer.

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But is there a part of that agreement that people in those

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districts object to?

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Object to what?

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Is this a-

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You have to speak into the mic a little more-

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Yeah. Okay

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... so we can hear you.

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Is this agreement-

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... something that people would not know about?

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The

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Interlocal Agreement, is there a part of that that's objectionable?

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Bridget, you want to address that? Do you understand?

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So each party that is

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participating in the Architectural Review Committee, they have a primary and a

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secondary representative that serve on the ARC There have been some

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districts where they have no volunteers. They have advertised for volunteers.

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They don't have any. No one has shown any interest.

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So rather than continue to participate in the ARC structure as it exists

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today, they have elected to have a hired, engaged representative

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to review all of their applications on behalf of that board.

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Okay. That clarifies that I think. So thanks very much. Okay. Thank you, Lee.

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Any other questions?

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No.

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Okay. That does not require a motion, does it, Rita?

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Yes, we do need a motion.

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Okay. Everybody clear on what we're looking to do here? Just release them?

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We would need a motion in order to do that.

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So moved. Second.

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It's been moved and seconded. Any opposition? No. Okay.

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All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? Okay. It's been motioned and approved. Thank you.

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New business. Mr. Supervisor Jerry Knoll, who is our primary representative on

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the PWAC committee. Do you have your report, sir?

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I do. PWAC met yesterday morning in this room.

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A couple items that I think are of importance,

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the

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big one being the

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handicapped bathrooms. All our handicapped bathrooms in all of our

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executive courses and in the various rec centers have been

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checked and reviewed, and they are all ADA compliant.

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There was some question about that compliance, and a couple people had questions,

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so that has been investigated and reviewed and reported back.

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There's a National Night Out October 6th

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that's coming up. There will be more information coming out on that.

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The big item for the day was the review of the gate

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strikes and the conditions of the entrance and exit gates-

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Mm-hmm

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... and the number of strikes and the cost involved.

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There are a boatload of strikes on these gates on a regular

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basis, some gates more than others.

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But when there is a strike and the vehicle that struck the gate can be

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identified, they send that individual a bill for

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$250

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to cover the cost of putting the arm back in place, and if there's additional

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damage, those. On average,

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the damage is relatively minor and the costs are less than the 250.

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But every once in a while, there will be one that's a little more expensive.

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But that does cover it. Where they've had problems is in collecting.

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Surprise, surprise.

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Surprise.

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there've been a number of suggestions as to some way to increase the collection.

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And the council for PWAC and district management are looking at those

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options, and they will be bringing it back to PWAC in the future.

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Essentially, that's it. There were some other minor things that were discussed, but

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that was the big one, and that took a fair amount of time.

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There was a presentation by our risk management department-

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Mm-hmm

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... and a review of the statistics and some of the problems.

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Interestingly enough, the party that owes us the most money for gates that

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have been struck and not been reimbursed, and the bills have not been paid,

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is Amazon.

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Really?

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Uh-huh.

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Interesting.

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They're working on it. And

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Ryder Truck was another one. Or not quite Ryder, Penske, I believe it is.

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Was another one, but they've worked that out with them, and they've settled that

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off. So they're working on Amazon to get our

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just rewards back, if you will.

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I would hope so, yeah.

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But it's been a-

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A fairly profitable company.

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Yeah. But it's been a bit of a struggle. But they're working on it.

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We're coming up with some new ways.

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One of the things that is being considered, because gate strikes that happen as a

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result of a golf cart, it is very difficult to identify the golf cart.

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No license plate. Yeah.

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And the sheriff's department has just recently instituted a registration program

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for golf carts.

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Okay. Hmm.

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It's brand new. It's only a few days old.

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But if you register your golf cart, you get two stickers, one that goes on the rear

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bumper and another one that's much smaller that goes someplace that you can select,

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where you can hide it.

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Is it mandatory?

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If you register. There's no cost to register your vehicle.

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And it's voluntary to do it.

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Yes.

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But the idea being that if we could work with them, that sticker that's on the

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rear bumper would allow us to identify the golf cart that struck the gate.

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If your golf cart is stolen and that sticker is removed, there's another sticker

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that you place somewhere else on the golf cart, much smaller, and only you know

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where you put it. And hopefully it'll be there, and if they find the golf cart and

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they find that sticker, they can bring it back to you.

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I guess there's two things with that that seem strange.

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One, if it's voluntary, if you're a gate striker and you don't like the gates,

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you're certainly not going to get one of those and put it on your golf cart, so you

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can be identified. And that's really the purpose of it, to find out just who those

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people are. Is there any thought about making it mandatory if you're going to drive

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your golf cart in the villages, on the golf cart paths, and on the roads?

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I know they're Sumter County roads, not ours, but the villa roads are ours.

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Could we require that to make sure that we know exactly who's driving that golf

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cart?

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That I don't know. I think that would go to legal. I could be wrong.

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And it would also go to the sheriff as well.

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Right.

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Because they're the ones who are administering the program.

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And at this point, I know their program is voluntary.

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I'd like to see us work with them, though, because a program like that could solve

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this problem. People are going to be a little more...

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I've literally seen people drive through the gates, get out of their cars, and push

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them off, and then drive through. Seriously. I've been here 20 years.

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I think I've seen it all. But the bottom line is that we changed over to slip

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washers, as you know, nylon washers, so when the gates get hit, they get stripped,

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and it's not a major thing to replace the gate.

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When they were bolted on, we were paying hundreds of dollars to fix those per gate.

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People are still doing that. If it's some form of protest, if they don't like gates

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and don't want gates,

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then if we could see a pattern where there are certain gates that are being hit

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more often, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have somebody

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look, get a volunteer to sit there.

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So that is a Sumter County program. That's not a district program.

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And I know, not Mr. Briones, but Mr.

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Stone had looked at that from

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a question that came up, I believe at either an AAC or project-wide meeting, and

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that traffic enforcement is not under the purview of special districts.

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Yeah.

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So that is with the county instituting that, and then the city of Wildwood are the

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two right now that are allowing for voluntary registration of carts.

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So the answer is there's really no way to prevent a golf cart from going through

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there, busting a gate, and being able to know who they are if there's no markings

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on it or plate or sticker or anything else.

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It's very difficult. It's a challenge.

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As I've said many times, you can't legislate stupidity, so.

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This may not solve all of them, but it has potential maybe to reduce that number

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of unidentifiable gate strikes through this.

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It'll take a while, and there's talk of some sort of outreach to

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encourage people to register their golf carts with the county sheriff at various-

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It's a good effort

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... village functions and Government Day and so on and so on.

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Okay. Anything else on that to it?

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That should do it.

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Okay. We've talked about this quite often in the meeting.

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Our PWAC meeting is usually the day before we have our actual district meeting

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here. It was yesterday, I believe. Correct, Jerry?

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Yeah.

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Okay. In the past, there was a week between the time PWAC had their meeting and we

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had ours. One of the things in setting up PWAC is the five board members wanted to

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have input into some of the things that were being discussed at PWAC.

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We had the ability to do that in the past because we had a timeframe in between

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that we could take a look at these things. That now is not existent.

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Again, things are done on the one day. We have a meeting the next day.

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However, we have a representative, which is Mr.

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Knoll, who is our primary representative, and he has been trusted, as well he

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should be after being here almost 20 years on the board,

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to make decisions on our behalf. We have an agreement that if anything does come up

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that Mr. Knoll feels could be controversial and the board needs to know about it,

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that could be delayed for 30 days in PWAC from me taking action on it-

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Yes

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... until it comes back to us. So that was a problem that we were concerned about

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for quite a while. I believe that has been resolved, and I want the board to

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understand that Mr. Knoll is our representative, and I would back whatever decision

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he makes on that because he's had enough time, and he knows how things work here.

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So we in agreement on that? There's no motion needed, but yes?

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Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

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Good. Okay, we can move on then.

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We have a public hearing coming up.

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Yeah.

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Quick overview of the public hearing process.

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In public hearings, the Board of Supervisors acts as both a judge and jury.

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In that capacity, the board will consider evidence, make findings of fact, and draw

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conclusions of law. During the hearing, the board may only receive evidence from

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district staff, the property owner, and those that will be substantially and

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directly affected by the outcome of the board's decision.

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At the conclusion of the public hearing, the board will need to determine whether

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staff presented competent, substantial evidence in support of finding of the

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alleged violation. And if so, the board must enter an order of enforcement against

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the property owner. If there's anyone here to testify as to case number D5-11-26,

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please stand and raise your right hand.

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Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony and evidence you're about to

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give in this case is the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Okay. At this point, we hereby open up the meeting as a public hearing,

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and you may proceed.

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Thank you. Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

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Today, I have before you case number D5-11-26, Village

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Community Development District number five versus Sergeant P.

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Watts Jr., 2454 Southern Oak Street, unit 652, lot

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34. Violation of the district's rule to bring about deed compliance, and

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specifically the rule that states, "Each owner shall keep his home site neat and

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clean, and the grass cut and edged at all times.

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If an owner does not adhere to the above regulations, then the work may be

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performed on behalf of the owner, and the cost shall be charged to the owner." On

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May 15th, 2026, a complaint was received regarding weeds.

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Staff verified the violation and also observed overgrown grass, vines growing on

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the bushes, and bushes too close to the neighboring home.

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During the inspection, a realtor was present at the property managing its sale on

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behalf of the bank. Staff informed the realtor of the violation.

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The realtor indicated he had already contacted the bank regarding the poor

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condition of the lawn and landscaping beds.

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A deed restriction reminder was written on May 18th.

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The initial and second letters were sent out on May 28th and June 16th.

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And after following the procedures of compliance of external deed restrictions, a

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notice of public hearing was sent by regular and certified mail on July 2nd.

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On July 16th, a power of attorney for Mr.

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Watts contacted staff and indicated that the property should be in compliance.

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Staff explained that the property was last inspected on June 25th, and although the

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lawn had been mowed, the weeds, vines, and bushes too close to the neighboring home

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still remained in violation. When asked if Mr.

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Watts still owned the home, the power of attorney stated that technically he did.

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However, she indicated the matter was complex.

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During staff's inspection of the property on August 7th, it was determined that the

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property remained out of compliance.

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Staff's recommendation would be to find the owner in violation of the district's

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deed compliance rule, as cited by the deed compliance staff.

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The owner has seven days to remove the weeds to bring that portion of the property

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into compliance. If the weeds are removed and that portion of the property is

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brought into compliance within seven days of the order of enforcement, that portion

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of case number D5-11-26 shall be closed.

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If the weeds are not removed and that portion of the property is not brought into

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compliance within seven days of the order of enforcement, authorize the district to

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maintain the property and impose a minimum of a $250 fine or the actual cost of

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maintenance, whichever is more, to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

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Authorize the district to maintain the property twice a month in the summer and

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once a month in the winter as needed, and impose a $250 fine each time the

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district maintains the property.

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If the owner prohibits the district from maintaining the property, then the owner

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shall be fined an initial amount of $150 and an additional $50 per day

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until the property is brought into compliance.

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The owner has seven days to remove the rogue vine growth and trim the bushes at

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least two feet away from the neighboring home to bring that portion of the property

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into compliance. If the rogue vine growth is removed and the bushes are trimmed at

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least two feet away from the neighboring home within seven days of the order of

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enforcement, that portion of case number D5-11-26 shall be closed.

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If the rogue vine growth is not removed and the bushes are not trimmed away from

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the neighboring home and that portion of the property is not brought into

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compliance within seven days of the order of enforcement, authorize the district to

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maintain the property and impose $150 per maintenance hour fine, plus a

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$100 administrative fee to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

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If the owner prohibits the district from maintaining the property, then a fine of

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initial amount of $150 shall be imposed and an additional $50 per day

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until the property is brought into compliance.

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If the weeds are removed, the rogue vine growth is removed, and the bushes are

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trimmed at least two feet away from the neighboring home within seven days of the

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order of enforcement, case number D5-11-26 shall be closed.

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If the property is not brought into compliance as required herein, staff shall

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record this order of enforcement claim of lien in the public records of Sumter

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County, Florida. It is the property owner's responsibility to contact the Community

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Standards department to request a deed compliance officer revisit the property to

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confirm compliance. If the fine reaches $1,500, the case shall be turned over to

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district counsel to seek all available remedies, which may include initiating a

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lawsuit and seeking an injunction against the property owner.

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The property owner is responsible for reimbursing the district for all attorneys'

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fees, costs, and expenses associated with or related to this order of enforcement

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claim of lien. If the property is brought into compliance and all fines are paid,

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the chairman authorizes staff to execute and record a satisfaction and release of

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claim of lien. Chairman, to execute the order of enforcement, and I'm here to

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answer any questions that you may have.

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We are dealing directly with someone who has power of attorney for the owner.

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Is that correct?

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Correct.

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Or the owner themselves?

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Correct. When I spoke with the power of attorney, the homeowner was there as well.

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They were?

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Yes.

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Okay. So the homeowner's aware that we're taking this action.

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Correct.

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And there is nobody here today to speak on behalf of the homeowner?

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No, I did get a new mailing address when I was speaking with the power of attorney,

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so he's located somewhere else in Florida.

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Okay. Yeah. This is nothing new, obviously. We hear this all the time.

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Unfortunately, neighbors have to live next door to people who just don't care about

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their property, and that needs to stop as best we can do it.

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In this particular case, I think it would make sense to move. Any other questions?

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We'll close the hearing and then discuss. No? Okay.

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Public hearing's hereby closed. Discussion regarding the presentation.

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Comments, supervisors?

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A question. As the villages grow and the population ages, it

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seems like it's going to be more and more common where we're going to have-

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Yep

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... these out of trust or whatever.

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What's the percentage as the villages age of the owner deceased?

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Mm-hmm.

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Is it a small percent of the total number of home-- In other words, is there

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something we should get excited about, or that's just a normal part of growth?

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Unfortunately, it's just a normal part of the process. It's hard to say.

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I don't have a percentage. But we do find that a lot of times the homes that we do

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bring before boards for public hearings are something where the homeowner has

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passed away, or it's with a reverse mortgage and the kids don't have the funds to

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take it over and whatnot, so it gets reverted back to the bank. So we do see that.

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That is common.

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Any other questions?

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So the audience knows, the case quite often is we can still impose fines.

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That does not mean that they are going to pay them.

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So as that continues and they accumulate, when they reach a specific amount, we

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then will file judgment against the property, a lien on the property.

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So if they try and get rid of the property, borrow against it, whatever, they can't

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do so until our lien is satisfied. So it is a method where eventually we can get

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that money back again, but it can take a lot of time.

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We have some out there for a very long time.

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It's frustrating, but the way things are down here, that's about the only way we

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can handle it, unless somebody has more creative ideas how we could do it. Okay.

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At this point then, you have read it.

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I know you have all the photographs of the property.

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What would your determination be? Any other questions? Any comments?

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No.

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I move we adopt the recommendation of staff. It seems consistent with policy.

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Okay.

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I would second that move.

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Been moved and seconded to accept staff's recommendation regarding the specific

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case. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

476
00:28:31.503 --> 00:28:31.503
Aye.

477
00:28:31.548 --> 00:28:32.208
Aye.

478
00:28:32.223 --> 00:28:33.948
Opposed? So moved.

479
00:28:34.188 --> 00:28:34.938
Thank you, board.

480
00:28:35.029 --> 00:28:37.938
Thank you. It's a lot of work on your part. We greatly appreciate it.

481
00:28:39.558 --> 00:28:41.118
Okay, old business.

482
00:28:42.468 --> 00:28:43.848
Who's going to enlighten us on that?

483
00:28:44.358 --> 00:28:48.919
Good morning again. So your first item is your standing item on old business, the

484
00:28:48.948 --> 00:28:53.029
tractor deed compliance complaint that will be before you at your November board

485
00:28:53.058 --> 00:28:58.458
meeting. The next item, number two, is provide an update on Due West Drive.

486
00:28:58.548 --> 00:28:58.788
Yes.

487
00:28:59.568 --> 00:29:04.158
So staff has noted that the old foundation was removed in preparation to lay a new

488
00:29:04.218 --> 00:29:07.998
foundation. So there is activity taking place at that location.

489
00:29:08.478 --> 00:29:10.818
There is considerable activity. I've seen it. Thank you.

490
00:29:11.208 --> 00:29:11.748
And then item-

491
00:29:12.139 --> 00:29:13.008
Question.

492
00:29:13.053 --> 00:29:13.053
Oh, sure.

493
00:29:13.068 --> 00:29:13.264
Yes, sir.

494
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.093
Due West property, because I go through Due West as a shortcut to get over to-

495
00:29:18.348 --> 00:29:20.358
Yes. Square house is down from me, so I see it every day.

496
00:29:20.419 --> 00:29:23.193
I see. And it seems like things are at a standstill.

497
00:29:23.419 --> 00:29:28.488
The driveway has been cleared, but the actual structure seems to be unchanged over

498
00:29:28.518 --> 00:29:29.389
the past month.

499
00:29:30.408 --> 00:29:32.658
Some structure, I believe they've left the walls up.

500
00:29:32.688 --> 00:29:33.904
There's a purpose for doing that.

501
00:29:33.933 --> 00:29:34.998
Yes, the walls are there, yes.

502
00:29:35.058 --> 00:29:37.938
Yeah, and they have to do that until they get to the point they're ready to do the

503
00:29:37.968 --> 00:29:38.568
complete structure.

504
00:29:38.613 --> 00:29:40.264
But I know that the driveway has been-

505
00:29:40.353 --> 00:29:42.078
It's for legal reasons and tax reasons.

506
00:29:42.318 --> 00:29:42.558
Okay.

507
00:29:42.678 --> 00:29:47.958
Yeah, so that same thing. Any other questions on that? Okay.

508
00:29:48.228 --> 00:29:50.448
And then the last item is item number three.

509
00:29:51.318 --> 00:29:56.899
Last month, you had case C510-26 before you, and there was

510
00:29:56.958 --> 00:30:01.669
evidence and testimony provided from neighbors about other relatives residing in

511
00:30:01.728 --> 00:30:05.328
the community, the sisters of the homeowner.

512
00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:10.788
So staff did work with them to obtain the addresses for the sisters and send

513
00:30:10.818 --> 00:30:15.708
information to them. So we don't know that that will generate any response, but

514
00:30:15.768 --> 00:30:17.268
that did take place.

515
00:30:17.779 --> 00:30:21.318
Yeah. Actually, this one bothers me a great deal.

516
00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:25.968
I googled this thing, so I'm not taking credit for it, but I googled it and started

517
00:30:25.983 --> 00:30:29.238
doing a little research, and it's amazing what you can find on Google.

518
00:30:29.538 --> 00:30:33.139
We had the sisters' names on there. We had copies of the will on there.

519
00:30:33.589 --> 00:30:37.458
Pretty much anything you're looking for on this property was available.

520
00:30:38.012 --> 00:30:38.012
Wow.

521
00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:43.458
That was then turned over to our colleagues here, and they were able to

522
00:30:43.488 --> 00:30:47.988
proceed. So now we're actually dealing with three people that own that property.

523
00:30:48.078 --> 00:30:51.558
We thought it was one, but the sisters still are considered legal owners of that

524
00:30:51.589 --> 00:30:55.399
property. They're all part of it. So they also can be held responsible.

525
00:30:55.458 --> 00:30:59.973
So it takes a little time, a little bit of effort, but I want our people in Ocean

526
00:31:00.018 --> 00:31:04.188
District 5 that we take this very seriously, and we do follow up on it on your

527
00:31:04.248 --> 00:31:06.828
behalf. So any questions?

528
00:31:07.143 --> 00:31:07.294
Thank you.

529
00:31:07.294 --> 00:31:10.248
Yes, sir. Questions? Board? Okay.

530
00:31:12.228 --> 00:31:13.548
That takes care of old business.

531
00:31:19.428 --> 00:31:24.078
Okay, next item. The following items are three items that are informational items

532
00:31:24.139 --> 00:31:29.628
only. What that means is they are routine items that we get every month, standard

533
00:31:29.688 --> 00:31:35.448
items. They are reviewed by all of our supervisors, and we usually agree or

534
00:31:35.568 --> 00:31:40.053
disagree with either individual ones that we disagree or all of them en masse for

535
00:31:40.098 --> 00:31:46.008
acceptance. We've received the financial statements, the report from DPM, property

536
00:31:46.068 --> 00:31:49.728
management, and the village's development public hearing updates.

537
00:31:51.018 --> 00:31:52.399
I assume everybody's reviewed those.

538
00:31:52.458 --> 00:31:54.529
Are there any questions on any of the three items?

539
00:31:56.118 --> 00:31:58.998
Okay. We're in agreement to accept them then?

540
00:31:59.628 --> 00:31:59.868
Yes.

541
00:32:00.258 --> 00:32:02.928
Okay. We don't need a motion on that, correct?

542
00:32:03.018 --> 00:32:04.128
No motion necessary.

543
00:32:05.764 --> 00:32:08.297
Okay. District reports. Save the date.

544
00:32:08.988 --> 00:32:11.208
DPM, you've got your own night coming up, huh?

545
00:32:12.378 --> 00:32:17.178
Yes, they do have a night with DPM, and unfortunately, this PDF is having trouble

546
00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:19.218
loading. Oh, here we go. Okay.

547
00:32:19.323 --> 00:32:19.323
Hey.

548
00:32:19.339 --> 00:32:21.678
So Wednesday, September 23rd,

549
00:32:23.328 --> 00:32:28.608
we would invite you to the Rohan Recreation Center from 4:00 to 6:00 PM.

550
00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:32.672
DPM will be in attendance, District Property Management, and all of their divisions

551
00:32:33.228 --> 00:32:37.128
to highlight all of the activities and functions that they do throughout the

552
00:32:37.188 --> 00:32:41.928
community on a daily basis. So it's really a behind-the-scenes look with some

553
00:32:41.988 --> 00:32:46.518
interactive displays, and it's always well-attended and well-received by the

554
00:32:46.548 --> 00:32:47.029
residents.

555
00:32:47.748 --> 00:32:52.518
Great. Just to comment, I've had some recent dealings with property management and

556
00:32:52.548 --> 00:32:56.868
with Herschel, who's one of our people on that administrative.

557
00:32:58.188 --> 00:33:02.118
They have a huge task, and they really are doing an outstanding job there.

558
00:33:02.238 --> 00:33:03.288
Very, very responsive.

559
00:33:04.608 --> 00:33:09.018
I got a call from a resident that had a problem on his property, and probably less

560
00:33:09.048 --> 00:33:12.919
than 24 hours, somebody was out there to meet with me and meet with the resident,

561
00:33:12.978 --> 00:33:17.628
and it is being resolved. So if you have a situation

562
00:33:18.258 --> 00:33:22.488
and you need help from property management, please let your supervisors know.

563
00:33:22.518 --> 00:33:26.358
We're more than happy to intervene on your behalf and get property management

564
00:33:26.448 --> 00:33:30.318
actively involved. And I would like to thank property management and their people

565
00:33:30.468 --> 00:33:32.493
for the outstanding job they do here in the villages.

566
00:33:32.868 --> 00:33:37.098
It is a massive undertaking when you consider the size, and we're still growing,

567
00:33:37.158 --> 00:33:41.389
folks. It used to be a joke that someday we may become a suburb of Disney World.

568
00:33:42.108 --> 00:33:44.358
I would not be surprised if that happened in the future.

569
00:33:44.808 --> 00:33:46.578
We just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

570
00:33:47.628 --> 00:33:48.978
And the work gets harder and harder.

571
00:33:49.248 --> 00:33:49.488
So

572
00:33:51.047 --> 00:33:52.038
moving on from there.

573
00:33:54.169 --> 00:33:56.027
Always exciting. District council report.

574
00:33:56.297 --> 00:34:00.603
Just one report, a reminder that your next opportunity for training in ethics and

575
00:34:00.649 --> 00:34:03.723
public records is scheduled for August 27 at 9:00 a.m.

576
00:34:04.428 --> 00:34:07.654
That will be at the Everglades Rec Center, and if you need your hours, you can sign

577
00:34:07.669 --> 00:34:12.138
up for the clerk's office. If you can't make that one, we have one on October 29 at

578
00:34:12.258 --> 00:34:13.998
2:00 p.m., and that will be at the district office.

579
00:34:14.808 --> 00:34:16.878
They're also available online, too.

580
00:34:17.208 --> 00:34:20.268
There are a number of resources available online as well.

581
00:34:20.328 --> 00:34:21.378
Yeah. Okay.

582
00:34:21.498 --> 00:34:24.723
Mark, what was that last one in August at the district office?

583
00:34:25.458 --> 00:34:28.638
October 29 at 2:00 p.m. at the district office.

584
00:34:30.319 --> 00:34:34.008
2:00 p.m. Okay. That's it.

585
00:34:34.608 --> 00:34:35.118
Yes, sir.

586
00:34:35.688 --> 00:34:37.158
Okay. Audience comments.

587
00:34:38.508 --> 00:34:41.569
I see we have somebody new in the audience. That's exciting.

588
00:34:41.658 --> 00:34:44.478
We don't get many people coming to our district meetings, believe me.

589
00:34:44.508 --> 00:34:46.608
If we get more than three, we're very excited.

590
00:34:47.779 --> 00:34:50.553
Yet they call and want to know why we're not doing this or why we're not doing

591
00:34:50.553 --> 00:34:55.608
that. I recently put a little thing in the paper, I know Matt ran it, saying that

592
00:34:55.848 --> 00:34:59.388
if you're really that concerned about what we do and how we do it, come to a

593
00:34:59.449 --> 00:34:59.838
meeting.

594
00:35:01.218 --> 00:35:03.108
We're your representatives. You elected us.

595
00:35:03.588 --> 00:35:05.478
The actions we take affect you directly.

596
00:35:06.078 --> 00:35:08.718
And yet, if we get two or three, that's a lot.

597
00:35:09.318 --> 00:35:12.199
So again, I encourage people to attend these meetings.

598
00:35:12.828 --> 00:35:15.858
Speak your piece if you have concerns. This is where you want to state them.

599
00:35:16.308 --> 00:35:19.638
And it's good to have somebody new. May I ask your name?

600
00:35:20.298 --> 00:35:24.693
My name's Mark Ryan. I'm on Oakview. I live up in Parkview. I have a property.

601
00:35:24.693 --> 00:35:25.068
Wonderful.

602
00:35:25.188 --> 00:35:25.578
Okay.

603
00:35:25.848 --> 00:35:29.718
Nice to have you here, Mark. Hope we see you again. Okay.

604
00:35:30.708 --> 00:35:33.828
Any other audience comments? Anything at all?

605
00:35:34.728 --> 00:35:36.318
Again, thank you to Ken for being here.

606
00:35:36.348 --> 00:35:39.798
He's our representative architectural review. Brilliant guy.

607
00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:42.468
Not only an architect, an attorney, and on and on and on.

608
00:35:42.558 --> 00:35:46.218
His resume is pretty impressive. And you have done an outstanding job.

609
00:35:46.428 --> 00:35:47.058
Thank you, Ken.

610
00:35:49.518 --> 00:35:54.348
Okay, supervisors' comments. Mr. Felici, how about you start down there?

611
00:35:54.513 --> 00:35:54.678
None.

612
00:35:55.218 --> 00:35:56.238
None. Mr. Knoll?

613
00:35:56.538 --> 00:35:57.498
Yeah, I have a couple.

614
00:35:57.558 --> 00:35:58.008
All right.

615
00:35:59.268 --> 00:35:59.838
Go for it.

616
00:35:59.988 --> 00:36:00.918
First, there was a recent

617
00:36:03.048 --> 00:36:08.449
public hearing, I think, in another district about a property that they found a

618
00:36:08.508 --> 00:36:13.548
violation on that property, and the property owner was at the hearing and said that

619
00:36:14.449 --> 00:36:19.593
they bought the house, and those conditions existed when they bought the house.

620
00:36:19.668 --> 00:36:20.658
Yeah, we get a lot of that.

621
00:36:20.779 --> 00:36:23.507
I guess I have two questions in regards to that.

622
00:36:23.628 --> 00:36:25.863
Number one is, is that

623
00:36:28.002 --> 00:36:33.132
I guess how often does that happen where there's a home purchase that's already in

624
00:36:33.192 --> 00:36:38.352
violation, the new owner doesn't know it, they have no way of knowing it yet, I

625
00:36:38.442 --> 00:36:38.742
guess.

626
00:36:40.062 --> 00:36:41.742
And

627
00:36:43.002 --> 00:36:47.982
my second question is, is it possible to find a way to convey that information?

628
00:36:49.393 --> 00:36:52.212
Whether it be through the realtor or-

629
00:36:52.842 --> 00:36:52.992
Yeah

630
00:36:53.007 --> 00:36:58.242
... one of the steps in buying a home and closing is you got to show up at

631
00:36:58.512 --> 00:37:01.482
Community Standards and say, "Here's the home.

632
00:37:02.412 --> 00:37:07.992
Is there anything I need to be concerned about?" It seems people are buying into a

633
00:37:08.052 --> 00:37:08.832
situation-

634
00:37:09.672 --> 00:37:09.912
Yeah

635
00:37:09.942 --> 00:37:12.522
... that they're in a bit of a jackpot, they don't even know it.

636
00:37:12.972 --> 00:37:18.612
Yeah. So that comes up a lot and ultimately it's an issue

637
00:37:18.643 --> 00:37:21.777
between the private property owners, the purchaser, and the seller.

638
00:37:22.002 --> 00:37:25.932
When you sell a property, you're required to disclose certain things.

639
00:37:25.962 --> 00:37:26.681
The buyer beware.

640
00:37:26.952 --> 00:37:32.157
Correct. And if the seller didn't disclose any potential issues with that property,

641
00:37:32.982 --> 00:37:37.212
then again, that's an issue between the buyer and the seller, potential lawsuit,

642
00:37:37.257 --> 00:37:40.722
things like that. CDD doesn't get involved with that.

643
00:37:40.873 --> 00:37:41.592
Uh-huh.

644
00:37:41.623 --> 00:37:46.332
Our job, really, under the statute, under Chapter 190, is to simply enforce the

645
00:37:46.362 --> 00:37:50.862
deed restrictions as it relates to external appearances. That's what we do.

646
00:37:50.893 --> 00:37:55.812
We don't sell property. We don't own that kind of property, residential properties.

647
00:37:55.873 --> 00:38:00.492
We don't get involved with that. I'm sure there's a process a private company could

648
00:38:00.522 --> 00:38:01.032
create

649
00:38:02.352 --> 00:38:06.822
to handle that sort of situation, but not anything that the CDD can do.

650
00:38:07.362 --> 00:38:13.212
Because it's one thing if you buy a property and then, a couple of months

651
00:38:13.242 --> 00:38:14.832
after you've bought it, somebody

652
00:38:16.242 --> 00:38:19.272
makes a phone call and says, "That property's got a violation.

653
00:38:19.332 --> 00:38:24.402
Here it is." And Community Standards shows up and says, "Yes, and you've got to fix

654
00:38:24.492 --> 00:38:29.893
this." They can go after the owner for not disclosing that, but 10, 15 years down

655
00:38:29.922 --> 00:38:30.177
the road-

656
00:38:30.177 --> 00:38:31.002
They already own it, though

657
00:38:31.092 --> 00:38:31.977
... yeah, who knows?

658
00:38:32.637 --> 00:38:32.637
Yeah.

659
00:38:32.682 --> 00:38:34.062
So, it's a

660
00:38:35.832 --> 00:38:36.312
oh well.

661
00:38:36.822 --> 00:38:40.812
If I might, it's a catch 22. I understand what you're saying.

662
00:38:40.873 --> 00:38:46.662
I know the legalities of it, but there's also the integrity and the, I guess

663
00:38:46.692 --> 00:38:50.292
for lack of a better term, the moral standards on this when you're selling a house.

664
00:38:51.012 --> 00:38:55.873
I think one of the things that really irritates me is when I see a house sold and I

665
00:38:55.902 --> 00:39:00.252
know who sells it, and it's being sold by Villages Properties.

666
00:39:00.312 --> 00:39:03.762
And yet they sell the house and the person moves in, and then they get hit with all

667
00:39:03.792 --> 00:39:05.623
these violations and it just floors them.

668
00:39:05.652 --> 00:39:09.762
They've got to spend $5,000 to $10,000 to fix the place up to meet it.

669
00:39:10.662 --> 00:39:15.162
I would think, at least with our own people here in The Villages, we should have

670
00:39:15.252 --> 00:39:19.902
some type of ruling or some type of procedure where if you're going to sell a house

671
00:39:20.232 --> 00:39:23.623
to someone in The Villages and they're going to become our neighbors, have the

672
00:39:23.682 --> 00:39:28.602
decency to at least have the house checked first and require that an inspection be

673
00:39:28.707 --> 00:39:32.742
done to make sure it is in compliance before you end up walking into closing and

674
00:39:32.772 --> 00:39:35.682
then you own it. Because once you own it, that's it.

675
00:39:35.982 --> 00:39:39.102
Doesn't matter what happened before or what the previous owner did.

676
00:39:39.162 --> 00:39:43.572
And I've seen situations, and I know some of us here have too, Jerry included,

677
00:39:43.602 --> 00:39:47.246
where somebody buys a house and within a week they get hit with a complaint and

678
00:39:47.262 --> 00:39:51.702
they're just devastated. We have situations here like, "The neighbor was there

679
00:39:51.732 --> 00:39:57.612
before, but now they're gone. So I think I'll file on you." Not a good situation.

680
00:39:57.643 --> 00:40:02.592
There has got to be an answer to this. And I think Council kind of alluded to it.

681
00:40:02.682 --> 00:40:06.192
Somebody wants to start a business down here, and if you want to do inspections

682
00:40:06.222 --> 00:40:09.822
prior to buying homes in The Villages and that's your company and you can deal

683
00:40:09.882 --> 00:40:11.022
directly with our people,

684
00:40:12.582 --> 00:40:16.152
that would be quite a thing to do. So that's something to think about.

685
00:40:16.422 --> 00:40:19.752
But I really think the responsibility, even though it legally is not the

686
00:40:19.782 --> 00:40:24.701
district's, is to push as hard as we can to get people to do these compliance

687
00:40:24.762 --> 00:40:28.902
inspections, that's what I call them, the compliance inspections, prior to people

688
00:40:29.022 --> 00:40:32.442
buying a house down here and going to closing. That should be a requirement.

689
00:40:32.906 --> 00:40:36.582
And whether it's legally required under the statute

690
00:40:37.873 --> 00:40:42.147
that we operate under as special districts or whether it isn't, I think it's just

691
00:40:42.492 --> 00:40:47.652
the right thing to do. We keep running into this constantly and it really is

692
00:40:47.712 --> 00:40:52.362
becoming an irritant. So I would like to think the developer, the districts,

693
00:40:53.412 --> 00:40:58.272
Villages sales, maybe other realtors, could sit down and reach some type of mutual

694
00:40:58.332 --> 00:41:02.592
agreement to make sure this is done prior to selling a property.

695
00:41:02.952 --> 00:41:07.092
It's not a lot to ask. And if you wanted to charge for it at closing to have that

696
00:41:07.123 --> 00:41:10.572
done, just like buying insurance, wonderful. Go ahead and do it.

697
00:41:11.292 --> 00:41:15.012
At least then you've got some security to know you're not going to get hit three or

698
00:41:15.102 --> 00:41:18.462
four months from now because somebody complains about your bushes or your weeds or

699
00:41:18.972 --> 00:41:22.211
the patio you put on the back, which now you might have to tear down, that kind of

700
00:41:22.242 --> 00:41:27.192
thing. It's just not fair to the residents. So some action has to be taken on this.

701
00:41:27.672 --> 00:41:33.373
I think we fixed at least a portion of it by the lien process because before people

702
00:41:33.402 --> 00:41:36.326
would be out of compliance, they'd have orders of enforcement entered against them.

703
00:41:36.342 --> 00:41:39.657
They'd have money that was due. Someone would come and buy the property, they

704
00:41:39.672 --> 00:41:44.412
didn't know because there was nothing recorded to let them know there's issues with

705
00:41:44.442 --> 00:41:45.252
the property.

706
00:41:45.342 --> 00:41:46.632
That's definitely good stuff.

707
00:41:46.737 --> 00:41:52.422
So we've fixed that part. We just can't fix the part where there are properties

708
00:41:52.437 --> 00:41:56.666
that are potentially in violation and haven't been reported because we are

709
00:41:56.742 --> 00:42:00.402
obviously a district where you have to call it in to get the process started.

710
00:42:01.152 --> 00:42:06.222
Would it be possible for the developer to put down some type of rule that before

711
00:42:06.252 --> 00:42:11.922
you go to a closing on a property that is owned by The Villages, that it's required

712
00:42:11.982 --> 00:42:13.527
to have that done prior to closing?

713
00:42:13.752 --> 00:42:14.352
So-

714
00:42:14.472 --> 00:42:15.162
How hard would that be?

715
00:42:15.522 --> 00:42:19.662
The developer, from what I understand, sells new construction.

716
00:42:19.692 --> 00:42:19.826
Right.

717
00:42:20.502 --> 00:42:24.432
Then there's the private companies that sell the resales.

718
00:42:24.672 --> 00:42:24.746
Yep.

719
00:42:25.812 --> 00:42:31.332
To me, it would seem the resale company would be the one to have some sort of

720
00:42:32.623 --> 00:42:34.018
process if it was going to be one.

721
00:42:34.076 --> 00:42:37.541
A requirement for the resale of properties in The Villages.

722
00:42:37.662 --> 00:42:37.977
I mean, I-

723
00:42:38.143 --> 00:42:39.477
They have authority, I know.

724
00:42:40.152 --> 00:42:42.732
Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know the answer to that.

725
00:42:42.822 --> 00:42:44.832
Yeah. This is something we're running into a lot here.

726
00:42:44.877 --> 00:42:50.322
In those properties where a mortgage is involved, some people pay cash, I

727
00:42:50.382 --> 00:42:51.012
understand that.

728
00:42:51.086 --> 00:42:51.086
Yeah.

729
00:42:51.102 --> 00:42:56.682
But many people go to a bank and say, "I need a mortgage.

730
00:42:56.771 --> 00:43:01.422
I'm buying a house." The bank requires an inspection of the property, I believe.

731
00:43:01.782 --> 00:43:02.532
Yep, they do.

732
00:43:03.373 --> 00:43:07.707
To make sure that the roof and whatever-

733
00:43:08.052 --> 00:43:09.237
There's no liens against it

734
00:43:09.252 --> 00:43:11.907
... the water heater, the whole thing is working.

735
00:43:12.626 --> 00:43:18.162
As part of that inspection, can it be required that the inspector then checks on

736
00:43:18.222 --> 00:43:19.123
the violations?

737
00:43:19.393 --> 00:43:21.373
Or could it be part of title transfer?

738
00:43:21.432 --> 00:43:24.432
I think banks only require appraisals.

739
00:43:24.762 --> 00:43:27.552
I don't think they require that people purchase inspections.

740
00:43:27.582 --> 00:43:29.772
People decide to buy them anyways before.

741
00:43:30.672 --> 00:43:30.732
Yep.

742
00:43:30.792 --> 00:43:31.062
Yeah.

743
00:43:31.182 --> 00:43:33.042
But it's the same way. They don't require it.

744
00:43:33.282 --> 00:43:36.462
It's an interesting issue though because you would think a mortgage company or a

745
00:43:36.612 --> 00:43:40.932
bank would want to know whether there's issues, not necessarily with the roof, as

746
00:43:40.992 --> 00:43:43.812
long as it appraises for them, that's what they care about.

747
00:43:44.577 --> 00:43:44.577
Yeah.

748
00:43:44.592 --> 00:43:45.912
But other potential issues.

749
00:43:46.572 --> 00:43:48.972
I would think it also could fall under clear title, couldn't it?

750
00:43:49.572 --> 00:43:51.822
I mean, you have to have a title check before you buy a property.

751
00:43:51.882 --> 00:43:52.572
Everybody gets that.

752
00:43:52.632 --> 00:43:56.607
Well, and again, the only thing the title looks at is recorded documents, which is

753
00:43:56.682 --> 00:43:57.147
our liens.

754
00:43:57.147 --> 00:43:57.643
Which our liens are.

755
00:43:57.732 --> 00:44:00.672
Right. So if there's nothing that's been recorded, it comes up clean.

756
00:44:01.182 --> 00:44:04.152
Yeah. Well, there's an answer out there and I think we have an obligation to our

757
00:44:04.212 --> 00:44:05.742
residents to figure out what it is.

758
00:44:06.222 --> 00:44:09.643
Yeah, I think the answer is, like we said, a private company to go out there and do

759
00:44:09.702 --> 00:44:09.882
that.

760
00:44:10.152 --> 00:44:14.682
There you go, folks. Anybody want to start a business? A lot of money to be made.

761
00:44:15.162 --> 00:44:15.942
Okay.

762
00:44:16.032 --> 00:44:16.212
Okay.

763
00:44:16.272 --> 00:44:17.442
In fact, that was item one.

764
00:44:17.727 --> 00:44:19.647
Thank you. Go ahead, Jerry. You got some good stuff there.

765
00:44:19.662 --> 00:44:20.232
Number two.

766
00:44:20.292 --> 00:44:20.592
Get it.

767
00:44:23.682 --> 00:44:27.957
This is a point of information in that we all know that there's

768
00:44:28.062 --> 00:44:34.002
an upcoming election and one of the things that's going to be on

769
00:44:34.032 --> 00:44:39.762
that ballot is an increase in the exemption for

770
00:44:39.792 --> 00:44:40.332
property.

771
00:44:40.512 --> 00:44:40.782
Yes.

772
00:44:41.502 --> 00:44:46.572
And it's going to go from, they're proposing 50,000, it's currently 50,000, it

773
00:44:46.602 --> 00:44:47.382
would go to $150,000.

774
00:44:47.442 --> 00:44:48.717
That's the homestead, right, Jerry?

775
00:44:48.717 --> 00:44:52.812
And then the homesteading and then the following year it would go to 250,000.

776
00:44:53.712 --> 00:44:54.702
Uh-huh.

777
00:44:55.602 --> 00:44:57.042
It has the potential

778
00:44:58.782 --> 00:45:03.507
to not directly impact on us, but maybe indirectly because-

779
00:45:04.347 --> 00:45:05.382
Affects the county

780
00:45:05.472 --> 00:45:09.252
... we're not involved in collecting taxes.

781
00:45:09.492 --> 00:45:09.792
Right.

782
00:45:10.062 --> 00:45:14.562
But the county is, and I know the county's already submitted two budgets

783
00:45:16.452 --> 00:45:22.002
to their county commissioners, one with and one without, depending on whether this

784
00:45:22.032 --> 00:45:23.112
gets approved or not.

785
00:45:23.202 --> 00:45:23.277
Mm-hmm.

786
00:45:23.472 --> 00:45:27.852
And I guess I just want to say publicly that there's a concern.

787
00:45:27.912 --> 00:45:32.682
If it gets approved, one of the things they're talking about is closing the 466

788
00:45:32.802 --> 00:45:33.162
Annex.

789
00:45:33.582 --> 00:45:33.912
Yep.

790
00:45:33.942 --> 00:45:36.222
Closing the library on Power Drive

791
00:45:37.944 --> 00:45:41.724
The things that have not been talked about are potential impact on road

792
00:45:41.814 --> 00:45:42.264
maintenance-

793
00:45:43.584 --> 00:45:44.664
That's huge

794
00:45:45.025 --> 00:45:47.814
... the county will lose revenue. There's no doubt.

795
00:45:48.084 --> 00:45:51.384
And they say in year two it'll be really impactful.

796
00:45:51.594 --> 00:45:52.074
Yeah.

797
00:45:54.355 --> 00:45:59.964
And I will give you two roads that are coming up that are in the

798
00:46:00.025 --> 00:46:02.424
villages that the county has to maintain.

799
00:46:02.634 --> 00:46:07.344
The only roads in the villages that we're responsible for are the villa roads.

800
00:46:07.509 --> 00:46:07.509
Okay.

801
00:46:07.704 --> 00:46:09.204
The rest belong to the county.

802
00:46:10.704 --> 00:46:12.984
Belvedere Drive and Churchill.

803
00:46:14.334 --> 00:46:18.234
Belvedere, specifically at the entrance through the gate-

804
00:46:18.384 --> 00:46:18.699
Mm-hmm

805
00:46:18.744 --> 00:46:20.934
... at the high school or the old high school.

806
00:46:21.084 --> 00:46:21.204
Right.

807
00:46:21.504 --> 00:46:25.944
It's in poor condition and they keep patching it, but at some point they're going

808
00:46:25.959 --> 00:46:26.244
to say-

809
00:46:26.514 --> 00:46:27.954
Those are the neighborhood streets there

810
00:46:28.044 --> 00:46:28.929
... "You know, patch on patch."

811
00:46:30.534 --> 00:46:31.719
Churchill has an issue

812
00:46:33.054 --> 00:46:36.084
where the Belmont, I think it's the Belmont Golf Course-

813
00:46:36.204 --> 00:46:36.219
Mm-hmm

814
00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:40.779
... crosses Churchill. There's a dip in the road and there's standing water in it,

815
00:46:40.869 --> 00:46:41.904
and it's been there for years.

816
00:46:43.644 --> 00:46:48.504
They can take care of it when they redo the road by taking that dip out.

817
00:46:49.434 --> 00:46:55.164
Right now the only thing that solves that standing water problem is the sun.

818
00:46:55.434 --> 00:46:55.704
Mm-hmm.

819
00:46:57.084 --> 00:47:01.584
So I just share that with everybody that there's a potential out there for some

820
00:47:01.644 --> 00:47:07.614
problems in the future in terms of the county's ability to fund

821
00:47:07.674 --> 00:47:10.224
the things that they've been funding all along.

822
00:47:10.358 --> 00:47:10.358
Yep.

823
00:47:10.374 --> 00:47:13.224
Road maintenance and so forth. Let me share that.

824
00:47:13.584 --> 00:47:17.364
I would agree. It's like the carrot and the stick. It sounds real good.

825
00:47:17.424 --> 00:47:21.789
All of a sudden you could go all the way up to a $200,000 exemption, but nobody's

826
00:47:21.834 --> 00:47:26.169
stopping to take a look at it. That gap that comes in the county budget, somebody's

827
00:47:26.169 --> 00:47:28.584
going to make that up. Who makes it up? The taxpayers.

828
00:47:28.614 --> 00:47:30.414
They're making it up with cuts.

829
00:47:30.534 --> 00:47:34.824
Right. And eventually it's going to get either worse that way or they're going to

830
00:47:34.855 --> 00:47:35.934
have to raise taxes.

831
00:47:36.294 --> 00:47:36.309
Yeah.

832
00:47:36.355 --> 00:47:38.904
So they're going to get you one way or another, get you up front or get you later

833
00:47:38.964 --> 00:47:40.794
on. Yes, sir.

834
00:47:41.154 --> 00:47:41.394
Well,

835
00:47:44.094 --> 00:47:48.789
the reduction is it benefits the homestead folks.

836
00:47:49.374 --> 00:47:49.794
Mm-hmm. Right.

837
00:47:50.724 --> 00:47:56.275
Permanent residents. So it doesn't affect people that

838
00:47:56.364 --> 00:47:58.464
have vacation homes here-

839
00:47:58.734 --> 00:47:58.929
Right

840
00:47:58.929 --> 00:47:59.994
... investment homes here.

841
00:48:00.474 --> 00:48:00.639
Business.

842
00:48:00.684 --> 00:48:03.054
People that don't qualify for homestead.

843
00:48:03.504 --> 00:48:03.730
Mm-hmm.

844
00:48:03.924 --> 00:48:09.444
So the county could raise taxes on the non-homestead properties

845
00:48:09.984 --> 00:48:13.314
in order to fund the things that they need.

846
00:48:13.584 --> 00:48:14.484
Yes.

847
00:48:15.114 --> 00:48:17.634
So it would take care of tourism, people buying here.

848
00:48:17.694 --> 00:48:18.654
Just like you said,

849
00:48:20.334 --> 00:48:21.864
they'll probably have to raise taxes.

850
00:48:22.464 --> 00:48:22.644
Quick.

851
00:48:22.659 --> 00:48:26.424
But they won't be raising taxes on the homestead people, they'll be raising taxes

852
00:48:27.114 --> 00:48:28.344
on the non-homestead-

853
00:48:28.494 --> 00:48:29.304
And the business

854
00:48:29.394 --> 00:48:30.624
... and the commercial properties.

855
00:48:30.714 --> 00:48:33.834
Couldn't that be construed as selective enforcement though, of the tax?

856
00:48:36.414 --> 00:48:36.654
Well-

857
00:48:37.105 --> 00:48:37.374
Very good

858
00:48:37.434 --> 00:48:41.694
... if so, then the whole homestead arrangement could be challenged as well.

859
00:48:42.894 --> 00:48:43.224
Mm-hmm. Could. Okay.

860
00:48:45.174 --> 00:48:46.644
Anyway, good food for thought.

861
00:48:46.914 --> 00:48:48.144
That's all I have.

862
00:48:48.355 --> 00:48:50.843
That's good stuff. Walter, anything?

863
00:48:50.858 --> 00:48:53.364
I have a comment. Rarely do I have a comment.

864
00:48:53.454 --> 00:48:54.924
You got one today?

865
00:48:55.404 --> 00:48:55.719
We already did that.

866
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:55.719
Scored all day.

867
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:01.284
I'm a member of the AIC, the Investment Council, and

868
00:49:01.344 --> 00:49:04.434
something interesting came up at our last meeting.

869
00:49:04.494 --> 00:49:10.194
We were very pleased with the overall returns for the second and third quarter, but

870
00:49:10.404 --> 00:49:15.984
one of my colleagues brought up the impact that AI would have on

871
00:49:16.044 --> 00:49:21.984
long-term investment returns. It perked my ears up even though when I was in

872
00:49:22.044 --> 00:49:28.028
school I got a weak C in economics. But that is something to

873
00:49:28.028 --> 00:49:33.864
be concerned about. I guess eventually it may have a concern, but we shelved it

874
00:49:34.194 --> 00:49:40.134
and we're going to bring it up at a future meeting how AI will impact or what would

875
00:49:40.224 --> 00:49:45.278
have an impact on the overall long-term investment.

876
00:49:45.294 --> 00:49:45.309
Mm-hmm.

877
00:49:45.564 --> 00:49:49.764
But that's something to look at because if it does, then it would affect us, our

878
00:49:49.884 --> 00:49:54.834
investment here for CDD5, which sort of mirrors the AIC,

879
00:49:55.464 --> 00:49:56.454
IAC.

880
00:49:56.514 --> 00:49:56.650
Yep.

881
00:49:56.694 --> 00:49:57.384
And that's all.

882
00:49:57.894 --> 00:49:59.364
Thank you, sir. Mark?

883
00:50:03.864 --> 00:50:06.624
At the September board meeting we will approve the budget.

884
00:50:07.134 --> 00:50:07.464
Yes, sir.

885
00:50:07.884 --> 00:50:11.904
And we've talked before about the fact that over the next

886
00:50:13.464 --> 00:50:15.804
four years we will be depleting the reserve.

887
00:50:16.134 --> 00:50:16.404
Correct.

888
00:50:16.824 --> 00:50:20.394
And in which case we won't have to worry about investment because we won't have any

889
00:50:20.424 --> 00:50:21.324
money to invest.

890
00:50:22.674 --> 00:50:24.444
That's not quite true, but okay.

891
00:50:24.744 --> 00:50:25.884
So,

892
00:50:27.564 --> 00:50:33.204
I've raised this before and last week I had a quick meeting with Brandi

893
00:50:33.355 --> 00:50:36.804
Cook, our budget director, and

894
00:50:38.694 --> 00:50:44.634
I asked her to prepare a report to review with us at our

895
00:50:44.664 --> 00:50:45.474
next board meeting-

896
00:50:45.714 --> 00:50:45.954
Okay

897
00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:50.184
... on how to manage the depletion of our reserve.

898
00:50:50.424 --> 00:50:51.084
Yeah, I've seen that.

899
00:50:51.114 --> 00:50:56.724
And because I want you to anticipate that I'm probably going to talk about

900
00:50:56.784 --> 00:50:58.314
increasing the-

901
00:50:59.634 --> 00:51:01.734
Maintenance fee

902
00:51:02.304 --> 00:51:05.724
... the maintenance fee so that we don't totally deplete that reserve over the next

903
00:51:05.754 --> 00:51:06.429
four or five years.

904
00:51:07.358 --> 00:51:07.358
Okay.

905
00:51:07.374 --> 00:51:07.704
That's all.

906
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.464
CDD6 has already done that because they were-

907
00:51:10.794 --> 00:51:10.809
Yeah

908
00:51:10.809 --> 00:51:15.819
... faced with the possibility of negative investment income by the middle of next

909
00:51:15.819 --> 00:51:15.984
year.

910
00:51:16.074 --> 00:51:16.315
Yep.

911
00:51:16.704 --> 00:51:20.394
Yeah. When I met with Brandi, she said, "Well, I'm going in there thinking I'm

912
00:51:20.454 --> 00:51:24.129
asking for something new." And she says, "Oh, well, I've got this all worked out."

913
00:51:24.174 --> 00:51:26.544
Oh, we've discussed this months ago. Yeah.

914
00:51:26.574 --> 00:51:28.285
I gave you a plan and you're going to get a report, so-

915
00:51:28.344 --> 00:51:28.419
Yeah

916
00:51:28.614 --> 00:51:29.049
... that's great.

917
00:51:29.394 --> 00:51:32.754
Since we can't communicate because of the Sunshine Laws, I think we both had that

918
00:51:32.785 --> 00:51:35.065
discussion. I've had several meetings, too.

919
00:51:35.334 --> 00:51:37.358
And yeah, she does have a plan put together.

920
00:51:38.035 --> 00:51:41.094
Now, we have lived in luxury for about 20 years, folks.

921
00:51:41.214 --> 00:51:45.084
We have never raised our maintenance tax in this District 5.

922
00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:46.704
I think we're probably the only ones that have done that.

923
00:51:47.065 --> 00:51:52.674
In fact, we've lowered it six times by 3%, and I remember one time by 20%, trying

924
00:51:52.704 --> 00:51:54.684
to keep it reasonable for our residents.

925
00:51:55.315 --> 00:51:58.194
Those days now with expenses going up are long gone.

926
00:51:58.584 --> 00:51:58.690
Yeah.

927
00:51:58.794 --> 00:52:03.025
So will there be increases in the maintenance fee? Yes. Will they be huge?

928
00:52:03.143 --> 00:52:06.803
Not necessarily. We can spread it over years and still build up our reserves.

929
00:52:07.344 --> 00:52:09.744
That's what we're taking a look at now.

930
00:52:09.834 --> 00:52:13.704
So sooner or later the honeymoon comes to an end and we're going to have to start

931
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:18.084
raising our fees in small increments to start building up our reserves again.

932
00:52:18.204 --> 00:52:21.384
I've been opposed to that for 20 years.

933
00:52:21.444 --> 00:52:24.565
I have now changed that attitude because I don't want to see us get into a bind,

934
00:52:24.594 --> 00:52:27.144
and I think Mark's pointed that out very clearly.

935
00:52:27.234 --> 00:52:31.179
So that's something to be looking towards in the future and we will have some very

936
00:52:31.254 --> 00:52:35.109
serious discussions on that. And I appreciate the time you've been putting in on

937
00:52:35.155 --> 00:52:39.714
that and working with Brandi. It makes a big difference. So, okay.

938
00:52:40.405 --> 00:52:45.204
No other comments? I think I made most of mine other than we did talk about the

939
00:52:45.234 --> 00:52:49.794
roads and the condition of the roads and so forth, and I keep very careful notes

940
00:52:49.824 --> 00:52:52.134
when I talk to the county or the county representatives.

941
00:52:52.734 --> 00:52:57.535
I believe on four occasions I have approached them and said that in our particular

942
00:52:57.625 --> 00:53:02.125
district, we're 21, almost 22 years old in Lynn Haven and Belvedere in there.

943
00:53:02.184 --> 00:53:04.944
There are literally stones coming out of the road the size of golf balls.

944
00:53:05.754 --> 00:53:09.804
They're not in good condition. And we have pleaded to have those done.

945
00:53:10.044 --> 00:53:13.194
Of course, with the budget changes coming now, it's probably not going to happen

946
00:53:13.224 --> 00:53:18.429
for a long time. But normally what happens is they will send you an email which is

947
00:53:18.924 --> 00:53:24.625
180 pages PDF showing you the procedures on what you have to be required in order

948
00:53:24.684 --> 00:53:28.644
to refinish a road. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.

949
00:53:28.764 --> 00:53:30.864
No one's going to read that 180 pages.

950
00:53:31.315 --> 00:53:33.625
I don't want to know how you go about it, I want it done.

951
00:53:34.464 --> 00:53:38.304
Four times we've gone, four times I've gotten a damn book in an email.

952
00:53:38.724 --> 00:53:43.375
So the bottom line is the county needs to start taking a look at roads and maybe

953
00:53:43.434 --> 00:53:47.604
doing what we're doing. I know our maintenance charges are pretty low and the

954
00:53:47.634 --> 00:53:50.004
county taxes have been fairly reasonable.

955
00:53:50.155 --> 00:53:52.734
When you come from New York, believe me, they are a miracle down here.

956
00:53:53.619 --> 00:53:57.204
But the bottom line is these roads need to be taken care of.

957
00:53:57.354 --> 00:54:00.684
And I know we're doing a lot of building in the south and God bless our residents

958
00:54:00.714 --> 00:54:02.275
down there, they deserve good roads.

959
00:54:02.785 --> 00:54:06.714
But we need our roads replaced up here and that's not happening and there doesn't

960
00:54:06.804 --> 00:54:10.299
seem to be any interest. They talk to us like we have no brains in our head and

961
00:54:10.344 --> 00:54:13.434
just keep pushing us off to the side and saying, "Well, read this book and you'll

962
00:54:13.494 --> 00:54:16.929
understand why we can't." I don't want to know why you can't, I want to know why

963
00:54:16.974 --> 00:54:21.114
you don't. So that's where we stand now with the county.

964
00:54:21.324 --> 00:54:25.344
So when you elect your representatives to the county, think about that.

965
00:54:25.405 --> 00:54:28.794
Make sure you get people in there that show some interest in what you need to have

966
00:54:28.824 --> 00:54:33.744
done. Okay? That's it. I'm done. I'm sure I'm going to get some nasty letters on

967
00:54:33.775 --> 00:54:38.454
that one, but that's okay. Used to it. Any other questions? Anything else?

968
00:54:39.354 --> 00:54:40.884
I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

969
00:54:40.944 --> 00:54:41.994
Motion to adjourn.

970
00:54:42.474 --> 00:54:42.775
Second?

971
00:54:43.074 --> 00:54:43.434
Second.

972
00:54:43.704 --> 00:54:48.114
No vote required. We're out of here. Hasta la vista, baby.

973
00:54:48.714 --> 00:54:49.644
Hasta manana.

974
00:54:49.674 --> 00:54:50.199
Don't try this at home.