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The agenda back at the back.

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Talking into the mic.

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I am talking into the mic now. I'm talking into the mic.

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Okay. Okay.

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I'd like to, um, do a roll call, please.

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To my right. Let's start at the right. Good morning.

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Um, Carrie Duckett, deputy District Manager. Mark

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Brianna is district counsel

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And to his right is Jennifer Farlow, the district clerk.

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Would like me to do that. Yes. Keep going.

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Um, and in the back, um, if you don't mind, staff,

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could you please stand up?

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We have Mr. Bruce Brown,

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who is the assistant district Manager, Matt Armstrong

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with Community Standards.

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Karen Cleary with budget.

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Jennifer Leon Norris Finance and Melissa Shar purchasing.

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And to my left, um, we have

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Ellen Cora.

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Okay. Thank you, judge.

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Let us now stand for a pledge of allegiance to the flag

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and a movement of violence for

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so many things that are going on.

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I Pledge of Allegiance, the of the America.

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from in.

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Thank you.

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I had like to welcome everyone

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that's attending our meeting today.

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We'd like to see this every month,

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but I bet you have an issue and that's why you're here.

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That being said, we, uh,

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encourage audience comments if they are not on the agenda.

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And at this point in time, if, if you would like to come

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to the podium, you need to give your name, your address

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and let us know why you are here.

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Thank you.

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Good morning. Thank you for having this meeting today.

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My name is Bernie O'Donnell.

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I live at, uh, 2040 Palo Alto Avenue, uh,

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where the lake used to be called.

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I just realized a Largo Lego is now called the water basin.

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I'm not sure when that changed.

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And I'm here 'cause I'm concerned about the

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maintenance of this lake.

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I've had some very pleasant conversations

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with district management.

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Mr. Manger, I think that's Mellinger.

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I didn't pronounce his name correctly.

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And I think that, uh, the resolution

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of this problem should be fairly easy with a new contract

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for maintenance for particular, this particular lake

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and other lakes in this property.

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If you want more, I can give you more information.

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If you want to add that later

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or what, I can give you the reason for this.

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Would you like to hear that now? Sure. Okay.

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First of all, I, many, many of us who have had contacts

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with other people in maintenance, uh,

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have received different messages about

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maintenance of this light.

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Uh, from what I understand today, this is from, uh, Mr.

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Mallinger as well. That basically the maintenance

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of the lake is done now strictly

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with chemical processing alone to remove the algae, which is

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above the hydro, which is in Ottoman Lake.

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Um, this has been done for a number of times in the interest

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of removing the algae, which affects

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not only the aesthetic value, the property values,

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the people who live along this lake,

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but also affects potentially I'm concerned

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for the aquatic life as well as the marine life

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with whatever chemicals being used.

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Uh, in the past when Sam was here,

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the things were done a little differently

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and they were done very effectively.

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What happened during that time period was, uh,

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when they had this floating, I, I, uh, alj

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a man in a boat would come by

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and scoop it up with a, with a net,

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and it was done perhaps in one day.

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It seemed like it was a very inexpensive technique.

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The other thing that was done in the past about the hydro

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was carp fish were harvested

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and put into this lake to help the quality

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of the marine life in the lake.

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And the carp also provided the benefit of eating Nigel.

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Uh, the argument that was being given as why it's being done

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that day is some benefit from Florida guidelines.

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Uh, I don't doubt that they exist,

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but they certainly don't, aren't appropriate

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actually getting rid of it right.

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Today, because of the hurricane, it can't see it.

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Um, the only thing different about this lake

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and other lakes, it does have a liner in it.

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Uh, that's a long story. I'll make it very short.

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The liner was put in around 2001

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and, uh, it was done

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because Salt Lake wasn't constructed properly by er, barley,

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which was the engineering construction company at the time,

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took a lot of meetings.

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This board of far superior, I think, to the board in

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and I was dealing with in 1998.

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They, they, they did know how to handle it.

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And fortunately, the villages, the villages themselves,

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came up and said, we'll fix this problem.

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Because the lake was dry three times 98, 2000 period.

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And they realized that the bottom

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of the lake didn't have the appropriate material on it.

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If you look up a government rule for lake

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slash detention ponds, the requirement was given

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by an engineer, an engineer of 10

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to the minus seven centimeters per second,

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which would mean anything to anybody

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because it's a laboratory measurement to translate

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that into physical things, six inches of compacted clay.

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Now we have that in there.

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So we've had copper sulfate against some of the LJ blooms

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that done, the lake has been maintained well in the past.

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People are very happy with it.

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But this past year it's not been hanging around.

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The argument being given, uh, was that the

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chemicals are supposed to get rid of the hydro,

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which is holding up the algae.

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Uh, that that apparently happened.

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And I, I was told by assistant district manager

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that they are going to add to their current contract the

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having, allowing harvesting

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of this material like it was done in the past.

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And hopefully we will inform the board

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of the impact on the next

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maintenance contract for next year.

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'cause I realize there's no money for this year

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in the current maintenance contract.

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Um, so, uh, hope,

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hopefully this problem will be resolved fairly easily.

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I don't think it's a big cost item.

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So the questions that should be asked about this is

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what is the really appropriate way

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to manage this lake in the future?

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Not now. Can't change what's happened in the past.

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And the question comes up, why can't car be added?

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Get rid of the hydrilla

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because they like the hydrilla, they eat it.

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And why can't we have harvesting

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when guy comes out in the lake

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and one day literally gets rid of this stuff?

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And the reason are twofold.

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Uh, aesthetically it affects the, the look

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of the lake looks rock a small lake.

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So it affects that property value.

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Everybody that's along this lake, in this lake,

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I didn't realize it now, called a water basin.

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I'm not sure when that was changed.

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It used to be called El Largo Lego,

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which is a large lake years ago.

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And, um, basically, um, I think that, uh,

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the changes will be brought.

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Pretty simple. Um, what I'm requesting the board to do is

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to look closely at the next contract for maintenance

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to include the harvesting by scooping it out.

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Literally, it took a guy one day.

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It can't be a big cost outta.

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Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. Bernie. Does,

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Is this floating gal?

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No, uh, Bernie that question.

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Is this floating algae? Yeah, he said yes. Okay.

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Yeah, that's, oh, okay.

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I said floating on the record. Well,

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Sure. The

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storm still

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There. Okay.

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I, I need you to say it at the podium. Okay.

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Um, however, I, I would like

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to have a show of hands of the number of people

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that are here that are going to bring up the same issue

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that Bernie brought up.

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Most of you are here for that issue. Okay.

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So, so madam Chair, if you would like,

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Mr. Brown could come up

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and, um, answer some of the questions

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and let the board know what our plans are moving forward.

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And then if the residents still have questions

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or comments, if you'd like to allow them their time

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as well. Yes. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good Morning. Bruce Brown, assistant district manager.

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So district property management's

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obviously well aware of this basin.

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And, uh, the challenges with it.

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The gentleman who spoke is not incorrect.

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Carp would, uh, grass carp would do well in there.

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They do eat hydra,

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and I would recommend that the board consider that

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as an option if you so, which to pursue that, uh,

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we're limited for how much chemical treatment we can

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do by law.

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We can only treat it so often and that has been treated.

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Unfortunately, hydrilla treatment is not a fast process.

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And as part of the process, the hydra breaks down,

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creates algae, and then eventually sinks.

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So it's a slow process that's not pretty to watch.

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And it's not fast.

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Um, not, not the answer that residents want to hear,

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but that's just the reality of it.

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We do not have a contract

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and we do not do mechanical raking.

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But I would recommend, given the, uh, amount

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of issues we have in some of these areas

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with more problematic basis, that might be something

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that the district wishes to con con, you know,

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wishes to pursue.

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Uh, it certainly is possible,

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but it is not, it is, uh, not inexpensive

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to mechanically rake hydrilla out of basins.

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You're talking many, many acres worth. But it is an option.

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Part of the challenge with raking is when you break up

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hydrilla and you don't get it all out, it multiplies

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and it becomes a bigger problem.

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So it's a temporary solution to make it look better,

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but the long run, it still becomes a challenge.

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So the chemical treatments are critical to continue,

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and obviously that's why you have the contract in place

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to perform that service.

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What's the timeframe

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that we should have looked forward to?

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I, you just said it's a slow process. Yes.

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But, but this lake has been like this

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for almost the entire year.

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That's a pretty slow process.

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Yeah. So part of the problem

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that they're facing in this particular basin

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and others throughout the villages, this isn't unique

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to just this one area, is that the, uh,

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it's been a hot summer and there's been a lot of water

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and rain and Hydrilla likes that.

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And it multiplies and grows very quickly.

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So it's, uh, you know, since you're limited for

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how much chemical treatment you can apply,

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you are combating the hydrilla,

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but at the same time, it's growing at a furious rate.

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And it's overtaking the, uh, treatments.

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So really only option at that point is

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to look at mechanical removal.

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When the weather starts cooling, as it just has,

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you'll start to see that cycle reverse itself.

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And the hydrilla will slow down on growth

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and the chemicals will overcome it.

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So you're suggesting that perhaps we should wait and see

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and we might be able to control it with chemicals,

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You'll definitely be able to control it through chemicals

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as the weather cools down.

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This is a cyclical PRI problem.

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So you will see it's pulled back up again in the summer.

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Ideally, um, you know, there are some alternative chemicals

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that the contractor can use

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that are a little more aggressive

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that they probably can use in the spring

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to prevent it from recurring as bad as it has.

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Okay. So do these chemicals affect carp if you wouldn't

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stock the, that pond with carp? No.

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No. They wouldn't affect the carp.

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The carp is an effective option.

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I mean, I, I actually would recommend doing that.

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The grass carp, their number one source of food is hydra.

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Well, what about goldfish?

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We could go down to Walmart and buy the whole supply.

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I'm not familiar with what goldfish eat,

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but I am familiar with what grass carp eat.

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Okay. I, I thought at one point in time we had carp in

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that pond, didn't we?

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Yes, absolutely.

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So they, they were really big,

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but then we had a fish kill

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and that was a very good smelling

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event for most of the neighbors.

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But also, I am curious

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because I've noticed wildlife around

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that lake is almost nil compared to what it used to be.

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So are those chemicals affecting our wildlife?

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No, the chemicals are safe.

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I mean, they're, they're, you know, EPA controlled,

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so you can, you know, they're safe, they're safe to apply.

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Uh, obviously you have certain limits

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that you can apply them, you know, the amount,

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uh, and frequency.

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And that's designed to protect the wildlife, the fish,

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the vegetation, et cetera.

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Well, quite honestly,

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I feel like the neighbors are running out of patients.

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I don't know how to address that for sure.

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But I think we need to maybe be a little bit more aggressive

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and talk as a board about having the, at at least some of

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that hydra pulled out of there because it is so terrible.

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Um, carpet, that's just my opinion.

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I'm sorry for, you can speak up and say what you think, but

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Car cheap, Car cheap.

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That's what you suggest. Huh? That

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Was my next question, Bruce.

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Cost a roughly, I'm sorry, excuse me.

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A estimate of cost for either option?

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Uh, right off the top of my head, I don't,

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we can certainly get that to you very quickly.

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What else? Not that, I mean, we, we've put,

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we've put carp in other basins for these type of issues.

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It, it's not a big expense.

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The mechanical raking is

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expensive 'cause it's labor intensive.

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It's a slow process. There you go.

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I I would try to avoid that if you could.

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So, so car readily available to be able

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to stop that lake with more

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Yes, we have. We can

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get a hold of those fairly easily.

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That's what I would recommend.

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My suggestion would be to, um,

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kind of ask you what the most time

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and cost effective way to deal with this would be.

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I realize it's not gonna happen overnight,

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but regarding the cooling of the weather,

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we have that in our favor.

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The carpet chief, if this were your lake

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privately, what would you do?

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I would put CARF in it. Yeah. And anything else?

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No. I mean, you're already doing the chemical treatments.

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Yeah, those will continue year round.

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Mm-hmm. And maybe go

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to the more aggressive chemical that you mentioned.

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I certainly look at it, it has been used in some areas.

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It's very expensive compared to the other chemical

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that they normally apply,

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which is generally very effective as well.

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But there are, there are alternatives

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that we can certainly look at.

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So madam chair, excuse me.

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Um, if the board, um, so chooses,

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we can certainly move forward with the carp immediately,

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and then at your next board meeting,

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have an overview on the other type of chemical and whether

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or not it would be applicable in your, um,

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this specific pond as well as the cost

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for the mechanical raking, should you choose

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to move in that direction as well.

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Okay. So do I need a motion or a consensus?

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There was a third option too, wasn't it?

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I didn't think that. No,

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So so you do wanna vote?

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Um, so yes, we would need a motion.

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Uh, I just have a question.

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Would there be any, uh, economies of scale if you have

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to do this with other water basins?

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I think that's a great question.

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We'll certainly look at it.

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I think there are opportunities,

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but there's some other basins we can probably look at trying

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to do this and reduce the cost. Get

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A volume discount perhaps.

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But we will do that. And madam chair,

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we do not need a vote.

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The consensus of the board. Okay. I'm in favor of the carp.

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Definitely Go

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For it. We'll make it happen.

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Lots of them. And we'll have this on old business.

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Um, so both for the benefit of the board

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and the residents on their agenda next month,

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this item will be on there.

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Um, notifying you

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that the cart has in fact been put into the pond as well as

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the estimated cost for the mechanical,

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whatever it was called, I'm sorry, harvesting.

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And, um, whether or not we could use the other chemical

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and possibly have economy of scale.

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Okay. Is there anyone else out there that would like

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to address this particular issue?

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Okay. Nope. At the speak into the mic.

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I've been a resident of, uh, name

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and address, sir. Into the

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Microphone. Yep. Speak into the mic.

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There you

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Go. Okay. Don't use

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it. Yes, use it. Oh, okay.

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Well, um, I've been a resident, uh, on

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Name and address.

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You still have to say your name, name

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And address. Okay.

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William Temel, T-H-U-E-M-M-E-L

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2 0 7 6 Palo Alto Avenue.

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Been here since oh one.

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We bought that lot because we love the wildlife.

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Uh, and, and it's, it's been really a pleasure

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to live along there.

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And we spent a lot of time on our lanai,

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uh, watching the activity.

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Uh, just as perhaps a quick aside,

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we got a big thrill the first year we were there when a

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Florida panther came by to get a duck for supper about dawn,

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uh, about dusk.

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And I, I couldn't believe it.

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And then we also had a whooping crane come by a year after.

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And then we got all these other, uh, birds

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and so on in there waterfall.

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And, uh, it is just been wonderful.

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And we watched the management of the lake.

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Uh, we've seen airboats out there breaking up a, a little,

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uh, scum on the edge at, uh, uh, algae.

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And, uh, we also, uh, saw a thing come by behind a, uh,

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uh, actually an airboat.

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And they were, uh, dragging that to break, break it up to

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with, uh, well,

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and the, the, um,

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hydrilla is, uh, of course on the bottom.

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And those grasse carp were entertaining to watch, as well

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as to eat all those goodies down there on the bottom.

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They'd come by and you'd see on the edge there a little

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flicker and you see the dorsal fin up there.

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And they got to be pretty good size. Last year.

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That was July, late July, uh, there was a Thursday,

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and, uh, someone, uh, decided to, uh,

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kill the grass along the edge of the lake.

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'cause it, I guess looked like weeds,

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which didn't bother us.

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But, uh, they came by with the big booms out spraying there.

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This was on Thursday.

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Well, we were going to church on Sunday.

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I looked out and I told my wife, gee,

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it looks like a whole bunch of white bags are out there

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that got, maybe the wind drove all the way around the lake,

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two or three dozen of them.

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Then we realized these were dead carp.

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And, uh, on Monday there was a little, uh, truck

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and trailer out there, and they're picking up these carf

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and they were so large that they put one

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to a bag in strain to put it on there.

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So they get pretty big

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and they can consume a lot of hydrilla.

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Uh, so can, uh, large mouth bass.

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And, uh, well, okay, then you have the waterfalls.

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We haven't seen any waterfall out there for some time.

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We used to have ducks of all kinds around.

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Those ducks would, uh, come in there, uh,

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by the hundreds bill and, and, and,

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and then we'd be out there

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and at night when they'd take off,

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those whistlers would take off

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and the air would just bill sing

446
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With it. I'm gonna,

447
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I interrupt you

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because we do have a three minute time.

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Speaker, speaker. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear about that.

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I let, I let Bernie ramble on.

451
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Yeah, well I, but I'm gonna try and reign you in a little.

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Okay. Well, it's been a, um,

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I think it is been a disaster

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Technologically here.

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My name's John West 2036 Palo Alto Avenue.

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Um, I've been here 21 years

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and I've, uh, seen the lake, um,

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be really nice at times.

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And other times I've seen it not quite as bad as it is now.

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Uh, behind my house kinda looks like a swamp.

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Um, The carp can take care of the hydra,

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but you're gonna have to scoop this stuff off the top.

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You're gonna have to cut it and get it out of the lake

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because they're not going to eat that dead weeds.

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That's the only thing I gotta say.

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And I know you're gonna she that for a month or two

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or three or whatever it is.

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Um, a couple of months ago, I had a guy come out

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to the house from the district

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and he and I talked about that.

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And they're keep using, they keep using the chemicals.

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Well, the chemicals ain't working.

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Now they can say that, uh, whatever they want to say,

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they can kill 'em, but it is not getting rid of the swamp.

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Look, that's all I gotta say.

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Anyone else have something to say?

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Please come forward, sir.

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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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My name is Peter Wolfinger.

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I live at 2032 Palo Alto Avenue.

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I'm a resident for 10 years.

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I have watched the pond decline.

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I feel we should start working with nature.

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One of the best things that I have read upon

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is fresh water mussels.

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Now these fresh water mussels were able

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to clean up the Michigan Lake,

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and they are mussels out there that they are buying

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and putting in ponds.

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These mussel will eat the allergist.

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Now the other thing is, as I sit out in my line,

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we get a odor.

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The odor is because the water is not moving,

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even though we put the air radiance underneath

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on a calm day,

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you will just see maybe a four foot circle

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when the air raid is working

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and the rest of the lake looks like a mirror.

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Now I have brought up water pound,

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and of course I was s knocked down because of the expense.

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We don't want a lot of money spent. So I looked into it.

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And guess what? They got?

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Solar water panels, a water fountain.

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And that's what other communities are putting in.

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Now, if you put one water fountain on each end of the lake

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and one in the middle, it will constantly move the water

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where these aerators are not, it's only doing a little area

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and that's what's causing the smell

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because the less the lake is standing still

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unless we get a wind.

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So my suggestion is,

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and a solar water fountain

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is $3,000.

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The freshwater mussels are $19 a pound.

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Now you have to buy a lot of mussel so they can get it from,

516
00:25:26.795 --> 00:25:28.165
usually the allergy

517
00:25:28.785 --> 00:25:31.925
and the fountains will constantly move the water

518
00:25:32.075 --> 00:25:33.205
from one end to the other.

519
00:25:33.465 --> 00:25:35.405
But these air raiders are very limited

520
00:25:35.985 --> 00:25:37.525
the amount of water to more.

521
00:25:39.675 --> 00:25:41.965
Well, that's an interesting concept. Thank you.

522
00:25:42.125 --> 00:25:44.845
I I, uh, I suspect

523
00:25:44.875 --> 00:25:47.845
that the mussels might not work only

524
00:25:47.845 --> 00:25:51.365
because that water is moved from pond to pond and

525
00:25:51.365 --> 00:25:55.405
therefore you might end up moving the mussel from pond upon.

526
00:25:55.405 --> 00:25:56.965
And that might not be a good idea.

527
00:25:57.035 --> 00:25:59.365
Well, I, I'm just guessing that I don't know that.

528
00:25:59.475 --> 00:26:01.645
Well, they, they anchor, you've gotta pull 'em off.

529
00:26:01.705 --> 00:26:04.845
That's number one. Number two is I don't think we should be

530
00:26:04.845 --> 00:26:06.885
moving water to water in our lake,

531
00:26:07.675 --> 00:26:10.605
because right now we had the worst storm in history.

532
00:26:10.785 --> 00:26:14.165
The lake in overflow, actually, like we clear

533
00:26:14.585 --> 00:26:17.205
and we're thick and more full than anything else.

534
00:26:17.875 --> 00:26:21.845
When we move water to water, we are moving

535
00:26:22.425 --> 00:26:23.725
poison to poison.

536
00:26:25.105 --> 00:26:28.485
But we let in whatever the other lakes have, we get

537
00:26:28.675 --> 00:26:31.005
what we move out, we get.

538
00:26:31.225 --> 00:26:35.085
But if we leave the lake to go to natural habitat, which use

539
00:26:35.755 --> 00:26:39.165
like car mussels, water s

540
00:26:39.305 --> 00:26:41.925
and let it do what it has, what nature intended,

541
00:26:42.385 --> 00:26:43.805
it will be a beautiful lake.

542
00:26:43.805 --> 00:26:47.485
Again. Now I don't have no worry about the lake overflowing.

543
00:26:48.165 --> 00:26:49.765
I don't think anybody here had a problem

544
00:26:49.875 --> 00:26:51.205
with the lake overflowing.

545
00:26:51.425 --> 00:26:55.285
And we had the worst, the worst storm in history.

546
00:26:56.025 --> 00:26:58.005
If anything, it helped clean the lake.

547
00:26:58.745 --> 00:27:02.805
If we go forward and get the muscles and the cough

548
00:27:02.985 --> 00:27:05.005
and the fountains and keep everything moving,

549
00:27:05.565 --> 00:27:10.085
I personally believe that it will wholly improve the lake.

550
00:27:10.145 --> 00:27:12.605
And let's go back to what it was intended for.

551
00:27:13.105 --> 00:27:14.565
Be beautiful and nature.

552
00:27:15.015 --> 00:27:16.525
Thank you. Okay, thank you very much.

553
00:27:17.085 --> 00:27:19.645
I can tell you've put a lot of time researching that.

554
00:27:19.815 --> 00:27:23.535
Thank you. Does anyone else have a different

555
00:27:24.125 --> 00:27:25.295
come forward place, sir?

556
00:27:28.195 --> 00:27:31.815
Yes. Good morning. My name's Joe Noack, 2118 Osa.

557
00:27:32.695 --> 00:27:34.055
Actually I'm in district uh, two.

558
00:27:35.395 --> 00:27:38.335
So we are on the north side of the lake

559
00:27:39.035 --> 00:27:41.615
rather than district one being on the south side.

560
00:27:41.615 --> 00:27:44.175
But we shared the same Largo Largo

561
00:27:44.755 --> 00:27:48.215
and uh, we built our house in 2000, it's 24 years ago.

562
00:27:48.955 --> 00:27:51.095
And we watched them drain that lake

563
00:27:52.155 --> 00:27:55.455
and bring in tons of clay, stamp it

564
00:27:56.575 --> 00:28:00.275
and put a eight inch liner stitched together in that lake.

565
00:28:01.175 --> 00:28:02.675
And it took them about six months.

566
00:28:02.675 --> 00:28:04.475
And I don't know how much money in the villages.

567
00:28:05.495 --> 00:28:07.555
And the reason they did that is

568
00:28:07.715 --> 00:28:10.835
'cause they made a commitment to maintain that, uh, lake.

569
00:28:11.375 --> 00:28:13.235
So I'm hoping that commitment hasn't changed.

570
00:28:14.105 --> 00:28:15.555
I've been here 24 years

571
00:28:16.615 --> 00:28:18.235
and for the first time I'm embarrassed

572
00:28:18.235 --> 00:28:19.475
to have people over my house.

573
00:28:20.095 --> 00:28:22.515
And this is the worst it's ever been.

574
00:28:22.735 --> 00:28:25.075
I'd like to know what has changed in the management.

575
00:28:25.415 --> 00:28:28.155
Did we hire someone new? Did we get the people for this?

576
00:28:28.795 --> 00:28:30.875
I mean, the people there were maintaining the pond.

577
00:28:31.265 --> 00:28:33.355
They've been grass carpet in there for years.

578
00:28:34.385 --> 00:28:37.475
They, the level of the lake, I disagree

579
00:28:37.475 --> 00:28:40.595
with the former gentleman circulating the water is the best

580
00:28:40.595 --> 00:28:43.595
thing that seemed to work over the last four or five years.

581
00:28:44.055 --> 00:28:46.835
And they put in five or six different areas in that lake.

582
00:28:47.455 --> 00:28:48.715
Two just circulate.

583
00:28:49.375 --> 00:28:51.995
So something has changed in the method style.

584
00:28:52.425 --> 00:28:55.155
Something's changed in the way they treated the chemicals

585
00:28:55.615 --> 00:28:58.435
and you probably got somebody new for less money.

586
00:28:58.615 --> 00:29:00.315
And I guess maybe you get what you paid for.

587
00:29:00.895 --> 00:29:05.715
But I would like to know, do you still have a commitment

588
00:29:05.715 --> 00:29:06.835
to maintain that pot?

589
00:29:07.415 --> 00:29:09.635
That's the main thing. And if you do, I'm okay with that.

590
00:29:09.845 --> 00:29:11.035
We'll try stuff again

591
00:29:11.035 --> 00:29:12.915
and put grass carpet in there and do the thing.

592
00:29:13.335 --> 00:29:14.715
If you don't, that's a different issue.

593
00:29:14.715 --> 00:29:16.435
And I'd like to know your stance on that

594
00:29:16.625 --> 00:29:21.315
because there needs to be some other, uh, way,

595
00:29:21.935 --> 00:29:25.355
uh, if you're not agreeing that there's a problem.

596
00:29:26.585 --> 00:29:27.725
So that's my question to you.

597
00:29:28.025 --> 00:29:29.485
I'm hoping that you agree there's a problem

598
00:29:30.105 --> 00:29:31.245
and that you're gonna do something.

599
00:29:33.105 --> 00:29:34.365
I'm not sure of that commitment.

600
00:29:34.365 --> 00:29:36.365
Carrie, do you, which earthway does it go

601
00:29:36.955 --> 00:29:41.525
that it's our cd D one commitment to maintain that lake?

602
00:29:42.315 --> 00:29:43.605
That that's that's correct.

603
00:29:43.705 --> 00:29:45.845
And I mean, I think the board has shown today just

604
00:29:45.845 --> 00:29:49.005
by taking action and moving forward that yes,

605
00:29:49.065 --> 00:29:50.445
you want it maintained better than

606
00:29:50.445 --> 00:29:51.725
what it has been over the last year.

607
00:29:52.775 --> 00:29:54.035
So there, there's your answer.

608
00:29:54.175 --> 00:29:57.035
And, and I absolutely agree with you

609
00:29:57.035 --> 00:29:59.435
that lake is disgusting

610
00:29:59.695 --> 00:30:01.635
and it has looked good for many years

611
00:30:01.855 --> 00:30:04.795
and this year it is just not nice at

612
00:30:04.795 --> 00:30:05.795
All. So my question is, what

613
00:30:05.795 --> 00:30:06.235
has changed?

614
00:30:06.295 --> 00:30:08.355
And are we, do we have the right people involved?

615
00:30:08.355 --> 00:30:09.755
And who's really responsible for

616
00:30:09.755 --> 00:30:11.035
The meeting of that property?

617
00:30:11.035 --> 00:30:12.955
Well, I, you know, I don't think that we can answer

618
00:30:12.955 --> 00:30:14.675
that right now, but I will tell you that

619
00:30:14.935 --> 00:30:17.875
by bringing it forward and presenting it to the board

620
00:30:18.135 --> 00:30:21.235
and the, uh, uh,

621
00:30:21.875 --> 00:30:25.395
property management people are realize that we are upset

622
00:30:25.395 --> 00:30:27.875
with this situation and that it needs to be

623
00:30:27.875 --> 00:30:28.875
Addressed. I'm

624
00:30:28.875 --> 00:30:31.635
thinking that legal action is gonna be appropriate if

625
00:30:31.635 --> 00:30:33.315
you don't have the commitment to do something about

626
00:30:33.315 --> 00:30:34.555
it. It's an issue.

627
00:30:35.355 --> 00:30:38.915
I, I, yes, you know, you need to go to your CDD two board

628
00:30:38.935 --> 00:30:41.795
and make I'm the same commitment from them.

629
00:30:41.985 --> 00:30:43.475
I'll be here for the next one, but yes, we need

630
00:30:43.475 --> 00:30:44.595
to do something about that way.

631
00:30:44.595 --> 00:30:48.515
Right. I'll be here for the next one. So again, yes.

632
00:30:48.535 --> 00:30:50.195
And have you ever been intimidated yet

633
00:30:50.195 --> 00:30:52.995
through all the hurricanes since 24 years here And yes,

634
00:30:53.065 --> 00:30:56.355
I've been intimidated with the, with the pond's rising.

635
00:30:56.815 --> 00:30:58.995
So I'm happy that they're able to move it up and down.

636
00:30:59.375 --> 00:31:02.795
And I think circulating that water is the real answer along

637
00:31:02.795 --> 00:31:04.155
with the grass carpet and other things

638
00:31:04.535 --> 00:31:06.155
and the proper chemicals.

639
00:31:06.575 --> 00:31:08.435
So get a hold of the last guys that you hired

640
00:31:08.495 --> 00:31:09.515
and find out what they were doing

641
00:31:09.895 --> 00:31:12.475
or fire this group and rehire them.

642
00:31:13.105 --> 00:31:15.195
Okay. Thank you you's All I to say Thank you.

643
00:31:16.385 --> 00:31:18.155
Does anyone else have 2 cents worth?

644
00:31:20.635 --> 00:31:22.175
No. Okay.

645
00:31:24.475 --> 00:31:26.095
Uh, thank you for your comments.

646
00:31:26.335 --> 00:31:28.255
I appreciate your taking the, hold on just

647
00:31:28.255 --> 00:31:29.255
A minute. Oh,

648
00:31:29.255 --> 00:31:33.295
I'm sorry. Sure. Come on up.

649
00:31:43.455 --> 00:31:47.245
Donna Alker 1318 Loma Lane. I have some photographs.

650
00:31:49.805 --> 00:31:52.205
I understand that I, in this board,

651
00:31:57.165 --> 00:32:00.085
I was here last month talking about the ongoing, um,

652
00:32:00.095 --> 00:32:02.045
water break, line break problems

653
00:32:02.065 --> 00:32:03.125
we have in the neighborhood.

654
00:32:04.145 --> 00:32:05.885
And just wanted to update you.

655
00:32:06.585 --> 00:32:08.045
Um, the problems we're still having.

656
00:32:08.825 --> 00:32:12.125
Um, the one picture shows some pavement

657
00:32:12.125 --> 00:32:14.045
that was repaired after a break.

658
00:32:14.625 --> 00:32:16.245
It was, again, done improperly.

659
00:32:16.265 --> 00:32:17.765
It wasn't backfilled properly.

660
00:32:18.425 --> 00:32:21.125
You can see the waviness maybe not so much in the photos.

661
00:32:21.865 --> 00:32:23.525
We have puddles in that area now.

662
00:32:23.525 --> 00:32:25.205
We never had puddles on our road before.

663
00:32:26.385 --> 00:32:30.605
Um, they're leaving voids under the road

664
00:32:32.395 --> 00:32:34.365
When they repair these water breaks.

665
00:32:35.155 --> 00:32:39.085
Leaving voids is the start of sinkhole.

666
00:32:39.705 --> 00:32:43.765
But down at off Talley Ridge Road, you'll see a big sinkhole

667
00:32:44.395 --> 00:32:46.245
next to a storm inlet

668
00:32:46.715 --> 00:32:48.445
that didn't happen just from this storm.

669
00:32:49.035 --> 00:32:51.485
They start small and they grow

670
00:32:51.985 --> 00:32:53.325
and a lot of times they start

671
00:32:53.325 --> 00:32:55.405
where you can't see them under the pavement.

672
00:32:55.585 --> 00:32:57.725
That's what's happening in our neighborhood.

673
00:33:00.365 --> 00:33:01.605
I have, we have a sinkhole

674
00:33:01.605 --> 00:33:04.245
that's been developing right in our landscape area

675
00:33:04.475 --> 00:33:07.085
because of these water main breaks that's been going on

676
00:33:07.825 --> 00:33:10.045
for over a year with this sinkhole development.

677
00:33:10.385 --> 00:33:11.765
And then they'll fill it in a little bit

678
00:33:11.765 --> 00:33:13.045
or throw some stone in.

679
00:33:13.555 --> 00:33:16.605
They never address the real problem, which is

680
00:33:17.035 --> 00:33:19.245
that there is no soil

681
00:33:19.775 --> 00:33:22.325
under the concrete take piece.

682
00:33:22.345 --> 00:33:23.405
And you'll see it in the photo.

683
00:33:24.475 --> 00:33:26.525
It's all been washed down with these water breaks,

684
00:33:26.665 --> 00:33:29.405
it washes down, probably follows the path

685
00:33:29.405 --> 00:33:32.725
of the storm drain gets and, and down into the lake.

686
00:33:32.825 --> 00:33:35.245
So you're also getting all that sediment down in the lakes

687
00:33:35.575 --> 00:33:37.285
could be contributing to maybe some

688
00:33:37.285 --> 00:33:38.605
of these pond problems we're having.

689
00:33:39.545 --> 00:33:44.085
Um, I, I need, we need to see action.

690
00:33:44.085 --> 00:33:46.845
You also see the only thing that's been done in front

691
00:33:46.845 --> 00:33:51.725
of our house is, um, CDD, uh, a fellow named Bill,

692
00:33:51.725 --> 00:33:54.885
who was very informative, put a flag in there.

693
00:33:54.885 --> 00:33:56.165
Nothing's been done since

694
00:33:56.835 --> 00:33:58.885
that concrete slab needs to be removed.

695
00:33:59.385 --> 00:34:01.085
It needs to be properly backfilled

696
00:34:01.085 --> 00:34:03.205
and compacted and then replaced.

697
00:34:04.235 --> 00:34:05.815
And that same that needs

698
00:34:05.815 --> 00:34:07.655
to happen in the pavement in Loma Lane.

699
00:34:07.765 --> 00:34:10.335
There's so many patches that have,

700
00:34:10.355 --> 00:34:12.775
and there hasn't been proper compaction.

701
00:34:13.395 --> 00:34:18.095
And I would also urge the board to develop some regulations

702
00:34:18.395 --> 00:34:19.855
and some specifications

703
00:34:19.955 --> 00:34:24.015
and standards for how these roads get repaired

704
00:34:24.185 --> 00:34:27.335
after the utility comes in or any utility

705
00:34:27.635 --> 00:34:30.415
and digs up the road to, to do a repair.

706
00:34:30.565 --> 00:34:32.975
They need to know what they're supposed to do

707
00:34:32.995 --> 00:34:34.015
to fix it properly.

708
00:34:34.365 --> 00:34:38.455
Because these are district one roads. This is in the villas.

709
00:34:38.855 --> 00:34:42.335
District one owns these roads. It's our expense.

710
00:34:43.635 --> 00:34:47.295
We shouldn't be paying the price later when these roads fail

711
00:34:47.295 --> 00:34:50.535
because a utility didn't do proper work

712
00:34:51.075 --> 00:34:54.735
and restore the road to the condition it should be in.

713
00:34:55.665 --> 00:34:57.095
Thank you. Bruce.

714
00:34:57.195 --> 00:34:58.775
Do you, and I would also like the minutes

715
00:34:58.915 --> 00:35:00.935
to re I don't know, I didn't get to see the minutes,

716
00:35:01.355 --> 00:35:04.935
but I hope the minutes reflect that when I come here,

717
00:35:05.475 --> 00:35:08.575
at least who I am and what my topic is.

718
00:35:09.265 --> 00:35:10.455
Thank you. Thank you.

719
00:35:11.635 --> 00:35:14.615
And um, Madam Chair, this is on old business.

720
00:35:14.955 --> 00:35:18.535
Um, we have all of the email correspondence that, um,

721
00:35:18.555 --> 00:35:21.895
Mr. Brown has sent the board regarding, um, as a response

722
00:35:21.915 --> 00:35:23.895
to her inquiry last month.

723
00:35:24.395 --> 00:35:26.055
So I'm not sure if you've seen it,

724
00:35:26.075 --> 00:35:30.135
but if you look at the agenda, um, there's been, um,

725
00:35:31.415 --> 00:35:33.855
probably four pages, five pages worth of emails

726
00:35:33.955 --> 00:35:35.575
and information provided to the board.

727
00:35:35.915 --> 00:35:37.805
But if you would like Mr. Brown to go

728
00:35:37.805 --> 00:35:39.845
through a a quick overview, he'd be happy to.

729
00:35:39.955 --> 00:35:41.685
Yeah, and Mr. Brown did respond to me.

730
00:35:41.685 --> 00:35:44.125
And one thing that troubles me is that, um,

731
00:35:44.515 --> 00:35:46.205
when they do the next repair,

732
00:35:46.555 --> 00:35:48.445
they're the water company's planning on

733
00:35:48.445 --> 00:35:50.205
boring under the pavement.

734
00:35:50.205 --> 00:35:51.765
So they're not gonna open up the pavement

735
00:35:51.765 --> 00:35:54.565
and do compaction and that's a problem.

736
00:35:54.795 --> 00:35:56.885
They need to do it and I'm gonna attend their

737
00:35:56.885 --> 00:35:58.205
meeting, um, next week.

738
00:35:59.425 --> 00:36:01.365
But they, that needs to be done right.

739
00:36:01.465 --> 00:36:03.685
The, the boring isn't gonna work.

740
00:36:03.875 --> 00:36:06.205
It's gonna leave those gaps under the pavement.

741
00:36:07.075 --> 00:36:09.925
Okay, thank you. And, and that is more of

742
00:36:09.925 --> 00:36:12.645
where this should be, is that the village center meeting?

743
00:36:12.965 --> 00:36:15.685
'cause it is a village center utility that is taking place

744
00:36:15.745 --> 00:36:18.085
and they're the ones conducting the work and funding it.

745
00:36:18.505 --> 00:36:20.605
But if you would like Mr. Brown to have a com

746
00:36:20.745 --> 00:36:23.805
to go over your roads, he can certainly do that.

747
00:36:23.945 --> 00:36:28.485
But this is more for village center. Um, okay.

748
00:36:28.595 --> 00:36:30.805
Bill, are you comfortable with that? Yeah.

749
00:36:31.745 --> 00:36:34.765
Has there been any other utility worked

750
00:36:34.825 --> 00:36:36.005
on in that area, Bruce?

751
00:36:38.105 --> 00:36:39.165
No. No.

752
00:36:52.195 --> 00:36:53.685
Good morning again, Bruce Brown,

753
00:36:53.685 --> 00:36:54.845
assistant district manager.

754
00:36:55.625 --> 00:36:59.325
I'm not sure which villa, uh, the resident was referring

755
00:36:59.325 --> 00:37:00.405
to right off the top of my head.

756
00:37:00.485 --> 00:37:04.125
I didn't catch that. But as you know, there's 15 villas

757
00:37:04.235 --> 00:37:06.765
that need to have the service lines replaced.

758
00:37:07.495 --> 00:37:10.285
We've completed patio villas so far.

759
00:37:10.655 --> 00:37:12.725
We're proceeding with two more

760
00:37:13.435 --> 00:37:15.125
this fiscal year that will be done.

761
00:37:15.125 --> 00:37:19.085
This is a multi-year project, so it will probably take three

762
00:37:19.085 --> 00:37:20.925
to four years to complete all of these.

763
00:37:21.865 --> 00:37:25.245
Uh, they're, the resident is correct.

764
00:37:25.545 --> 00:37:29.365
We are unit direct. You directionally boring under the road.

765
00:37:30.265 --> 00:37:33.565
Uh, it worked perfectly fine in patio villas.

766
00:37:34.355 --> 00:37:36.485
It's a much less expensive

767
00:37:36.585 --> 00:37:40.205
and easier way of doing it versus cutting patches up

768
00:37:40.205 --> 00:37:41.925
through every road in front of every house.

769
00:37:42.875 --> 00:37:46.615
Um, so, um, we'll continue with that project.

770
00:37:47.735 --> 00:37:49.575
I think I've sent as, as Ms.

771
00:37:49.575 --> 00:37:50.775
Duckett stated, lots

772
00:37:50.775 --> 00:37:52.575
of correspondence on why we're doing this

773
00:37:52.675 --> 00:37:54.695
and when we're doing it and how we're doing it.

774
00:37:55.355 --> 00:37:59.015
Um, patio villas was the first project we've done, um,

775
00:38:00.215 --> 00:38:03.935
recently back in 2015 timeframe.

776
00:38:04.175 --> 00:38:06.695
I think some other areas were done in the village center

777
00:38:06.725 --> 00:38:09.735
area, uh, service line replacements as well.

778
00:38:10.395 --> 00:38:12.375
So those that have been replaced have

779
00:38:12.375 --> 00:38:13.735
performed exceptionally well.

780
00:38:14.315 --> 00:38:17.895
But as these old lines age out, that's why you're seeing

781
00:38:17.995 --> 00:38:20.455
so many breaks in the district one villa areas.

782
00:38:21.885 --> 00:38:25.535
Okay. I understand the, the drilling

783
00:38:25.635 --> 00:38:28.095
and putting in the new, the new lines,

784
00:38:28.555 --> 00:38:32.135
but what about her issue of the pavement sinking

785
00:38:32.135 --> 00:38:33.735
that's already been repaired

786
00:38:34.155 --> 00:38:36.285
and the holes that are developing

787
00:38:36.285 --> 00:38:39.485
because there was not enough backfill put into 'em.

788
00:38:39.825 --> 00:38:41.885
Is that something that you're also addressing?

789
00:38:42.665 --> 00:38:45.245
So I have talked to Jacobs about some of those issues.

790
00:38:45.315 --> 00:38:47.405
They use subcontractors to come back.

791
00:38:47.425 --> 00:38:48.925
So Jacobs does the repairs.

792
00:38:49.465 --> 00:38:53.045
Uh, they use subcontractors come back and do the compaction

793
00:38:53.145 --> 00:38:55.005
and the asphalt resurfacing.

794
00:38:55.705 --> 00:38:58.485
And we have had some challenges with the quality of work

795
00:38:58.985 --> 00:39:00.445
and we have addressed that with them.

796
00:39:00.745 --> 00:39:02.725
And they're looking at, uh, trying

797
00:39:02.725 --> 00:39:04.725
to use different contractors to do that.

798
00:39:05.585 --> 00:39:09.525
So, you know, you can only compact, you know,

799
00:39:09.525 --> 00:39:11.685
if you cut an area as of out of asphalt,

800
00:39:11.685 --> 00:39:15.405
you effect the repair, you can only compact it so much.

801
00:39:16.025 --> 00:39:18.645
And then when you put, uh, asphalt on top of it,

802
00:39:18.745 --> 00:39:21.445
it can happen at times where it will settle some

803
00:39:21.785 --> 00:39:24.685
and residents should report that to customer service

804
00:39:25.675 --> 00:39:27.645
utilities and they will come out

805
00:39:27.905 --> 00:39:30.485
and repair it again if needed.

806
00:39:30.905 --> 00:39:32.125
It generally should not happen,

807
00:39:32.225 --> 00:39:33.485
but it occasionally does happen.

808
00:39:34.755 --> 00:39:38.005
Okay. I know I experienced that myself on San Marino

809
00:39:38.435 --> 00:39:39.925
with some of the repairs there

810
00:39:40.025 --> 00:39:42.485
and it just kept sinking in and sinking in.

811
00:39:42.565 --> 00:39:45.365
I was, I I understand what she's saying about

812
00:39:46.395 --> 00:39:47.645
that sinking happening.

813
00:39:47.985 --> 00:39:49.485
So if it does happen, report it.

814
00:39:49.575 --> 00:39:51.405
We'll go back out and we'll make it right.

815
00:39:52.235 --> 00:39:54.725
Okay. Thank you. Any questions?

816
00:39:55.625 --> 00:39:58.645
Sir, you have to come to the podium.

817
00:40:09.105 --> 00:40:13.485
Bob Alker 1318 Loma Lane, Rio Grandville

818
00:40:14.185 --> 00:40:15.805
at the Courtyard, right?

819
00:40:15.905 --> 00:40:19.045
Uh, this has been happening. We were here last month.

820
00:40:19.475 --> 00:40:21.765
Same thing. Yeah, they came out, they, they,

821
00:40:21.955 --> 00:40:23.165
they fixed the leaks.

822
00:40:23.815 --> 00:40:27.965
Right. Billy, who has been currently working, uh,

823
00:40:28.065 --> 00:40:30.245
for DPM for, uh,

824
00:40:30.625 --> 00:40:33.085
26 years called Austin.

825
00:40:34.295 --> 00:40:37.205
Right. Because I have Austin's number off

826
00:40:38.425 --> 00:40:40.285
and he pretty good guy.

827
00:40:40.615 --> 00:40:43.125
Right? But he put a flag in, in the thing

828
00:40:43.635 --> 00:40:45.685
that picture we gave you, right?

829
00:40:46.185 --> 00:40:50.885
Uh, last month it was 16 inches this morning, 24 inches.

830
00:40:51.395 --> 00:40:55.525
It's also six inches deeper in the thing. Right?

831
00:40:55.745 --> 00:40:58.925
All they do often, often told me,

832
00:40:59.235 --> 00:41:01.725
because I told 'em, they they fixed this leak.

833
00:41:02.025 --> 00:41:04.165
The leak comes up, right?

834
00:41:04.165 --> 00:41:07.445
Instead of, uh, the road comes up in my, uh,

835
00:41:07.475 --> 00:41:09.045
landscape, right?

836
00:41:09.425 --> 00:41:12.365
And it, it goes first, it starts between the concrete

837
00:41:12.365 --> 00:41:15.525
and the macada, then it comes up in my landscape.

838
00:41:16.015 --> 00:41:18.265
They fix it through the landscaping. Right.

839
00:41:18.405 --> 00:41:20.985
And, uh, this is like the fourth time that they,

840
00:41:21.055 --> 00:41:22.505
they fix it, right?

841
00:41:22.645 --> 00:41:26.065
All they do is throw rocks on it and make a big pile. Right.

842
00:41:26.365 --> 00:41:28.825
And now it washes away.

843
00:41:29.285 --> 00:41:31.825
And now that, that picture right.

844
00:41:32.115 --> 00:41:33.365
Often Colton,

845
00:41:33.365 --> 00:41:35.605
because I said you can't get packed this thing

846
00:41:35.785 --> 00:41:37.445
by county a shovel on.

847
00:41:37.735 --> 00:41:40.165
Right. Uh, April when they fixed it

848
00:41:40.165 --> 00:41:41.925
and you can look in the, in your, uh,

849
00:41:42.685 --> 00:41:44.125
whatever the records are, right?

850
00:41:44.305 --> 00:41:46.925
It said they, uh, bring out tax, right?

851
00:41:46.925 --> 00:41:49.125
Well, they brought out the compactors, didn't bring gas.

852
00:41:51.905 --> 00:41:53.445
You can laugh, you, you know,

853
00:41:53.865 --> 00:41:55.765
but it Yeah, that shook my head too.

854
00:41:55.835 --> 00:41:59.725
They said they'd be back. They were never back. Right.

855
00:42:00.145 --> 00:42:02.885
It came out, I complained about the, uh, the,

856
00:42:03.265 --> 00:42:06.445
now it's a pile stand about up to my knee, right?

857
00:42:06.995 --> 00:42:10.685
They say it eight weeks for, uh, the, whoever does the, uh,

858
00:42:11.725 --> 00:42:14.845
cosmetic stuff on, on landscaping come out pipe the planes.

859
00:42:15.355 --> 00:42:19.725
They, you know, eight weeks they come out, they pat it down,

860
00:42:19.995 --> 00:42:23.245
they took out some sand, they threw four,

861
00:42:23.715 --> 00:42:26.725
five gallons buckets of, uh, red Rock on the thing,

862
00:42:27.105 --> 00:42:28.125
and they called it the dead.

863
00:42:29.385 --> 00:42:31.725
Now that's, that's, that's what it is now.

864
00:42:32.305 --> 00:42:35.565
Uh, that hole with the thing now Jacob,

865
00:42:38.545 --> 00:42:42.245
no, you gotta get somebody else or at least have somebody go

866
00:42:42.245 --> 00:42:43.845
and check their work, right?

867
00:42:43.845 --> 00:42:47.045
Yeah. You know, it, it a disgrace

868
00:42:48.185 --> 00:42:50.245
and you know, I'm really here just

869
00:42:50.465 --> 00:42:52.485
so when the road collapses

870
00:42:52.665 --> 00:42:56.165
or my landscaping go, all goes into things,

871
00:42:56.195 --> 00:42:59.125
lawyers have some somewhere to say that you guys knew

872
00:42:59.125 --> 00:43:01.685
what was going on and, you know.

873
00:43:02.975 --> 00:43:06.205
Thank you, sir. I feel your frustration.

874
00:43:07.525 --> 00:43:10.165
I might say that no matter how hard you try,

875
00:43:10.335 --> 00:43:12.965
compaction is always going to be an issue.

876
00:43:14.025 --> 00:43:16.845
We were, you could do the very best you can do.

877
00:43:17.785 --> 00:43:19.845
And it's still, there'll be spots

878
00:43:19.945 --> 00:43:21.325
for compaction to the problem.

879
00:43:22.075 --> 00:43:26.885
Well, well, they, they have to, they, they,

880
00:43:27.825 --> 00:43:30.765
we complained before and they came out right.

881
00:43:30.865 --> 00:43:34.165
And they made, uh, uh, now this is in the McCada.

882
00:43:34.595 --> 00:43:37.165
They had a little hole about the size of this. Yeah. Right.

883
00:43:37.165 --> 00:43:38.565
And then they cut it bigger

884
00:43:39.185 --> 00:43:43.725
and it took five trailers of sand

885
00:43:44.705 --> 00:43:46.485
to compact, compact it down.

886
00:43:46.625 --> 00:43:48.005
And, uh, we were amazed

887
00:43:48.675 --> 00:43:50.885
that they start out, uh, street level.

888
00:43:51.155 --> 00:43:52.525
Compact it down. Yeah.

889
00:43:52.525 --> 00:43:55.565
And it goes down two feet, take another trail, you know.

890
00:43:55.825 --> 00:43:56.825
So we're,

891
00:43:57.485 --> 00:44:00.485
I I I was the licensed engineer for 30 years.

892
00:44:00.905 --> 00:44:02.125
You name and address ma'am.

893
00:44:02.305 --> 00:44:06.085
Um, Donna Alker, again, 1318 Loma Lane Compaction work.

894
00:44:06.625 --> 00:44:08.725
You can get good compaction. That's right.

895
00:44:08.865 --> 00:44:10.965
If you do it proper's. Correct. So I don't wanna hear that.

896
00:44:10.995 --> 00:44:12.685
It's hard if you don't

897
00:44:13.745 --> 00:44:16.485
cut the pavement over the area with the void.

898
00:44:16.905 --> 00:44:18.325
You can't compact it

899
00:44:18.705 --> 00:44:21.765
unless they have something that can compact sideways now,

900
00:44:21.765 --> 00:44:22.805
but I'm not aware of it.

901
00:44:23.105 --> 00:44:24.365
You have to compact it down.

902
00:44:24.505 --> 00:44:27.285
So they need to cut bigger areas and,

903
00:44:27.585 --> 00:44:29.285
and like Bob said, there was one patch.

904
00:44:29.545 --> 00:44:31.045
The guys were out there the whole day

905
00:44:31.405 --> 00:44:32.445
bringing load after load.

906
00:44:32.605 --> 00:44:36.805
I was amazed how much dirt it took to compact it properly.

907
00:44:36.905 --> 00:44:39.405
But they did it this last one, they didn't.

908
00:44:39.945 --> 00:44:43.525
And most of them, they don't do it that way. Thank you.

909
00:44:45.305 --> 00:44:49.045
Anyone else? Okay,

910
00:44:49.665 --> 00:44:53.565
moving forward, if any of you would like to leave now,

911
00:44:53.585 --> 00:44:54.925
it would be a good opportunity.

912
00:44:55.105 --> 00:44:57.605
But we'd love to have you stay for the rest of the meeting.

913
00:44:58.145 --> 00:44:59.485
But we are now going

914
00:44:59.485 --> 00:45:02.085
to have our law enforcement quarterly update.

915
00:45:09.995 --> 00:45:11.805
Good morning. Good morning. My

916
00:45:11.805 --> 00:45:12.845
Name's Sergeant Adam Dodge with

917
00:45:12.845 --> 00:45:13.925
the Sumter County Sheriff's Office.

918
00:45:13.985 --> 00:45:15.085
I'm here to provide you with your

919
00:45:15.085 --> 00:45:16.405
quarterly law enforcement update.

920
00:45:16.705 --> 00:45:19.125
Now, typically during these, uh, updates, I provide you

921
00:45:19.125 --> 00:45:21.485
with some statistical information about, uh,

922
00:45:21.485 --> 00:45:22.485
recent citations

923
00:45:22.545 --> 00:45:24.685
and crashes that occur here within the villages.

924
00:45:24.955 --> 00:45:27.845
Unfortunately, right now, I'm not able to provide you with

925
00:45:27.845 --> 00:45:29.085
that statistical information.

926
00:45:29.265 --> 00:45:32.165
The Sheriff's office, as you likely are aware, was, uh,

927
00:45:32.365 --> 00:45:34.965
involved in a ransomware attack, which has made, uh,

928
00:45:35.755 --> 00:45:37.805
compiling statistical data difficult.

929
00:45:37.855 --> 00:45:39.765
There hasn't been any impact on the service

930
00:45:39.865 --> 00:45:41.085
the Sheriff's office can provide.

931
00:45:41.425 --> 00:45:43.725
If a citizen calls law enforcement, we,

932
00:45:44.065 --> 00:45:45.805
we respond in just the same manner.

933
00:45:45.805 --> 00:45:49.925
However, uh, our processes of, uh, communicating

934
00:45:49.925 --> 00:45:50.965
through reports and,

935
00:45:50.985 --> 00:45:54.005
and the the way that statistical data is collected has been

936
00:45:54.165 --> 00:45:55.525
impacted by that ransomware attack.

937
00:45:55.585 --> 00:45:58.245
So I don't have any, uh, updated crash numbers

938
00:45:58.345 --> 00:45:59.925
or citation numbers to provide you.

939
00:46:00.565 --> 00:46:03.685
I wish I did. Um, I did wanna make you aware, uh,

940
00:46:03.685 --> 00:46:05.125
obviously we've just encountered a,

941
00:46:05.205 --> 00:46:07.685
a fairly significant storm here in the state of Florida.

942
00:46:08.025 --> 00:46:10.005
The Suffolk County Sheriff's Office was involved

943
00:46:10.005 --> 00:46:12.445
with several other stakeholders from within the community,

944
00:46:12.825 --> 00:46:16.005
uh, in, uh, activating our emergency operations center.

945
00:46:16.345 --> 00:46:18.925
And the EOC was involved in, uh, uh,

946
00:46:21.075 --> 00:46:23.365
providing, uh, shelters across the community.

947
00:46:23.365 --> 00:46:26.005
We had, uh, several hundred individuals from Sumter County

948
00:46:26.105 --> 00:46:27.525
who, uh, sought shelter and,

949
00:46:27.545 --> 00:46:30.405
and, uh, those, uh, establishments provided by the county.

950
00:46:30.945 --> 00:46:34.125
Um, and the EOC was, uh, we feel very successful in, uh,

951
00:46:34.125 --> 00:46:37.845
coordinating not only our, uh, free storm actions,

952
00:46:38.025 --> 00:46:39.485
but, uh, post storm.

953
00:46:39.705 --> 00:46:42.525
Uh, as soon as the winds were at a safe level for deputies

954
00:46:42.525 --> 00:46:45.165
to be on the road, deputies were out within the community,

955
00:46:45.265 --> 00:46:48.885
uh, checking roadways, uh, identifying hazards, trees

956
00:46:49.025 --> 00:46:52.125
or down traffic, uh, signs or poles

957
00:46:52.425 --> 00:46:53.765
and making sure that the, uh,

958
00:46:53.905 --> 00:46:56.605
the community was the safest possible as we then began

959
00:46:56.605 --> 00:46:58.005
that recovery phase. So,

960
00:46:58.355 --> 00:47:00.805
Just outta curiosity, what time was

961
00:47:00.805 --> 00:47:02.765
that when you felt safe enough to go on the road?

962
00:47:03.305 --> 00:47:08.165
Uh, that, that time, I believe that was at, uh, just

963
00:47:08.165 --> 00:47:09.885
before 4:00 AM on Thursday

964
00:47:09.885 --> 00:47:10.765
Morning. Okay. Thank

965
00:47:10.765 --> 00:47:11.765
You. Yep. By our policy,

966
00:47:11.765 --> 00:47:14.485
uh, we are restricted on operation

967
00:47:14.485 --> 00:47:16.965
of vehicles when there's a sustained wind, uh,

968
00:47:17.065 --> 00:47:18.885
at which is 45 miles an hour.

969
00:47:19.185 --> 00:47:21.765
Uh, we were seeing winds, uh, gusting, uh,

970
00:47:21.765 --> 00:47:23.205
well over 60 miles an hour.

971
00:47:23.345 --> 00:47:26.245
So, uh, just for the safety of the deputies.

972
00:47:26.305 --> 00:47:28.765
And that's not to say that if there was a significant

973
00:47:29.125 --> 00:47:30.605
incident or a crime in progress or,

974
00:47:30.665 --> 00:47:33.885
or, uh, someone's life, uh, in danger,

975
00:47:33.995 --> 00:47:35.165
that we would not respond.

976
00:47:35.545 --> 00:47:38.845
But we, we elect not to have our deputies out there in some,

977
00:47:38.845 --> 00:47:40.845
some of the most, uh, severe wind conditions.

978
00:47:41.235 --> 00:47:44.165
Okay. Thank you. Fantastic. Have any questions for me?

979
00:47:44.595 --> 00:47:49.525
Yeah. Uh, you have temporary controls on boards right now.

980
00:47:50.705 --> 00:47:54.125
Say there in the future, will there be permanent ones?

981
00:47:54.685 --> 00:47:57.885
I don't know that we intend currently to, uh, place,

982
00:47:58.465 --> 00:47:59.925
uh, permanent signage there.

983
00:48:00.225 --> 00:48:01.845
Uh, the temporary signage is great

984
00:48:01.845 --> 00:48:04.365
because it allows us flexibility to move and, and,

985
00:48:04.385 --> 00:48:06.245
and we can place those wherever

986
00:48:06.245 --> 00:48:07.725
that impact is needed. Yeah.

987
00:48:08.105 --> 00:48:10.805
But since you said you really don't have a statistic

988
00:48:10.805 --> 00:48:14.965
showing the result of these temporary signs,

989
00:48:15.905 --> 00:48:20.565
uh, it's kind of a hit and miss whether they are part of it

990
00:48:20.625 --> 00:48:22.325
or just all of it or,

991
00:48:23.145 --> 00:48:26.165
and whether they're the future will, you know,

992
00:48:26.185 --> 00:48:28.925
that's why I'm asking will it be a continual control?

993
00:48:30.085 --> 00:48:32.205
Absolutely. And we don't believe there's an,

994
00:48:32.205 --> 00:48:34.565
there's an impact in the services provided

995
00:48:34.565 --> 00:48:37.045
because of our, oh, I know that our, our,

996
00:48:37.145 --> 00:48:38.205
uh, temporary outage.

997
00:48:38.625 --> 00:48:40.765
Um, but we know that the, uh,

998
00:48:40.935 --> 00:48:43.485
speed enforcement there are more boulevard, um,

999
00:48:43.745 --> 00:48:45.565
is a continuing, uh, issue.

1000
00:48:45.745 --> 00:48:48.245
And, uh, we, we foresee no reason why we would,

1001
00:48:48.305 --> 00:48:49.445
we would stop, uh,

1002
00:48:49.445 --> 00:48:51.565
having such a significant presence there on that roof.

1003
00:48:52.455 --> 00:48:54.445
Thank you. Go ahead. No,

1004
00:48:56.475 --> 00:48:58.005
There's a question from the audience.

1005
00:48:59.095 --> 00:49:03.885
Hello, sir. Good morning.

1006
00:49:03.945 --> 00:49:06.445
Uh, Jim Vaccaro 5 0 2 Herrera Court.

1007
00:49:06.945 --> 00:49:08.765
Um, you, when I, when I look at those signs,

1008
00:49:08.765 --> 00:49:09.925
and I'm glad you brought 'em up,

1009
00:49:10.435 --> 00:49:13.965
they seem like they're at the end of Morris Boulevard

1010
00:49:13.985 --> 00:49:16.085
and the direction that you're going, you know,

1011
00:49:16.085 --> 00:49:18.325
where I see people bulleting out of places

1012
00:49:19.025 --> 00:49:22.005
is right at the gate at Morris and 4 66

1013
00:49:22.585 --> 00:49:24.925
and on the other end where there's a two lane

1014
00:49:24.985 --> 00:49:29.205
and it kind of, you know, grew transfers into one lane.

1015
00:49:29.745 --> 00:49:32.245
You know, you could be going 35 miles an hour, someone come

1016
00:49:32.245 --> 00:49:33.365
by you at 50 miles an hour.

1017
00:49:33.965 --> 00:49:36.165
I mean, there's where you need to sign where they,

1018
00:49:36.165 --> 00:49:39.165
they're going 50 miles an hour when they get on the road.

1019
00:49:39.625 --> 00:49:41.605
I'm not sure when they're starting to get off the road.

1020
00:49:42.025 --> 00:49:43.845
You got it all the way down at the end on one

1021
00:49:43.905 --> 00:49:45.805
and when you're going north

1022
00:49:45.805 --> 00:49:48.245
and all the way down at the end when you're going south.

1023
00:49:48.385 --> 00:49:50.445
So I would just like, if they're movable,

1024
00:49:51.105 --> 00:49:52.645
put 'em in a position where people would,

1025
00:49:52.715 --> 00:49:55.445
when they get on the road, Hey, the speed limit's 30,

1026
00:49:55.915 --> 00:49:57.765
it's not 50 when you come out of the gate.

1027
00:49:58.265 --> 00:49:59.265
Thanks.

1028
00:50:00.605 --> 00:50:03.645
I I like the mobile, uh, speed signs too.

1029
00:50:04.825 --> 00:50:06.645
You never know for sure where they're going

1030
00:50:06.645 --> 00:50:08.205
to be the next time you go out on Morris.

1031
00:50:08.345 --> 00:50:11.645
So I, I like, I like your ability

1032
00:50:11.665 --> 00:50:13.285
to move them around, certainly.

1033
00:50:14.895 --> 00:50:17.405
Thank you. Anything else? No, ma'am. Okay.

1034
00:50:17.405 --> 00:50:18.405
Thank you very much. Thank you.

1035
00:50:20.225 --> 00:50:23.845
At this point in time, I would consent, I would, uh, uh,

1036
00:50:24.115 --> 00:50:26.765
entertain a motion to approve our, um,

1037
00:50:26.765 --> 00:50:28.205
minutes from the last meeting.

1038
00:50:28.825 --> 00:50:31.445
And madam chair, the consent agenda would be both the

1039
00:50:31.445 --> 00:50:33.965
minutes and, um, B, which is amendment four

1040
00:50:33.965 --> 00:50:37.605
and renewal 14 to agreement RSP 10 P dash 15.

1041
00:50:38.265 --> 00:50:40.485
You could certainly pull one from the consent agenda,

1042
00:50:40.705 --> 00:50:43.685
but if, um, moving forward, since those are routine,

1043
00:50:43.745 --> 00:50:45.045
it would include both of those.

1044
00:50:46.985 --> 00:50:48.605
Do either one of you wanna pull anything?

1045
00:50:49.925 --> 00:50:53.085
I I give Do the,

1046
00:50:53.585 --> 00:50:56.085
the consent agenda is for A and B.

1047
00:50:56.185 --> 00:50:59.565
So on your agenda, if you see it includes the minutes

1048
00:50:59.825 --> 00:51:01.605
and then an amendment to an agreement,

1049
00:51:01.975 --> 00:51:04.565
these are generally considered routine items

1050
00:51:04.825 --> 00:51:06.365
and can be approved together

1051
00:51:06.665 --> 00:51:08.645
unless somebody wants to pull one of them,

1052
00:51:10.665 --> 00:51:11.665
No.

1053
00:51:13.685 --> 00:51:15.765
A motion. So we just

1054
00:51:15.765 --> 00:51:17.405
Need a motion to approve the consent agenda.

1055
00:51:19.395 --> 00:51:24.085
Okay. I move that this board approves the consent agenda

1056
00:51:24.385 --> 00:51:26.405
as written, including the minutes

1057
00:51:27.025 --> 00:51:31.565
and amendment for renewal 14 to agreement RFP

1058
00:51:32.345 --> 00:51:36.285
10 T zero 15 investment advisory services

1059
00:51:36.755 --> 00:51:40.165
with US Bankcorp Asset Management, Inc.

1060
00:51:41.075 --> 00:51:42.075
Okay.

1061
00:51:42.735 --> 00:51:46.605
Those in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you.

1062
00:51:48.825 --> 00:51:52.525
Uh, at this point we have a new business. Yes ma'am.

1063
00:51:52.525 --> 00:51:56.285
Mr. Armstrong will present resolution 2025 dash zero two

1064
00:51:56.305 --> 00:51:58.085
travel expense reimbursement

1065
00:51:58.665 --> 00:52:00.925
for your A RC committee, volunteer member.

1066
00:52:03.435 --> 00:52:05.365
Good Morning Board, mayor Armstrong, director

1067
00:52:05.365 --> 00:52:06.605
of Community Standards.

1068
00:52:07.225 --> 00:52:09.565
So before you today, we do have resolution

1069
00:52:10.185 --> 00:52:14.805
2025 dash zero two travel expense reimbursement policy

1070
00:52:14.865 --> 00:52:16.725
for architectural Review Committee volunteers

1071
00:52:17.715 --> 00:52:20.085
back on July 12th, 2024.

1072
00:52:20.425 --> 00:52:23.405
The district board at your meeting did authorize staff

1073
00:52:23.425 --> 00:52:26.245
to create a policy for the reimbursement of travel expenses

1074
00:52:27.225 --> 00:52:29.685
for your district one architectural

1075
00:52:29.685 --> 00:52:30.765
review Committee members.

1076
00:52:32.255 --> 00:52:34.765
Scope of this policy would apply only to your

1077
00:52:35.315 --> 00:52:37.885
volunteer members and no other district, um,

1078
00:52:37.885 --> 00:52:38.965
architectural review members.

1079
00:52:39.825 --> 00:52:41.525
The reimbursement will be calculated

1080
00:52:41.625 --> 00:52:43.205
by district staff in accordance

1081
00:52:43.205 --> 00:52:46.525
with Florida statute 1 1 12 dash 0 6 1, which is 44

1082
00:52:46.525 --> 00:52:47.605
and a half cents on the mile.

1083
00:52:48.145 --> 00:52:50.125
And that distance will be calculated

1084
00:52:50.145 --> 00:52:53.645
by staff from the volunteer's home to the meeting

1085
00:52:53.865 --> 00:52:55.485
and then back to their residence.

1086
00:52:57.115 --> 00:52:59.925
This will be, budget impact is based on the miles from the

1087
00:52:59.925 --> 00:53:02.125
volunteer's primary residence to the meeting location

1088
00:53:02.225 --> 00:53:03.405
for a 52 week period.

1089
00:53:04.865 --> 00:53:06.325
And it is staff's recommendation

1090
00:53:06.325 --> 00:53:09.685
that the board approve resolution 2025 dash zero two

1091
00:53:09.685 --> 00:53:11.045
for the reimbursement of travel expenses

1092
00:53:11.145 --> 00:53:12.525
for a village community development

1093
00:53:12.685 --> 00:53:13.725
district number one volunteers.

1094
00:53:14.225 --> 00:53:15.885
And I'm here to answer any questions you may have.

1095
00:53:17.385 --> 00:53:20.805
Um, just for the, uh, information for the people

1096
00:53:20.805 --> 00:53:24.805
that are still here, uh, the Architectural Review Committee,

1097
00:53:25.245 --> 00:53:27.165
I believe is going to be moving to Brownwood.

1098
00:53:27.785 --> 00:53:31.685
So therefore there is quite a, a greater distance to drive

1099
00:53:31.905 --> 00:53:33.005
to get to the meetings.

1100
00:53:35.265 --> 00:53:36.925
And We questions. We discussed

1101
00:53:36.925 --> 00:53:38.285
This last month

1102
00:53:39.105 --> 00:53:43.285
and I'm, I'm in favor of proving this resolution.

1103
00:53:44.665 --> 00:53:45.665
Aye.

1104
00:53:46.505 --> 00:53:49.405
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you board.

1105
00:53:54.105 --> 00:53:56.605
And the next item on new business is award

1106
00:53:56.665 --> 00:54:00.325
of RFP 24 P dash zero thirty eight on call services

1107
00:54:00.505 --> 00:54:04.205
for geological anomalies in Stormwater Systems by Ms.

1108
00:54:04.405 --> 00:54:06.685
Shar. Thank you Ms. Duckett.

1109
00:54:06.745 --> 00:54:09.565
Uh, good morning board, Melissa Shar, purchasing.

1110
00:54:09.945 --> 00:54:13.125
Yes, I'm requesting approval of awards to four contractors.

1111
00:54:13.275 --> 00:54:16.845
Request for proposal 24 p dash zero three eight

1112
00:54:17.225 --> 00:54:18.405
for on-call services

1113
00:54:18.705 --> 00:54:21.085
for geological anomalies in stormwater systems.

1114
00:54:21.505 --> 00:54:23.965
Uh, the intent of this RFP was to establish agreements

1115
00:54:23.965 --> 00:54:27.165
with multiple contractors to provide on demand as needed,

1116
00:54:27.165 --> 00:54:30.365
stormwater service project, uh, projects

1117
00:54:30.365 --> 00:54:33.885
and repairs such as complete, uh, ground depression

1118
00:54:33.885 --> 00:54:38.805
or erosion work, including excavation, uh, filling

1119
00:54:39.065 --> 00:54:41.205
and compacting, a depression or eroded area,

1120
00:54:41.425 --> 00:54:44.685
and Remi remediating naturally occurring

1121
00:54:44.685 --> 00:54:45.925
geological anomalies.

1122
00:54:46.425 --> 00:54:50.005
On August 15th, staff issued the RFP and four responsive

1123
00:54:50.005 --> 00:54:52.005
and responsible proposals were received

1124
00:54:52.345 --> 00:54:54.485
and presented to the selection committee for review.

1125
00:54:54.745 --> 00:54:57.125
The selection committee met on September 30th

1126
00:54:57.585 --> 00:55:01.125
to score all respondents selection committee considers the

1127
00:55:01.125 --> 00:55:03.765
respondent's experience, references, qualifications

1128
00:55:03.765 --> 00:55:06.445
of manpower, machinery and equipment cost,

1129
00:55:06.465 --> 00:55:09.005
and the thoroughness of their overall repo proposal.

1130
00:55:09.505 --> 00:55:11.445
The RFP allowed for multiple contractors

1131
00:55:11.545 --> 00:55:14.685
to be awarded agreements based on the selection committee

1132
00:55:14.705 --> 00:55:17.485
scores and rankings, as well as the district's need

1133
00:55:17.485 --> 00:55:19.605
of having access to multiple contractors.

1134
00:55:20.095 --> 00:55:21.965
Staff is requesting approval of awards

1135
00:55:22.025 --> 00:55:26.085
for RFP 24 p dash zero three eight oncall services

1136
00:55:26.145 --> 00:55:28.005
for Geo Geological anomalies

1137
00:55:28.145 --> 00:55:31.365
and stormwater systems to hardscapes of Central Florida

1138
00:55:32.125 --> 00:55:35.965
a SG solutions, L-L-C-L-L-C, excuse me,

1139
00:55:36.365 --> 00:55:39.565
Dale Beasley, construction Company, LLC

1140
00:55:40.025 --> 00:55:43.165
and a SP Underground Solutions Incorporated for

1141
00:55:43.165 --> 00:55:46.445
as needed services as at the unit pricing

1142
00:55:46.665 --> 00:55:49.885
as shown in Exhibit A of their agreement, if approved,

1143
00:55:49.945 --> 00:55:51.205
the initial term of the,

1144
00:55:51.865 --> 00:55:53.805
of each agreement shall be effective today

1145
00:55:53.805 --> 00:55:58.485
through September 30th, 2020, um, of 2027

1146
00:55:58.915 --> 00:56:01.525
with the option to renew for one two year period.

1147
00:56:01.985 --> 00:56:03.525
And pricing will remain fixed

1148
00:56:03.525 --> 00:56:07.085
and firm for the initial term with no increase exceeding 5%.

1149
00:56:07.105 --> 00:56:08.645
And I'm here as well as staff if you have any

1150
00:56:08.805 --> 00:56:09.845
questions on these agreements.

1151
00:56:10.885 --> 00:56:12.005
I do. Yes ma'am.

1152
00:56:12.145 --> 00:56:15.565
I'd like to know what geological anoma anomalies

1153
00:56:15.945 --> 00:56:18.925
and stormwater systems, how you're defining

1154
00:56:18.925 --> 00:56:21.765
that ask.

1155
00:56:21.765 --> 00:56:23.605
Is that going to cover this lady's problem

1156
00:56:23.635 --> 00:56:25.045
with her hole in her yard?

1157
00:56:25.785 --> 00:56:28.365
Is that a geological anomaly

1158
00:56:28.825 --> 00:56:32.885
or is this only on village property or what?

1159
00:56:33.305 --> 00:56:36.525
So this would be a geological anomalies, um,

1160
00:56:36.775 --> 00:56:39.685
could be a depression, they could be a sinkhole.

1161
00:56:40.145 --> 00:56:43.405
Um, any type of void that we have to go

1162
00:56:43.405 --> 00:56:46.525
and look at on district one property when it comes

1163
00:56:46.625 --> 00:56:49.525
to whether or not it would be funded by district one,

1164
00:56:50.105 --> 00:56:52.885
if it is, um, for example, a collapse

1165
00:56:52.885 --> 00:56:56.125
of your stormwater management system, that would be

1166
00:56:57.285 --> 00:56:59.285
district one's responsibility for paying for it.

1167
00:56:59.705 --> 00:57:02.805
If it was however, an issue with the utility such

1168
00:57:02.805 --> 00:57:04.165
as in this issue, then the

1169
00:57:04.165 --> 00:57:05.725
utilities would have to pay for it.

1170
00:57:06.265 --> 00:57:08.765
So it's hard to say blanket what it would be.

1171
00:57:09.385 --> 00:57:13.885
Um, not every geological anami, some of them are

1172
00:57:14.505 --> 00:57:17.845
in just mother nature, some of them are caused by

1173
00:57:18.375 --> 00:57:20.445
stormwater pipe brakes.

1174
00:57:20.445 --> 00:57:23.045
Some of them are caused by utility pipe brakes.

1175
00:57:23.465 --> 00:57:25.485
Um, but generally speaking, it's any type

1176
00:57:25.485 --> 00:57:27.365
of a void in the ground.

1177
00:57:27.745 --> 00:57:30.445
And then depending on what caused it is whether

1178
00:57:30.445 --> 00:57:33.405
or not you would be responsible under this contract to, um,

1179
00:57:33.425 --> 00:57:35.845
repair it or whether or not it would be a utility

1180
00:57:38.725 --> 00:57:39.725
Question.

1181
00:57:39.785 --> 00:57:41.125
How large is this company?

1182
00:57:43.105 --> 00:57:44.125
How large is the company?

1183
00:57:44.425 --> 00:57:46.165
How large are there four companies?

1184
00:57:46.865 --> 00:57:48.685
I'm not concerned about the small thing

1185
00:57:48.715 --> 00:57:50.485
that Harry just mentioned.

1186
00:57:50.625 --> 00:57:54.485
I'm concerned if you really got some major breaks someplace.

1187
00:57:55.025 --> 00:57:56.725
You know, bill, I don't think she can hear you.

1188
00:57:56.725 --> 00:58:00.005
Your mic not close enough. How's that?

1189
00:58:01.985 --> 00:58:05.965
Try it again. How is that? Yes, better.

1190
00:58:07.505 --> 00:58:09.645
Um, I, so as, as far as Go ahead.

1191
00:58:09.825 --> 00:58:12.245
No, I was just making sure you heard his questions.

1192
00:58:12.345 --> 00:58:15.485
So you're concerned that these companies would be able

1193
00:58:15.485 --> 00:58:17.725
to manage a large project if we had one?

1194
00:58:18.355 --> 00:58:20.925
It'd have to be pretty good size if you had a real break.

1195
00:58:21.265 --> 00:58:23.405
Um, all of that was considered when I

1196
00:58:23.405 --> 00:58:24.485
went through the RFP.

1197
00:58:24.785 --> 00:58:26.125
As you're, as you're aware,

1198
00:58:26.385 --> 00:58:28.965
the RFP is not solely based on price,

1199
00:58:29.105 --> 00:58:31.885
it is on their qualifications, um,

1200
00:58:31.905 --> 00:58:33.845
and the experience of the company.

1201
00:58:34.345 --> 00:58:37.245
And I believe, um, they have also done work

1202
00:58:37.265 --> 00:58:39.765
for us here in the villages previously.

1203
00:58:40.275 --> 00:58:44.365
Fine question Ellen.

1204
00:58:45.945 --> 00:58:50.325
Um, no. Okay. Then I can entertain a motion.

1205
00:58:51.145 --> 00:58:53.445
Is there any, is there anyone in the audience

1206
00:58:53.445 --> 00:58:56.005
that would like to put, have something to say?

1207
00:58:57.675 --> 00:58:59.165
Okay, then I'll entertain a motion

1208
00:58:59.675 --> 00:59:03.565
Move for I don't have all the information here.

1209
00:59:06.155 --> 00:59:08.925
Well, I don't either. So you could a motion, you could,

1210
00:59:09.265 --> 00:59:10.845
um, have a motion

1211
00:59:11.345 --> 00:59:16.045
to award RFP 24 P zero three eight on-call services

1212
00:59:16.145 --> 00:59:17.525
for geological anomalies

1213
00:59:17.525 --> 00:59:19.645
and stormwater systems as presented.

1214
00:59:20.095 --> 00:59:21.805
Right. Okay. Second.

1215
00:59:23.585 --> 00:59:27.245
Second in favor? Yes. Yes.

1216
00:59:29.665 --> 00:59:33.605
So, Ms. Uh, supervisor Cora, did you make that motion? Yes.

1217
00:59:33.785 --> 00:59:35.565
And then Supervisor Gen S seconded it.

1218
00:59:40.305 --> 00:59:43.845
All in favor? All in favor. Aye. Aye. Thank you.

1219
00:59:44.275 --> 00:59:44.925
Okay, thank you.

1220
00:59:51.185 --> 00:59:54.125
At this time we are going to be having a public hearing.

1221
00:59:55.945 --> 00:59:58.245
Yes ma'am. We only have one today.

1222
00:59:58.505 --> 01:00:01.805
Um, the first one on your agenda has been pulled.

1223
01:00:02.345 --> 01:00:06.765
So Mr. Armstrong will present case number D one dash zero

1224
01:00:07.025 --> 01:00:10.845
two dash 25 Village Community Development District number

1225
01:00:10.945 --> 01:00:14.405
one versus Karen Lewis at 1713 Carrera Drive.

1226
01:00:14.815 --> 01:00:17.885
After Mr. Brianis goes through a public hearing

1227
01:00:18.205 --> 01:00:19.205
Overview. Yes.

1228
01:00:19.205 --> 01:00:21.805
Just quickly the public hearing overview for, uh,

1229
01:00:21.805 --> 01:00:23.445
the board as well as the audience.

1230
01:00:23.585 --> 01:00:25.165
Uh, in public hearings, the board acts

1231
01:00:25.185 --> 01:00:26.405
as both the judge and jury.

1232
01:00:26.545 --> 01:00:28.605
In that capacity, the board will consider evidence,

1233
01:00:28.875 --> 01:00:31.005
make findings of fact, and draw conclusions of law.

1234
01:00:31.305 --> 01:00:33.925
During the hearing, the board may only receive evidence from

1235
01:00:34.065 --> 01:00:35.925
the property owner, district staff,

1236
01:00:35.925 --> 01:00:37.245
and those that will be substantially

1237
01:00:37.245 --> 01:00:38.405
and directly affected by the

1238
01:00:38.405 --> 01:00:39.525
outcome of the board's decision.

1239
01:00:40.265 --> 01:00:42.165
The board is required to limit testimony

1240
01:00:42.185 --> 01:00:44.405
to relevant evidence as it relates to the matter

1241
01:00:44.405 --> 01:00:46.765
before it at the completion of the public hearing.

1242
01:00:46.785 --> 01:00:49.205
If the board determines that staff did present substantial

1243
01:00:49.405 --> 01:00:50.645
competent evidence to support a finding

1244
01:00:50.645 --> 01:00:52.965
of the alleged violation, then the board must enter an order

1245
01:00:53.205 --> 01:00:55.445
of enforcement against the property owner.

1246
01:00:55.545 --> 01:00:57.445
If there's anyone here who will be testifying,

1247
01:00:57.445 --> 01:00:59.005
if you please stand and raise your right hand.

1248
01:01:00.785 --> 01:01:03.925
You swear Affirm evidence testimony. You please,

1249
01:01:04.705 --> 01:01:06.085
Please, yes. Thank you.

1250
01:01:06.465 --> 01:01:07.645
You can now open the public hearing.

1251
01:01:10.005 --> 01:01:11.325
I now open the public hearing.

1252
01:01:12.775 --> 01:01:13.565
Hello Board Bat

1253
01:01:13.565 --> 01:01:15.125
Armstrong, director of Community Standards.

1254
01:01:15.345 --> 01:01:18.725
So before you today, we do have case number D 1 0 2 2 5

1255
01:01:18.725 --> 01:01:20.925
Village Community Development District number one versus

1256
01:01:20.975 --> 01:01:24.565
Karen Lewis of 1 7 1 3 Carrera Drive, unit five,

1257
01:01:24.585 --> 01:01:26.805
lot seven violation of the district's rule

1258
01:01:26.805 --> 01:01:27.925
to bring about Decompliance

1259
01:01:27.925 --> 01:01:29.005
and specifically the rule

1260
01:01:29.005 --> 01:01:31.205
that states shall be the responsibility of the owners

1261
01:01:31.665 --> 01:01:32.725
to keep their lot neat

1262
01:01:32.725 --> 01:01:34.485
and clean in the grass cutting edge at all times.

1263
01:01:35.065 --> 01:01:37.285
The lot owner shall have the obligation to mow

1264
01:01:37.285 --> 01:01:39.485
and maintain all areas up to the street pavement.

1265
01:01:39.785 --> 01:01:42.005
If an owner does not adhere to this regulation,

1266
01:01:42.005 --> 01:01:44.725
then the work may be performed on behalf of, of the owner

1267
01:01:44.725 --> 01:01:46.725
and the cost shall be charged to the owner

1268
01:01:47.345 --> 01:01:48.365
as found in the village.

1269
01:01:48.365 --> 01:01:49.845
Community Development District number one,

1270
01:01:50.045 --> 01:01:51.965
external de restriction standards Maintenance.

1271
01:01:51.965 --> 01:01:54.565
Maintenance shall mean the exercise of reasonable care

1272
01:01:54.585 --> 01:01:57.405
to keep buildings, landscaping, lighting lawns,

1273
01:01:57.405 --> 01:01:58.645
and other related improvements

1274
01:01:58.645 --> 01:02:00.045
and fixtures in good condition.

1275
01:02:00.195 --> 01:02:03.005
Maintenance of landscaping is defined as the exercise

1276
01:02:03.005 --> 01:02:06.205
of generally accepted guard garden management practices

1277
01:02:06.205 --> 01:02:10.005
necessary to promote a healthy we free environment

1278
01:02:10.005 --> 01:02:13.845
for optimum plant growth background on

1279
01:02:13.865 --> 01:02:16.085
May 10th, 2024, this property did come

1280
01:02:16.085 --> 01:02:17.885
before you in a public hearing in which

1281
01:02:18.425 --> 01:02:19.965
the owners were found in violation.

1282
01:02:20.345 --> 01:02:22.925
The property was brought into compliance on May 17th.

1283
01:02:23.015 --> 01:02:24.685
Prior to any fines being issued.

1284
01:02:25.625 --> 01:02:28.925
On August 21st, 2024, a complaint was received

1285
01:02:28.925 --> 01:02:30.645
regarding overgrown grass and weeds.

1286
01:02:31.015 --> 01:02:33.525
Since this was a reoccurring violation offense,

1287
01:02:33.525 --> 01:02:35.525
the owner was immediately given a notice of public hearing

1288
01:02:35.555 --> 01:02:38.125
that was sent by regular mail at certified mail on

1289
01:02:38.245 --> 01:02:39.685
September 16th, 2024.

1290
01:02:40.385 --> 01:02:42.445
The term reoccurring violation means a violation

1291
01:02:42.445 --> 01:02:44.085
of a provision of a rule by an owner

1292
01:02:44.185 --> 01:02:45.805
who has been previously notified

1293
01:02:46.105 --> 01:02:47.565
to have violated the same provision

1294
01:02:47.565 --> 01:02:50.565
of the rule within 12 months prior to the current violation.

1295
01:02:50.565 --> 01:02:51.565
Notwithstanding the

1296
01:02:51.565 --> 01:02:52.965
violation occurred at a different location.

1297
01:02:53.505 --> 01:02:55.725
The Community Standards Department staffs receives a

1298
01:02:55.805 --> 01:02:57.685
complaint regarding a reoccurring violation.

1299
01:02:57.685 --> 01:02:59.925
Staff is not required to give beyond a reasonable time

1300
01:02:59.945 --> 01:03:01.245
to correct the violation.

1301
01:03:01.415 --> 01:03:04.485
Staff shall follow the procedures of compliance, uh,

1302
01:03:04.485 --> 01:03:08.045
which is we would skip, um, the noticing factors

1303
01:03:08.075 --> 01:03:09.725
with all the letters with the first second letter.

1304
01:03:09.725 --> 01:03:11.445
This will just go straight to the public hearing letter.

1305
01:03:12.295 --> 01:03:14.525
Staff has been unable to reach the homeowner.

1306
01:03:14.545 --> 01:03:15.965
The voicemail box is full.

1307
01:03:15.975 --> 01:03:19.205
There was no response to the emails that were sent

1308
01:03:19.225 --> 01:03:21.485
and there was no emergency contacts listed on file.

1309
01:03:21.825 --> 01:03:24.925
During a recent inspection on October 8th, it was determined

1310
01:03:24.925 --> 01:03:26.725
that property is currently out of compliance.

1311
01:03:27.865 --> 01:03:30.565
It is staff's recommendation to find the owner in violation

1312
01:03:30.565 --> 01:03:32.125
of the district's decompliance rule

1313
01:03:32.305 --> 01:03:33.565
as cited by the decompliance.

1314
01:03:33.565 --> 01:03:35.605
Staff find the owner to be in violation

1315
01:03:35.605 --> 01:03:39.045
of the reoccurring violation policy as listed in Appendix B.

1316
01:03:39.285 --> 01:03:41.205
Procedures of compliance of external de restrictions

1317
01:03:41.205 --> 01:03:43.285
and schedule for fines for the village.

1318
01:03:43.285 --> 01:03:46.165
Community development District number one properties is

1319
01:03:46.165 --> 01:03:47.165
currently out of compliance.

1320
01:03:47.165 --> 01:03:48.965
So the owner has seven days to mow the grass

1321
01:03:48.985 --> 01:03:50.445
and remove the weeds from the property.

1322
01:03:51.065 --> 01:03:53.325
The grass is not mowed and the weeds are not removed,

1323
01:03:53.325 --> 01:03:55.525
and the property is not brought into compliance within seven

1324
01:03:55.525 --> 01:03:56.725
days of the order of enforcement.

1325
01:03:56.725 --> 01:03:58.805
Authorize the district to maintain the property

1326
01:03:58.805 --> 01:04:00.885
and impose a minimum $250 fine,

1327
01:04:01.225 --> 01:04:03.565
or the actual cost of maintenance, whichever is more

1328
01:04:03.565 --> 01:04:05.205
to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

1329
01:04:05.635 --> 01:04:06.725
Authorize the district

1330
01:04:06.725 --> 01:04:08.725
to maintain the property twice a month in the summer

1331
01:04:08.785 --> 01:04:10.605
and once a month in the winter as needed,

1332
01:04:10.625 --> 01:04:12.925
and impose a $250 fine each time the

1333
01:04:13.085 --> 01:04:14.165
district maintains the property.

1334
01:04:14.625 --> 01:04:16.045
The owners prohibit the district

1335
01:04:16.045 --> 01:04:17.205
from maintaining the property.

1336
01:04:17.205 --> 01:04:20.245
Then the orders, the owners shall be fined in an additional

1337
01:04:20.245 --> 01:04:21.805
amount of $150

1338
01:04:22.105 --> 01:04:23.885
and an additional $50 daily fine

1339
01:04:23.885 --> 01:04:25.285
until the property is brought into compliance.

1340
01:04:25.785 --> 01:04:27.605
It is the owner's response of responsibility

1341
01:04:27.605 --> 01:04:29.525
to contact community standards department

1342
01:04:29.525 --> 01:04:31.685
to request a decompliance officer revisit the

1343
01:04:31.845 --> 01:04:32.925
property to confirm compliance.

1344
01:04:33.505 --> 01:04:36.165
The owner violates this viola same provision

1345
01:04:36.165 --> 01:04:38.245
of the rule within 12 months of today's date,

1346
01:04:38.245 --> 01:04:39.805
October 11th, 2024.

1347
01:04:39.805 --> 01:04:42.245
The violation shall be considered a repeat violation.

1348
01:04:42.695 --> 01:04:45.045
Staff is not required to give the owner reasonable time

1349
01:04:45.045 --> 01:04:46.365
to correct the violation.

1350
01:04:46.775 --> 01:04:48.485
Staff shall present the case to the Board

1351
01:04:48.485 --> 01:04:51.365
of supervisors even if repeat violation has been corrected

1352
01:04:51.415 --> 01:04:52.525
prior to the public hearing.

1353
01:04:52.945 --> 01:04:54.005
And the notice shall so.

1354
01:04:54.005 --> 01:04:56.765
State owners who have been found

1355
01:04:56.945 --> 01:05:00.085
to have repeat violations may be fined up to $500

1356
01:05:00.225 --> 01:05:01.325
and the Board of Super

1357
01:05:01.585 --> 01:05:04.925
and the Board of supervisors may impose a $500 daily fine.

1358
01:05:04.925 --> 01:05:06.525
Until the property is brought into compliance,

1359
01:05:07.025 --> 01:05:08.205
the property is not brought into

1360
01:05:08.205 --> 01:05:09.485
compliance as required herein.

1361
01:05:09.485 --> 01:05:11.405
Staff shall record the Order of Enforcement claim

1362
01:05:11.405 --> 01:05:13.405
of lien in the public record of Sumter County, Florida.

1363
01:05:13.985 --> 01:05:15.325
The fines reached $1,500.

1364
01:05:15.345 --> 01:05:17.005
The case shall be turned over to district counsel

1365
01:05:17.145 --> 01:05:18.485
to seek all available remedies,

1366
01:05:18.485 --> 01:05:20.405
which may include the initiating a lawsuit

1367
01:05:20.505 --> 01:05:22.245
and seeking an injunction against the owner.

1368
01:05:22.545 --> 01:05:24.645
The owner is responsible for reimbursing the district

1369
01:05:24.645 --> 01:05:27.165
for all attorney's fees, costs, and expenses associated with

1370
01:05:27.165 --> 01:05:29.365
or related to this order enforcement claim of lien.

1371
01:05:29.665 --> 01:05:30.725
The properties brought into

1372
01:05:30.725 --> 01:05:31.845
compliance and all fines are paid.

1373
01:05:32.005 --> 01:05:33.445
Chairman authorized this staff to execute

1374
01:05:33.445 --> 01:05:35.165
and record a satisfaction release claim

1375
01:05:35.325 --> 01:05:38.085
of lien Chairman shall execute the order of enforcement.

1376
01:05:38.545 --> 01:05:40.645
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

1377
01:05:43.945 --> 01:05:45.805
Is there someone actually living in that house?

1378
01:05:46.625 --> 01:05:47.925
Not that we're aware of, no ma'am.

1379
01:05:48.865 --> 01:05:50.645
Mr. Frank, in other words, no.

1380
01:05:50.795 --> 01:05:52.405
Correct. With our previous, um,

1381
01:05:52.495 --> 01:05:55.565
board at previous public hearing, uh, we were not able

1382
01:05:55.565 --> 01:05:57.125
to find the homeowner and someone actually came

1383
01:05:57.125 --> 01:05:58.165
to us afterwards and

1384
01:05:58.445 --> 01:05:59.925
provided a, a secondary number

1385
01:05:59.955 --> 01:06:01.805
that they had for the individual.

1386
01:06:01.905 --> 01:06:03.525
We tried contacting that number

1387
01:06:04.145 --> 01:06:06.565
and it says that mailbox is full.

1388
01:06:06.565 --> 01:06:09.285
It's not accepting any more messages at this time,

1389
01:06:09.585 --> 01:06:11.725
and the emails that we do have on file

1390
01:06:11.745 --> 01:06:13.005
are, are going unanswered.

1391
01:06:13.745 --> 01:06:14.745
So we're trying,

1392
01:06:18.595 --> 01:06:22.085
Well, with This current condition of the lawn,

1393
01:06:22.805 --> 01:06:24.045
I mean it needs mowing,

1394
01:06:24.065 --> 01:06:26.485
but it's certainly not as bad as it was

1395
01:06:27.155 --> 01:06:28.645
back when it was terrible.

1396
01:06:29.865 --> 01:06:32.365
But still, they are at compliance.

1397
01:06:32.795 --> 01:06:33.285
Correct.

1398
01:06:37.225 --> 01:06:38.685
No response at all. Right.

1399
01:06:38.985 --> 01:06:43.045
No response today. Well

1400
01:06:43.905 --> 01:06:44.905
Motion.

1401
01:06:47.265 --> 01:06:48.645
Is there anyone in the audience

1402
01:06:48.715 --> 01:06:51.045
that represents the family?

1403
01:06:52.275 --> 01:06:57.085
This property? As I look at the pictures, I, I,

1404
01:06:58.115 --> 01:06:59.565
there's only one way you can go.

1405
01:06:59.565 --> 01:07:01.245
They're definitely outta compliance.

1406
01:07:01.565 --> 01:07:04.685
I call for a consensus or vote on that. Let's, uh,

1407
01:07:04.685 --> 01:07:07.045
Close a public hearing and then, um,

1408
01:07:07.295 --> 01:07:09.485
after you close the public hearing, we just need a motion

1409
01:07:09.485 --> 01:07:10.845
to accept staff's recommendation.

1410
01:07:11.675 --> 01:07:13.085
Okay. I'd like to close the public

1411
01:07:13.085 --> 01:07:14.365
hearing at this point. Please.

1412
01:07:14.785 --> 01:07:15.965
Second up, David.

1413
01:07:18.225 --> 01:07:20.965
So now just a motion to accept staff's recommendation.

1414
01:07:22.115 --> 01:07:23.445
Make a motion to accept. Motion to

1415
01:07:23.445 --> 01:07:25.045
Accept staff's recommendation.

1416
01:07:25.465 --> 01:07:27.525
Second In favor,

1417
01:07:28.425 --> 01:07:29.425
Aye. Aye.

1418
01:07:29.425 --> 01:07:29.665

1419
01:07:31.455 --> 01:07:34.045
Thank you board. Thank you.

1420
01:07:36.905 --> 01:07:39.485
Oh, good. I think we're up to old business. Yes, ma'am.

1421
01:07:39.485 --> 01:07:42.125
We are. The first item on old business was

1422
01:07:42.145 --> 01:07:45.525
to provide a listing of plants to be utilized on islands.

1423
01:07:46.185 --> 01:07:49.885
We did send information in an email on October 4th,

1424
01:07:49.895 --> 01:07:51.965
which was also attached to this agenda

1425
01:07:52.025 --> 01:07:53.485
for the benefit of the audience.

1426
01:07:53.905 --> 01:07:56.445
And we're happy to answer any questions you may have on that

1427
01:07:56.865 --> 01:07:59.525
or wait until Supervisor Porter is in attendance.

1428
01:08:01.065 --> 01:08:03.365
Um, well this is a subject near

1429
01:08:03.365 --> 01:08:05.205
and dear to her heart, so I'd like

1430
01:08:05.205 --> 01:08:06.325
to wait until she gets back.

1431
01:08:06.665 --> 01:08:09.365
Agreed. Okay. But I must tell you, I hate pot carpets.

1432
01:08:10.045 --> 01:08:11.685
I don't know why you'd plant that stuff

1433
01:08:11.685 --> 01:08:16.565
because they take constant, uh, pruning to keep it in shape.

1434
01:08:16.785 --> 01:08:20.165
So here you are trying to go with, you know,

1435
01:08:20.465 --> 01:08:22.365
you keep your costs down for maintenance

1436
01:08:22.385 --> 01:08:23.925
and you put a pot of carpet in.

1437
01:08:27.225 --> 01:08:28.565
If you put 'em in my island,

1438
01:08:28.845 --> 01:08:30.405
I think they'd probably disappear overnight.

1439
01:08:30.665 --> 01:08:32.765
Mm-hmm. Well, um,

1440
01:08:32.945 --> 01:08:35.525
we will certainly let district property management know

1441
01:08:35.525 --> 01:08:38.245
that is not a p of choice in district one,

1442
01:08:38.305 --> 01:08:40.085
and if possible, find an alternative.

1443
01:08:40.175 --> 01:08:41.405
Thank you. Thank you.

1444
01:08:41.505 --> 01:08:44.085
Um, Anna, um, Jennifer,

1445
01:08:44.185 --> 01:08:46.245
can we please keep this on the agenda

1446
01:08:46.265 --> 01:08:47.285
for next month as well?

1447
01:08:48.265 --> 01:08:51.245
The second item, um, we've pretty much already discussed

1448
01:08:51.245 --> 01:08:52.245
that it was an update

1449
01:08:52.245 --> 01:08:53.925
regarding the line replacement program.

1450
01:08:54.575 --> 01:08:56.525
Those emails, again, were attached.

1451
01:08:56.905 --> 01:08:59.725
Um, and it, we will follow up with the utility.

1452
01:09:00.265 --> 01:09:02.365
Uh, Mr. Brown will be at village center

1453
01:09:02.505 --> 01:09:04.125
and will be addressing it there as well.

1454
01:09:04.595 --> 01:09:07.685
Okay. The third item was concern about lack

1455
01:09:07.685 --> 01:09:08.925
of flowers in a median.

1456
01:09:09.385 --> 01:09:11.325
Um, DPM did go out

1457
01:09:11.325 --> 01:09:14.525
and verify that the amount of flowers in the median, um,

1458
01:09:14.715 --> 01:09:17.925
were installed per the landscape as built, which is

1459
01:09:17.925 --> 01:09:19.525
what it has previously been.

1460
01:09:21.075 --> 01:09:23.285
Okay. I missed that discussion, but, okay.

1461
01:09:24.785 --> 01:09:27.845
And then finally, um, this wasn't really, um,

1462
01:09:28.345 --> 01:09:30.565
it wasn't at all a district one issue,

1463
01:09:30.585 --> 01:09:33.085
but there were some comments at the end of the meeting

1464
01:09:33.115 --> 01:09:35.885
regarding the responsiveness to Jacobs.

1465
01:09:36.145 --> 01:09:38.605
Um, I believe, um, Mr.

1466
01:09:39.165 --> 01:09:42.205
Chairman as well as Supervisor Porter had some concerns

1467
01:09:42.275 --> 01:09:45.325
that, um, specifically interactions that they had had,

1468
01:09:45.505 --> 01:09:47.325
and we just wanted to notify the board

1469
01:09:47.325 --> 01:09:50.125
that Mr. Brown did reach out to them both directly

1470
01:09:50.145 --> 01:09:53.405
to make sure, um, that all of their, um, issues

1471
01:09:53.465 --> 01:09:56.885
or concerns that they had with Jacobs were, um, rectified.

1472
01:09:57.185 --> 01:09:59.565
So again, not really a district one issue,

1473
01:09:59.565 --> 01:10:01.085
but we wanted to make sure that, you know, that

1474
01:10:01.085 --> 01:10:03.245
that had been handled well.

1475
01:10:03.305 --> 01:10:04.405
It also sounds to me

1476
01:10:04.405 --> 01:10:07.325
that this couple is still having an issue with Jacobs also.

1477
01:10:07.425 --> 01:10:09.965
So some of it isn't Jacobs,

1478
01:10:10.025 --> 01:10:13.485
but yes, Mr. Brown will, will make sure that yeah,

1479
01:10:13.515 --> 01:10:17.205
that everything and, um, they are welcome to talk

1480
01:10:17.205 --> 01:10:18.525
with him after the meeting.

1481
01:10:18.985 --> 01:10:20.165
Um, and he can give them a little

1482
01:10:20.165 --> 01:10:21.205
bit more information as well.

1483
01:10:21.395 --> 01:10:25.325
Okay. I, I would find it very frustrating to,

1484
01:10:26.745 --> 01:10:29.005
to have a, uh, something repaired

1485
01:10:29.005 --> 01:10:31.605
and you just can't get it repaired or understood.

1486
01:10:32.195 --> 01:10:35.885
Okay. Anything else? No, ma'am. That concludes old business.

1487
01:10:37.145 --> 01:10:39.405
Any any questions about the informational only

1488
01:10:39.405 --> 01:10:42.045
that we're in your mental No.

1489
01:10:43.485 --> 01:10:45.845
District manager reports then? Yes, ma'am.

1490
01:10:45.905 --> 01:10:48.285
Um, I do not have an amenity authority

1491
01:10:48.285 --> 01:10:49.405
committee after agenda.

1492
01:10:49.665 --> 01:10:53.845
We did have to, um, postpone the A A C due

1493
01:10:53.865 --> 01:10:55.165
to Hurricane Milton.

1494
01:10:55.185 --> 01:10:57.765
So that will take place next Wednesday

1495
01:10:57.765 --> 01:10:58.965
here at Savannah Center.

1496
01:10:59.065 --> 01:11:01.165
So if you typically attend that, uh,

1497
01:11:01.165 --> 01:11:02.485
we will see you next week.

1498
01:11:02.625 --> 01:11:05.085
And I'll provide an update to the board the following month.

1499
01:11:06.585 --> 01:11:08.965
The post-storm review, this was intended

1500
01:11:09.025 --> 01:11:11.565
to be a post-storm review on Helene,

1501
01:11:11.745 --> 01:11:14.005
but now I, I'm going to jump ahead

1502
01:11:14.005 --> 01:11:15.925
and do a post-storm review on Milton.

1503
01:11:16.425 --> 01:11:20.005
Um, we are still in the middle of our damage assessments

1504
01:11:20.465 --> 01:11:23.845
and what that means is district property management is going

1505
01:11:24.365 --> 01:11:27.525
facility by facility, landscape area by landscape area

1506
01:11:27.665 --> 01:11:28.965
to assess the damage

1507
01:11:29.505 --> 01:11:31.525
and then start, um, working

1508
01:11:31.605 --> 01:11:34.325
where needed from the most important working down.

1509
01:11:34.545 --> 01:11:38.005
So clearing trees outta roadways, multimodal paths,

1510
01:11:38.005 --> 01:11:40.245
that is certainly, um, priority for them

1511
01:11:40.245 --> 01:11:42.405
with the landscape con contractors.

1512
01:11:43.065 --> 01:11:45.325
Sumter County was working around the clock as well

1513
01:11:45.345 --> 01:11:46.805
for the Sumter County roadways.

1514
01:11:46.805 --> 01:11:49.525
So we've been working in, um, conjunction with them.

1515
01:11:51.745 --> 01:11:54.405
The rec centers for the most part are now open.

1516
01:11:54.905 --> 01:11:57.965
Um, you should have received an email from staff.

1517
01:11:58.185 --> 01:12:02.005
Um, also if you are signed up to receive e notifications,

1518
01:12:02.065 --> 01:12:03.845
you've been getting them routinely as well.

1519
01:12:04.655 --> 01:12:07.005
We've tried to keep all of the boards updated as well

1520
01:12:07.005 --> 01:12:10.165
as the district website on a fairly regular basis.

1521
01:12:10.675 --> 01:12:13.165
Your email probably got inundated, especially

1522
01:12:13.165 --> 01:12:15.765
with Sumter County media releases going out.

1523
01:12:16.665 --> 01:12:18.565
But right now, for the most part, all

1524
01:12:18.565 --> 01:12:21.445
of the indoor facilities are open, with the exception

1525
01:12:21.445 --> 01:12:23.005
of a handful that do not have power.

1526
01:12:23.305 --> 01:12:26.365
Um, the latest one that I saw, I believe Moyer is still out

1527
01:12:26.365 --> 01:12:29.525
of Power Paradise and there's a couple other ones.

1528
01:12:29.665 --> 01:12:32.205
So stay tuned to district cov.org.

1529
01:12:32.225 --> 01:12:34.525
That's really where we're posting all of our information

1530
01:12:34.625 --> 01:12:36.165
and then we're certainly sending it to you.

1531
01:12:36.995 --> 01:12:40.765
What we do need your help on is going to be when it comes

1532
01:12:40.865 --> 01:12:44.965
to the debris removal for those of you here during Irma,

1533
01:12:45.065 --> 01:12:46.645
and I wish that we still had a room

1534
01:12:46.645 --> 01:12:47.765
full of people to hear this.

1535
01:12:48.305 --> 01:12:50.525
Um, and I know all of you are here through Irma.

1536
01:12:51.395 --> 01:12:54.325
Anytime you engage debris, haulers

1537
01:12:54.325 --> 01:12:56.485
and monitors through fema, you have

1538
01:12:56.485 --> 01:12:58.485
to be very structured in what you do.

1539
01:12:59.025 --> 01:13:02.125
So right now we are in the process of moving all

1540
01:13:02.125 --> 01:13:04.125
of the debris to the road right of way,

1541
01:13:04.545 --> 01:13:07.205
and we are asking that residents remove all

1542
01:13:07.205 --> 01:13:10.245
of their storm debris to their road right of way as well,

1543
01:13:10.775 --> 01:13:13.365
which is typically a couple feet from the road

1544
01:13:13.675 --> 01:13:14.885
into their property.

1545
01:13:15.635 --> 01:13:18.485
That is where when the debris hauler comes,

1546
01:13:18.835 --> 01:13:21.045
they will collect all of the debris from.

1547
01:13:21.665 --> 01:13:24.565
And the reason why we go through this process is

1548
01:13:24.565 --> 01:13:26.525
because of the large volume of debris.

1549
01:13:26.815 --> 01:13:29.365
There is a, um, chance

1550
01:13:29.395 --> 01:13:32.405
that the districts will receive reimbursement from FEMA

1551
01:13:33.065 --> 01:13:35.125
for all of these storm related expenses,

1552
01:13:35.745 --> 01:13:38.005
but you have to be very particular in how you do it.

1553
01:13:38.005 --> 01:13:40.205
They require it be done in very specific ways.

1554
01:13:40.305 --> 01:13:42.045
We have to use certain contractors.

1555
01:13:42.665 --> 01:13:44.845
So staff is currently doing that right now.

1556
01:13:45.755 --> 01:13:47.565
Unfortunately, though it takes time.

1557
01:13:48.145 --> 01:13:51.845
Uh, the debris, as you know, with having two hurricanes back

1558
01:13:51.865 --> 01:13:54.205
to back that did not just impact Florida.

1559
01:13:54.465 --> 01:13:56.685
We had Helene, which Florida had damage,

1560
01:13:56.745 --> 01:13:59.125
but we had damage all the way up into the Carolinas.

1561
01:13:59.825 --> 01:14:02.525
Now we have Milton, which pretty much, um,

1562
01:14:03.285 --> 01:14:04.805
impacted the entire state of Florida.

1563
01:14:05.645 --> 01:14:08.205
Resources are going to be limited when it comes

1564
01:14:08.265 --> 01:14:10.085
to getting contractors to come in

1565
01:14:10.085 --> 01:14:12.245
and be able to haul off this debris.

1566
01:14:12.905 --> 01:14:16.405
So we're not talking typically in the villages it's days

1567
01:14:16.785 --> 01:14:18.605
and then it looks like nothing ever happened.

1568
01:14:19.115 --> 01:14:20.645
This is not going to be that case.

1569
01:14:20.755 --> 01:14:24.925
This is going to be weeks of having a stage debris

1570
01:14:25.025 --> 01:14:26.365
and all of the road right of ways

1571
01:14:26.635 --> 01:14:30.725
because when the debris hauler comes, it all has to be ready

1572
01:14:30.785 --> 01:14:32.325
for them so that they can come

1573
01:14:32.325 --> 01:14:35.205
and make one big sweep throughout the villages

1574
01:14:35.205 --> 01:14:36.405
and get it all the first time.

1575
01:14:36.955 --> 01:14:40.085
They will not come with all of the different areas

1576
01:14:40.155 --> 01:14:42.005
that are needing the same help.

1577
01:14:42.275 --> 01:14:44.765
They're not going to come back and forth as we get ready.

1578
01:14:45.345 --> 01:14:48.925
So we have been in, um, constant contact with them

1579
01:14:49.545 --> 01:14:50.605
and they are ready

1580
01:14:50.705 --> 01:14:53.805
to move into the villages when we are ready for them.

1581
01:14:54.145 --> 01:14:57.085
But I just don't want residents to think that this is going

1582
01:14:57.085 --> 01:14:58.805
to be a typical three day process.

1583
01:14:59.585 --> 01:15:02.165
If you remember Irma, uh, we had a lot of issues

1584
01:15:02.165 --> 01:15:03.205
of contractors leaving.

1585
01:15:03.465 --> 01:15:08.005
If they got a better deal down south, they just left middle

1586
01:15:08.005 --> 01:15:09.885
of the night, they just didn't come back the next day.

1587
01:15:10.295 --> 01:15:12.685
We're trying very hard to not have that happen

1588
01:15:13.225 --> 01:15:14.645
and have everything ready

1589
01:15:14.705 --> 01:15:16.685
for when the debris haulers come to get it.

1590
01:15:16.985 --> 01:15:19.885
Um, but any help that you can provide in

1591
01:15:20.645 --> 01:15:23.525
managing expectations of how long this is going to take

1592
01:15:24.215 --> 01:15:25.765
would be much appreciated

1593
01:15:26.115 --> 01:15:28.485
because, you know, we're already getting calls

1594
01:15:28.485 --> 01:15:30.005
that said you forgot to pick up the

1595
01:15:30.005 --> 01:15:31.045
debris in my neighborhood.

1596
01:15:31.755 --> 01:15:34.525
Well, we didn't forget. We, we haven't gotten there yet.

1597
01:15:35.105 --> 01:15:39.245
Um, Jacobs, your normal sanitation provider will not,

1598
01:15:39.265 --> 01:15:41.445
and it is not equipped to pick up storm debris.

1599
01:15:42.065 --> 01:15:44.885
So they're going to do your normal yard waste.

1600
01:15:45.115 --> 01:15:47.285
They're going to do the normal trimmings

1601
01:15:47.285 --> 01:15:49.925
that they always do, but they are not going to come

1602
01:15:49.925 --> 01:15:54.285
and pick up 10 feet of piled up bush

1603
01:15:54.625 --> 01:15:55.925
and storm debris.

1604
01:15:56.395 --> 01:16:00.885
That is what will be saved for the debris haul through fema.

1605
01:16:01.875 --> 01:16:04.165
Okay, so a question about that.

1606
01:16:04.885 --> 01:16:07.685
I, I read the, the last memo about it

1607
01:16:07.745 --> 01:16:12.565
and it said it should all be piled out close

1608
01:16:12.585 --> 01:16:14.645
to your street, but no bags.

1609
01:16:15.185 --> 01:16:18.325
So I have noticed in my neighborhood there are many,

1610
01:16:18.325 --> 01:16:19.645
many bags out there.

1611
01:16:20.225 --> 01:16:22.205
So the regular trash people are going

1612
01:16:22.205 --> 01:16:23.725
to pick up the stuff that's in bags.

1613
01:16:24.865 --> 01:16:29.605
If it is, if it is bagged up in the size of normal debris,

1614
01:16:29.835 --> 01:16:31.645
like just you,

1615
01:16:32.505 --> 01:16:34.925
you worked on your yard over the weekend, yes.

1616
01:16:35.345 --> 01:16:39.325
But if it is large amounts of storm debris, no,

1617
01:16:39.325 --> 01:16:40.485
they will not collect it.

1618
01:16:40.875 --> 01:16:45.005
Okay. Question, comment.

1619
01:16:46.065 --> 01:16:49.845
The storm debris has to be cut in four foot sections

1620
01:16:49.945 --> 01:16:53.045
or no, no, no, just no,

1621
01:16:53.045 --> 01:16:54.565
just piled up in the road right away.

1622
01:16:54.585 --> 01:16:57.325
The most important thing is put it in the road right away.

1623
01:16:57.595 --> 01:16:59.845
They will not pick it up at postal stations.

1624
01:16:59.845 --> 01:17:01.965
They will not put pick it up if it's just

1625
01:17:01.965 --> 01:17:03.685
been dumped somewhere.

1626
01:17:04.075 --> 01:17:06.605
They will have, and we will release maps of

1627
01:17:06.655 --> 01:17:09.965
where they're route so you'll know exactly, you know,

1628
01:17:10.315 --> 01:17:12.965
approximately when they're going to be in your neighborhood.

1629
01:17:13.305 --> 01:17:16.005
Um, but just pile it up in the road right of way,

1630
01:17:16.005 --> 01:17:19.925
which again is about six to 10 feet from the roadway,

1631
01:17:20.825 --> 01:17:22.085
um, in your yard.

1632
01:17:22.225 --> 01:17:25.485
And they will come and they will do one big sweep

1633
01:17:25.485 --> 01:17:26.725
throughout the villages.

1634
01:17:26.775 --> 01:17:29.605
We're thinking, um, right now that it will start

1635
01:17:30.025 --> 01:17:31.805
by about October 20th.

1636
01:17:32.505 --> 01:17:35.205
So it gives you some time to, if you have,

1637
01:17:35.265 --> 01:17:37.405
and this is all large debris,

1638
01:17:37.465 --> 01:17:40.965
so if you have a tree down in your yard, you just need

1639
01:17:40.965 --> 01:17:44.605
to get it cut up and put by into the road right of way

1640
01:17:44.865 --> 01:17:47.685
so you don't have to have your tree hauler haul it off,

1641
01:17:47.685 --> 01:17:50.045
which typically is a lot more of an expense.

1642
01:17:50.585 --> 01:17:53.405
You just have to get it into the road right of way.

1643
01:17:53.635 --> 01:17:56.085
They will not come on your property and cut up trees

1644
01:17:56.265 --> 01:17:57.285
and move them for you.

1645
01:17:57.425 --> 01:17:59.685
But if it is in the road right of way

1646
01:17:59.705 --> 01:18:02.045
by October 20th when we start, all

1647
01:18:02.045 --> 01:18:03.125
of that will be collected.

1648
01:18:04.275 --> 01:18:04.565
Okay.

1649
01:18:06.085 --> 01:18:10.005
Question ma'am.

1650
01:18:10.005 --> 01:18:12.925
You do have to come to the microphone if you have questions,

1651
01:18:13.025 --> 01:18:14.445
but they will be going every

1652
01:18:14.955 --> 01:18:16.645
residential property in the villages.

1653
01:18:16.955 --> 01:18:19.765
Okay. So Villa Village two, even the Villa Road? Yes ma'am.

1654
01:18:19.875 --> 01:18:20.165
Okay.

1655
01:18:24.765 --> 01:18:26.205
I need two trucks at my house.

1656
01:18:27.695 --> 01:18:30.445
We'll send as many as you need. Okay.

1657
01:18:30.825 --> 01:18:33.245
Uh, any other comments here?

1658
01:18:35.225 --> 01:18:38.085
Um, okay, we're gonna save the date.

1659
01:18:38.545 --> 01:18:40.485
Uh, yes, save the date for government day.

1660
01:18:40.905 --> 01:18:42.805
In addition, um, Ms.

1661
01:18:42.865 --> 01:18:45.565
Farlow has passed around a sign in sheet for you

1662
01:18:45.565 --> 01:18:48.445
to represent district one at this year's government

1663
01:18:48.445 --> 01:18:49.605
day on November 2nd.

1664
01:18:50.385 --> 01:18:52.445
So if you would like to come

1665
01:18:52.445 --> 01:18:55.245
and represent district one, please sign up for a timeframe,

1666
01:18:55.745 --> 01:18:57.405
um, and we look forward to seeing you there.

1667
01:18:58.275 --> 01:19:02.045
Okay. The next update I have is a CCO update.

1668
01:19:02.425 --> 01:19:06.845
Uh, we did provide a letter, um, a printed out letter

1669
01:19:06.905 --> 01:19:08.725
for each of you from cco.

1670
01:19:09.345 --> 01:19:12.765
Um, several boards have directed staff

1671
01:19:13.025 --> 01:19:16.445
to develop alternatives, um, and look at whether

1672
01:19:16.445 --> 01:19:21.165
or not there other options for, um, the area light poles

1673
01:19:21.165 --> 01:19:23.605
after the huge increases that, um,

1674
01:19:23.985 --> 01:19:26.165
CCO notified you of.

1675
01:19:27.465 --> 01:19:30.885
We had a meeting with the CEO of cco, um,

1676
01:19:30.885 --> 01:19:32.445
Curtis Wynn last week

1677
01:19:32.985 --> 01:19:37.045
and asked him to, um, send a letter putting it in writing

1678
01:19:37.275 --> 01:19:38.325
what was discussed.

1679
01:19:39.345 --> 01:19:42.885
And essentially CCO was

1680
01:19:43.285 --> 01:19:44.645
recently awarded a grant.

1681
01:19:45.625 --> 01:19:50.325
And with this grant, the hope is that with the impact of

1682
01:19:50.325 --> 01:19:52.645
that and them incorporating it into that cost

1683
01:19:52.665 --> 01:19:55.525
of service study that they completed as to

1684
01:19:55.525 --> 01:19:57.765
what it actually costs to maintain and

1685
01:19:57.905 --> 01:20:00.205
and manage this area, storm lights,

1686
01:20:01.235 --> 01:20:03.805
that there could potentially be a cost savings

1687
01:20:04.025 --> 01:20:05.325
to the districts once

1688
01:20:05.325 --> 01:20:07.405
that grant is taken into consideration.

1689
01:20:08.145 --> 01:20:10.845
Um, they do not, we don't know that yet.

1690
01:20:10.995 --> 01:20:14.805
That is not something that they will know until they, um,

1691
01:20:15.795 --> 01:20:18.285
have those funds and put it into that cost study.

1692
01:20:18.705 --> 01:20:21.565
But they are working on doing that as we speak.

1693
01:20:22.845 --> 01:20:27.185
And if, if that happens, it could be

1694
01:20:27.215 --> 01:20:30.705
that the boards would not be responsible for

1695
01:20:30.705 --> 01:20:33.065
that second 50% increase next year.

1696
01:20:33.065 --> 01:20:36.985
That was talked about. Um, the hope is to have a meeting

1697
01:20:37.015 --> 01:20:39.905
with all of the districts like they're offered, um,

1698
01:20:39.975 --> 01:20:43.185
like they did last year in the April timeframe, knowing

1699
01:20:43.185 --> 01:20:45.665
that we are working for through our budgeting process

1700
01:20:46.085 --> 01:20:49.705
and that would give the boards a lot more time to consider

1701
01:20:50.245 --> 01:20:52.185
the impacts of that.

1702
01:20:52.885 --> 01:20:55.385
So that has been provided to you in writing.

1703
01:20:55.765 --> 01:21:00.545
Um, we are also going to continue to meet with cco, um,

1704
01:21:00.645 --> 01:21:03.785
moving forward, but this is good news.

1705
01:21:03.925 --> 01:21:05.665
It could be good news from cco.

1706
01:21:06.245 --> 01:21:09.425
Um, and at this point our recommendation would be to wait

1707
01:21:09.525 --> 01:21:12.865
to see what this new rate study does,

1708
01:21:12.865 --> 01:21:14.585
taking into account the grant.

1709
01:21:15.165 --> 01:21:17.825
Um, because it could be at this point that there is not

1710
01:21:17.825 --> 01:21:20.305
that substantial increase to the district.

1711
01:21:21.655 --> 01:21:23.065
Well, I think weights the game

1712
01:21:25.295 --> 01:21:26.295
Objection.

1713
01:21:27.495 --> 01:21:28.545
Okay. Yep.

1714
01:21:29.565 --> 01:21:33.945
And then finally, um, we do have your a RC annual review.

1715
01:21:34.245 --> 01:21:37.945
Um, we did take this back from quarterly to annually, um, so

1716
01:21:37.945 --> 01:21:39.505
that you could see that look back

1717
01:21:39.525 --> 01:21:41.145
of when you changed your rule.

1718
01:21:41.685 --> 01:21:44.265
So Mr. Armstrong will be able to go through this.

1719
01:21:44.605 --> 01:21:47.985
Um, briefly as we are, we're running out of time.

1720
01:21:48.725 --> 01:21:50.185
How fast can you talk ma'am?

1721
01:21:52.015 --> 01:21:52.505
Quickly,

1722
01:21:57.605 --> 01:21:57.825
Ms.

1723
01:21:57.825 --> 01:22:02.185
Farlow, can you click? Alright.

1724
01:22:02.655 --> 01:22:03.865
Alright. Hello board.

1725
01:22:04.085 --> 01:22:06.985
So here are your yearly statistics for, um,

1726
01:22:07.215 --> 01:22:08.545
your particular district.

1727
01:22:08.735 --> 01:22:13.305
This fiscal year we took in 276 concerns for the uh, staff.

1728
01:22:13.365 --> 01:22:14.785
The client staff to review

1729
01:22:15.285 --> 01:22:19.785
of the 276 25 actually ended up in written violations.

1730
01:22:20.125 --> 01:22:21.905
And of the 25 9 came

1731
01:22:21.905 --> 01:22:24.345
before you as a public hearing know,

1732
01:22:24.345 --> 01:22:26.185
oftentimes there are concerns about individuals

1733
01:22:26.185 --> 01:22:27.545
who submit multiple concerns.

1734
01:22:27.545 --> 01:22:30.345
This fiscal year, you only have six instances where someone,

1735
01:22:30.885 --> 01:22:33.945
uh, or an individual submitted a concern, two

1736
01:22:33.945 --> 01:22:35.585
or more, uh, up to five.

1737
01:22:35.605 --> 01:22:38.025
And then one instance where someone submitted, uh,

1738
01:22:38.025 --> 01:22:39.105
more than six concerns.

1739
01:22:40.895 --> 01:22:43.825
This is just a graphical view over the three years, uh,

1740
01:22:43.825 --> 01:22:45.505
time period showing that information

1741
01:22:45.505 --> 01:22:46.665
from the previous slide.

1742
01:22:48.925 --> 01:22:51.505
So this is a breakdown on a monthly basis of the number

1743
01:22:51.505 --> 01:22:52.945
of concerns received.

1744
01:22:53.645 --> 01:22:56.025
Um, this, this, uh, fiscal year,

1745
01:22:56.045 --> 01:22:59.905
you were roughly at like 67% verified concerns of the, uh,

1746
01:22:59.925 --> 01:23:01.585
276 that were received.

1747
01:23:01.665 --> 01:23:05.025
186 were verified concerns that we were able to act upon.

1748
01:23:06.995 --> 01:23:08.525
This is a breakdown of the types

1749
01:23:08.525 --> 01:23:09.805
of concerns that we did receive.

1750
01:23:09.865 --> 01:23:12.365
As you can see, 192 concerns over the

1751
01:23:12.365 --> 01:23:13.645
appearance of your home and or lot.

1752
01:23:13.645 --> 01:23:14.845
And that again, tall grass

1753
01:23:14.865 --> 01:23:17.765
and weeds, algae growth on the property, the condition of

1754
01:23:17.825 --> 01:23:20.445
how, uh, your property does look.

1755
01:23:20.745 --> 01:23:24.805
21 concerns came in second with the number of, um,

1756
01:23:26.395 --> 01:23:28.605
Whether or not you have architectural review applications.

1757
01:23:28.605 --> 01:23:30.205
And then some miscellaneous items

1758
01:23:30.555 --> 01:23:31.565
I'll thrown in there as well.

1759
01:23:31.695 --> 01:23:34.205
Signs, uh, believe it or not, were not that bad

1760
01:23:34.205 --> 01:23:37.485
because again, district one we do not enforce, uh, signs.

1761
01:23:37.505 --> 01:23:39.245
But we did receive concerns regarding signs

1762
01:23:39.245 --> 01:23:40.685
and those are typically your political signs

1763
01:23:40.995 --> 01:23:42.645
that we have this time of year.

1764
01:23:43.545 --> 01:23:46.085
And here are the number of architectural review applications

1765
01:23:46.085 --> 01:23:48.045
that have been received for district one.

1766
01:23:48.045 --> 01:23:51.285
You processed 225 a RC applications

1767
01:23:51.305 --> 01:23:52.765
for district one this fiscal year.

1768
01:23:54.305 --> 01:23:55.925
And if you have any questions, I'm here to answer them.

1769
01:23:58.965 --> 01:24:03.365
I probably was the one with more than six. Here

1770
01:24:03.405 --> 01:24:04.405
I am. I don't know.

1771
01:24:04.405 --> 01:24:05.845
District one permit anonymous. Consent

1772
01:24:09.325 --> 01:24:10.325
District council report.

1773
01:24:10.435 --> 01:24:11.445
Yeah, just one report.

1774
01:24:11.645 --> 01:24:13.805
A reminder that the next supervisor training

1775
01:24:13.825 --> 01:24:17.565
and ethics, uh, public records on Sunshine Law scheduled

1776
01:24:17.565 --> 01:24:20.165
for October 22nd at 9:00 AM

1777
01:24:20.185 --> 01:24:21.925
and that will be held at Colony Cottage.

1778
01:24:23.155 --> 01:24:27.125
Okay. Thank you. Supervisor comments?

1779
01:24:30.845 --> 01:24:32.285
I have none. I do,

1780
01:24:35.085 --> 01:24:39.925
I received a, a call from a lady who lives on La Jolla Road

1781
01:24:40.305 --> 01:24:44.165
and the house next to her had been hit by lightning and,

1782
01:24:44.385 --> 01:24:46.165
and was burned in June

1783
01:24:46.905 --> 01:24:49.965
and she was told that they would have eight months to

1784
01:24:50.535 --> 01:24:52.765
clean up this, this property.

1785
01:24:53.905 --> 01:24:58.445
And she was very concerned about, about this debris blowing

1786
01:24:58.545 --> 01:25:01.125
around in the hurricane that we just had.

1787
01:25:02.265 --> 01:25:06.645
And I think that eight months looking at the house, that's

1788
01:25:07.585 --> 01:25:12.205
pretty much destroyed with all of the shingles flying

1789
01:25:12.205 --> 01:25:14.205
around, even if it's not a hurricane.

1790
01:25:14.745 --> 01:25:16.245
And just the smell of

1791
01:25:16.245 --> 01:25:19.805
that burnt out house is unreasonable.

1792
01:25:20.065 --> 01:25:22.125
And I wonder why eight months is,

1793
01:25:22.215 --> 01:25:23.845
where did eight months come from

1794
01:25:24.145 --> 01:25:26.925
and why are we allowing that to last so long?

1795
01:25:27.685 --> 01:25:29.325
I believe eight months is, um,

1796
01:25:29.325 --> 01:25:31.125
spelled out in the deed restrictions.

1797
01:25:31.465 --> 01:25:33.485
So that's not something we can change.

1798
01:25:33.745 --> 01:25:35.245
The deed restrictions do say

1799
01:25:35.245 --> 01:25:38.205
that if a house is destroyed from natural disasters,

1800
01:25:38.205 --> 01:25:40.405
that the owner shall have eight months to rebuild.

1801
01:25:42.595 --> 01:25:45.125
Okay? And it happened in June and this is October

1802
01:25:45.705 --> 01:25:47.485
and there's been no attempt to rebuild.

1803
01:25:48.385 --> 01:25:51.125
Um, is, I'm not sure if this is an open violation.

1804
01:25:51.225 --> 01:25:53.525
So this is an open violation, which means,

1805
01:25:53.785 --> 01:25:55.165
um, I can't talk about it.

1806
01:25:55.295 --> 01:25:57.005
Right. But it, but what it means is

1807
01:25:57.005 --> 01:25:58.645
that if it's not done in time,

1808
01:25:58.785 --> 01:26:00.325
it will come before you in a public hearing.

1809
01:26:00.835 --> 01:26:04.765
Okay. Well, the other thing I was going to talk about was

1810
01:26:04.905 --> 01:26:08.445
for the Lake Loma Largo or whatever it's called,

1811
01:26:08.785 --> 01:26:10.205
and we've certainly covered that,

1812
01:26:10.345 --> 01:26:12.165
but I do have one other issue.

1813
01:26:12.905 --> 01:26:17.445
It that when you redid, uh, Tiara de sole

1814
01:26:17.465 --> 01:26:22.205
around the pool and put, you did not replace the shade cloth

1815
01:26:22.275 --> 01:26:24.925
that was up over the top of that, uh,

1816
01:26:25.155 --> 01:26:26.485
pergola that we have there.

1817
01:26:26.985 --> 01:26:29.485
And I know that many of the people that use

1818
01:26:29.485 --> 01:26:31.005
that pool are upset that

1819
01:26:31.005 --> 01:26:33.325
that shade cloth has not been replaced.

1820
01:26:33.425 --> 01:26:37.165
And I know I brought it up before. Um, okay.

1821
01:26:37.305 --> 01:26:38.525
Let, let me look into it

1822
01:26:38.525 --> 01:26:40.525
and we'll have it on your old business

1823
01:26:40.625 --> 01:26:43.525
and make sure, I don't think there's a, it, I,

1824
01:26:43.645 --> 01:26:44.965
I don't know if there's a reason why.

1825
01:26:45.425 --> 01:26:47.845
Um, but we'll get it replaced as soon as we can

1826
01:26:47.845 --> 01:26:48.925
and put it on old business.

1827
01:26:49.865 --> 01:26:53.795
Okay. And it was here the whole, the pool. The pool, okay.

1828
01:26:53.815 --> 01:26:57.595
Yes. That's all I can complain about.

1829
01:26:58.805 --> 01:27:00.155
Thank you staff for,

1830
01:27:01.255 --> 01:27:04.795
for even sending out notices at 11 o'clock at night.

1831
01:27:05.395 --> 01:27:07.475
I appreciate all of it that you've gone through

1832
01:27:07.855 --> 01:27:11.755
and, uh, look forward to having a great meeting in November.

1833
01:27:12.635 --> 01:27:13.675
I will entertain a motion.

1834
01:27:14.955 --> 01:27:16.715
I make a Motion We adjourn.

1835
01:27:19.175 --> 01:27:21.235
All those in favor? Aye. Yes.

1836
01:27:23.985 --> 01:27:27.675
It's official at 9 27.

1837
01:27:45.565 --> 01:27:46.715
Hello? No,

1838
01:27:47.095 --> 01:27:48.115
No, I

1839
01:27:53.815 --> 01:27:54.235
Is that

1840
01:27:58.945 --> 01:27:59.945
It's on? It is.

1841
01:27:59.945 --> 01:28:00.755
Yep. Okay. Yep.

1842
01:28:02.705 --> 01:28:04.315
Send it out. It went on last, um,

1843
01:28:04.385 --> 01:28:05.635
last night. Okay. Yep.

1844
01:28:06.445 --> 01:28:09.075
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1845
01:28:11.685 --> 01:28:15.595
Thank, she was,

1846
01:28:16.215 --> 01:28:17.235
she was the only person

1847
01:28:25.335 --> 01:28:26.075
we can't see.

1848
01:28:26.995 --> 01:28:28.315
I know. That way.

1849
01:28:28.875 --> 01:28:32.115
I said my life with meeting planner.

1850
01:28:32.575 --> 01:28:34.435
If you need any help on the logistics,

1851
01:28:34.555 --> 01:28:36.035
I volunteer as a resident.

1852
01:28:41.735 --> 01:28:43.675
You look pretty good. She was great.

1853
01:28:47.695 --> 01:28:50.155
Anyway, this feedback. Thank you.

1854
01:28:54.715 --> 01:28:57.755
I know what happens and where it is. I'm sorry.

1855
01:29:01.055 --> 01:29:02.205
Ready, willing and able.

1856
01:29:06.865 --> 01:29:07.605
So who are you?

1857
01:30:08.265 --> 01:30:09.805
The signs that I'm sure I know

1858
01:30:14.825 --> 01:30:16.405
and I are both your neighbors on

1859
01:30:42.715 --> 01:30:43.005
golf.

1860
01:30:44.875 --> 01:30:46.405
Golf. Any ownership

1861
01:30:46.515 --> 01:30:49.765
because I watch sometimes all

1862
01:30:53.705 --> 01:30:55.205
should they I

1863
01:31:23.405 --> 01:31:24.965
changing around that pond or not.

1864
01:31:24.965 --> 01:31:26.485
Golf course guys. They are not.

1865
01:31:32.555 --> 01:31:35.845
Okay, thank you. I called you the other day.

1866
01:31:35.885 --> 01:31:37.365
I was gonna come down to see you,

1867
01:31:37.365 --> 01:31:39.325
but I dunno if you got the I did.

1868
01:31:39.325 --> 01:31:41.285
I left you voicemail. Oh, I didn't have,

1869
01:31:42.945 --> 01:31:46.365
but uh, no, I just, I, the thing was,

1870
01:31:56.635 --> 01:31:58.565
well it's on the agenda, so we'll talk about it again.

1871
01:32:00.075 --> 01:32:01.965
Okay. How you doing? All

1872
01:32:02.075 --> 01:32:03.075
Good. How about you? You

1873
01:32:03.075 --> 01:32:03.885
good with the storm?

1874
01:32:07.585 --> 01:32:10.645
My yard's a mess, but that's about it. So not bad.

1875
01:32:13.745 --> 01:32:18.685
Silver Lake, They don't,

1876
01:32:20.695 --> 01:32:21.965
we're doing extra taxes,

1877
01:32:26.065 --> 01:32:26.605
But they don't.