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Call the order of the meeting for the, uh,

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community Development District 11, uh,

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for November 18th, 2025.

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All supervisors here are present, so if you please rise

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for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Follow by a moment of silence. Pledge allegiance,

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United States Mayor to the Republic for

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One Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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I wanna welcome our attendees for today's meeting,

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and, um, if you would, uh, if you have, uh, something

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to address to the board, uh, I'd like you to come up

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and state your name and your address,

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and you have three minutes to speak to the board.

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So, uh, if any anyone has anything to say,

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this would be an opportunity to do something

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that's not on the agenda for today.

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So,

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yes, you're talking to the

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microphone. Make sure we can hear

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It. Okay. I'm Rhonda

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Hansen. The address is 32 76 Webster Way.

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Uh, this is in reference to, um, lighting, yard lighting

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and decorations at 32 68 Webster Way.

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I know many of us have called.

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I was probably tired of hearing of it. Oh, closer. Okay.

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Yeah, try to, you're probably tired of hearing about it,

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but, but it is a, an issue in our neighborhood.

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Um, I do have a letter I'd like to read, if you don't mind.

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Sure. One of the things that drew us

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and many others to the villages is the appearance

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of the common ground and the individual homes.

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We were so grateful for HOA guidelines

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that would keep our neighborhoods looking well kept

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and tasteful in the last few months.

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One of the homes on Webster Way has added excessive

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solar lining in the front yard.

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At one point there were over 100 solar lights

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of various style colors, sizes, and heights.

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There were 45 lights lining the driveway.

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The rest were scattered throughout the

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yard, sidewalk and landscaping.

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Although this changes every few days,

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they're always in the excess of lighting

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and decorations at any given time.

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Currently, as two days ago,

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there were at least 80 lights throughout the yard.

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This is just the front yard.

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Um, that does not include the 10, uh, five

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or six foot tall post

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that lined the sidewalk from the driveway to the front porch

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with strings of light hanging from them.

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The appearance of so many lights

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and decorations is very noticeable.

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Even during the daylight hours, we realized

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that many residents enjoy

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decorating their homes for holidays.

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There probably would not be any concern if this occurred a

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couple of times throughout the year and was tastefully done.

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The concern is that this is not going to be the case,

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and that the yard will be continuously lit

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and decorated as has been in the past few months.

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We were all made aware of the HOA

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guidelines when we purchased our homes.

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It is not seen to most of us that the house

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on 32 6 32 68 Webster Way is in compliance.

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The immediate neighbors are not the only ones bothered

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by the appearance of this property.

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All of us have received unbecoming comments about the

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lighting and decorations from others in Pine Ridge

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and surrounding villages.

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They have concerns that this might set a

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precedent and for their neighborhoods.

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The value of our homes may also be affected.

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When the lighting started to be installed, my husband

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and I began looking for other homes to move to

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when our village's realtor came to give us an estimate,

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an estimated sale price for our current home.

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She stated the home might be difficult to sell

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because potential home buyers may not want

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to purchase a house next to one with such

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extensive lighting and decorations.

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They might also put off the amount,

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they might also be put put off by the amount of storage

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that is currently visible on the lanai.

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We are in hopes that the property appearance will be

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reviewed and re and they will be required

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to be kept up to standards.

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Um, I can leave this as you would like to have it. Sure.

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Thank you. I assume the rest

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of the group is supporting the individual.

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Anything different? Okay. Back here.

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My name is Peggy Coven.

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I'm a licensed real estate agent here

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with the Village. Would

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You do me a favor and speak of me?

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Right. Speak into, is that better? Yes. Better.

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Peggy Coven, a licensed real estate agent

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with the villages, but I've been a realtor

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26 years in Lake County.

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Um, the Hansons, I sold them that home.

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And when they had me back over, I can just tell you

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that every one of these people that border, that man's

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well lit home 365 days a year,

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especially the lady here with the pictures.

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If I brought a buyer and parked in her drive

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and they got out and turned around

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and saw what the neighbor was like, they would say, no,

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I'm not interested in this.

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And I think it is devalued all of their homes.

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And I think every one

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of them would have a very difficult time finding a buyer

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next to somebody who obviously

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has got an obsession with lighting.

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And that's just my opinion, but I have seen it for 26 years.

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If it's garbage in the yard, excessive landscaping,

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it turns off fires.

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Thank you. Has this, has this been brought up to, um,

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community standards?

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Can can you speak to that? Well, excuse me.

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Only let, let

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Good afternoon board Shannon Boyd Community standards.

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Yes, as was brought up to community standards, um,

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we did go out, um,

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I would say it was probably maybe a month,

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maybe six weeks ago.

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And when we did go out, there was a lot of lights,

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but they are all landscape lights.

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So there was nothing that we could do

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because there's not a, an amount

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of landscape lightings that you're allowed to have.

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The guidelines says

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that the architectural review manual does not review

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applications for landscape lighting,

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low voltage landscape lighting is permitted,

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but their positioning may not result in light shining

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or glaring into an adjacent residence.

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So based on what staff had seen at that time,

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it didn't look like it was doing any of that.

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So it sounds like it's different

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though, from what the experiences

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We can send somebody back out again. Absolutely.

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Um, yeah. Is there anything that we need to do different,

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uh, uh, from our legal perspective on the,

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on the guidelines on this mark?

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It doesn't seem like for these lights,

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but we are having a bunch of, um,

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complaints about other lighting

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and we are sort of looking into that for other districts.

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Yeah. And that is the, um, shining

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and moving lights and things like that.

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Yeah. Um, that seems to be different than what

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you already went out to this property for.

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We're talking about liquid lights

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and the dancing lights and the bright lights mm-hmm.

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And those kind of things. Um, we are looking into that.

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Uh, those are not permitted under your ARC manual,

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but we have received, um,

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complaints in other districts about 'em.

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So we're looking into how we can address those issues.

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Mm-hmm.

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Any other comments from the board on, on this so far?

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Is it a holiday thing or is it something all the time?

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I guess I, there's a difference between a dancing line

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for holidays versus

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what you all saying. Actually,

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You not on microphone.

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I need my microphone.

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Well, well, the, the issue

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what I'm hearing is this is a 3, 365 day issue.

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Right. Versus, versus an occasional thing

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during the holiday seasons that you have.

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And I think that's what I'm hearing here. Right?

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Go ahead, Jen. Would you wanna say that?

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Um, if I'm not mistaken,

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and these neighbors can affirm this,

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this person does have liquid lights,

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or there was a liquid lights truck there

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that installed liquid lights.

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Um, and in the covenants,

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the liquid lights are not permitted.

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So the ARC manual doesn't allow for the liquid lights,

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the deed restrictions say that lighting must be covered,

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Must be shaded, Must

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Be shaded, and not pose a nuisance.

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A nuisance. So that's the issue here.

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Um, we are working on a definition for nuisance so

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that we can enforce going forward,

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but at this time,

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we don't have anything we can do about the liquid lights.

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So, well go ahead, Peter.

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So I, I, I, I went down Webster way the other day

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to see if which one

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of those houses might be out of compliance.

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And it was fairly, you, you, you found it, right?

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It became obvious. I said, well, I guess that's it.

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Um, and, and it's, I don't think it's only the lights.

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I think that it's all of the other ornaments that are in

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that front yard, that that's what I saw.

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That's what I saw. Uh, multiple flags and other things.

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Um, and,

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and there's, you can find a holiday every day of the year,

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uh, and if this guy has enough money to keep buying stuff

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for every holiday, for every day of the year, I,

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I can understand their, their problem.

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Mm-hmm. Um, and I think that we somehow,

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we should address the number of light of,

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of landscape lights that, that you need to have in a yard.

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I mean, this is not a, this is not a, uh, a premier home

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that has 10,000 square feet.

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This is, uh, this, this is much smaller than that.

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And, uh mm-hmm.

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I think that we ought to try to figure that out. Yeah.

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So we are working on the, um, language

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for the season displays as well.

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Uh, we are working on that,

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and we are working on the language for the nuisance

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for the liquid lights.

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As far as the number

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of lights someone can have for landscaping.

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I don't, I mean, I don't know how we would do that, um,

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what number that would be.

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I think as long as it's not causing, which is what we're,

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um, you know, I think that's a starting point.

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But these are complaints that I'm aware of and,

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and we're working on addressing those.

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Well, I mean, I've seen that too.

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And it's, it's more than just the lights.

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It's all the other stuff that's there.

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It's all the, you know, the, the poles and,

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and I mean, there's, it just seems like to me from a deed

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and compliance, there should be an issue here

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that we would see inside the deed that we have.

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And that, Shannon, isn't that something

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that would be in violation of the deed anyway?

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It depends on what it is.

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I mean, we'll send staff back out,

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we'll put the complaint in and have staff go back out

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to the residents to get updated photos.

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But I know previously it was, I remember seeing a photo

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and it was a bunch of landscape lights.

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So, I mean, I saw it in the driveway

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and it's, it's like everywhere.

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It's, it's, and I can understand that,

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that a concern that the residents have. I really do. Yeah.

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So I know when it came to the landscape lights,

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there was nothing that we were able to do.

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Yeah. But if there is something regarding lawn ornaments

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or poles that are up somewhere,

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we'll definitely send staff back out there to,

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to get updated photos and see what we can do.

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Okay. And if, go ahead, Peter.

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You were, so do, do we have some sense of when, uh,

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the language might be, might be adjusted?

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The season's display isn't, I don't think until January.

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January or February. Yeah.

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January or February for the definitions of

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and description of the seasons that we observe

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and allow, um, decorations or things like that.

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Um, with regard to nuisance, no, I mean,

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that shouldn't take long, but it's gonna be an amendment

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to your rule, which would require

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that you have a public hearing.

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So, um,

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I'm not Until the new year,

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Amen. To

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Not, not until the new year.

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After the new year before. Okay. Okay. Thanks.

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Well, so what I think from an action out of this,

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can you go out and your staff can go out there

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and take a look at this and we can capture all the

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information and bring it back to the board to see

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what we need to make as a way of adjustments to,

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to the rules to be in compliance with, I mean, not

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so much in compliance, but also from the standpoint of

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what should be and what shouldn't be so

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that people understand the compliance issue.

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Okay. Mm-hmm. Because I, I think

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that's what's, what's lacking here.

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We're kind of in the middle here, not knowing that

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this is compliant or not, but when,

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and just as a casual observer, when you go through it,

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it looks like there's a problem here.

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I mean, I just driving by. Mm-hmm.

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So, and I think that's reflective of what,

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what the residents are saying here too.

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Can I suggest that you go out in the evening so that,

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because these lights are, I, I have videos

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and they're flashing and, and circulating

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and Yeah.

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Well, I'm wondering, hold on, hold on.

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How many of these people are annoyed off nuisance

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by these lights shining in their homes?

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And I think it's more of a problem than we think.

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Okay. Mr. Chairman, I have two

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Questions. Yeah, go ahead. Well,

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Actually, a question for you.

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When you send staff out there,

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could they invite all of these folks?

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Maybe about 10 o'clock at night?

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Flashlights,

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Mr. Chairman? Yes.

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Go ahead. Well, I have another question.

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Oh, I apologize. A little more serious question.

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Go ahead. Go, go ahead. Go Ahead.

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So what are we able to do, if anything, this body,

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other than cheer for their cause?

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Well, if, if we could, if it sounds like if we have

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to bite, uh, button down some of the language there so

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that they can enforce it, then that's

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what we have jurisdiction over.

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We can make those changes.

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Right. So this body has that, or a RC

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Well, we would be able, go ahead.

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Yes. This board would set the policy or any policy change

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or adjustment, and that would be either followed

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by arc if a, um, application was submitted

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or enforced through the deed compliance aspect.

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Um, so as Mr.

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Briana stated, it's going to take a rule amendment.

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So once that is developed, we'll request

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that this board advertise for the rule

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for an amendment and restatement.

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Um, that would then be in effect

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The next meeting, which, January.

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January. So on your January agenda, we can go ahead

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and include the request to advertise,

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and that will cut down on that timing so

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that your following meeting, you would be able

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to adopt any type of amendment.

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Um, I was gonna ask Ms. Boyd,

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did the complaint come in initially just as lighting?

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Um, I'm not, I'm not sure how it came in.

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It just sounds like, you know,

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based on the complaint driven process, just for the benefit

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of the audience too, when staff goes out,

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if it's not within the neat

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and clean aspect from a maintenance standpoint, it's going

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to be item content specific to, you know, based on

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what the complaint came in as.

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So it sounds like what we've heard today is it needs

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to be an expanded complaint for the officer to go out

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and review the property.

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So question could, could we recommend to the audience

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that they find out what the neat

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and clean part of this is so that they can, they can, uh,

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file a complaint that is in that that is all encompassing so

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that they know they know what the complaint about

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Has heard. Yeah. If

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the complaints' about the lighting, then

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that's what we'll go out and We'll,

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Well, I, but I, I don't think it's only lighting.

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That's right. I think it's all the other stuff.

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The lawn ordinance, right?

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Like posts or lawn ordinance. Yeah.

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Everything that they've

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Mentioned, I think that falls under the neat

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and clean aspect of the, uh, of the ordinance. Does it?

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We'll have to take a look and see, okay.

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What's there in order for me

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to tell you whether or not it's,

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So I just wanna make it clear to those folks

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that are going to file the complaint exactly

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what they should be complaining about.

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Well, I'm gonna take the complaint today based on the

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testimony that we've heard,

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and I'll, um, we will send staff out.

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Okay. And go ahead and go from there.

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So they don't, they don't need to file it.

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They don't have to mm-hmm. They don't need to

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file another complaint.

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No, sir. Okay. Okay. So there's

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really two aspects we're dealing with.

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One is the neat and clean issue,

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and the other one is the lighting issue.

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Correct. Those are the two things we've gotta address.

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Correct. Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay.

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And, and just to clarify, the audience should know

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that we will, we don't meet until January 6th.

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Correct. So nothing is going to happen from, from anything,

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from any, and for us to amend any, any

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of the language until January 6th.

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Well, if we're gonna, if we're gonna make some changes,

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we have to in January 6th meeting, then we have to agree to,

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to go to a, to a public hearing, uh,

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or a public, um, I think we've gotta have

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to make this thing from a, from a public hearing for a,

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the compliance change.

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Okay. And then that would be the next meeting

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that we would have that we could vote on that to make

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that change if there's any change needed.

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When would that next meeting be?

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That that next meeting would be March 10th. Okay.

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And, and honestly, that matches the, just for the benefit

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of the audience, it's a a 45 day advertisement period

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to amend and restate any rule.

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So even if you, you know, when you authorize to, uh, amend

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and restate, you still have to wait your 45 days

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to do your proper advertising and then hold the hearing.

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So the date from January to March is going

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to match up with that timeline.

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It's not going to delay anything. Okay.

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Thank you. Yeah. Okay.

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But, but if there's some issues

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that you're finding out right away when you look at

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it, those can be addressed. Oh,

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Yeah. We'll address if

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There's, okay. Yes, absolutely.

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Okay. Okay. Mr.

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You wanna come up to the podium?

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My name is Sanford Cohen,

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and I live at, uh, on Kranz Avenue, right

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around the corner from Webster.

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Seems, from what I've heard, just a little while ago,

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what she stated just now is they have landscape lighting

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to me, landscape lighting lights, your landscape,

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not the entire yard.

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So I think one of the things you need to do is define

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what landscape lighting is.

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It can't come down like a, uh, like a airport runway.

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Mm-hmm. And across and everywhere else.

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And also, when you get into the holiday definitions,

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hol like they said, holidays can't last 365 days a year.

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Um, there is specifically, uh, things

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that say Christmas lighting go up at a certain point,

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people are already putting trees up, you know,

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and we're a little ways from Christmas yet.

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And, um, and not to throw any holidays out out

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of it, but they're supposed

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to be taken down by a certain date.

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Mm-hmm. So you can't have 'em up for weeks and weeks

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after the holiday and

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before the holiday and everything else.

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The, we've moved into this, uh, area for a specific reason

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for, you know, it was a planned community, right.

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That there is hoa, there is restrictions,

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but the definition

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of a landscape light sounds very important

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to the compliance people, you know?

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Oh, yes. Landscape lights.

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So I think that should be addressed in the January meeting

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and also defined in the rules exactly

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what a landscape light is.

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Okay. Alright. Thank you. Thank you.

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Sure. Hi, my name is Wayne Bryant.

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Uh, I live at 32 61, uh, Webster Way,

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which is really ground zero.

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We are right across the street from all this.

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I have remarks prepared.

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I'm not gonna read them because

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a lot of this was just covered.

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I'm not gonna be redundant,

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but I just want to address a couple of things

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that we just heard a couple of minutes ago.

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Um, the young lady that was talking about, um, coming back

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and, and viewing it again, just wanna let you know,

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this thing is a, like an amoeba.

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It moves and it changes,

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and the light numbers grow, and then they wane

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and then they grow again.

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The, the homeowner has told us more than once,

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if people complain, I'm just gonna add more.

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And that's just what's been happening.

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When we go to bed at 11 o'clock, I look out our, by the way,

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we see this out our front door, our front windows,

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our front porch, our garage, our lawn, and our driveway.

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We can't escape that when I look out at night

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at 11 o'clock to go to bed.

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No kidding. It looks like the union

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and Confederate armies have camped across the street

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with these flickering bonfires, is what it looks like to us.

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So, uh, my wife Judy, has some pictures here.

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Oh, you turn. Okay. Okay, good.

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Uh, and, um, so you can see what we're seeing, uh, jinx.

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Do you want me to say it or you gonna come up? You go ahead.

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Okay. This is our neighbor Jink Spaghetti.

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She lives across the street from us. Yeah.

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Truly across the street. She has two points to make,

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so I think are worth hearing.

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One is that when it's windy out,

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this stuff can become projectiles

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and fly around the neighborhood.

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And, uh, what was your other one? J uh, excuse me.

486
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Excuse me. Oh, oh, okay.

487
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During Halloween,

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there was a stop sign out there, a stop traffic.

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And, and yes, people are gonna come, we know Oracle.

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You've seen the great Halloween decorations down there.

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We get that. Okay. We understand that.

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Uh, but there was, there were golf carts back right up

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around the corner in Webster Way, they're out into Hallmark.

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That's a little bit of a, a safety concern.

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So those two issues there, I think are very relevant.

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Um, I had one more point.

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Do you think I can remember it now? Of course not.

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Um, but I think the bottom line is you get our message

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that we think we need rules in place to address this issue.

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Great. Judy, you wanna say anything on those or no? Yes.

501
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Okay. Wait, wait. You can't talk from there.

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You have, we can't capture, yeah. Yeah.

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I'm gonna sit down and somebody else is gonna come up.

504
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Alright. Okay. I do have notes of what I was going to say.

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I, I brought five copies, so if you want them,

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I can drop them off to you.

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Mm-hmm. Alright. And thank you very much.

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Really appreciate your consideration

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Mr. Chairman. Thank

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you. Yes. If I can just add that, um, Mr.

511
00:23:07.395 --> 00:23:10.845
Brianne and Ms. Boyd did review, um, just now

512
00:23:10.845 --> 00:23:13.925
and did identify a section that references nuisance

513
00:23:13.995 --> 00:23:16.885
that is included within your current adopted rules.

514
00:23:17.545 --> 00:23:20.765
Um, so that is going to provide community standards,

515
00:23:20.765 --> 00:23:22.125
the ability to go ahead

516
00:23:22.125 --> 00:23:25.405
and take some action now, um, with the understanding

517
00:23:25.405 --> 00:23:29.015
that we need to further define nuisance in

518
00:23:29.535 --> 00:23:30.535
a future rule amendment,

519
00:23:30.675 --> 00:23:34.175
but it is included within your current matrix, um,

520
00:23:34.355 --> 00:23:35.855
for community standards to go ahead

521
00:23:35.855 --> 00:23:37.615
and move forward from that perspective as well.

522
00:23:37.725 --> 00:23:40.215
Well, and that, and that's what I suspected,

523
00:23:40.215 --> 00:23:41.295
that there should be some things

524
00:23:41.295 --> 00:23:42.295
that could be addressed now,

525
00:23:42.355 --> 00:23:43.735
and then there's some other things we can,

526
00:23:43.735 --> 00:23:47.285
we could catch up on on the next, next go around, right?

527
00:23:47.285 --> 00:23:48.725
Yes. Yes. Okay. Yep. Go ahead.

528
00:23:49.035 --> 00:23:50.685
Okay. I'm Judy Bryant

529
00:23:50.905 --> 00:23:55.605
and I live across the street, uh, from 32 68 Webster Way.

530
00:23:55.955 --> 00:23:57.365
Currently, we are unable

531
00:23:57.365 --> 00:23:59.045
to enjoy the full use of our property.

532
00:23:59.385 --> 00:24:03.085
The excessive lights at 32 68 Webster Way create light

533
00:24:03.125 --> 00:24:05.245
pollution when we sit on our porch.

534
00:24:05.465 --> 00:24:08.005
Not only do we have to put up with blinking chasing

535
00:24:08.225 --> 00:24:12.165
and flickering lights, but also very bright red, white

536
00:24:12.185 --> 00:24:13.365
and blue solar lights.

537
00:24:14.065 --> 00:24:16.205
In addition to the multitude of solar lights.

538
00:24:16.275 --> 00:24:18.165
Many of them are hung on four, five

539
00:24:18.225 --> 00:24:21.405
and six foot garden hooks and poles.

540
00:24:21.985 --> 00:24:23.245
We are also subjected

541
00:24:23.245 --> 00:24:25.765
to multicolored liquid lights under the eaves

542
00:24:25.765 --> 00:24:28.285
and around the peaks of the home, as well

543
00:24:28.285 --> 00:24:31.125
as colored rope lights outlining the garage door.

544
00:24:31.985 --> 00:24:34.365
We have driven all around Pine Ridge and Pine Hills

545
00:24:34.785 --> 00:24:36.245
and cannot find another property

546
00:24:36.245 --> 00:24:38.405
that looks like 32 68 Webster Way.

547
00:24:39.145 --> 00:24:42.325
We feel community standards has not fairly enforced the

548
00:24:42.325 --> 00:24:44.845
rules, particularly on solar landscape lighting.

549
00:24:45.275 --> 00:24:48.605
Therefore, we are asking you as board members to help us

550
00:24:48.605 --> 00:24:49.925
to get community standards

551
00:24:49.925 --> 00:24:51.765
to revisit the property which is happening,

552
00:24:52.065 --> 00:24:53.525
and bringing up to the standards

553
00:24:53.525 --> 00:24:54.685
that residents expect when

554
00:24:54.685 --> 00:24:56.085
purchasing a home in the villages.

555
00:24:57.485 --> 00:24:59.565
I am quoting from the deed compliance section

556
00:24:59.625 --> 00:25:03.365
of the District 11 Architectural Review manual quote.

557
00:25:03.635 --> 00:25:05.925
When you signed the Declaration of Covenants

558
00:25:05.925 --> 00:25:09.165
and restrictions, you agreed to adhere to the high standards

559
00:25:09.165 --> 00:25:10.925
of maintenance and aesthetic values

560
00:25:11.445 --> 00:25:13.365
expected in a first class community like the

561
00:25:13.365 --> 00:25:14.685
Villages end quote.

562
00:25:15.195 --> 00:25:17.485
Clearly this property does not adhere

563
00:25:17.705 --> 00:25:19.845
to the aesthetic values of our district.

564
00:25:20.465 --> 00:25:22.645
We are here to ask for your help in issuing some rule

565
00:25:22.705 --> 00:25:25.445
clarifications and amendments in three different areas.

566
00:25:26.155 --> 00:25:28.605
Some suggestions to consider are, number one,

567
00:25:28.605 --> 00:25:29.925
the solar landscape lights

568
00:25:30.905 --> 00:25:33.685
can only be used in landscaping beds alongside

569
00:25:33.685 --> 00:25:35.045
the driveway, a walkway.

570
00:25:35.185 --> 00:25:39.165
And to illuminate the American flag that no garden hooks

571
00:25:39.165 --> 00:25:40.645
or poles can be used to hang

572
00:25:40.705 --> 00:25:42.885
or string lights that the top

573
00:25:42.885 --> 00:25:45.845
of a solar light may not be any higher than like 16

574
00:25:45.845 --> 00:25:46.885
inches off the ground.

575
00:25:47.825 --> 00:25:51.005
Lights cannot be randomly placed around the property

576
00:25:51.005 --> 00:25:52.725
and be classified as decorating.

577
00:25:52.955 --> 00:25:54.805
Excessive lights should be determined

578
00:25:54.925 --> 00:25:56.645
to leave the solar light category

579
00:25:56.945 --> 00:25:59.805
and become exterior lighting, which is prohibited under,

580
00:25:59.985 --> 00:26:02.165
unless attached to the exterior of the home.

581
00:26:03.545 --> 00:26:04.605
As far as holidays

582
00:26:04.605 --> 00:26:06.365
and celebrations, I think we need

583
00:26:06.365 --> 00:26:08.125
to determine which holidays can have

584
00:26:08.125 --> 00:26:09.485
decorations for 30 days.

585
00:26:10.025 --> 00:26:12.045
And I would suggest the Halloween,

586
00:26:12.495 --> 00:26:13.925
which is not actually a holiday,

587
00:26:14.625 --> 00:26:16.125
but it seems to be in the villages

588
00:26:16.585 --> 00:26:18.165
and, uh, the winter holiday

589
00:26:18.345 --> 00:26:19.845
and one patriotic holiday,

590
00:26:19.995 --> 00:26:22.685
perhaps either Memorial Day or the 4th of July.

591
00:26:23.345 --> 00:26:25.645
All other holidays would have a seven day limit,

592
00:26:26.105 --> 00:26:28.965
and you can only decorate for one holiday at a time.

593
00:26:29.385 --> 00:26:32.125
He is decorated for three holidays at once.

594
00:26:33.235 --> 00:26:36.725
Also for flags to allow one flag attached to the home,

595
00:26:37.185 --> 00:26:39.285
and one flag either on a permanent

596
00:26:39.465 --> 00:26:41.685
or portable pole on the property.

597
00:26:42.305 --> 00:26:44.925
The exception to this would be on patriotic holidays

598
00:26:44.925 --> 00:26:48.365
with a 12 to 18 inch patriotic small flags.

599
00:26:48.875 --> 00:26:51.005
It's unfortunate to have to micromanage,

600
00:26:51.465 --> 00:26:53.325
but when a property is so out of control,

601
00:26:53.485 --> 00:26:54.765
I see no other solutions.

602
00:26:55.095 --> 00:26:56.725
Thank you for your time and for listening

603
00:26:56.725 --> 00:26:58.325
to the many comments that have been made.

604
00:26:58.465 --> 00:26:59.645
Please help us.

605
00:27:00.195 --> 00:27:02.045
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

606
00:27:02.675 --> 00:27:04.445
Okay, so we've got a couple action items.

607
00:27:04.685 --> 00:27:07.085
I think we we're all agreeing that that one is,

608
00:27:07.085 --> 00:27:08.325
they're gonna, we're gonna go ahead.

609
00:27:08.325 --> 00:27:09.925
Community standards, gonna take a look at

610
00:27:09.925 --> 00:27:13.365
where the nuisance problems are right now to give remedy.

611
00:27:13.825 --> 00:27:15.485
And then, then we will take a look at

612
00:27:15.485 --> 00:27:16.685
what are the other things we need

613
00:27:16.685 --> 00:27:20.405
to button up on on the policy to make sure

614
00:27:20.435 --> 00:27:23.245
that it's not intrusive to, to the neighborhood and, and,

615
00:27:23.305 --> 00:27:24.645
and the neighbors, right?

616
00:27:24.675 --> 00:27:26.205
Correct. Okay. Good.

617
00:27:26.585 --> 00:27:30.125
So, just, just in defense of a RC, when, when,

618
00:27:30.195 --> 00:27:32.525
when they went to, to look at the property,

619
00:27:32.595 --> 00:27:35.045
they were going there to look at, uh, landscape lighting,

620
00:27:35.705 --> 00:27:37.365
and that was, that was the issue

621
00:27:37.365 --> 00:27:39.085
that was brought to them. Is that correct?

622
00:27:39.725 --> 00:27:41.125
I know lighting was, I don't know if it

623
00:27:41.125 --> 00:27:42.325
was specific to landscape,

624
00:27:42.465 --> 00:27:43.765
But so, so when you went

625
00:27:43.865 --> 00:27:46.605
and did, you did your job, you looked at, at what was there,

626
00:27:46.745 --> 00:27:49.885
and it was, and it fell underneath the purview of,

627
00:27:49.985 --> 00:27:51.845
of our rules and regulations.

628
00:27:51.945 --> 00:27:54.645
So, so therefore no action was taken. Correct? Correct.

629
00:27:54.705 --> 00:27:56.605
So, so now that you understand

630
00:27:56.745 --> 00:27:59.325
and we all understand the magnitude of the problem,

631
00:27:59.785 --> 00:28:01.525
now we can move forward to Correct.

632
00:28:01.825 --> 00:28:04.725
Try to rectify the situation. Right. Thank you. Okay.

633
00:28:04.735 --> 00:28:07.405
Thank you. Thanks. Okay. Thank you. Thank you everybody.

634
00:28:09.515 --> 00:28:13.125
Okay. Any other comments other than Okay,

635
00:28:16.875 --> 00:28:17.875
I'll make one quick.

636
00:28:18.075 --> 00:28:19.965
Okay. My name is Stephanie Cohen.

637
00:28:20.045 --> 00:28:21.045
I don't live in Pine Ridge.

638
00:28:21.125 --> 00:28:24.365
I live in Pine Hills on 1 0 9 6 Lane Terrace.

639
00:28:24.865 --> 00:28:26.125
Um, question

640
00:28:26.185 --> 00:28:29.565
and then a comment, um, hasn't he's been addressed,

641
00:28:29.685 --> 00:28:32.205
I guess you, you guys are obviously saying

642
00:28:32.275 --> 00:28:33.285
someone's talked to him.

643
00:28:33.365 --> 00:28:35.445
I don't know if you can tell us, is he willing

644
00:28:35.545 --> 00:28:36.645
to somehow work with us?

645
00:28:36.745 --> 00:28:40.405
It seems like. No, um, my other comment would be, went

646
00:28:40.405 --> 00:28:42.765
to lunch with, uh, several of my neighbors.

647
00:28:43.245 --> 00:28:45.045
I hadn't seen him in a few months, been outta town.

648
00:28:45.185 --> 00:28:47.365
And, uh, it was brought up, did you see

649
00:28:47.365 --> 00:28:48.525
that house on Webster Way?

650
00:28:48.945 --> 00:28:50.805
And, uh, one lady said, yeah,

651
00:28:51.065 --> 00:28:52.925
we had a friend that was in town.

652
00:28:53.145 --> 00:28:55.125
Her and her husband were going down that street

653
00:28:55.125 --> 00:28:56.765
to look at a different house to purchase.

654
00:28:56.985 --> 00:28:59.085
And they said, Nope, don't even wanna be near that.

655
00:28:59.665 --> 00:29:01.245
And it became a joke at lunch.

656
00:29:01.345 --> 00:29:04.005
And it's not a joke to these people. These are our friends.

657
00:29:04.465 --> 00:29:05.645
We do know several of them.

658
00:29:05.745 --> 00:29:06.885
I'm looking forward to meeting the rest of you,

659
00:29:07.265 --> 00:29:08.885
but we do know several of them.

660
00:29:09.065 --> 00:29:10.645
And it is heart wre heartbreaking

661
00:29:10.675 --> 00:29:12.245
that they have beautiful homes

662
00:29:12.545 --> 00:29:13.605
and that's what they turn into.

663
00:29:13.635 --> 00:29:16.405
Sure. And then my neighbor just the other day said, oh,

664
00:29:16.625 --> 00:29:18.485
my sister's looking in the villages.

665
00:29:18.485 --> 00:29:21.045
She wants to live by us. She won't go near that area.

666
00:29:21.585 --> 00:29:23.005
So it is obvious

667
00:29:23.265 --> 00:29:26.125
as the real estate agent has spoken, it is true.

668
00:29:26.145 --> 00:29:27.885
People are going to avoid, avoid

669
00:29:27.885 --> 00:29:30.885
that area, and then what happens. Okay. So, thank you.

670
00:29:30.885 --> 00:29:33.565
Thank you. Okay. Yes.

671
00:29:34.685 --> 00:29:36.645
I, I just, just so that you have the message,

672
00:29:36.825 --> 00:29:38.245
we understand the problem here,

673
00:29:38.245 --> 00:29:39.125
and we're gonna, we're gonna,

674
00:29:39.125 --> 00:29:40.365
we're gonna get into that. So go ahead.

675
00:29:40.365 --> 00:29:41.565
Okay. I'm Robin Cohen.

676
00:29:41.605 --> 00:29:45.445
I live on Crans Avenue near, uh, the Webster House.

677
00:29:45.945 --> 00:29:49.605
Um, you know, we said it in the Pledge of Allegiance,

678
00:29:49.605 --> 00:29:50.885
justice for all.

679
00:29:51.375 --> 00:29:53.525
We're all here to enjoy a beautiful community.

680
00:29:53.525 --> 00:29:54.965
We all moved here for the same reason. Mm-hmm.

681
00:29:55.385 --> 00:29:56.405
And it's heartbreaking

682
00:29:57.105 --> 00:29:58.565
for the people that live near this house.

683
00:29:58.565 --> 00:30:00.605
Mm-hmm. And for us, even passing by it Right.

684
00:30:00.605 --> 00:30:02.285
To see that it's such an amusement park.

685
00:30:02.805 --> 00:30:05.725
I think the issue more is if he is allowed

686
00:30:05.785 --> 00:30:08.965
to continue this way, what is gonna stop any one

687
00:30:08.965 --> 00:30:11.605
of us from creating the same mess on our lawns?

688
00:30:11.605 --> 00:30:13.245
Mm-hmm. And then it really gets out of control. Right.

689
00:30:13.245 --> 00:30:14.685
So, thank you for listening and I hope some

690
00:30:14.685 --> 00:30:16.245
changes occur. Thank you.

691
00:30:16.415 --> 00:30:20.325
Thank you. Okay. Okay.

692
00:30:27.425 --> 00:30:29.765
I'm Cheryl Brown. I live on Tressler Terrace,

693
00:30:30.085 --> 00:30:31.725
a block over from this, this home.

694
00:30:32.145 --> 00:30:33.685
And his lights shine

695
00:30:33.685 --> 00:30:36.525
between the houses across the street from me in

696
00:30:36.645 --> 00:30:37.845
my front door window.

697
00:30:38.225 --> 00:30:40.965
So when I'm sitting, sitting watching TV in the evening,

698
00:30:41.565 --> 00:30:43.445
I started seeing this strobe light going by

699
00:30:43.465 --> 00:30:45.165
and I thought, oh, somebody on the street

700
00:30:45.165 --> 00:30:46.205
must have an emergency.

701
00:30:46.205 --> 00:30:47.565
There must be emergency vehicles.

702
00:30:47.905 --> 00:30:50.165
And what it was, was every time a car would go by,

703
00:30:50.605 --> 00:30:52.245
I would get the strobe light effect from all

704
00:30:52.245 --> 00:30:53.445
the lighting coming from his house.

705
00:30:53.465 --> 00:30:55.005
Mm-hmm. So it's, uh,

706
00:30:55.475 --> 00:30:57.285
it's like it's not just affecting their

707
00:30:57.285 --> 00:30:58.485
houses and their neighborhood.

708
00:30:58.555 --> 00:31:00.485
Yeah. It's, it's snowballing. Okay.

709
00:31:00.535 --> 00:31:04.005
Thank you. Okay.

710
00:31:05.705 --> 00:31:08.165
Any other, um, points of business other than this?

711
00:31:08.365 --> 00:31:10.565
'cause I think we've got, we've got an action item on that.

712
00:31:11.035 --> 00:31:15.465
Okay. Alright. Thank you. Okay.

713
00:31:15.525 --> 00:31:18.425
Um, do we, are we gonna have, um, law enforcement update?

714
00:31:18.705 --> 00:31:22.105
I don't see anybody. We have a law enforcement update.

715
00:31:22.305 --> 00:31:24.185
I don't see law enforcement here. Okay. Okay.

716
00:31:24.395 --> 00:31:26.785
We'll contact them and do that. We'll contact them. Okay.

717
00:31:27.695 --> 00:31:29.865
Okay. The next is, um, new business on,

718
00:31:29.885 --> 00:31:31.065
uh, on approval of minutes.

719
00:31:31.405 --> 00:31:34.945
Do we have, uh, a motion to, uh, approve the minutes?

720
00:31:35.215 --> 00:31:39.505
Move to approve. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

721
00:31:39.685 --> 00:31:42.865
Aye. Aye. Any opposed? And none opposed. Okay.

722
00:31:42.865 --> 00:31:47.105
The next is the adoption of resolution 20 26 0 1, 24 25.

723
00:31:47.285 --> 00:31:48.285
Budget Amendment.

724
00:31:50.655 --> 00:31:51.745
Good afternoon everyone.

725
00:31:52.015 --> 00:31:55.225
Sean Boyle Finance, it's my pleasure to introduce,

726
00:31:55.485 --> 00:31:57.585
um, item three B.

727
00:31:58.345 --> 00:31:59.465
I think it's something you said,

728
00:32:02.335 --> 00:32:04.225
respect for you all. Do you want us to

729
00:32:04.225 --> 00:32:05.865
Stay or do you want No, At the end?

730
00:32:06.025 --> 00:32:08.665
I, you're, you're, you're, you're welcome to stay,

731
00:32:08.685 --> 00:32:10.465
you're welcome to leave whatever you'd like to do.

732
00:32:10.655 --> 00:32:12.985
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

733
00:32:15.775 --> 00:32:17.785
Okay, go ahead.

734
00:32:19.965 --> 00:32:24.545
So I'm introducing, um, resolution 2026 dash oh one,

735
00:32:24.545 --> 00:32:26.785
amending fiscal year budget 24 25.

736
00:32:28.015 --> 00:32:29.185
What we're requesting

737
00:32:34.005 --> 00:32:34.665
no gift cards.

738
00:32:37.645 --> 00:32:40.525
Go ahead. Just Kidding. Um, so what we're,

739
00:32:40.525 --> 00:32:43.045
what we're requesting is a modification to the budget.

740
00:32:43.185 --> 00:32:44.645
Now these are balance sheet accounts.

741
00:32:45.025 --> 00:32:46.805
So we're requesting modification to the budget

742
00:32:46.865 --> 00:32:51.245
for the 2014 debt service fund by $159,920,

743
00:32:51.865 --> 00:32:56.405
and a corresponding, uh, adjustment to the 2014 capital fund

744
00:32:56.545 --> 00:32:59.605
of $174,904.

745
00:33:00.095 --> 00:33:02.805
These are what I call net neutral transactions.

746
00:33:02.805 --> 00:33:04.525
They're gonna, they're gonna net to zero.

747
00:33:05.185 --> 00:33:07.685
And what we're doing is we're reducing a liability.

748
00:33:08.345 --> 00:33:11.325
Uh, we have a deferred cost liability on the books

749
00:33:11.325 --> 00:33:15.405
that was incurred at the, uh, construction of the district.

750
00:33:15.825 --> 00:33:19.045
And we're gonna correspondingly reduce the assets,

751
00:33:19.435 --> 00:33:23.765
primarily cash to meet those, those costs that we're paying,

752
00:33:23.855 --> 00:33:28.765
we're paying down the transaction is very controlled

753
00:33:28.765 --> 00:33:32.165
through, uh, the, uh, the bond covenants.

754
00:33:32.165 --> 00:33:35.045
Mm-hmm. And so it's very controlled how we do this.

755
00:33:35.385 --> 00:33:39.045
And so we are just, uh, here to ask for permission

756
00:33:39.045 --> 00:33:43.085
to approve relu or adopt resolution 20 26 0 1.

757
00:33:43.825 --> 00:33:47.165
Um, with that in mind, with these dollar amounts in mind,

758
00:33:48.865 --> 00:33:51.565
Any comments or questions from the board? Anything

759
00:33:52.265 --> 00:33:56.845
I'd make a motion to adopt resolution 22 20 26 0 1, uh,

760
00:33:57.065 --> 00:34:00.325
fiscal year 20 24, 25, budget amendment.

761
00:34:01.395 --> 00:34:04.605
Nothing. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

762
00:34:04.665 --> 00:34:07.485
Any opposed? Okay. None opposed. Okay. Thank you.

763
00:34:07.615 --> 00:34:09.125
Thank you, sir. You all done?

764
00:34:10.265 --> 00:34:13.125
I'm also here to represent, uh, three C.

765
00:34:13.785 --> 00:34:15.845
Oh, you're, you're, you're going to do the next one too.

766
00:34:15.915 --> 00:34:16.925
Yeah, go ahead.

767
00:34:17.775 --> 00:34:20.105
It's a one stop shop. Oh, you're the one shop.

768
00:34:20.845 --> 00:34:24.265
Yes, sir. So, introducing, uh, item three C,

769
00:34:24.435 --> 00:34:26.705
which is a simple renewal of a contract.

770
00:34:26.795 --> 00:34:31.065
Right. District 11 entered into a contract back in September

771
00:34:31.165 --> 00:34:35.785
of 2022 with down to earth for their irrigation

772
00:34:35.785 --> 00:34:36.945
and landscaping needs.

773
00:34:37.565 --> 00:34:42.385
Uh, that contract included a renewal at the end

774
00:34:42.385 --> 00:34:45.065
of the initial, uh, period of three years,

775
00:34:45.685 --> 00:34:47.985
and that renewal would be for two years.

776
00:34:48.765 --> 00:34:50.265
The only addition that, uh,

777
00:34:50.335 --> 00:34:53.385
they requested was an escalation in the cost,

778
00:34:53.395 --> 00:34:55.785
which is approximately $3,100.

779
00:34:56.215 --> 00:34:58.905
Keeping in mind the first three years was fixed in firm,

780
00:34:59.725 --> 00:35:03.145
and this $3,100 will be fixed in firm, uh,

781
00:35:03.155 --> 00:35:04.865
going out for the next two years.

782
00:35:04.925 --> 00:35:07.625
So that increment will carry for the next two years.

783
00:35:08.695 --> 00:35:10.985
With that said, if agreed, um,

784
00:35:11.005 --> 00:35:13.185
and there are no questions, we're looking for a motion

785
00:35:13.245 --> 00:35:17.305
to approve amendment one of agreement RFP 22, uh,

786
00:35:17.865 --> 00:35:21.665
RFP 22 P dash zero 20 group C

787
00:35:22.175 --> 00:35:25.385
with Fs down to earth, um,

788
00:35:25.575 --> 00:35:28.945
with a 5% escalator on their current contract.

789
00:35:30.085 --> 00:35:32.785
Any comments or questions? Yep. You have something, Jan?

790
00:35:32.845 --> 00:35:36.665
Go ahead. Yeah, the 5%, is that the 3,100? Is that

791
00:35:37.265 --> 00:35:38.265
Yes. 5%

792
00:35:38.265 --> 00:35:39.005
increase.

793
00:35:40.045 --> 00:35:41.525
I didn't hear the first part. I apologize.

794
00:35:42.785 --> 00:35:45.525
I'm sorry. The, um, increase

795
00:35:45.525 --> 00:35:48.245
that you're talking about there, $3,100?

796
00:35:48.425 --> 00:35:50.685
Mm-hmm. Is that the 5%?

797
00:35:51.105 --> 00:35:52.845
Yes, ma'am. That's the incremental difference.

798
00:35:53.185 --> 00:35:56.765
The total contract's gone from 62 to $65,000

799
00:35:57.225 --> 00:35:59.445
and it was incorporated into the budget with

800
00:35:59.445 --> 00:36:00.765
that increase. Mm-hmm.

801
00:36:01.265 --> 00:36:05.645
That's reasonable. Okay. I make a motion to approve.

802
00:36:06.145 --> 00:36:11.005
Um, RFP number 22 P dash oh two oh. Group C second.

803
00:36:11.785 --> 00:36:15.725
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays? No nays.

804
00:36:15.795 --> 00:36:19.845
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

805
00:36:20.025 --> 00:36:22.125
Um, the next item is, uh,

806
00:36:22.365 --> 00:36:25.565
resolution 20 26 0 2 amending the rule

807
00:36:25.585 --> 00:36:26.925
to bring about deed compliance.

808
00:36:27.785 --> 00:36:29.525
Yes, Ms. Boyd will handle this presentation.

809
00:36:30.835 --> 00:36:32.405
Good afternoon board. Yes, I am.

810
00:36:32.955 --> 00:36:35.405
Good afternoon, Shannon Void. Community Standards.

811
00:36:36.025 --> 00:36:39.285
At its September 4th, 2025 meeting, the board

812
00:36:39.285 --> 00:36:41.525
of supervisors authorized the publication

813
00:36:41.865 --> 00:36:43.765
of its district's intent to amend

814
00:36:43.765 --> 00:36:46.005
and restate chapter one of its rule

815
00:36:46.005 --> 00:36:47.285
to bring about deed compliance.

816
00:36:47.675 --> 00:36:50.245
This amendment serves as two main purposes.

817
00:36:50.865 --> 00:36:53.845
One, this amendment adds the cleanup of miscellaneous

818
00:36:54.445 --> 00:36:57.605
landscaping debris and the spraying of rogue vine growth

819
00:36:57.945 --> 00:36:59.885
to appendix fee, the standards

820
00:36:59.885 --> 00:37:01.445
and the matrix and the fine schedule.

821
00:37:02.025 --> 00:37:05.245
And number two is to establish a clear, systematic

822
00:37:05.305 --> 00:37:08.245
and consistent process regarding any violation

823
00:37:08.245 --> 00:37:10.245
of the general provisions of the neat

824
00:37:10.245 --> 00:37:11.285
and clean requirements.

825
00:37:11.715 --> 00:37:14.645
When a complaint is filed regarding any violation

826
00:37:14.945 --> 00:37:17.485
of any part of the general provisions of the neat

827
00:37:17.485 --> 00:37:19.245
and clean a requirement,

828
00:37:19.295 --> 00:37:21.325
staff will conduct a complete review

829
00:37:21.625 --> 00:37:24.725
of the property's compliance with all related provisions.

830
00:37:25.155 --> 00:37:27.485
This will result in a comprehensive review

831
00:37:27.745 --> 00:37:29.445
of the property's compliance.

832
00:37:29.475 --> 00:37:31.725
With the entirety of these provisions,

833
00:37:32.485 --> 00:37:34.965
district staff will inspect all applicable maintenance

834
00:37:35.165 --> 00:37:36.885
standards during their site visit.

835
00:37:37.485 --> 00:37:40.445
Regardless of the specific nature of the original complaint.

836
00:37:40.865 --> 00:37:42.805
The budget impact will be dependent on the number

837
00:37:42.805 --> 00:37:45.045
of decompliance concerns received,

838
00:37:45.645 --> 00:37:48.125
a RC applications received and process,

839
00:37:48.345 --> 00:37:51.965
and the number of public hearings conducted staff recommends

840
00:37:51.965 --> 00:37:56.285
the board adopt resolution 2026 dash zero two amending

841
00:37:56.285 --> 00:37:59.965
and restating chapter one of its rule to break of its rule

842
00:37:59.965 --> 00:38:02.765
to bring about deep compliance as provided herein

843
00:38:02.785 --> 00:38:05.245
and in accordance with the documents included

844
00:38:05.275 --> 00:38:06.365
with this agenda item.

845
00:38:06.385 --> 00:38:08.805
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

846
00:38:10.185 --> 00:38:11.885
Any questions? I do. I have a question.

847
00:38:12.055 --> 00:38:13.445
Who's the compliance officer?

848
00:38:15.865 --> 00:38:18.325
You refer to a compliance officer in this

849
00:38:18.465 --> 00:38:20.605
and I, I I'm just curious who that is.

850
00:38:21.505 --> 00:38:24.605
We have, I that would be Jackie Ogden is a decompliance

851
00:38:24.605 --> 00:38:26.725
officer for District 11 right now. Okay.

852
00:38:27.025 --> 00:38:29.645
And another question is, has anything ever gone to court?

853
00:38:29.645 --> 00:38:32.525
Have we, have we sent anything to court from this district

854
00:38:33.105 --> 00:38:34.165
To court? No. No,

855
00:38:34.185 --> 00:38:35.185
No. Well, because in

856
00:38:35.185 --> 00:38:36.805
this, I mean, it, one of the, one

857
00:38:36.805 --> 00:38:38.765
of the final, final things is that you,

858
00:38:38.825 --> 00:38:40.685
you can take the person to court if they,

859
00:38:40.825 --> 00:38:43.205
if they don't come into compliance.

860
00:38:45.145 --> 00:38:46.725
I'm just curious, has anybody ever have,

861
00:38:46.725 --> 00:38:47.965
have we ever taken anybody to court?

862
00:38:48.015 --> 00:38:49.725
Other districts? Yes. Other district,

863
00:38:49.725 --> 00:38:53.365
but not, your district is still somewhat in its infancy, uh,

864
00:38:53.545 --> 00:38:54.645
uh, with deed compliance.

865
00:38:54.825 --> 00:38:58.605
So your caseload, um, you have not had any

866
00:38:58.605 --> 00:39:00.845
that have gone to that extent.

867
00:39:01.235 --> 00:39:04.845
Okay. But we, I thought we had one that was, um, in front

868
00:39:04.845 --> 00:39:08.645
of, uh, adjudication, internal adjudication. Right,

869
00:39:08.975 --> 00:39:10.365
Right in front of the hearing

870
00:39:10.365 --> 00:39:11.645
officer, the hearing officer.

871
00:39:11.705 --> 00:39:13.885
Yes. But not actually go on to,

872
00:39:14.505 --> 00:39:15.645
To, uh, to, to the court.

873
00:39:15.705 --> 00:39:18.765
Yes. Yes. And I, and I had another question and,

874
00:39:18.825 --> 00:39:20.445
and I'm sorry for bringing this up,

875
00:39:20.585 --> 00:39:23.365
but, uh, under inspection on step two mm-hmm.

876
00:39:23.705 --> 00:39:26.605
It refers to the complainant, if known.

877
00:39:28.145 --> 00:39:31.205
So, uh, I, I guess, could you explain that to me?

878
00:39:31.585 --> 00:39:34.205
Why would, why would we not know who the complainant was?

879
00:39:34.785 --> 00:39:36.285
You allow for anonymous complaints.

880
00:39:37.145 --> 00:39:39.885
So a lot of times we don't know the information when

881
00:39:40.165 --> 00:39:41.685
somebody calls in a complaint.

882
00:39:44.785 --> 00:39:47.925
So I, I guess we could, we could, theoretically

883
00:39:48.745 --> 00:39:51.325
we could end up in front of a compliance officer

884
00:39:51.625 --> 00:39:56.325
and in fact, court and never know who the complainant was.

885
00:39:56.465 --> 00:39:58.325
Is that correct? Well,

886
00:39:58.325 --> 00:40:00.965
technically the complainant would be your department.

887
00:40:00.965 --> 00:40:03.525
Correct. Those anonymous go in

888
00:40:03.525 --> 00:40:06.205
and they represent So they're the complaint, correct?

889
00:40:06.425 --> 00:40:09.885
Yes. They filed the, on our behalf. Okay. Okay.

890
00:40:11.115 --> 00:40:13.485
Even if a complaint comes in, it may not be valid,

891
00:40:13.535 --> 00:40:16.365
staff may go out, or the compliance officer may go out

892
00:40:16.365 --> 00:40:18.005
and determine that it's a non-issue.

893
00:40:18.465 --> 00:40:22.565
If it is an issue, then staff, the district is taking action

894
00:40:22.565 --> 00:40:23.645
and becomes the complainant.

895
00:40:24.825 --> 00:40:26.485
See, that was a whole premise, fundamental premise

896
00:40:26.665 --> 00:40:28.885
of the anonymous complaint versus the person.

897
00:40:29.325 --> 00:40:30.605
'cause they say, well, I have a right

898
00:40:30.605 --> 00:40:31.805
to know who my accuser are.

899
00:40:31.805 --> 00:40:34.485
Well, the accuser is correct. Compliant.

900
00:40:34.745 --> 00:40:37.485
The compliance department, they're the accuser. Okay.

901
00:40:38.035 --> 00:40:40.605
They become the, they become, they become it.

902
00:40:40.865 --> 00:40:43.165
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

903
00:40:43.585 --> 00:40:47.685
And that takes, just as an aside, that also takes then

904
00:40:48.305 --> 00:40:50.765
the neighbors from pitting one neighbor against the other.

905
00:40:50.865 --> 00:40:53.365
And that, that was the whole philosophy of the anonymous,

906
00:40:53.475 --> 00:40:54.725
then it's, it's really the,

907
00:40:55.025 --> 00:40:56.845
the organization that's against them.

908
00:40:57.625 --> 00:40:59.645
So everything that we're voting on here today, does

909
00:40:59.645 --> 00:41:03.885
that sort of bring us into the same realm that all the other

910
00:41:04.545 --> 00:41:06.925
cdd between 4 66 and,

911
00:41:07.385 --> 00:41:11.645
or is this, are we totally, totally flying by, by the seat,

912
00:41:11.825 --> 00:41:14.605
by, are we totally different drummers here in the steel or?

913
00:41:15.625 --> 00:41:17.365
No, the neat and clean aspect has been

914
00:41:17.365 --> 00:41:18.445
adopted by all districts.

915
00:41:18.445 --> 00:41:20.285
Mm-hmm. All districts that have, that are eligible

916
00:41:20.285 --> 00:41:23.045
to enforce external deed restrictions have

917
00:41:23.045 --> 00:41:24.725
adopted this into their rule.

918
00:41:24.875 --> 00:41:26.445
Okay. With the exception of 11,

919
00:41:27.115 --> 00:41:28.365
Because you're hearing it today?

920
00:41:28.385 --> 00:41:29.565
Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes.

921
00:41:29.825 --> 00:41:30.885
So district six

922
00:41:30.885 --> 00:41:34.085
and 11, if you are on an abbreviated meeting schedule Yes.

923
00:41:34.265 --> 00:41:35.365
You're hearing it this month.

924
00:41:35.545 --> 00:41:37.245
So there's a handful,

925
00:41:37.405 --> 00:41:39.565
I think four districts that heard it this month. Okay.

926
00:41:40.055 --> 00:41:41.645
Thank you. And, and,

927
00:41:41.665 --> 00:41:45.805
and my understanding on this too is if you get called

928
00:41:46.025 --> 00:41:49.405
by a specific incident at the, at the residence, like

929
00:41:49.955 --> 00:41:53.205
whether it be overgrown shrubs or whatever that is,

930
00:41:53.545 --> 00:41:56.125
and we're giving you the latitude to look around to see

931
00:41:56.125 --> 00:41:59.445
what other things you find in that proximity. Correct.

932
00:41:59.825 --> 00:42:02.565
It when it's in regards to the general maintenance,

933
00:42:02.565 --> 00:42:03.605
the neat and clean Yes.

934
00:42:03.625 --> 00:42:06.045
Yes. So yes. If it, you know, we get a call

935
00:42:06.065 --> 00:42:07.205
for overgrown shrubs.

936
00:42:07.205 --> 00:42:09.125
We're gonna look for grass, overgrown grass.

937
00:42:09.135 --> 00:42:11.645
We're gonna look for weeds. We're gonna look for mold. Yeah.

938
00:42:11.735 --> 00:42:13.605
We're gonna look for landscaping debris

939
00:42:13.785 --> 00:42:15.205
and, uh, rogue vine growth.

940
00:42:15.505 --> 00:42:17.125
So yes, we're gonna look at all of that,

941
00:42:17.385 --> 00:42:20.725
and that way we can, um, start off

942
00:42:20.835 --> 00:42:22.805
with everything, all the violations.

943
00:42:23.135 --> 00:42:26.685
We're trying to eliminate it to where we get the call

944
00:42:26.685 --> 00:42:27.725
for the overgrown shrubs.

945
00:42:27.785 --> 00:42:29.245
Two weeks later, a neighbor calls in

946
00:42:29.245 --> 00:42:30.365
and says there's mold on the home.

947
00:42:30.505 --> 00:42:32.485
We just wanna address it all within that,

948
00:42:32.635 --> 00:42:34.045
that one, that first visit.

949
00:42:36.265 --> 00:42:37.645
It doesn't go as broad as

950
00:42:38.075 --> 00:42:40.645
what we just talked about on the lighting.

951
00:42:41.085 --> 00:42:42.085
'cause this is, this is neat and

952
00:42:42.085 --> 00:42:43.125
clean. This is different. Correct.

953
00:42:43.315 --> 00:42:45.845
Correct. Although it would seem to be that if,

954
00:42:45.905 --> 00:42:47.645
if you went in and looked at the lighting,

955
00:42:47.705 --> 00:42:48.965
you found something else in there,

956
00:42:49.425 --> 00:42:50.685
you're saying you wouldn't be able

957
00:42:50.685 --> 00:42:52.125
to address that. Correct.

958
00:42:53.035 --> 00:42:55.005
Because the original complaint wasn't

959
00:42:55.005 --> 00:42:56.165
something under the neat and clean,

960
00:42:57.775 --> 00:43:02.025
However, so it's, it's,

961
00:43:02.025 --> 00:43:05.865
it's interesting that the deton clean encompasses the entire

962
00:43:06.305 --> 00:43:08.865
property and the landscape lighting does not.

963
00:43:10.725 --> 00:43:12.425
So when you go to, when you go

964
00:43:12.425 --> 00:43:15.425
to inspect the landscape lighting period, that's it.

965
00:43:15.425 --> 00:43:17.145
That's, that's the only thing you look at.

966
00:43:17.365 --> 00:43:18.945
And I, and I'm not, I mean,

967
00:43:18.945 --> 00:43:20.345
this is, I don't have a problem with that.

968
00:43:20.485 --> 00:43:22.585
I'm just trying to, trying to work through

969
00:43:22.765 --> 00:43:24.025
how the whole thing Yeah.

970
00:43:24.325 --> 00:43:26.825
The process works. And, and,

971
00:43:26.845 --> 00:43:30.625
and it'd be like if somebody had a statue that you went in

972
00:43:30.625 --> 00:43:33.105
and looked at and it was, it was, it was quite,

973
00:43:33.105 --> 00:43:35.625
and then you had tripped over all this other stuff, you say,

974
00:43:35.625 --> 00:43:36.665
well, I can't do anything about

975
00:43:36.665 --> 00:43:37.705
the stuff I just tripped over.

976
00:43:37.865 --> 00:43:39.825
I can only deal with the statute. Right.

977
00:43:40.405 --> 00:43:41.405
Is that the way that would work?

978
00:43:42.935 --> 00:43:45.185
Yeah. Yes. If say it was called in for lawn

979
00:43:45.185 --> 00:43:46.265
and ornaments, then they would

980
00:43:46.265 --> 00:43:47.345
just be addressing lawn ornaments.

981
00:43:47.345 --> 00:43:48.465
Yeah. Particular one, not,

982
00:43:48.465 --> 00:43:49.465
Not correct. They wouldn't

983
00:43:49.465 --> 00:43:50.905
be addressing the overgrown grass in the we.

984
00:43:50.905 --> 00:43:52.145
Yeah. I think it should be more broader, but,

985
00:43:53.805 --> 00:43:55.265
And is that the best way to have it?

986
00:43:56.855 --> 00:43:58.985
Otherwise the person inspecting

987
00:43:59.525 --> 00:44:00.665
Yes. Could kind of go

988
00:44:00.865 --> 00:44:03.585
Crazy, maybe open it up to abuse?

989
00:44:03.885 --> 00:44:07.105
Or do we want them to have the authority to

990
00:44:07.495 --> 00:44:08.495
Yeah, I don't know.

991
00:44:08.805 --> 00:44:10.105
To me, it, it seems control.

992
00:44:10.205 --> 00:44:12.305
If there's other things that are violating right there that,

993
00:44:12.305 --> 00:44:14.105
you know, why wouldn't you just bring it up

994
00:44:14.105 --> 00:44:16.025
and say, there's some other violations on this thing,

995
00:44:16.025 --> 00:44:18.345
but you don't run into that by Shannon? I mean,

996
00:44:18.345 --> 00:44:19.345
It's a new rule. We

997
00:44:19.345 --> 00:44:22.345
just passed, so we've just started Okay.

998
00:44:22.535 --> 00:44:24.185
With it, with the other district.

999
00:44:24.285 --> 00:44:27.585
So as of right now, we haven't received any type of issues.

1000
00:44:27.585 --> 00:44:28.185
Okay. Okay.

1001
00:44:32.915 --> 00:44:35.445
Okay. So, um, any other questions here?

1002
00:44:35.445 --> 00:44:39.005
And then I've gotta open up the public hearing. Okay.

1003
00:44:39.065 --> 00:44:41.605
No questions. So, so we're gonna, we're gonna open it up to,

1004
00:44:41.625 --> 00:44:44.645
uh, um, formally for an open public hearing.

1005
00:44:45.905 --> 00:44:48.405
And, uh, and there's none noted.

1006
00:44:48.425 --> 00:44:50.125
So we will close the public hearing,

1007
00:44:51.465 --> 00:44:54.245
and, uh, now we have to look for an, uh, a motion

1008
00:44:54.345 --> 00:44:57.445
to adoption of 20 26 0 2, amending

1009
00:44:57.445 --> 00:44:58.605
and restating the district rule

1010
00:44:58.605 --> 00:44:59.925
to bring about deed compliance.

1011
00:45:01.685 --> 00:45:06.085
I make a motion that we adopt 26 0, 20 26 0 2,

1012
00:45:06.195 --> 00:45:09.165
restating the district's rule to bring the vote compliance.

1013
00:45:10.225 --> 00:45:13.885
Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays?

1014
00:45:14.075 --> 00:45:15.885
Okay. No nay. Thank you. Board. Thank you.

1015
00:45:15.885 --> 00:45:20.565
Thank you very much. Okay. Anything on old business?

1016
00:45:21.585 --> 00:45:23.805
Um, yes. There were two items on old business.

1017
00:45:24.065 --> 00:45:26.005
Um, one was pertaining to

1018
00:45:27.025 --> 00:45:29.685
if district vendors are maintaining any preserve areas

1019
00:45:29.685 --> 00:45:31.445
through spraying or other maintenance.

1020
00:45:31.945 --> 00:45:33.925
Um, only our environmental contractor,

1021
00:45:33.935 --> 00:45:35.805
which is Breedlove Dentist and Associates,

1022
00:45:35.825 --> 00:45:37.325
or BDA, is their acronym.

1023
00:45:37.905 --> 00:45:39.565
Um, they're allowed to spray nuisance

1024
00:45:39.565 --> 00:45:41.565
and invasive vegetation per state permit.

1025
00:45:42.185 --> 00:45:45.045
So that's the only action that's being taken, uh,

1026
00:45:45.145 --> 00:45:46.165
in the preserve areas.

1027
00:45:46.995 --> 00:45:50.365
Okay. The other item on old business is that, um,

1028
00:45:50.905 --> 00:45:52.045
at this meeting, Mr.

1029
00:45:52.075 --> 00:45:55.165
Brianna was gonna follow up pertaining to enforcement

1030
00:45:55.165 --> 00:45:56.845
of age related deed restrictions.

1031
00:45:57.345 --> 00:45:58.765
Um, I'll defer to the board if

1032
00:45:58.765 --> 00:45:59.925
you'd like to hear that information.

1033
00:46:00.155 --> 00:46:01.525
I'll tell you that all the, uh,

1034
00:46:02.105 --> 00:46:04.965
all the other boards throughout the community have declined

1035
00:46:05.225 --> 00:46:09.005
to, um, take any action pertaining to that.

1036
00:46:10.825 --> 00:46:12.565
And we agreed to talk about it.

1037
00:46:12.895 --> 00:46:15.885
Which, which all the, the districts agreed to do that,

1038
00:46:15.985 --> 00:46:17.365
and then make a decision on that.

1039
00:46:17.765 --> 00:46:19.285
I mean, I think that's what the process was.

1040
00:46:19.965 --> 00:46:24.525
I think they agreed to most agreed to hear it. Yeah.

1041
00:46:24.525 --> 00:46:26.325
That's not really talk about it's you said

1042
00:46:26.325 --> 00:46:27.485
that's exactly what I was gonna say.

1043
00:46:27.485 --> 00:46:30.525
Yeah. Yeah. Because we agreed to hear it, but we wanted,

1044
00:46:30.585 --> 00:46:33.125
and everybody else has declined to Yeah.

1045
00:46:33.675 --> 00:46:35.725
Take action. The issue right now, it's, it's under the,

1046
00:46:35.725 --> 00:46:39.005
under the auspice of the, of the developer to, to,

1047
00:46:39.145 --> 00:46:40.605
to basically address it

1048
00:46:42.545 --> 00:46:45.885
Or individual property owners as a party to the contract

1049
00:46:46.225 --> 00:46:47.805
Or the individual property owners, right?

1050
00:46:47.805 --> 00:46:50.565
Yes. Versus versus the district. Yes.

1051
00:46:51.785 --> 00:46:52.965
So how do you guys feel about that?

1052
00:46:53.385 --> 00:46:56.005
Why do we want to be in that game? That that's the point.

1053
00:46:56.035 --> 00:46:57.035
Yeah.

1054
00:46:59.385 --> 00:47:00.445
Second. Okay.

1055
00:47:01.225 --> 00:47:04.165
So I would urge not to be in that game if, if,

1056
00:47:04.225 --> 00:47:06.245
if we're looking for something to, well, yeah,

1057
00:47:06.245 --> 00:47:07.645
and I think that's, I wanted

1058
00:47:07.645 --> 00:47:08.925
to make sure we're all aligned on that.

1059
00:47:09.115 --> 00:47:11.525
Okay. So we have to have a motion on that or what? No,

1060
00:47:11.945 --> 00:47:13.245
No. We'll remove that from old

1061
00:47:13.405 --> 00:47:14.405
Division. So just remove, remove

1062
00:47:14.405 --> 00:47:15.765
that. Okay. Okay.

1063
00:47:18.475 --> 00:47:20.365
Okay. Anything else on old business?

1064
00:47:20.545 --> 00:47:22.725
No, that Concludes old. So next month on old business,

1065
00:47:22.735 --> 00:47:23.765
we'll have, we'll have

1066
00:47:23.795 --> 00:47:25.405
what we just talked about today on

1067
00:47:25.405 --> 00:47:26.485
the old business for January.

1068
00:47:27.955 --> 00:47:29.645
Well, you'll actually have a new business item,

1069
00:47:29.655 --> 00:47:32.405
which will be to authorize the amendment and restatement

1070
00:47:32.825 --> 00:47:37.245
and to discuss what that content would look like. Okay.

1071
00:47:37.395 --> 00:47:38.845
Good. Good. Okay. Good.

1072
00:47:40.065 --> 00:47:41.245
So I guess that's a good time

1073
00:47:41.425 --> 00:47:43.085
to talk about whether we even want to do that

1074
00:47:44.295 --> 00:47:47.045
after finding out that the matrix does have language in

1075
00:47:47.285 --> 00:47:50.005
there to permit the enforcement of these lights,

1076
00:47:50.065 --> 00:47:51.405
if they're causing a nuisance.

1077
00:47:52.355 --> 00:47:54.725
What would happen, or what's gonna happen now is

1078
00:47:55.475 --> 00:47:57.285
deed compliance will send somebody out there

1079
00:47:57.385 --> 00:47:59.125
to verify this is happening.

1080
00:47:59.745 --> 00:48:01.765
If it is, they'll start the deed compliance process.

1081
00:48:02.315 --> 00:48:04.845
They'll end up in front of Judge Neal if they don't stop

1082
00:48:04.845 --> 00:48:06.445
using the lights in that manner.

1083
00:48:06.825 --> 00:48:07.885
And Judge Neal will have

1084
00:48:07.885 --> 00:48:09.845
to decide whether the lights the way they're being

1085
00:48:09.875 --> 00:48:11.205
used are a nuisance or not.

1086
00:48:12.105 --> 00:48:15.125
Um, I think she's fully capable of making that decision.

1087
00:48:15.225 --> 00:48:17.645
She was a judge. Um, so

1088
00:48:17.645 --> 00:48:19.565
that's one way we can just leave it the way it is.

1089
00:48:19.665 --> 00:48:22.885
Or if you'd like, we can create a definition of

1090
00:48:22.885 --> 00:48:26.845
what a nuisance is, and then amend the standards,

1091
00:48:26.965 --> 00:48:29.965
I believe are what define certain terms like law

1092
00:48:29.965 --> 00:48:31.085
ornaments and things like that.

1093
00:48:31.745 --> 00:48:34.085
We can define nuisance and give it to Judge Neil

1094
00:48:34.085 --> 00:48:36.125
and say, this is what we find as nuisance.

1095
00:48:36.905 --> 00:48:38.845
Do the lights as they're being used,

1096
00:48:38.845 --> 00:48:39.925
meet that definition or not?

1097
00:48:40.425 --> 00:48:42.765
So those are the two different ways we can handle it.

1098
00:48:42.905 --> 00:48:45.005
We can do nothing and let her deal with it,

1099
00:48:45.345 --> 00:48:46.805
or we can give her a definition

1100
00:48:46.825 --> 00:48:50.085
and say, this is, um, what we've decided is a nuisance.

1101
00:48:50.935 --> 00:48:52.745
Look at the evidence and let us know what you think.

1102
00:48:55.605 --> 00:48:58.545
What's the thoughts? Can we, as the board, I'm sorry.

1103
00:48:58.965 --> 00:49:01.025
No, go ahead. Go ahead. Can we as a board

1104
00:49:02.255 --> 00:49:03.985
make the definition of nuisance

1105
00:49:04.125 --> 00:49:07.145
or does it have to be community? You know?

1106
00:49:07.445 --> 00:49:09.385
Oh, we can make it, we can make that. Okay.

1107
00:49:10.085 --> 00:49:12.465
We can do it in, in most cases, if we do it,

1108
00:49:12.475 --> 00:49:14.385
other districts will follow the same way

1109
00:49:15.005 --> 00:49:16.225
we just did with this other rule.

1110
00:49:16.655 --> 00:49:17.985
Well, I, I think we've got a couple

1111
00:49:17.985 --> 00:49:19.185
things in play right now.

1112
00:49:19.765 --> 00:49:22.745
We know they're gonna go out and, and review the property

1113
00:49:24.005 --> 00:49:26.225
and, and then by January we'll know

1114
00:49:26.655 --> 00:49:28.745
what issues have been raised and,

1115
00:49:28.845 --> 00:49:30.945
and where they're having difficulty with,

1116
00:49:31.085 --> 00:49:32.785
or they're making a lot of success.

1117
00:49:32.785 --> 00:49:34.745
Then we'll come in and bring it back to the table.

1118
00:49:34.765 --> 00:49:36.465
If we've gotta put some further definitions on it,

1119
00:49:36.695 --> 00:49:39.025
then we can talk about that in the January meeting

1120
00:49:39.605 --> 00:49:41.865
and then create the public, uh, meeting.

1121
00:49:41.885 --> 00:49:44.665
And then we'll get it kind of memorialized. So

1122
00:49:44.665 --> 00:49:46.505
We can go ahead and add that then to the agenda,

1123
00:49:46.525 --> 00:49:48.185
and then we can decide in January whether you

1124
00:49:48.185 --> 00:49:49.625
want to make the change or not. Yeah,

1125
00:49:49.625 --> 00:49:50.625
I think we should do that.

1126
00:49:50.695 --> 00:49:52.785
Yeah, I like that. Okay. Okay.

1127
00:49:52.785 --> 00:49:56.025
Should, should we give, uh, uh, decompliance one of these,

1128
00:49:56.245 --> 00:49:57.985
uh, packets if of photos?

1129
00:49:58.415 --> 00:50:01.345
Because they don't, I mean, these are nighttime photos that,

1130
00:50:01.345 --> 00:50:02.345
that somebody took.

1131
00:50:02.965 --> 00:50:04.305
Yes. If I'll take a packet

1132
00:50:04.365 --> 00:50:06.745
and scan 'em in so that the board has a copy,

1133
00:50:06.845 --> 00:50:08.185
but we'll give those to the clerk

1134
00:50:08.245 --> 00:50:09.305
and to community standards.

1135
00:50:09.305 --> 00:50:11.905
Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you. You have extras.

1136
00:50:11.905 --> 00:50:14.665
I just give, can give this to more than what?

1137
00:50:16.185 --> 00:50:18.825
I don't, I don't need them because I don't need mine.

1138
00:50:20.145 --> 00:50:23.545
I just, okay. More pictures.

1139
00:50:25.815 --> 00:50:30.245
Okay. Um, the, the next item is, uh, I am, uh,

1140
00:50:30.665 --> 00:50:32.685
the next item is for informational only.

1141
00:50:32.865 --> 00:50:37.805
Any questions or comments on the, uh, on, on the financials

1142
00:50:37.805 --> 00:50:42.245
or the DPM report or, um, or, um, or the deed?

1143
00:50:42.245 --> 00:50:45.045
There's a, a, a comp, uh, the deed compliance

1144
00:50:46.205 --> 00:50:47.445
statistics that were there.

1145
00:50:48.585 --> 00:50:52.405
And then, um, the other one was village, uh, uh,

1146
00:50:53.105 --> 00:50:54.885
is District 11 public hearing updates.

1147
00:50:54.985 --> 00:50:56.325
Is there any questions or comments

1148
00:50:56.325 --> 00:50:57.365
on that that we need to cover?

1149
00:50:58.275 --> 00:51:01.965
Okay. All right. Okay.

1150
00:51:02.315 --> 00:51:04.325
Then we'll go to, uh, district management report.

1151
00:51:04.385 --> 00:51:06.565
Uh, manager reports, community standards.

1152
00:51:07.065 --> 00:51:08.365
Yes. Good afternoon. Board members.

1153
00:51:08.385 --> 00:51:09.965
So I do have two items today.

1154
00:51:10.025 --> 00:51:12.565
Um, the first is to introduce Mr. Johnny Bishop,

1155
00:51:13.095 --> 00:51:14.525
who's sitting at the back table.

1156
00:51:14.995 --> 00:51:17.645
Welcome. Um, Mr. Bishop, um, joined our team

1157
00:51:17.785 --> 00:51:19.805
as the Executive director of support services.

1158
00:51:20.265 --> 00:51:22.525
Um, so district property management, fleet

1159
00:51:22.645 --> 00:51:25.125
and asset management all fall under his portfolio.

1160
00:51:25.825 --> 00:51:28.205
Um, he comes with a wealth of experience from the Sumter,

1161
00:51:28.225 --> 00:51:32.685
or excuse me, the Citrus County School Board as the, um,

1162
00:51:32.715 --> 00:51:33.725
executive director

1163
00:51:33.725 --> 00:51:38.165
and also serving in the role of, um, deputy superintendent.

1164
00:51:38.465 --> 00:51:40.125
So we're happy to have him on the team

1165
00:51:40.145 --> 00:51:43.045
and you'll see more of him moving forward.

1166
00:51:44.325 --> 00:51:47.945
Um, the next item is I'll invite Ms. Boyd, um, back up

1167
00:51:47.945 --> 00:51:52.825
to the podium to provide an overview

1168
00:51:52.825 --> 00:51:55.425
of a new software platform that we're implementing.

1169
00:51:55.535 --> 00:51:59.065
Okay. Good afternoon again, Shannon Boyd.

1170
00:51:59.065 --> 00:52:00.545
Community Standards. Um,

1171
00:52:00.545 --> 00:52:02.385
so I'm gonna tell you a little bit about Gov Built,

1172
00:52:02.385 --> 00:52:03.665
which is gonna be our new system

1173
00:52:03.665 --> 00:52:05.185
that Community Standards is getting.

1174
00:52:05.845 --> 00:52:08.025
So what, excuse me, what Gov builts going

1175
00:52:08.025 --> 00:52:12.345
to do is it's going to make it modern a digital system.

1176
00:52:12.595 --> 00:52:14.025
Right now everything is paper.

1177
00:52:14.125 --> 00:52:15.785
All our a RC applications are paper,

1178
00:52:16.205 --> 00:52:18.065
that's 13,000 applications.

1179
00:52:18.325 --> 00:52:21.185
We process a year paper applications.

1180
00:52:21.525 --> 00:52:25.385
So this is going to allow residents to, uh,

1181
00:52:25.445 --> 00:52:29.065
submit their applications online along with their documents,

1182
00:52:29.605 --> 00:52:32.425
and then they're actually able to follow along with it

1183
00:52:32.425 --> 00:52:33.665
to see where it is in the process.

1184
00:52:34.015 --> 00:52:36.305
They can see it's submitted, they can see it's reviewed,

1185
00:52:36.305 --> 00:52:38.105
they're gonna know what date it was reviewed.

1186
00:52:38.175 --> 00:52:40.265
They're gonna get it emailed to them as soon

1187
00:52:40.265 --> 00:52:42.105
as it was either approved or denied.

1188
00:52:42.175 --> 00:52:43.905
It's gonna get sent immediately to them.

1189
00:52:44.485 --> 00:52:47.585
Um, so when a resident does go on the website

1190
00:52:47.645 --> 00:52:50.265
and wants to fill out the An A RC application,

1191
00:52:50.455 --> 00:52:52.385
it's gonna look just like our paper application.

1192
00:52:52.645 --> 00:52:55.025
So it's gonna look exactly the same, just they'll be able

1193
00:52:55.025 --> 00:52:56.745
to fill it out online.

1194
00:52:57.215 --> 00:52:59.345
It's gonna offer better communication, um,

1195
00:52:59.345 --> 00:53:01.385
between residents, contractors and staff

1196
00:53:01.415 --> 00:53:03.985
because they will be able to follow along with

1197
00:53:04.005 --> 00:53:06.065
and see where the status of their application is.

1198
00:53:06.565 --> 00:53:09.145
Um, it'll be centralized violation management,

1199
00:53:09.545 --> 00:53:11.305
'cause it does incorporate deed compliance

1200
00:53:11.325 --> 00:53:13.945
and architectural review deed compliance.

1201
00:53:13.965 --> 00:53:16.265
It helps us more on the backend, um,

1202
00:53:16.295 --> 00:53:19.465
with our letter generating and our processes as well.

1203
00:53:19.855 --> 00:53:22.385
There's a step-by-step system there.

1204
00:53:22.725 --> 00:53:25.805
Um, so this will unify the tracking of all complaints,

1205
00:53:25.915 --> 00:53:28.565
inspections and resolutions within one platform.

1206
00:53:29.145 --> 00:53:32.325
Um, right now we use separate files, folders,

1207
00:53:32.965 --> 00:53:34.365
multiple Microsoft platforms,

1208
00:53:34.505 --> 00:53:35.965
so this is all gonna be in one.

1209
00:53:36.305 --> 00:53:37.845
So we're really looking forward to that.

1210
00:53:38.185 --> 00:53:41.165
So it's gonna reduce technology fragmentation by

1211
00:53:41.725 --> 00:53:44.205
consolidating our needs all into one system.

1212
00:53:44.945 --> 00:53:47.965
And, and we hope it'll strengthen the internal efficiency

1213
00:53:48.095 --> 00:53:51.005
while improving service delivery to the community.

1214
00:53:51.345 --> 00:53:53.765
So we finished our training up about two weeks ago

1215
00:53:54.105 --> 00:53:56.485
and we plan on going live on December 1st.

1216
00:53:56.585 --> 00:53:58.965
So we are very excited for the software.

1217
00:53:59.505 --> 00:54:01.125
Um, we've been looking for software

1218
00:54:01.225 --> 00:54:04.365
for quite a few years now, so we're glad to be able to,

1219
00:54:04.705 --> 00:54:06.365
to be getting this rolling out soon.

1220
00:54:06.505 --> 00:54:07.805
So we'll be, um,

1221
00:54:07.805 --> 00:54:10.085
obviously staff will be there to help residents.

1222
00:54:10.085 --> 00:54:12.605
If there are any residents that maybe aren't that good

1223
00:54:12.605 --> 00:54:15.405
with the computer and need help filling out an application,

1224
00:54:15.865 --> 00:54:17.245
you know, they're more than welcome to come in.

1225
00:54:17.255 --> 00:54:18.845
Staff will help 'em walk 'em through,

1226
00:54:19.235 --> 00:54:21.165
fill out the application process with them.

1227
00:54:21.265 --> 00:54:23.285
So we'll still be there to help the residents.

1228
00:54:24.265 --> 00:54:26.725
And that system will handle attachments

1229
00:54:26.725 --> 00:54:28.285
because those are something you need.

1230
00:54:28.395 --> 00:54:30.205
Correct. It'll handle attachments

1231
00:54:30.225 --> 00:54:32.485
and that's one thing it'll make sure, dependent on

1232
00:54:32.485 --> 00:54:34.885
what your, uh, modification is,

1233
00:54:35.025 --> 00:54:36.805
if say a site plan is required

1234
00:54:36.985 --> 00:54:38.845
or elevation drawing is required,

1235
00:54:39.315 --> 00:54:41.045
it's gonna require that you submit that.

1236
00:54:41.105 --> 00:54:44.845
So we're not gonna get incomplete applications as well.

1237
00:54:44.985 --> 00:54:46.005
So it's gonna be nice.

1238
00:54:46.185 --> 00:54:48.685
And there is actually a mobile app for it to

1239
00:54:48.685 --> 00:54:51.565
where people can say they take pictures with their phone,

1240
00:54:51.715 --> 00:54:52.885
they could do the application

1241
00:54:52.885 --> 00:54:54.445
and then take the pictures that they took on their

1242
00:54:54.445 --> 00:54:55.965
phone and upload it there.

1243
00:54:55.965 --> 00:54:58.445
Okay. So I think that'll be very helpful as well. Okay.

1244
00:54:58.625 --> 00:54:59.725
So we're looking forward to it.

1245
00:54:59.875 --> 00:55:01.285
Okay. Okay. Thank

1246
00:55:01.285 --> 00:55:02.285
You. Thank you.

1247
00:55:02.285 --> 00:55:05.525
Maybe when you get this, um, up

1248
00:55:05.525 --> 00:55:07.405
and running, you can show a little demo for us.

1249
00:55:08.275 --> 00:55:12.005
Okay. I'd like to see that. Two weeks in two weeks.

1250
00:55:12.665 --> 00:55:16.725
She said December 1st. Okay. Um, anything else?

1251
00:55:17.465 --> 00:55:19.205
No, that concludes Management report.

1252
00:55:19.675 --> 00:55:21.485
Mark, you have something? Just eight B

1253
00:55:21.505 --> 00:55:22.685
We already went over eight A.

1254
00:55:22.695 --> 00:55:25.325
Eight B is, uh, just to let you know that we're going

1255
00:55:25.325 --> 00:55:27.805
to be adding some, uh, paragraph to our orders

1256
00:55:27.865 --> 00:55:30.805
of enforcement going forward that will give the,

1257
00:55:31.405 --> 00:55:33.965
I guess in this case, the hearing master, the ability

1258
00:55:34.065 --> 00:55:37.325
to rehear a case if this board finds out,

1259
00:55:37.505 --> 00:55:40.005
or community standards finds out that some testimony

1260
00:55:40.005 --> 00:55:43.125
or evidence that was provided at a, at a hearing in front

1261
00:55:43.125 --> 00:55:45.965
of the special, uh, magistrate was incorrect, wrong,

1262
00:55:46.105 --> 00:55:47.605
or, uh, flat out a lie.

1263
00:55:48.305 --> 00:55:49.925
Um, there's gonna be a process

1264
00:55:50.065 --> 00:55:53.805
and the new order of enforcement where the judge can rehear

1265
00:55:53.805 --> 00:55:56.405
that case and, um, exclude that evidence

1266
00:55:56.425 --> 00:55:58.565
and testimony to possibly change

1267
00:55:58.585 --> 00:55:59.645
the outcome of that hearing.

1268
00:56:00.785 --> 00:56:02.285
Is that something we have to approve

1269
00:56:02.395 --> 00:56:04.245
that change mark, or is that just

1270
00:56:04.675 --> 00:56:05.675
Part the process? No,

1271
00:56:05.675 --> 00:56:07.365
it's just something that we're gonna start putting in

1272
00:56:07.365 --> 00:56:08.565
the order of enforcement going forward.

1273
00:56:08.955 --> 00:56:13.885
Okay. Okay. Anything else? That's it. That's it.

1274
00:56:14.155 --> 00:56:16.005
Okay. Alright.

1275
00:56:16.345 --> 00:56:19.005
Um, I can give you, uh, a quick update

1276
00:56:19.005 --> 00:56:22.085
before we go around to the supervisory comments just of, uh,

1277
00:56:23.245 --> 00:56:24.365
a project wide committee.

1278
00:56:24.465 --> 00:56:27.125
The biggest issue over the last couple months was the gates.

1279
00:56:27.385 --> 00:56:30.125
And, uh, as you probably all know, uh,

1280
00:56:30.615 --> 00:56:31.765
there was a joint meeting.

1281
00:56:32.225 --> 00:56:33.845
I'm trying to think about when, when I,

1282
00:56:33.875 --> 00:56:35.405
when we last updated you.

1283
00:56:35.445 --> 00:56:37.045
I think the joint meeting was in September.

1284
00:56:38.025 --> 00:56:41.085
So, uh, we haven't, we did meet in October.

1285
00:56:41.245 --> 00:56:44.085
I think we met after that. So you understand what happened?

1286
00:56:44.085 --> 00:56:47.245
It was a, a c and PA got together.

1287
00:56:47.615 --> 00:56:51.005
There was a, there was a, a, uh, proposal to spend three,

1288
00:56:51.055 --> 00:56:54.725
$3 million to change to long range readers.

1289
00:56:54.985 --> 00:56:57.645
And, um, both groups rejected that.

1290
00:56:58.465 --> 00:57:00.565
And as a result of that, there was other

1291
00:57:01.685 --> 00:57:05.685
consideration being expressed about changing the gates to go

1292
00:57:05.745 --> 00:57:09.165
to construction mode, automatically opening.

1293
00:57:09.825 --> 00:57:12.965
Um, that there was two facets, that's one facet of it.

1294
00:57:13.225 --> 00:57:15.405
And the other one was to get that, uh,

1295
00:57:15.535 --> 00:57:16.805
there was concerned about

1296
00:57:17.595 --> 00:57:20.725
what was happening at the pools on people coming in

1297
00:57:20.725 --> 00:57:22.805
and using the pools that weren't residents

1298
00:57:22.805 --> 00:57:24.685
and that was all kind of tied into

1299
00:57:24.685 --> 00:57:27.605
that long range reader project that would've been,

1300
00:57:28.305 --> 00:57:29.925
but the bottom line on all of that,

1301
00:57:30.025 --> 00:57:32.085
and we've had different, a couple meetings.

1302
00:57:32.085 --> 00:57:35.405
We've had people speak out on that one way

1303
00:57:35.405 --> 00:57:37.685
or the other on both of those, those avenues.

1304
00:57:37.745 --> 00:57:41.885
But where, where we ended up with it was the recommendation

1305
00:57:41.985 --> 00:57:46.765
by the committee was to have, um, construction mode, which

1306
00:57:48.225 --> 00:57:50.205
is really a safety violation

1307
00:57:50.425 --> 00:57:54.245
and, um, both, uh, risk management and, um,

1308
00:57:55.625 --> 00:57:59.685
and also, um, the, the, the police, um,

1309
00:57:59.985 --> 00:58:02.165
the sheriff's office was against that

1310
00:58:02.165 --> 00:58:04.125
because of the safety aspects of that.

1311
00:58:04.425 --> 00:58:06.525
And I can tell you that I spent time,

1312
00:58:06.705 --> 00:58:08.565
and I, I mentioned this in the meetings too,

1313
00:58:08.645 --> 00:58:10.085
I spent time at, at, at, uh,

1314
00:58:10.765 --> 00:58:13.325
Sawgrass when they put it on construction mode.

1315
00:58:13.325 --> 00:58:16.045
And it was a hazard down there for people just trying to get

1316
00:58:16.045 --> 00:58:20.605
through that, uh, as a golf cart across the road with,

1317
00:58:20.605 --> 00:58:22.005
with it being on construction mode.

1318
00:58:22.205 --> 00:58:23.845
'cause the cars were just flying right through it.

1319
00:58:24.425 --> 00:58:26.125
And that's, there's a whole purpose of that

1320
00:58:26.225 --> 00:58:27.405
and it's part of the deed.

1321
00:58:27.545 --> 00:58:30.045
And the attorneys were very, um, Kevin Stone,

1322
00:58:30.265 --> 00:58:33.525
the attorney on the project wide said, you know, you,

1323
00:58:33.585 --> 00:58:35.965
you bought into this thing in this kind

1324
00:58:35.965 --> 00:58:37.925
of structure when you did this decompliance

1325
00:58:38.025 --> 00:58:40.205
and it would be kind of a, a violation of

1326
00:58:40.205 --> 00:58:41.445
what we had agreed to do.

1327
00:58:41.585 --> 00:58:45.645
So bottom line is, is, um, uh, we talked about that again

1328
00:58:45.865 --> 00:58:48.245
and the construction mode was, was knocked out

1329
00:58:48.305 --> 00:58:50.325
and said we can't do the construction mode.

1330
00:58:51.295 --> 00:58:53.955
And, um, and then, then the other idea is, well,

1331
00:58:53.955 --> 00:58:57.195
can you do the timing of this thing and time it, and they,

1332
00:58:57.195 --> 00:58:59.555
and you get kind of into that quasi,

1333
00:58:59.555 --> 00:59:00.835
whether it's construction modes.

1334
00:59:00.835 --> 00:59:01.915
Well, the bottom line is,

1335
00:59:01.915 --> 00:59:04.195
after all these discussions we've had in the last two

1336
00:59:04.195 --> 00:59:06.075
meetings about this is we're,

1337
00:59:06.075 --> 00:59:09.275
we're not gonna do anything relating to changing the gates.

1338
00:59:09.275 --> 00:59:11.275
We spent a lot of money already in the gates already.

1339
00:59:11.455 --> 00:59:13.635
So it's not like we didn't put money into

1340
00:59:13.635 --> 00:59:14.755
that investment into it.

1341
00:59:15.375 --> 00:59:18.355
Um, the other thing was, um, the,

1342
00:59:18.495 --> 00:59:20.555
the recreation department is going

1343
00:59:20.555 --> 00:59:24.485
to be doing some checking on, on the pools to try

1344
00:59:24.485 --> 00:59:27.605
to get some data together on any violations in those areas

1345
00:59:27.705 --> 00:59:30.805
and report back to the project wide committee on

1346
00:59:31.035 --> 00:59:32.245
what their findings are.

1347
00:59:32.945 --> 00:59:35.845
Um, but they're trying to do some random spot checks on,

1348
00:59:35.985 --> 00:59:37.085
on selected pools,

1349
00:59:37.185 --> 00:59:38.725
not letting people know when they're doing it

1350
00:59:38.745 --> 00:59:39.805
to get some data.

1351
00:59:40.405 --> 00:59:42.085
'cause we didn't have any data to support one way

1352
00:59:42.085 --> 00:59:43.405
or the other, to be honest with you.

1353
00:59:43.585 --> 00:59:46.205
So, so I mean, those, those were the, the big,

1354
00:59:46.305 --> 00:59:47.365
the big items, I mean,

1355
00:59:47.365 --> 00:59:50.125
other than agreeing on different contracts and everything,

1356
00:59:50.125 --> 00:59:54.285
but I think that was probably the slate of, um, of, uh,

1357
00:59:54.435 --> 00:59:55.445
what we talked about there.

1358
00:59:55.505 --> 00:59:59.685
And one other thing that we had was, um, the, um,

1359
01:00:00.545 --> 01:00:04.805
uh, the, the contractor who does the, the, um,

1360
01:00:05.275 --> 01:00:07.325
weed eradications around the pools

1361
01:00:07.325 --> 01:00:10.325
and area, we entered into a contractor with some concern

1362
01:00:10.325 --> 01:00:13.805
that the contractor that we entered into was one that we, we

1363
01:00:14.365 --> 01:00:16.805
rejected in the past only because of the price.

1364
01:00:17.705 --> 01:00:20.405
And now we found out the people that we had

1365
01:00:20.405 --> 01:00:23.045
before couldn't, couldn't do the job.

1366
01:00:23.745 --> 01:00:27.085
So we went back to them. They're kind of a nationwide thing.

1367
01:00:27.145 --> 01:00:29.525
So it's the idea they're gonna report back to us

1368
01:00:30.105 --> 01:00:32.765
in March on the performance of that organization.

1369
01:00:32.825 --> 01:00:34.805
So we're just trying to keep on top of that

1370
01:00:34.945 --> 01:00:36.965
to make sure they're doing the, the job correctly.

1371
01:00:37.065 --> 01:00:38.765
So that was one of the other items

1372
01:00:38.795 --> 01:00:40.005
that came out on this thing.

1373
01:00:40.065 --> 01:00:44.125
But, uh, other than that, um, those were kind

1374
01:00:44.125 --> 01:00:45.925
of the things were mentioned.

1375
01:00:46.665 --> 01:00:49.125
Um, I mean, other people were complaining about, um,

1376
01:00:50.575 --> 01:00:54.165
about golf cart speeding golf carts through the,

1377
01:00:54.165 --> 01:00:55.965
through the modal intermodal path.

1378
01:00:56.545 --> 01:00:59.685
Wanted to, wanted to use different mechanisms to,

1379
01:00:59.985 --> 01:01:01.245
to restrict that.

1380
01:01:01.385 --> 01:01:04.885
But that's, that doesn't seem to be, didn't gimme any,

1381
01:01:05.465 --> 01:01:06.565
any traction on that.

1382
01:01:06.705 --> 01:01:09.405
So, but those, those are kind of some

1383
01:01:09.405 --> 01:01:11.445
of the things I just try to summarize a couple months worth

1384
01:01:11.445 --> 01:01:16.005
of PW They were long meetings, but it's not like this.

1385
01:01:16.675 --> 01:01:19.725
Yeah. Any questions or comments from anybody? Okay.

1386
01:01:20.075 --> 01:01:21.645
None. Okay.

1387
01:01:21.675 --> 01:01:23.205
Yeah, for once, I do have a comment.

1388
01:01:24.065 --> 01:01:26.405
Um, I was waiting for the mob to leave

1389
01:01:26.995 --> 01:01:29.205
because I didn't wanna stir that pot anymore.

1390
01:01:29.985 --> 01:01:33.605
Um, I get the sense that they're skeptical as to our

1391
01:01:34.235 --> 01:01:35.565
sincere interest in this.

1392
01:01:36.225 --> 01:01:39.685
And if I were them, I might sympathize with that. Mm-hmm.

1393
01:01:40.065 --> 01:01:43.205
And I know the wheels of the mechanics

1394
01:01:43.205 --> 01:01:44.765
of all this process turn slowly,

1395
01:01:44.905 --> 01:01:49.365
but I sense that it could turn ugly uglier than the house

1396
01:01:49.435 --> 01:01:50.805
that we want to address.

1397
01:01:51.025 --> 01:01:53.965
But, you know, people get desperate

1398
01:01:53.965 --> 01:01:55.125
and they're gonna do stupid things.

1399
01:01:55.675 --> 01:01:58.645
Yeah. Um, and you might have combat on the street

1400
01:01:58.745 --> 01:02:01.405
or between homes and they're gonna take

1401
01:02:01.405 --> 01:02:02.565
matters in their own hands.

1402
01:02:02.705 --> 01:02:05.305
So I hope staff and this board

1403
01:02:05.325 --> 01:02:08.505
and whatever authorities we have, I hope we can move

1404
01:02:08.525 --> 01:02:09.705
as quickly as possible

1405
01:02:10.165 --> 01:02:13.585
and maybe communicate to any key people that reach out

1406
01:02:13.885 --> 01:02:16.985
and reassure 'em, we're gonna do this as quickly as we can,

1407
01:02:17.525 --> 01:02:22.485
but we've got things like a 45 day, uh, announcement period

1408
01:02:22.755 --> 01:02:23.755
Alright. For the

1409
01:02:23.755 --> 01:02:24.765
hearing and so on.

1410
01:02:25.385 --> 01:02:28.165
But, um, not to take our foot off the gas.

1411
01:02:28.965 --> 01:02:30.045
'cause if I was on that street,

1412
01:02:30.825 --> 01:02:32.325
I'd feel exactly the same way.

1413
01:02:32.395 --> 01:02:34.085
Yeah. I I, I have a lot of sympathy for

1414
01:02:34.085 --> 01:02:35.605
what they they're going through right now.

1415
01:02:35.735 --> 01:02:37.565
Right. And if someone's, you know,

1416
01:02:37.685 --> 01:02:39.765
gonna list their home Yeah. They're screwed.

1417
01:02:40.015 --> 01:02:41.485
Right. So, uh,

1418
01:02:41.585 --> 01:02:44.765
as their neighbors mm-hmm. I wanna help 'em.

1419
01:02:44.915 --> 01:02:47.125
Yeah. Well I think we, we've all agreed to do that.

1420
01:02:47.365 --> 01:02:48.885
I know they, I think everybody wanted

1421
01:02:48.885 --> 01:02:50.245
to get their 2 cents in on the thing,

1422
01:02:50.245 --> 01:02:51.245
even though we covered it once.

1423
01:02:51.705 --> 01:02:52.645
But that's okay. I mean,

1424
01:02:52.645 --> 01:02:53.965
they's, they wanted to get it off their

1425
01:02:53.965 --> 01:02:54.965
Chest. I'm glad you let

1426
01:02:54.965 --> 01:02:57.125
them all speak so that they know they were

1427
01:02:57.125 --> 01:02:58.125
Heard. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1428
01:02:58.125 --> 01:02:59.005
Okay.

1429
01:03:00.185 --> 01:03:01.365
And now I know I was heard.

1430
01:03:05.085 --> 01:03:07.175
Alright. Peter, do you have anything else?

1431
01:03:07.315 --> 01:03:09.935
Uh, you know, there's another, we have another one

1432
01:03:09.935 --> 01:03:12.295
of those issues and that's on Costco

1433
01:03:12.515 --> 01:03:16.855
and it's what the guy with the multiple flags that, uh, uh,

1434
01:03:17.035 --> 01:03:21.135
during the past election cycle, Uhhuh, uh, was,

1435
01:03:21.395 --> 01:03:22.415
was really offensive.

1436
01:03:23.075 --> 01:03:26.295
And, and I know that, uh, that, uh,

1437
01:03:27.135 --> 01:03:29.455
district government went there and inspected his house and,

1438
01:03:29.515 --> 01:03:31.095
and said there's nothing you can do.

1439
01:03:31.195 --> 01:03:32.895
But I, you know, this is, this,

1440
01:03:33.125 --> 01:03:34.935
this is a one off on Webster.

1441
01:03:35.195 --> 01:03:37.615
It happens to be a holiday flag in lighting thing,

1442
01:03:37.615 --> 01:03:38.695
but we've got this other guy

1443
01:03:38.995 --> 01:03:41.535
and he's a whack all over him, I think, uh,

1444
01:03:41.535 --> 01:03:43.935
because he's threatened some people, you know,

1445
01:03:44.595 --> 01:03:46.055
and I can't imagine having

1446
01:03:46.075 --> 01:03:48.215
to live across the street or next door to him.

1447
01:03:48.415 --> 01:03:50.135
I Yeah, that would be horrible. Yeah.

1448
01:03:50.235 --> 01:03:53.375
But anyway, that should be something that, that we're aware

1449
01:03:53.375 --> 01:03:55.215
of as we, as we move forward

1450
01:03:55.325 --> 01:03:56.895
with these rules and regulations.

1451
01:03:56.895 --> 01:03:58.655
Mm-hmm. And the enforcement side of it.

1452
01:03:59.455 --> 01:04:01.415
I don't want to enforce anything, quite frankly.

1453
01:04:01.615 --> 01:04:02.975
I don't think we should have to, but,

1454
01:04:03.035 --> 01:04:05.215
but we should have rules in place that will Right.

1455
01:04:05.215 --> 01:04:07.055
That will cover us if we need to. I agree.

1456
01:04:07.955 --> 01:04:11.935
And another, uh, another comment that I have is that,

1457
01:04:12.125 --> 01:04:15.455
that I'm enrolled in a program on Tuesdays, uh,

1458
01:04:15.675 --> 01:04:17.895
for four years at the University of Chicago.

1459
01:04:18.555 --> 01:04:22.815
And, and, uh, that ex I, I have to bow out

1460
01:04:22.815 --> 01:04:27.375
of this finance committee meeting on Tuesday mornings every

1461
01:04:27.375 --> 01:04:29.695
quarter that takes place at the Savannah Center.

1462
01:04:29.725 --> 01:04:32.255
It's just impossible for me, for me to make those.

1463
01:04:32.875 --> 01:04:36.295
So District 11 can't be, I'm, I'm not gonna be there

1464
01:04:36.295 --> 01:04:39.495
to represent this CDD 11 at those meetings.

1465
01:04:39.555 --> 01:04:42.935
So when the first five minutes I was in here,

1466
01:04:42.955 --> 01:04:44.975
Jan was gracious enough to say you're, it

1467
01:04:48.785 --> 01:04:49.855
being the new guy I am.

1468
01:04:49.855 --> 01:04:51.615
But unfortunately, I I I,

1469
01:04:51.855 --> 01:04:53.015
I don't wanna leave you high and dry.

1470
01:04:53.395 --> 01:04:56.735
Uh, but I, I just, I'm unable to make those, those Tuesday,

1471
01:04:57.345 --> 01:04:59.935
those that Tuesday, is it eight 30 in the morning?

1472
01:05:00.965 --> 01:05:05.555
9:00 AM 9:00 AM I those you know the ones I'm talking about?

1473
01:05:05.575 --> 01:05:07.435
No, I'm trying to figure out what you're talking iac.

1474
01:05:07.585 --> 01:05:09.355
Yeah, the quarterly I iac.

1475
01:05:09.895 --> 01:05:11.395
Oh, oh, you're talking about that?

1476
01:05:11.395 --> 01:05:13.915
The investment council meeting. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

1477
01:05:14.055 --> 01:05:17.245
I'm with you now. Okay, gotcha. Okay. So, so if

1478
01:05:17.485 --> 01:05:19.565
Somebody else would be gracious enough to, uh,

1479
01:05:19.865 --> 01:05:22.045
to be present at those, that would be wonderful.

1480
01:05:22.065 --> 01:05:24.565
And maybe it needs to be on the agenda for the,

1481
01:05:24.585 --> 01:05:26.245
for next month or the next meeting

1482
01:05:26.265 --> 01:05:27.265
Or whatever. Mm-hmm.

1483
01:05:27.265 --> 01:05:30.885
Can somebody, because you're a backup to Jan.

1484
01:05:31.275 --> 01:05:33.885
Well, I was not a backup. Oh, you're the primary one.

1485
01:05:33.885 --> 01:05:35.485
That's right. You're the primary.

1486
01:05:35.885 --> 01:05:37.965
'cause you were the primary before. That's right. Yeah.

1487
01:05:37.995 --> 01:05:39.125
Well, who, who is your backup?

1488
01:05:39.185 --> 01:05:40.445
Did we ever give you I don't have a backup.

1489
01:05:40.705 --> 01:05:44.965
We don't have a backup. Should have. Yeah. I nominate Jan.

1490
01:05:45.825 --> 01:05:48.205
Jan. You wanna do it? I'll do it. I'll be her backup.

1491
01:05:49.745 --> 01:05:51.485
We love you Jan. Wait, okay.

1492
01:05:51.485 --> 01:05:52.725
So you're gonna be a backup to

1493
01:05:52.725 --> 01:05:53.805
the backup, is that what you're saying?

1494
01:05:54.065 --> 01:05:56.445
No, she said she's gonna take it over and then,

1495
01:05:56.445 --> 01:05:57.805
and then you'll take it over and you'll be the backup.

1496
01:05:57.835 --> 01:06:00.165
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. That'll, that'll take care of that.

1497
01:06:00.165 --> 01:06:02.285
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I gotcha. I gotcha.

1498
01:06:03.745 --> 01:06:06.045
Um, Brittany doesn't, it's only aqua.

1499
01:06:06.075 --> 01:06:07.725
It's once a quarter. It's only once a quarter.

1500
01:06:08.105 --> 01:06:11.285
Mr. Chairman, if we can have a motion for, um,

1501
01:06:14.145 --> 01:06:16.045
Ms. Collins to be primary Ms.

1502
01:06:16.065 --> 01:06:17.725
Hoffey to be secondary. Sure.

1503
01:06:18.185 --> 01:06:21.365
Um, on for as the representation for your IAC.

1504
01:06:21.435 --> 01:06:25.765
Yeah, I would make that motion. We support that motion.

1505
01:06:25.765 --> 01:06:29.245
We have a second. Did we have a second? Yes. Okay.

1506
01:06:29.625 --> 01:06:33.125
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.

1507
01:06:33.125 --> 01:06:34.885
No opposed. I thought Peter

1508
01:06:34.885 --> 01:06:36.085
was gonna pose, but that's all right.

1509
01:06:36.145 --> 01:06:39.885
Yep. Okay. Okay.

1510
01:06:39.905 --> 01:06:41.685
So, so thank you for, for stepping up.

1511
01:06:41.805 --> 01:06:42.845
I just wanted, because it's only like,

1512
01:06:42.985 --> 01:06:44.725
it is only a quarter, it's not like every month.

1513
01:06:44.725 --> 01:06:47.885
So I did it. I know I did it before too, so. Okay, good.

1514
01:06:48.675 --> 01:06:53.005
I've done it. Okay. Alright. Okay. So is anything else?

1515
01:06:53.585 --> 01:06:56.965
Yep, that was set. Anything else? Motion to adjourn.

1516
01:06:57.245 --> 01:07:00.565
I second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay.

1517
01:07:00.565 --> 01:07:02.285
Meeting adjourn. Good job Mr.