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Good morning.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to wake everybody up with that.

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Um, welcome to the District five Board

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of Supervisors meeting.

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Uh, we always begin with our roll call of supervisors,

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supervisor Schweikert.

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Here, supervisor Noel.

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Here, supervisor Licey present, supervisor Martin Present.

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And I'm Gary Cato.

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Your chair today, uh, we begin with the Pledge

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of Allegiance, followed by a brief moment of silence.

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I would ask you and during the moment of silence,

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to keep in mind Mr. Gilbert Windsor, who was a supervisor,

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uh, district seven, who passed away last

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Monday, if you would.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag,

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the United States of America to the Republic,

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which stand stands.

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One Nation under God, individual

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with liberty, I justice for all.

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May be seated.

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Okay. I am amazed.

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We have quite a turnout today.

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A lot of familiar faces for a December meeting.

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We usually don't draw that many people in December

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with the holidays moving it up might

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have been a good idea after all.

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Uh, those of you that are new to our meetings,

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these meetings are resident meetings.

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Uh, we are elected by the residents within our district.

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When you come to the meeting, uh, you have a right

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to speak on any items that are on the agenda.

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Uh, if you wish to be recognized

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as we're talking about the particular item,

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please raise your hand, be recognized by the chair.

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At that point, you would then step to the podium,

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give us your name, give us your address.

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And normally we have about three minutes, uh, in replies.

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Uh, sometimes there are exceptions, which really rare.

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Uh, secondly, if it is not on the agenda

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and there's something you wish to talk about at the end

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of the meeting, anything can be discussed

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with your Board of supervisors.

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Again, same procedure, be recognized and step to the podium.

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But it's good to see so many people here today. Welcome.

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We begin today with the administration of offices,

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newly elected supervisors.

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We have three supervisors who are beginning new terms.

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Uh, uh, Mr. Jerry fei, Mr. Walter Martin, and Mr.

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Mark Schweikert. Congratulations, gentlemen. Very good.

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Seems like I've been around here for decades.

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I believe you have been there for decades.

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Mark knows new though.

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And who is gonna be administered in the oath. I can

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Administer the oath. So

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if you can please stand and raise your right hand.

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As a citizen of the state of Florida,

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United States of America,

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Being employed by,

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or an officer, a village community,

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developing district number five

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and a recipient of public funds,

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do you hereby solemnly swear

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or affirm that you support the Constitution

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of the United States and

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Of the state of Florida?

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I do. Okay. Thank you.

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Welcome for another four year term, guys ready to go.

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Okay. Next item on the agenda and nomination.

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Uh, as is the case, each time there is an election, we have

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to nominate again for chair of the supervisory board,

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vice chair, and also do our committee assignments.

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So we'd open up with, uh, chair and nominations for chair.

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I'll make a motion to nominate Gary Cato as chair

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and Mark Schweitzer as vice chair.

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Okay. Is there a second to that?

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I would second Gary Cadel.

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I can't necessarily second myself.

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Yeah, I don't think we could do two at once. Okay.

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Thank you. We can do one at a time, one at a time.

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Uh, do you wanna do ballot or open? You do either way.

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Just open or either open. You can just do it open.

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Uh, we'll limit the motion to, um, the chairman

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and then we'll take a motion for the vice chair.

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Okay. Uh, I have been nominated for chair.

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There's no other nominations. I'll second your nomination.

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Thank you. Appreciate that. Okay. All those in favor? Aye.

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Aye. So be it.

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Now we can take the nomination for the vice chair

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Nominations for vice chair

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Nominated Mark Schweitzer as vice chair.

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Okay. Mark, I know you're new,

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but you have, have had quite an impact.

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So, uh, I would second that. Okay.

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All those in any other nominations.

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All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Okay.

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Congratulations. Committee assignments,

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committees have functioned extremely well.

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Uh, we're pleased with that.

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I know, Walter, you've been handling our

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investment advisory committee.

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Yep. Uh, and have done an outstanding job.

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We've had a very good year, by the way, on our investments,

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which I'm sure you're all aware of.

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Very good year. Uh, PA,

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which is the Project Wide Advisory Committee.

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Pretty important committee.

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Um, we have two folks that have been covering that,

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which is, uh, Mr.

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Lesi, Jerry Lesi, and also Jerry Noel.

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Uh, you've been sharing that responsibility.

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Uh, are you willing to do that and continue with that? I am,

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Yes. I'll

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Continue. Okay. Walter,

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you also on your committee?

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Yeah, I don't think there's any other ones I can think of.

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Counselor, do you think of any other ones? We

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Do have the multimodal path Discussion group. Um,

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It's, it's a separate here though. It,

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It is. So yes. You'll,

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you'll identify

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Representation. Okay.

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So those are the committee assignments.

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All those in favor of keeping them the same.

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So you can by saying Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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That was easy. Okay. Thank you.

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Under new business, uh, we have approval

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of the minutes from our last meeting.

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All of you have received the package.

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Uh, for the audience's benefit,

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if it looks like we're running through quickly, it's

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because we get these about a week in advance.

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So we have time to study 'em, ask questions, meet

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with the admin if we need to.

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We're not just zipping through it.

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We know exactly what's in there.

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Uh, so as far as approval

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of the minutes, I know you read them.

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Any changes to the minutes? Any modifications, adjustments?

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Okay. We need a motion to accept the minutes. So moved.

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Second. The minutes. Be accept. Second. Okay.

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We have three seconds. Walter, you moved. Uh, get adopted.

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Mr. Noll, I think we're all set.

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We'll take you as our second on this. Okay.

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Minutes are approved. Um, now

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Mr. Chairman, we

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just need to call the vote on.

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Oh, vote we vote. I'm sorry guys. It's early morning.

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Okay. All those in favor

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of accepting the minutes signify by saying aye.

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Aye. Aye. Opposed? Sorry.

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Have a sick wife at home. Did not sleep last night.

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Very well. I'm referring. So. Okay.

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Board consideration Item two A.

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This is the adoption of resolution, uh, 2 25 dash two.

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Establishment participation

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of multimodal path Discussion group.

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There's a document including in there

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that explains the responsibilities, the frequency

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of the meetings, which would be three times a year.

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Uh, this proposed group, uh, mainly deals

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with safety on multimodal pass

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and make recommendations and suggestions.

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Does not have the power to enact

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because it is a total group representing

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many of the districts.

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I believe seven at this point. Am I correct on that? Cliff?

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All but two all but two. Okay.

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But again, act,

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any action on any recommendations from this group has

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to be approved by the district boards,

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individual district boards.

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That's where the authority lies.

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So you would get to approve anything that's suggested?

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Um, we need a motion whether to adopt this, correct?

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Yes. We would need a motion to adopt

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resolution 2025 dash two.

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Okay. Any discussion on this?

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Uh, just a refresher that the, uh,

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discuss discussion group will meet three times.

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Is that times a year the minimum,

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or is that the maximum three times a year?

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That is a recommendation.

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If we, we require an extra meeting, we could always schedule

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that, but I think

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that frequency would be acceptable the most.

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Okay. So we have a motion. We have a second.

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I'll second It. Okay. All those in favor?

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So signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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So moved. Next item on the agenda.

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Old business. Old business status update.

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Yes. Good Morning board.

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Um, there are two items on your old business tracking sheet.

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Um, the first is to track your deed compliance complaints

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for, um, a one year period.

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So that will continue to remain on old business.

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And you'll review that, um, in,

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at your November board meetings.

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Um, the second item was a review of the land

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landscaping concerns on Eagle Ridge Drive.

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Um, staff did receive the quotes from the contractor,

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um, late yesterday.

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Um, so there is a copy before you of that information.

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I have that. Um,

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and Mr. Wiley is here to, um,

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from district property management

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to address the two proposals, um, as well as, you know,

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staff's recommendation.

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Okay. Mr. Wiley,

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if you could introduce yourself and your title please.

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Good morning. Hersel Wiley,

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district Property Management Assistant Director.

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Morning sir. Morning sir.

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We did take a look, uh,

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a couple times here at the area in question.

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And we did have our landscaping contractor come out this

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week and give some proposals.

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One proposal was just to do the section with ground cover,

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which is not the original design intent, so

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that is not a recommendation.

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And the second proposal is to do the complete area

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on Mr. Schwartz property.

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And the neighbor, which is, um, 11,558.

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That would be, uh, that would require approval

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by the Landscaping Contra, um, landscaping engineer

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Michael Paper and Associates.

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That's, uh, over $11,000, 11,000 558 85

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to change that intent.

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Okay. After looking at both of these options

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and the original design intent, uh, the district

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and DPM would like to make the recommendation

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as we maintain it as is with the sod in place

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as the original design intent that is approved.

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Okay. And this is district property,

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not personal property of any residence?

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That is correct, sir. This is District five property. Okay.

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Uh, my understanding is both proposals were discussed.

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Yes, sir. You were instructed

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to go out and meet with the resident.

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Have you have done so? Yes, sir.

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Our supervising crew also met with Mr. Okay.

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Can you give me a thumbnail overview of how that went?

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Uh, from the feedback

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that I got yesterday, it didn't go very well.

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Uh, Mr. Schwartz became confrontational and very irritated.

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So I understand that the meeting was cut short

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and that was, uh, what took place.

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Okay. Uh, neighbor came out.

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There was loud talking profanity, things of that nature.

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The neighbor came out and wanted to know what was going on,

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and that's when the, the, uh,

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meeting was cut short with our staff.

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Okay. I have a reporter. I got on that already.

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I got it late last night, so I can see that in here. Okay.

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Um, board of supervisors,

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I know you did not get this quickly

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because it just came out about 5:00 PM last night.

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Uh, but it did come back.

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It basically said the exact same thing

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that was just reported to us.

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If you recall, in our last meeting, uh,

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there was a question regarding this.

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The fact that it is district property really puts it under

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total our total discretion as to what we do,

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how we do, or if we do anything.

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Uh, but normally we try

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and do everything we can to work with our residents.

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I recommended at that last meeting,

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that this meeting take place, look at different options,

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meet with the resident, uh,

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which I felt was a proper thing to do.

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Uh, my understanding is that did not go well,

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um, to say the least.

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And, uh, at this point, your recommendation is

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to leave it as is Correct, sir?

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As sir District property? Yes, sir.

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We maintain that the same way we do other properties.

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Yes, sir. Is that correct? As is. Okay.

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I know it's kind of new surprise to you guys.

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Any questions here? Any more information you need? No.

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I'm wondering why we wouldn't want to try

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to accommodate the, uh, the resident.

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We did, uh, we went out there with two proposals.

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Both were presented and both were rejected

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By the, by the, uh, homeowner.

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Yes. He is here today. Yes, sir.

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I I didn't hear that part. Well, we'll hear. Well, both

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Parts were rejected by the homeowner.

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So yes, the intent is to maintain the sod as is

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what we had recommended.

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The other option would be to install ground cover

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that requires no maintenance, very little maintenance.

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I'll correct that. There'll be no mowing, no weed eating.

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You know, the, the, the concern was scalping of the,

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of the sod that is there now.

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So, but that is not the design intent,

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I underst to Understand.

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Yes, sir. But I, if I recall, I think the initial

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complaint was that, uh, he, the homeowner

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complained about, uh,

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Wasn't maintained, Wasn't no, it wasn't maintained.

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But the weed wacker cut deeply into the side. Yes, sir.

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That was my understanding of the original complaint

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that they had scalped the district

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by property area cutting it too short, mowing it too short.

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Or they had scalped it with a weed eater,

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the landscaping contractor.

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Any other questions? Supervisor Wacker, Mr. Noll?

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Could I, could I ask how, how wide is this?

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No, I went out and looked at it.

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It seems like it's a pretty narrow area.

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It is a very small area.

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We're talking square foot and 150 square foot landscapers.

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The landscapers are usually cutting grass.

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The lawnmowers on our 36 48 inches. Correct.

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So I can see why they're not hitting that for the lawnmower.

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I believe that's, that's why they're using the weed eater.

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It's so small not to get their lawnmower in that area.

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And so a weed eater, it's really not designed ideal.

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Not a space.

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That's what'll be, when I looked at it,

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it seemed like it maybe a foot, maybe a foot and a half.

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It, it's a little, it's a little bigger than that.

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Um, speak to the mic.

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It, I, I see where the problem is

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because when they hit that with a weed whacker,

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they're not getting it smooth.

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And if I recall the homeowner was, uh,

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I'm trying to remember how he described himself,

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but he, he,

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he suggest we're gonna hear it from the homeowner.

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He's here today. He was a perfectionist

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and he thought it should look really nice the way

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he maintains his yard.

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Yes, sir. Um, so I can see where there might be a problem.

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Um, I'd like to hear from him.

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I, I, I've heard what you've said.

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I'd like to hear his side of it.

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Um, but you know, I did go out and look at it

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and it doesn't seem like it should be a

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big, big deal, Frank.

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No, I don't think it is either. Okay.

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That's, that's my comment. Okay.

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The, the only concern I have,

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and to be honest with you, I'll be straightforward if

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what I read here is true

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and it's just what I get from our people going out there

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basically saying the way they were received,

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the way they were spoken to, uh, the fact

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that both proposals were turned down and unacceptable.

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Uh, I guess I look at from the standpoint,

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we will bend over backwards for a resident

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to try and accommodate.

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And I think there's residents sitting here today that know

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that I know Mr. Shields is here

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and we did some stuff with him and some others.

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Uh, but one thing we don't tolerate is when we send people

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out there, if they're treated rudely, uh,

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if there is shouting, if there is profanity used,

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that's not tolerated.

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We're trying to help the resident.

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We're not out there to take any kind

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of grief or go from anyone.

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The report that came back was disturbing to me last night

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and I made some calls on it to try and follow up,

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but I'm interested in hearing

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what you have to say, Mr. Schwartz.

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So if you'd like to step up, give us your name, your address

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before Mr. Schwartz address.

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Yes, sir. I'm just quick. Um, my concern in part is

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what we do for one, we do for all that's correct.

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And we've got property that is actually district owned

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and we are maintaining it.

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Now, there may be an issue in terms of the level

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of maintenance or the,

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or was it acceptable in terms of it,

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final condition, don't precedent.

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And maybe we need to look at that

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and do something to, to improve that.

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Um, but uh, as far as having

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a resident maintain district property,

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I think we're opening ourselves up for all kinds

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of potential problems.

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Well, I think it's in terms of liability

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and if something happen

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and somebody gets injured, so, um, yeah.

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And we, we discuss that if we do anything

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and we would approve anything like that, uh, yes,

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you set the precedent.

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Any other resident that came afterwards

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that wanted something special done on their particular piece

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of land or entrance way.

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Mm-hmm. If we did not do that, then we would be liable for,

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uh, selective enforcement,

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which I'm sure our attorney's very familiar with.

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And that's the last thing we want to get involved in.

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So what we attempted to do, what we were trying

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to do goes over and above what we would normally do.

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And I think at this point, if I'm,

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what I'm reading is correct, we will take a look from the

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standpoint and make sure the maintenance is done properly,

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that it's cut properly,

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but make no changes to it whatsoever.

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So, and I, your name and address again sir?

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Uh, Ted Schwartz, and I'm at 1235 Eagle Ridge.

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And this is my neighbor. She's on the other side.

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Uh, Angie Williams. Okay.

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Um, if you look at the, the lot lines,

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that packet I gave you guys last time

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with the colorful, um Yep.

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Envelope, uh, the, um, the,

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the Village's landscaping is greatly overgrowing.

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The lot lines. And we don't care about that. Leave it alone.

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Um, I'm absolutely shocked at the, uh, price you guys got

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for, uh, doing the ground cover.

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That's ridiculous. One

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of my options when I was here last time is just tell the

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maintenance crews to stop cutting the grass.

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We share the same landscaper.

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The landscaper, uh, for a couple years, I,

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this is my third winter here, was cutting the grass.

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Now all of a sudden they're, the maintenance crews are

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cutting the grass and yes, they can use a lawnmower,

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they can use the big lawnmower.

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They don't have to use a weed wagon.

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The problem is they're weed whacking half of my front lawn.

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That's beyond your lot lines. That's the problem.

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They're damaging my lawn and it looks ridiculous.

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You, you drive up, my grass is cut

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and I, it's, it's the, um, St.

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Augustine, it's gotta be three inches high.

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They're scalping it and every time they cut it's different.

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Okay. So I don't want you guys spending the 11,000.

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That's a ridiculous number. I used to be a builder.

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I kicked that out of there so fast.

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It's the, they're ripping you off.

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That's a horrible price for, for the work that's being done.

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Um, just stop cutting it. Let us cut it.

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Take it off the rolls. Please can't do that.

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We will keep it nice.

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Our landscaper doesn't charge us anything.

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It's just a little strip.

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They, they, they, they just keep insisting on doing that.

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That I'm saying why. But again, once we do that

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and allow you to cut district property, we set a precedent

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and any other resident come in and say the same thing.

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I don't want you cutting it. I want to cut it.

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If we say no, then we're gonna go,

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then we're have a liability.

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Am I correct counselor? We can be sued for that.

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We can't, we can't do that. I understand that. Yeah.

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So, so the unfortunately, so it's a, it's a legality,

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but what can be done, uh, first of all, we need

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to work together a little more cooperatively.

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I don't know if this took place 'cause I wasn't there.

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I can only know what our people tell us.

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But you get one side story, you don't hear what,

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what I'm hearing coming in the insistent.

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So it's basically everything for the villages

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and not really necessarily the villages.

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Everything for the landscape company,

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their maintenance crews and nothing for us.

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You know, they can just come on and just make a mess

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and make my property look ridiculous.

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Mm-hmm. It looks, it's,

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you can't believe how stupid it looks.

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It's like, just stop cutting it. Let us do it.

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My landscaper doesn't charge us anything.

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Well, the bottom, it's such a small piece.

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The bottom line is we can't let you do it. Okay.

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That's, that's the problem.

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Now that doesn't mean it has to look the way it is now.

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Uh, I'm quite sure we can pay a little

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more attention to that.

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Am I correct And make sure that it is done properly

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and that it blends in and we'll go out

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and we can also check that to make sure it's being done.

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But what we can't do is say to you, yes,

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you can go ahead on Villages property.

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You can cut that, you can take care of that.

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That will not happen no matter what.

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If you look at this original design plan, okay,

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the maintenance crews aren't reading this properly.

484
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Okay. The big problem I have is this is my home right here.

485
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Okay? The bush is on

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and there's a straight line right there.

487
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Yep. Uh, perpendicular to the street. Right? I've seen it.

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Yeah. They're cutting this way at an angle.

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And like I said, every time they cut it's different.

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And sometimes it's actually literally half of my problem.

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You live in Patio Village, it's a postage stamp.

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It, you know,

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and they can't tell me you can't use a lawnmower

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because you can, it can be the wide lawnmower

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because half mower's on the street

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and the other half is on the grass.

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And that cuts it nice and easy.

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And when they show up at these weed whackers,

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they just, they don't care.

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And, and the fact that there, there's,

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there's nothing protecting me from them taking their wheat

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whacker and, and chopping the hell out of my front yard

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and they just keep doing it.

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And when I ask the guys, nobody will work with me.

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Nobody has any common sense. It's so frustrating.

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And yes, you know, you talk about me being a perfectionist,

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I was AED home builder, I was a cus uh,

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a commercial builder, but I was also a home inspector.

509
00:22:22.535 --> 00:22:25.445
Right. And so I'm sorry if my eye is critical,

510
00:22:25.865 --> 00:22:29.125
but I challenge any one of you guys to let your neighbor

511
00:22:29.805 --> 00:22:33.345
scalp half your front lawn and that's what's happening.

512
00:22:33.695 --> 00:22:34.985
Yeah. And the thing is,

513
00:22:34.985 --> 00:22:38.145
is when you look at the original plan, they're going

514
00:22:38.225 --> 00:22:41.465
with this plan where this is the street

515
00:22:41.845 --> 00:22:43.265
and you see these lines.

516
00:22:43.485 --> 00:22:45.705
Yep. All right. Here's the thing they're missing.

517
00:22:46.255 --> 00:22:49.665
Look at this strip right here, and here's the street.

518
00:22:50.205 --> 00:22:54.145
So that's telling me either they gotta cut, uh, two foot

519
00:22:54.145 --> 00:22:56.185
of all the way across the front of my property,

520
00:22:56.925 --> 00:22:57.985
or they gotta stop.

521
00:22:58.685 --> 00:23:02.025
Or we need, we, we maintain this, this is,

522
00:23:02.095 --> 00:23:03.785
this is the village property right here.

523
00:23:04.365 --> 00:23:06.825
Not here. You see,

524
00:23:06.825 --> 00:23:07.905
that's what I understand what you're saying.

525
00:23:08.085 --> 00:23:10.345
We really, to solve this problem, we need

526
00:23:10.345 --> 00:23:11.865
to have a meeting on site

527
00:23:11.885 --> 00:23:14.305
so I can show you guys what's going on.

528
00:23:14.605 --> 00:23:15.745
Didn't the people come over

529
00:23:15.825 --> 00:23:16.945
to your home and take a look at it?

530
00:23:16.945 --> 00:23:19.105
No. Uh, where did you Walter Martin called me.

531
00:23:19.195 --> 00:23:22.545
Where did you meet? Uh, two people came over to meet

532
00:23:22.545 --> 00:23:25.385
with you and they, uh, said they got in a confrontation

533
00:23:25.445 --> 00:23:27.145
and that you used profanity, this

534
00:23:27.145 --> 00:23:29.065
and everything else, Adam, that we don't tolerate.

535
00:23:29.215 --> 00:23:30.545
I've with, you know, that the maintenance crews

536
00:23:30.545 --> 00:23:31.665
about four times.

537
00:23:32.805 --> 00:23:34.905
And every time when you say the crew,

538
00:23:34.905 --> 00:23:36.425
you talking about the people coming cutting it

539
00:23:36.445 --> 00:23:37.545
or the people that were in charge?

540
00:23:37.545 --> 00:23:38.905
The people that it, our administrator

541
00:23:39.325 --> 00:23:40.625
and the supervisor who

542
00:23:40.655 --> 00:23:42.225
whoever's running the cruise is there.

543
00:23:43.125 --> 00:23:46.125
And I keep asking him, can you guys stop doing this? Okay.

544
00:23:46.145 --> 00:23:47.365
But let me stop you there.

545
00:23:47.535 --> 00:23:49.045
First of all, the people that come out,

546
00:23:49.905 --> 00:23:52.485
we have an enormous number of landscapers here.

547
00:23:52.505 --> 00:23:55.445
Oh yeah. This place is 90 square miles right now.

548
00:23:55.805 --> 00:23:58.125
Probably an exceeded that, that we take care of.

549
00:23:58.505 --> 00:24:00.125
So yes, they're gonna change.

550
00:24:00.125 --> 00:24:01.605
Different people are gonna come out,

551
00:24:01.605 --> 00:24:02.805
they're gonna do it different ways.

552
00:24:03.585 --> 00:24:07.165
And your, your particular case, I don't know who does it,

553
00:24:07.185 --> 00:24:09.605
but I would venture to guess it's not the same person all

554
00:24:09.605 --> 00:24:10.965
the time coming out and they're in a hurry

555
00:24:10.985 --> 00:24:13.645
and they're gonna work through right now that we know that

556
00:24:14.785 --> 00:24:17.045
we can monitor, that, we can watch that,

557
00:24:17.105 --> 00:24:18.405
we can make sure it doesn't happen.

558
00:24:18.825 --> 00:24:21.845
If you have a problem, you can notify administration,

559
00:24:22.265 --> 00:24:24.325
not get outta confrontation with the landscapers.

560
00:24:24.355 --> 00:24:26.365
Because to be honest with you, they don't really care.

561
00:24:26.705 --> 00:24:28.285
No, they don't. They're just out there to cut.

562
00:24:28.425 --> 00:24:30.205
That's their job. You don't hire 'em

563
00:24:30.205 --> 00:24:32.245
because of their, you know, number of degrees they hold.

564
00:24:32.355 --> 00:24:34.845
Okay. They work the labor and that's wonderful.

565
00:24:34.865 --> 00:24:36.325
We need them. Yes. On the other hand,

566
00:24:36.325 --> 00:24:37.685
you getting into discussion with them

567
00:24:37.745 --> 00:24:40.005
or confrontation doesn't help the situation.

568
00:24:40.385 --> 00:24:42.365
We send administrators out there to meet

569
00:24:42.365 --> 00:24:43.805
with you, to talk with you.

570
00:24:43.805 --> 00:24:46.285
These are our people and they're very, very skilled

571
00:24:46.385 --> 00:24:48.565
and they do a hell of a job for us.

572
00:24:48.595 --> 00:24:50.285
Yeah. And that did not go well.

573
00:24:50.465 --> 00:24:52.245
And I find that a little disturbing. Yep.

574
00:24:52.365 --> 00:24:53.485
I I understand what you're, if you talk

575
00:24:53.485 --> 00:24:54.605
to 'em like they're the landscapers,

576
00:24:54.605 --> 00:24:55.805
you're not gonna get anything your way.

577
00:24:55.885 --> 00:24:59.565
I can tell you that right now. But the bottom line is we are

578
00:24:59.565 --> 00:25:01.925
willing to work with you to the point

579
00:25:02.735 --> 00:25:04.885
where we cannot allow you to do it,

580
00:25:05.385 --> 00:25:08.645
but we can correct the situation to the best of our ability.

581
00:25:08.865 --> 00:25:09.885
You can monitor that.

582
00:25:09.905 --> 00:25:12.725
And if it does not go the way it was agreed upon,

583
00:25:13.105 --> 00:25:14.925
you call this gentleman right here

584
00:25:14.985 --> 00:25:17.525
and you get his direct line and you let him know,

585
00:25:17.905 --> 00:25:19.365
or one of his representatives,

586
00:25:19.905 --> 00:25:21.405
and that's, that should resolve the problem.

587
00:25:21.585 --> 00:25:24.645
But if, if you are intent upon doing it yourself

588
00:25:24.645 --> 00:25:28.165
and cutting it legally, we cannot allow you to do that.

589
00:25:28.425 --> 00:25:31.165
And if you do that, then you're trespassing on villages

590
00:25:31.285 --> 00:25:32.445
property and they, and they threaten to call,

591
00:25:32.515 --> 00:25:35.645
call the police on me if I, if I, uh, try to go over and,

592
00:25:35.645 --> 00:25:36.725
and make things nice.

593
00:25:36.865 --> 00:25:39.245
The problem is, is, you know, being a business owner myself,

594
00:25:39.325 --> 00:25:41.645
I, I know I used don't fight businesses at any one time.

595
00:25:41.945 --> 00:25:43.525
The problem is turnover. Mm-hmm.

596
00:25:43.605 --> 00:25:44.885
And that's why, um,

597
00:25:45.535 --> 00:25:47.645
every time they cut it's something different.

598
00:25:47.745 --> 00:25:50.165
And I understand turnover, you know? Mm-hmm.

599
00:25:50.305 --> 00:25:53.125
But, uh, and I understand how hard it is to supervise

600
00:25:53.265 --> 00:25:57.565
and that's why I'm just telling you guys, the only solution

601
00:25:57.945 --> 00:26:02.405
that's gonna stop this conflict is let us maintain it.

602
00:26:02.565 --> 00:26:05.285
I don't understand why this is so difficult.

603
00:26:05.985 --> 00:26:07.525
I'm not asking you to spend any money.

604
00:26:08.225 --> 00:26:09.765
I'm actually asking you to do less.

605
00:26:10.385 --> 00:26:14.645
I'm asking to do something to, for the villages to,

606
00:26:14.705 --> 00:26:16.805
to make this look as nice as possible,

607
00:26:17.335 --> 00:26:19.365
which is gonna benefit everybody that comes

608
00:26:19.365 --> 00:26:21.525
through the neighborhood because we're the first thing they

609
00:26:21.525 --> 00:26:22.645
see when they enter our neighborhood.

610
00:26:23.245 --> 00:26:24.765
I, this is what's frustrating

611
00:26:24.765 --> 00:26:27.085
for me is there's no common sense here.

612
00:26:27.545 --> 00:26:31.885
Please just let us maintain it and stop the madness

613
00:26:31.885 --> 00:26:33.325
because I'm telling you it's gonna

614
00:26:33.325 --> 00:26:34.405
happen over and over and over.

615
00:26:34.405 --> 00:26:37.645
And I can't tell you how much it bothers me when somebody

616
00:26:37.645 --> 00:26:40.285
comes in and they chop the hell outta my front lawn.

617
00:26:41.035 --> 00:26:44.685
It's frustrating. I want my lawn, I want it to look as nice

618
00:26:44.685 --> 00:26:46.285
as possible because to me,

619
00:26:46.285 --> 00:26:48.325
that's the most neighborly thing I can do.

620
00:26:48.325 --> 00:26:52.885
Mm-hmm. I would never make my property look terrible. Never.

621
00:26:53.235 --> 00:26:55.445
Okay. We're we're all in the same room this morning.

622
00:26:55.445 --> 00:26:57.685
Counselor. What? Gimme your read on this thing.

623
00:26:57.955 --> 00:26:59.805
What can be done on something like this?

624
00:26:59.865 --> 00:27:02.325
You, a district can't permit a property owner

625
00:27:02.345 --> 00:27:04.165
to maintain under any circumstances.

626
00:27:04.225 --> 00:27:07.765
No. No. That's a law Mr. Chairman. You can't do it.

627
00:27:08.055 --> 00:27:10.405
Can't do it. Mr. Well, can you just turn a blind eye,

628
00:27:10.405 --> 00:27:12.965
please Be practical, Mr. Schwartz, Mr.

629
00:27:13.285 --> 00:27:16.485
Chairman, uh, and Mr. Wiley, um,

630
00:27:17.405 --> 00:27:18.485
I have a patio bill.

631
00:27:19.705 --> 00:27:21.645
My job is to maintain my property.

632
00:27:23.015 --> 00:27:25.995
The district's job is to maintain the district property

633
00:27:26.695 --> 00:27:28.995
and where the line is that can be determined.

634
00:27:29.665 --> 00:27:31.235
They've got all kinds of information

635
00:27:31.235 --> 00:27:32.675
that says the line is here or it's here.

636
00:27:32.675 --> 00:27:33.995
Mm-hmm. Wherever it is, is wherever it is.

637
00:27:35.375 --> 00:27:39.915
Um, you

638
00:27:40.145 --> 00:27:43.355
have a, a great deal of pride in your own property

639
00:27:43.355 --> 00:27:44.355
and I appreciate that

640
00:27:44.895 --> 00:27:46.635
and you maintain it and you do a good job.

641
00:27:47.415 --> 00:27:51.525
Um, us as an elected officials can't just say, okay,

642
00:27:51.525 --> 00:27:54.765
for you, we'll, we'll turn a blind eye as you said,

643
00:27:54.915 --> 00:27:56.005
it's just not gonna happen.

644
00:27:56.955 --> 00:27:59.645
Then we're, we're complicit in that. I think.

645
00:28:00.865 --> 00:28:04.605
Mr. Wiley, would it be possible for you to, to, to,

646
00:28:05.145 --> 00:28:07.565
or your, your representatives to go out to Mr.

647
00:28:07.575 --> 00:28:11.045
Schwartz's property and say, here's where the line is.

648
00:28:12.365 --> 00:28:14.325
Absolutely. I and bring the MR

649
00:28:14.665 --> 00:28:17.445
and say to Mr. Schwartz, you maintained to here.

650
00:28:17.825 --> 00:28:19.525
And then we talk to our contractors

651
00:28:19.625 --> 00:28:21.165
and say, you maintained to here.

652
00:28:21.385 --> 00:28:24.965
You don't go over there. You stay on your side of the line.

653
00:28:25.265 --> 00:28:27.365
Mr. Schwartz will stay on his side of the line

654
00:28:27.745 --> 00:28:30.045
and both will do the best they can to do a good job.

655
00:28:30.725 --> 00:28:32.445
Absolutely. And hopefully that'll resolve the issue.

656
00:28:32.625 --> 00:28:33.805
Yes, sir. I, I'll be willing

657
00:28:33.805 --> 00:28:35.405
to meet Mr. Schwartz on site next week.

658
00:28:35.435 --> 00:28:36.725
I'll go out personally and meet with him

659
00:28:36.745 --> 00:28:38.725
and meet with the crew and we'll meet on site.

660
00:28:38.915 --> 00:28:40.485
Cordial. You're shaking your head.

661
00:28:40.485 --> 00:28:41.885
You're not willing to accept that you don't wanna do that.

662
00:28:42.025 --> 00:28:44.325
Is that correct? No, it's, you got, you're, you're,

663
00:28:44.325 --> 00:28:45.605
you're not gonna get what he wants.

664
00:28:45.605 --> 00:28:48.125
You're with all the turnover in the different crew.

665
00:28:48.125 --> 00:28:50.085
You, you can't give him what he wants. I understand.

666
00:28:50.185 --> 00:28:51.605
And we, we've said it over and over.

667
00:28:51.905 --> 00:28:53.925
I'm not exactly sure where we can go with this.

668
00:28:53.925 --> 00:28:55.845
You're saying what, what we can do, and we are really going

669
00:28:55.855 --> 00:28:57.525
above and beyond what we normally do.

670
00:28:57.655 --> 00:28:58.845
We're trying to accommodate you.

671
00:28:58.965 --> 00:29:01.045
I I move, I totally understand your side,

672
00:29:01.345 --> 00:29:03.285
but you guys are missing that.

673
00:29:04.155 --> 00:29:07.605
It's so variable. It every every week is different.

674
00:29:08.035 --> 00:29:11.205
There's, you can say, we can meet and say here's the line,

675
00:29:11.865 --> 00:29:13.805
but it's always different crews.

676
00:29:13.805 --> 00:29:15.965
And you know, it may, you may have the same employee

677
00:29:15.965 --> 00:29:17.325
for six months and it's going great,

678
00:29:17.325 --> 00:29:18.885
but then they change it.

679
00:29:18.955 --> 00:29:20.765
It's just gonna be an ongoing Okay. I understand.

680
00:29:20.965 --> 00:29:22.365
Frustration on my part. Okay.

681
00:29:22.625 --> 00:29:24.685
And basically the bottom line is

682
00:29:26.465 --> 00:29:30.245
you're not being good neighbors when you keep encroaching

683
00:29:30.345 --> 00:29:32.125
and, and damaging my front lawn.

684
00:29:33.435 --> 00:29:34.805
There's no resolution here.

685
00:29:34.965 --> 00:29:36.485
I will be frustrated forever

686
00:29:36.485 --> 00:29:38.325
because this is never gonna be corrected.

687
00:29:38.385 --> 00:29:42.925
The only solution is this. Just stop cutting it.

688
00:29:42.975 --> 00:29:44.685
There is enough. Okay.

689
00:29:44.905 --> 00:29:46.445
Let your neighbor have a word on the floor.

690
00:29:48.215 --> 00:29:50.525
Jerry, Andrew Williams and I live Georgia.

691
00:29:50.525 --> 00:29:51.725
Did you, did you have something you wanted to say?

692
00:29:51.965 --> 00:29:53.725
Somebody spoke of? Yes ma'am.

693
00:29:53.725 --> 00:29:54.645
Could I have your name and your

694
00:29:54.645 --> 00:29:55.405
address please? Can we the ground

695
00:29:55.405 --> 00:29:56.725
Cover, because if there's ground

696
00:29:56.725 --> 00:29:58.405
Cover your name and your address please. Oh,

697
00:29:58.425 --> 00:30:01.405
1247 Eagle Ridge. I'm right beside him.

698
00:30:01.785 --> 00:30:03.165
And your name? Angie Williams.

699
00:30:03.715 --> 00:30:06.925
Okay, thank you. Um, if we put ground cover,

700
00:30:07.435 --> 00:30:09.165
that would eliminate being mowed.

701
00:30:10.425 --> 00:30:11.445
So there's the solution

702
00:30:11.445 --> 00:30:13.605
Ground cover, Then he doesn't have

703
00:30:13.605 --> 00:30:15.445
to worry about people coming over mowing.

704
00:30:16.155 --> 00:30:19.645
It's covered. It looks nice. It's done.

705
00:30:20.705 --> 00:30:22.885
So the ground cover would be acceptable. Oh yeah.

706
00:30:22.985 --> 00:30:25.605
To say if we get the ground cover, we don't have

707
00:30:25.605 --> 00:30:27.005
to worry about any of this anymore.

708
00:30:27.755 --> 00:30:29.845
Well, isn't that what these two proposals are?

709
00:30:29.845 --> 00:30:31.965
That's what, yeah, that's what we talked about.

710
00:30:32.265 --> 00:30:35.405
Why I was focusing on, um, letting us maintain it.

711
00:30:35.405 --> 00:30:37.365
Because you know, I I I really don't want

712
00:30:37.365 --> 00:30:39.805
to watch you guys spend $11,000 on ground cover.

713
00:30:39.845 --> 00:30:41.445
I think it's a ridiculous price. But if you guys were

714
00:30:41.445 --> 00:30:43.285
willing to do that, that is the solution.

715
00:30:43.625 --> 00:30:45.885
The other problem that I have though, um,

716
00:30:47.105 --> 00:30:48.725
is I would just want an assurance

717
00:30:48.795 --> 00:30:51.125
that we have some final say so in

718
00:30:51.125 --> 00:30:52.605
where they place the ground cover.

719
00:30:52.915 --> 00:30:57.365
Because talking to the, the, the crews, uh, on site,

720
00:30:57.875 --> 00:31:01.725
they want do this ridiculous line at a diagonal across the

721
00:31:01.725 --> 00:31:03.285
front of my lawn with front.

722
00:31:03.285 --> 00:31:06.005
They pla they place it where we tell them to place it. Yeah.

723
00:31:06.065 --> 00:31:08.485
Simple as that. And if, if they would follow

724
00:31:09.465 --> 00:31:13.045
and if we, if we did decide to do that line, this works.

725
00:31:13.685 --> 00:31:15.885
I understand that. But I would like to meet with them

726
00:31:15.945 --> 00:31:17.765
and get an assurance on the job.

727
00:31:17.875 --> 00:31:20.605
Like, okay, um, this is my interpretation,

728
00:31:20.875 --> 00:31:22.485
this is here and this is here.

729
00:31:22.745 --> 00:31:24.285
And if that's where the ground cover's

730
00:31:24.285 --> 00:31:25.565
going, boy, we're happy.

731
00:31:26.215 --> 00:31:28.885
We're happy. All right.

732
00:31:28.905 --> 00:31:33.125
My recommendation, my suggestion would be if you,

733
00:31:33.125 --> 00:31:35.005
if you're willing to go out there Yes sir.

734
00:31:35.345 --> 00:31:38.405
Sit down, take a look at the line, come

735
00:31:38.405 --> 00:31:39.765
to a reasonable conclusion.

736
00:31:40.005 --> 00:31:41.205
I don't want any confrontation.

737
00:31:41.225 --> 00:31:42.485
If we hear that, it's gonna end

738
00:31:42.485 --> 00:31:44.205
immediately that I won't tolerate.

739
00:31:44.795 --> 00:31:47.245
Okay. And if you, any profanity is used,

740
00:31:47.245 --> 00:31:48.445
it'll stop at that point too.

741
00:31:49.125 --> 00:31:51.485
I know you, you're passionate, man. I can tell.

742
00:31:52.105 --> 00:31:53.725
But these people know

743
00:31:53.725 --> 00:31:55.485
what the heck they're doing and we trust them.

744
00:31:55.485 --> 00:31:58.365
They're our folks and we take care of a lot of property.

745
00:31:58.585 --> 00:32:01.045
So if they're willing to come down, sit down with you,

746
00:32:01.755 --> 00:32:03.165
come up with a reasonable

747
00:32:03.305 --> 00:32:05.485
and agreeable way of handling this thing.

748
00:32:05.485 --> 00:32:06.525
If it's ground cover

749
00:32:06.745 --> 00:32:09.925
and we can do it at a reasonable cost, fine.

750
00:32:10.285 --> 00:32:12.525
If that satisfies you and you can both walk away

751
00:32:12.525 --> 00:32:14.405
and say, great, here's the line, here's

752
00:32:14.405 --> 00:32:15.885
what we're gonna do, it ends.

753
00:32:16.765 --> 00:32:19.965
I that's something you would, uh, totally. Totally.

754
00:32:20.105 --> 00:32:22.445
And I'm, as I said last time I was here,

755
00:32:22.785 --> 00:32:25.045
it pains me to come to this meeting.

756
00:32:25.485 --> 00:32:26.725
I understand. And make any kind

757
00:32:26.725 --> 00:32:28.565
of complaint about the villages

758
00:32:28.675 --> 00:32:31.245
because villages is absolutely beautiful.

759
00:32:31.625 --> 00:32:33.445
The level of maintenance is incredible.

760
00:32:34.085 --> 00:32:37.765
I I I tell people, I can't believe that the Morris family,

761
00:32:38.385 --> 00:32:40.205
uh, spends as much money

762
00:32:40.385 --> 00:32:42.805
and everything on the amount of landscaping.

763
00:32:42.805 --> 00:32:44.965
If they did half the landscaping in the villages,

764
00:32:44.965 --> 00:32:46.405
this place would still be beautiful.

765
00:32:46.885 --> 00:32:49.805
I am so appreciative of how generous they are with us,

766
00:32:50.345 --> 00:32:54.765
you know, but just for some reason got this odd design, uh,

767
00:32:55.545 --> 00:32:56.925
in between our two properties

768
00:32:57.065 --> 00:32:59.645
and then what's been going on with the weed wacking.

769
00:32:59.645 --> 00:33:02.645
It's just beyond, you know, it's frustrating that Okay.

770
00:33:02.725 --> 00:33:04.005
I just, I'm so happy we everyth. I'm,

771
00:33:04.185 --> 00:33:06.885
I'm gonna cut this short because we have other discuss too.

772
00:33:07.665 --> 00:33:10.485
So we are in agreement. Yes, sir. Two of you can meet.

773
00:33:10.825 --> 00:33:12.245
Yes, sir. Would you let me know

774
00:33:12.245 --> 00:33:13.325
when that meeting is scheduled?

775
00:33:13.465 --> 00:33:15.365
I'd like to be there. Yes, sir. All right.

776
00:33:15.725 --> 00:33:16.805
I would like to thank Walter

777
00:33:16.805 --> 00:33:18.805
because nobody was contacting me

778
00:33:18.805 --> 00:33:19.845
after the last time I was here.

779
00:33:19.865 --> 00:33:22.205
He called me, uh, one day out of the blue

780
00:33:22.265 --> 00:33:23.645
and asked, you know, has anybody

781
00:33:23.715 --> 00:33:24.765
contacted me and everything.

782
00:33:24.885 --> 00:33:28.245
I was, I was shocked and so impressed by him following

783
00:33:28.245 --> 00:33:30.085
through when I guess he didn't really have to.

784
00:33:30.105 --> 00:33:31.045
But I really, really

785
00:33:31.045 --> 00:33:32.565
appreciate what he did for him at Walter.

786
00:33:32.825 --> 00:33:34.205
Walter Walter's a good

787
00:33:34.325 --> 00:33:35.645
management with He is for a long time.

788
00:33:35.795 --> 00:33:39.045
Yeah. And he does a super job. I, I'm sorry. Yes, sir.

789
00:33:39.065 --> 00:33:41.125
But I have a question. Yeah, go right ahead.

790
00:33:41.345 --> 00:33:45.405
On one of these, one of these, uh, pictures that we have,

791
00:33:45.945 --> 00:33:48.245
little louder in your mic, I can't hear spoken to the mic.

792
00:33:49.875 --> 00:33:52.095
It says that the homeowner wants

793
00:33:52.095 --> 00:33:54.335
to move our property line back.

794
00:33:54.995 --> 00:33:56.375
No, no, we're not gonna do that.

795
00:33:56.555 --> 00:33:57.895
No, we're not gonna do that. No.

796
00:33:58.035 --> 00:34:03.015
And, and, and that's not necessary to satisfy your thing.

797
00:34:03.275 --> 00:34:06.255
Now the, the other question I have is there's a proposal

798
00:34:06.255 --> 00:34:07.935
here for about $3,000.

799
00:34:08.275 --> 00:34:12.135
Mm-hmm. And then there's a proposal for $11,000. Mm-hmm.

800
00:34:13.115 --> 00:34:16.815
Is the $3,000 proposal acceptable?

801
00:34:19.875 --> 00:34:22.695
No, at this point, both proposals were turned down.

802
00:34:22.945 --> 00:34:24.335
We're talking a whole different meeting.

803
00:34:24.405 --> 00:34:26.815
Well, I would prefer that we look at the $3,000.

804
00:34:27.295 --> 00:34:28.655
I understand that solution.

805
00:34:28.675 --> 00:34:29.935
And that was the next thing I was gonna say.

806
00:34:30.195 --> 00:34:31.815
We should be able to do ground,

807
00:34:31.875 --> 00:34:33.935
ground cover at a reasonable rate.

808
00:34:34.615 --> 00:34:36.535
I mean, what I saw is a very small space.

809
00:34:36.835 --> 00:34:38.615
We don't have to redo this whole thing.

810
00:34:39.115 --> 00:34:40.695
No, we're making 'em out outta the mall though. Okay.

811
00:34:40.695 --> 00:34:44.375
Thank you. Just to clarify, the $3,000, the note

812
00:34:44.375 --> 00:34:46.055
that would not meet the design intent

813
00:34:46.055 --> 00:34:48.135
for the $3,000 is the way we plant things.

814
00:34:48.715 --> 00:34:49.775
Uh, the one

815
00:34:49.835 --> 00:34:54.135
for the 11,000 558 85 would be following the

816
00:34:54.135 --> 00:34:55.175
design intent of the villages.

817
00:34:55.175 --> 00:34:57.335
And it would go out to the curb wave with the ground cover.

818
00:34:57.965 --> 00:35:00.175
That would be the option that if we go that route,

819
00:35:00.205 --> 00:35:01.775
that would be the option that we recommend.

820
00:35:02.075 --> 00:35:04.695
You're saying be consistent with the villages? Yes, sir.

821
00:35:05.165 --> 00:35:08.015
With the architectural landscaping design intent there, all,

822
00:35:08.055 --> 00:35:09.775
all the entranceways are pretty much the same.

823
00:35:09.915 --> 00:35:12.415
Yes, sir. Alright. And, and Mr.

824
00:35:12.695 --> 00:35:14.215
Chairman, sir, for further clarification.

825
00:35:14.955 --> 00:35:18.935
Um, Mr. Schwartz, I want, I wanna be involved so I can see

826
00:35:18.935 --> 00:35:21.975
where that place, where that line is, the property line is

827
00:35:21.975 --> 00:35:23.295
where it is and it's not gonna be moved.

828
00:35:23.465 --> 00:35:25.775
Right. And if we're gonna go to the property line,

829
00:35:25.995 --> 00:35:27.055
that's where we're going.

830
00:35:27.675 --> 00:35:31.855
And, and you, the final layout, you may look in

831
00:35:31.855 --> 00:35:33.095
and say, well, that's not what I want.

832
00:35:33.835 --> 00:35:36.575
But that's what, if we're gonna go this route, that's

833
00:35:36.575 --> 00:35:37.640
where it's gonna gonna have to go.

834
00:35:38.025 --> 00:35:41.565
We can't move the property line that's, that's set in stone

835
00:35:42.105 --> 00:35:44.085
and any, any work that we do.

836
00:35:44.475 --> 00:35:46.325
When I say we, the villages. Right.

837
00:35:46.665 --> 00:35:50.565
And Mr. Wiley, and, uh, he, he knows what he's doing

838
00:35:50.625 --> 00:35:54.045
and he knows what he, and he's, he's very meticulous

839
00:35:54.105 --> 00:35:55.605
and in his detail.

840
00:35:56.155 --> 00:35:57.885
Yeah. And I appreciate we we're

841
00:35:57.885 --> 00:35:58.965
gonna have to do it that way.

842
00:35:59.625 --> 00:36:02.605
And, and if that eliminates the cutting, then

843
00:36:02.715 --> 00:36:06.005
that should satisfy your ongoing concern.

844
00:36:06.105 --> 00:36:10.045
Mm-hmm. Um, but you may not like the line where it is,

845
00:36:10.045 --> 00:36:13.085
but the line is where it is and it's not gonna move.

846
00:36:13.235 --> 00:36:14.925
Yeah. I, I believe, uh, you know,

847
00:36:14.925 --> 00:36:16.205
we're talking landscaping here.

848
00:36:16.215 --> 00:36:18.365
We're not talking construction. Correct.

849
00:36:18.585 --> 00:36:23.285
You know, and, um, if, if, you know, if you came out

850
00:36:23.505 --> 00:36:26.685
and, and we met, I'm pretty sure we're gonna come up with,

851
00:36:26.825 --> 00:36:28.085
uh, with a solution that works.

852
00:36:28.585 --> 00:36:30.485
You know, this is, this is made

853
00:36:30.485 --> 00:36:32.965
to be out way more complicated than it needs to be.

854
00:36:33.185 --> 00:36:34.565
No, I just wanted it on record that,

855
00:36:34.565 --> 00:36:36.325
that we can't be moving property lines.

856
00:36:36.325 --> 00:36:37.965
Yeah. 'cause somebody doesn't like

857
00:36:38.065 --> 00:36:39.285
the line that has been chosen.

858
00:36:39.825 --> 00:36:42.165
And believe me, I'm not trying to get anything

859
00:36:42.165 --> 00:36:44.605
that's not mine care less understand.

860
00:36:44.685 --> 00:36:47.445
I just want something that looks aesthetically pleasing

861
00:36:47.785 --> 00:36:50.685
to me, my neighbor and all of our neighbors.

862
00:36:50.825 --> 00:36:53.285
That's all I'm asking. I agree. All I'm asking. Okay.

863
00:36:53.545 --> 00:36:54.965
And all we want to do is make sure

864
00:36:54.965 --> 00:36:57.965
that we can resolve this problem without confrontation.

865
00:36:58.745 --> 00:37:01.525
Uh, and we can work together civilly. Yep. Okay.

866
00:37:01.805 --> 00:37:05.165
I, I, I hear you a hundred percent. Good. I'm glad. Okay.

867
00:37:05.845 --> 00:37:08.845
I have nothing further. We're in agreement then you set

868
00:37:08.845 --> 00:37:10.925
that meeting up and let me know when that is, please.

869
00:37:10.985 --> 00:37:13.205
Yes, sir. Okay. Let let the board know when it's

870
00:37:14.025 --> 00:37:15.025
Yes. And we'll, we'll provide

871
00:37:15.025 --> 00:37:16.245
a follow up, um,

872
00:37:16.265 --> 00:37:18.165
to the board in advance of the January meeting.

873
00:37:20.675 --> 00:37:24.845
Okay. Report,

874
00:37:27.295 --> 00:37:28.955
Uh, that concluded. Old business.

875
00:37:29.665 --> 00:37:32.675
Okay. Information items only information items only

876
00:37:33.185 --> 00:37:34.755
have been provided in advance.

877
00:37:34.765 --> 00:37:37.675
These are routine items. They don't require a motion.

878
00:37:37.895 --> 00:37:41.555
We just run through them. Uh, the DPM monthly report

879
00:37:42.415 --> 00:37:44.355
was the first item on financial

880
00:37:44.355 --> 00:37:45.635
statements, which I know you have.

881
00:37:46.855 --> 00:37:50.155
Uh, district manager approved purchase orders from

882
00:37:50.155 --> 00:37:52.115
50,000 up to 99.

883
00:37:52.265 --> 00:37:55.155
9 9 9. You couldn't have made a even amount a hundred grand,

884
00:37:56.095 --> 00:37:57.875
uh, permissible for purchasing policy.

885
00:37:58.455 --> 00:38:01.915
Anyone have any questions on these three items? Okay.

886
00:38:01.915 --> 00:38:04.755
We're in agreement to move on then. Move on. Okay.

887
00:38:06.385 --> 00:38:08.395
Just district manager report post storm

888
00:38:08.395 --> 00:38:09.875
review. There is a big one.

889
00:38:10.215 --> 00:38:11.355
Yes. Good morning board.

890
00:38:11.375 --> 00:38:13.755
Um, there was an update provided to you yesterday.

891
00:38:14.255 --> 00:38:17.035
Um, so our haulers have made significant progress.

892
00:38:17.295 --> 00:38:19.155
Um, we are through Lady Lake,

893
00:38:19.155 --> 00:38:20.995
lake County districts one through 11.

894
00:38:21.175 --> 00:38:22.435
Mm-hmm. Um, and,

895
00:38:22.695 --> 00:38:23.955
and Middleton, um,

896
00:38:23.955 --> 00:38:26.475
which did include multiple sweeps through that area.

897
00:38:27.175 --> 00:38:29.755
And we are currently actively working in District

898
00:38:29.755 --> 00:38:30.795
12 through 15.

899
00:38:31.495 --> 00:38:35.035
Um, so we have the goal of finishing that operation

900
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:36.445
by December 15th.

901
00:38:36.985 --> 00:38:39.365
Um, then we begin the grinding process

902
00:38:39.545 --> 00:38:42.645
for the final disposition at our, uh, DMS site.

903
00:38:42.985 --> 00:38:44.885
Um, and then disposal of the grounds.

904
00:38:44.885 --> 00:38:47.885
And that will complete our debris hauling efforts

905
00:38:48.025 --> 00:38:49.525
as a result of Hurricane Milton.

906
00:38:50.345 --> 00:38:52.325
So if you have any questions, I'm happy to address them.

907
00:38:52.595 --> 00:38:55.005
Yeah, that was ly an effort, believe me.

908
00:38:55.045 --> 00:38:56.485
I know how we went through on that

909
00:38:56.585 --> 00:38:58.685
and, uh, some people were not happy

910
00:38:58.685 --> 00:38:59.885
because the debris didn't

911
00:38:59.885 --> 00:39:01.245
disappear as quickly as they thought.

912
00:39:01.345 --> 00:39:03.725
But when you consider the size of the villages,

913
00:39:04.505 --> 00:39:05.765
I'd say we did a pretty good job.

914
00:39:06.125 --> 00:39:08.365
I, I drove some other roads recently, just the other day

915
00:39:08.825 --> 00:39:10.565
and they're just debris all over the place.

916
00:39:10.745 --> 00:39:12.645
So we're way out of the curve on that.

917
00:39:12.855 --> 00:39:14.925
Thank you. And the district property management team

918
00:39:14.925 --> 00:39:17.805
worked directly with the haulers and daily phone calls

919
00:39:17.985 --> 00:39:20.645
and they continue until this operation is complete.

920
00:39:20.875 --> 00:39:21.925
They have done a great job.

921
00:39:22.725 --> 00:39:25.325
Brittany, what's the disposition of the grinding?

922
00:39:25.745 --> 00:39:27.045
Is there a profit from that?

923
00:39:27.105 --> 00:39:28.365
Do we resell it

924
00:39:28.505 --> 00:39:31.565
or, so we just reuse it

925
00:39:31.905 --> 00:39:33.685
around the, the district?

926
00:39:33.715 --> 00:39:34.885
Unfortunately, no.

927
00:39:34.885 --> 00:39:37.205
The quality of it, they, they do make the attempt.

928
00:39:37.205 --> 00:39:39.565
They reach out to see if there is any ability to,

929
00:39:39.585 --> 00:39:40.605
for anyone to utilize it.

930
00:39:40.785 --> 00:39:42.285
But the quality of the material is,

931
00:39:42.945 --> 00:39:44.685
is not great based on the mixed material.

932
00:39:45.305 --> 00:39:48.445
Um, so it is being taken to a landfill site

933
00:39:48.445 --> 00:39:50.445
that takes vegetative debris.

934
00:39:52.435 --> 00:39:54.205
Okay. Any other questions?

935
00:39:56.235 --> 00:39:59.205
Okay, next item on the agenda.

936
00:39:59.205 --> 00:40:00.845
Item number seven, the audience comments.

937
00:40:01.225 --> 00:40:05.485
Any comments from the audience? Okay. Hearing none.

938
00:40:06.615 --> 00:40:08.965
Supervisor comments. I don't have any. I'm sorry.

939
00:40:09.125 --> 00:40:10.205
I don't have a, I don't have a report.

940
00:40:10.225 --> 00:40:13.165
Oh, you need, I'm so sorry. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year.

941
00:40:13.245 --> 00:40:15.125
I apologize, mark. Sorry. Thank you.

942
00:40:16.005 --> 00:40:18.965
District cultural report. Not that you're not important.

943
00:40:19.135 --> 00:40:23.365
Enjoy the goodie bag. That's my only report. No report.

944
00:40:23.905 --> 00:40:26.045
Uh, not my morning. Nothing to report.

945
00:40:26.705 --> 00:40:28.405
Put me through all that and nothing to report.

946
00:40:28.755 --> 00:40:30.565
Well, just the goodie bags there. I know.

947
00:40:30.855 --> 00:40:32.805
Thank you for those. Don't tell my wife

948
00:40:32.875 --> 00:40:34.045
that goodie bag though, please.

949
00:40:34.075 --> 00:40:38.645
I'll never get it. Um, supervisor comments.

950
00:40:40.115 --> 00:40:44.965
Mark, anything? Happy holidays. Yeah. Works for me.

951
00:40:45.705 --> 00:40:47.845
Double, double. I was second the happy holiday.

952
00:40:48.785 --> 00:40:50.525
Walter, you gotta be original

953
00:40:50.705 --> 00:40:53.085
and I have no, no, no comments either.

954
00:40:53.215 --> 00:40:55.765
Happy holidays. Yeah. Supervisor Noel. Yes.

955
00:40:55.765 --> 00:40:57.925
Happy and safe holidays to everybody. Okay.

956
00:40:58.665 --> 00:41:00.845
And again, thank you to all our supervisors.

957
00:41:01.105 --> 00:41:04.565
Uh, I don't think the residents realize how much time

958
00:41:04.565 --> 00:41:06.725
and how much effort goes into being a supervisor.

959
00:41:07.385 --> 00:41:09.405
And many think we're bringing down all these dollars.

960
00:41:09.505 --> 00:41:10.805
We don't get paid for doing this.

961
00:41:10.905 --> 00:41:12.285
We do this because we want to

962
00:41:12.745 --> 00:41:14.605
and we're neighbors just like the rest of you.

963
00:41:14.705 --> 00:41:16.245
So we do our best job that we can.

964
00:41:16.665 --> 00:41:18.765
Not always easy, but we enjoy it.

965
00:41:18.865 --> 00:41:21.405
And, uh, we appreciate your cooperation.

966
00:41:21.785 --> 00:41:23.605
We especially appreciate you being here.

967
00:41:23.605 --> 00:41:25.045
We've had pretty good attendance here

968
00:41:25.045 --> 00:41:26.725
lately, so thank you for that.

969
00:41:27.225 --> 00:41:29.445
And we wish you a happy holiday. Happy New Year.

970
00:41:29.945 --> 00:41:31.725
And we will see you again in January.

971
00:41:32.665 --> 00:41:35.725
So will that be on our regular schedule? The third?

972
00:41:35.865 --> 00:41:40.165
Uh, it will Friday. Yep. Okay. Set your alarm.

973
00:41:42.065 --> 00:41:43.085
I'm off schedule. Nothing else.

974
00:41:43.305 --> 00:41:46.085
I'm off schedule anyway for the whole month.

975
00:41:46.645 --> 00:41:48.045
I would entertain a motion to adjourn

976
00:41:48.045 --> 00:41:49.085
that if this so moved further.

977
00:41:49.385 --> 00:41:52.805
Second. Second. Doesn't require a vote. We are adjourned.

978
00:41:55.215 --> 00:41:55.685
Thank you.
