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I'd like to call the meeting to order for the CDD 13, um,

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meeting for July the 10th.

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And I'll say that all supervisors are here

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with the exception of Supervisor je.

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And if we could, I'll stand for the pledge allegiance

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and then our observation for a moment.

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Silence

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Of the United States of America to Republic,

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which is found one nation under God in with liberty

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and justice for all

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I had like to welcome, uh, the board would like

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to welcome all of our meeting attendees,

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um, that are here today.

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Is there anyone that would like to come forward

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and make a comment?

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If you do, please come to the podium, state your name,

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address, and then your comment.

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Okay. Seeing none, we'll close the audience comments.

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And now we'll go onto law enforcement updates.

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Good afternoon, captain Kinder from

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the Wellwood Police Department.

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Uh, we have two upcoming events.

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Uh, the first one is going to be a back

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to school packed cruiser.

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That is tomorrow, this Friday.

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Uh, our units are gonna be up at Walmart

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and Villages on Wedgewood.

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And what we do, this is I believe,

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our second annual event that we're doing.

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Uh, we used to do, uh, school supplies for the children.

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We realized that a lot

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of them actually need hygiene, uh, products.

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So what we do is we collect those. We distributed 'em out.

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Last year we gave up about 600 bags to

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students at the different schools.

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Uh, we found that, uh, those are a lot more useful

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and they cost quite a bit.

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So a lot of families can't afford the hygiene products.

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So that's gonna be tomorrow.

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Uh, people are welcome to go to Walmart

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and they can either fill up cart, bring in the bag,

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drop it off hours are gonna be between 11:00 AM and 1:00 PM

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or people can drop it off directly

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at the Wellwood Police Department.

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We'll make sure that that gets to the, the students.

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The second event that we've got is gonna be August 14th, uh,

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from 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM It's, uh,

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they're calling it the fall into finance.

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We're hosting that and we have several other investments

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and banks that are gonna be speaking about

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how people can secure their investments,

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uh, how they can grow them.

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But what our contribution is, is we're gonna be explaining

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to people how to avoid financial fraud.

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A lot of the frauds that are coming out, how

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to stay away from those scams.

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So we'll be, uh, we'll be helping those, uh,

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that information get out to the people.

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Uh, it's by RSVP only. Uh, it's gonna be limited spots.

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Uh, I'll give the flyers, uh, to the council

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and that way you guys can put it on there.

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But just please reach out

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to the police department if anybody's interested,

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and then we'll get 'em a spot.

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Other than that, I don't have any other, uh, updates

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or anything, uh, to present unless you have any questions.

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Anyone have any questions? Thank you very much. Thank you.

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So now we'll move on to move to new business.

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We have, uh, the minutes from last month,

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um, June 12th meeting.

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Could we have a motion or do we have any

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discussion about the minutes?

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I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. Second.

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Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

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Um, now we have the board consideration for adoption

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resolution 2025 dash 11,

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establishing participation in the multimodal discussion

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path, multimodal path discussion group.

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Sorry.

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So I feel pretty strongly about this.

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I've had basically two friends that I had several weeks

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that I had to visit in the hospital due

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to golf cart accidents.

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Um, the multimodal group, their mission

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is completely different than Pwac.

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Pwac is not assigned to go out

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and look for recommendations on what they can do

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to approve safety, but that's

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what the multimodal group is doing.

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And also they interact with the city and the, uh, county

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and also, uh, law enforcement

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to make recommendations to them.

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So, uh, that's kind of outside the bounds of what PAC does,

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unless somebody suggests something to 'em.

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Uh, I was at the last meeting.

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It was very well attended by the public,

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and, um, the, uh, district staff was also there along with,

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uh, law enforcement.

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Uh, it was, it was a very good meeting.

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I think there's a number of things that they need to address

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and being on the board, uh, I would like

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to move those forward.

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Um, so that's, that's why I brought this back up.

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I mean, it's no cost to us.

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Uh, you have a volunteer that's willing to do it,

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so I don't, I don't see why we don't, um,

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participate in this board.

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I believe Carrie, most

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of the other districts have a board member.

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Is that correct? I know there's one that's not

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because they don't have any multimodal paths, but,

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Um, I believe that District three

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and 11 are the two that do not have a representation

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There. Okay.

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So the majority of 'em have, uh, district representatives.

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I'm not sure why there other ones don't,

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but, um, I would like the board to approve, uh, to allow me

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to sit in on these, uh, as a board member.

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I guess it's not a board, it's a, uh, what do they call it?

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It it is, um, it is not a board,

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but it is, um, a, a group that does fall under sunshine

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and public record laws.

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Okay. That's, that's

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All. So, one

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question the second, um, if at some point,

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uh, supervisor Kerrigan decides he doesn't want

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to participate and we don't have someone else that's willing

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to step up, can we have another resolution

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to come off of it?

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Yes, ma'am. Okay.

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And this in no way would change, um, any

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of our current paths.

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I know I've spoken to Mr.

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Mellinger about concerns in District 15

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that he's already working on with EMAC

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and 15, so we can still continue those paths.

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Yes, ma'am. We don't have to take everything

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through this discussion group.

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You don't have to take anything

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through the discussion group.

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This is simply, as Supervisor Kerrigan said, a way for

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supervisors to come together

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and brainstorm, share ideas, information,

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and hopefully come up with some type of consensus, um,

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to ensure that the past remain, um,

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consistent across the board.

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But the board or the group does not have the ability

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to actually take action.

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It doesn't have the ability to expend funds

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or do anything with your pasts unless it comes back

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before this board and you make that decision.

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Yeah, it's, it's mostly just

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to evaluate different things that can be done.

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And, and there's a, there's a number of things that, um, we,

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we really need to do to increase the safety

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on a multimodal pass.

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And there's other communities that have done a number

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of things that can be done.

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And I, I think just having the group and,

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and getting the information together, uh, and,

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and then researching it

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and then providing that the PA, you know,

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with some good basis on what needs to be done, um,

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I think is an effective way of maybe, uh,

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increasing the safety.

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So we have a motion to accept

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the resolution. Is that correct?

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We would, I, did somebody make a motion? No, we

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Would, I'm sorry. That's

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where ma'am we go from here.

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I would like to ask, you know, basically what would be

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Bill that have voted against it last chair,

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what would be your reason for not wanting that?

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And we have a volunteer. It costs us nothing.

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He's willing to go do the time.

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So I believe the last time we had 2, 2, 4, and three again.

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So my question would be,

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what would you have against this

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just for discussion purpose?

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Me personally, I'm not gonna stand

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in the way of it this time.

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My, my feelings have not changed.

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I still feel like PAC has its place

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and that's the way to go.

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And working with district property management,

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I think that's the way to go.

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Uh, working with law enforcement, you know, we had a,

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a terrible accident in 14 last week, I believe it was.

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So, but that was because someone ran a stop sign

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or rolled through a stop sign from what I heard anyway.

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But, um, you know, those things are still gonna be there.

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But, um, that's why I asked the questions.

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And the duckett, you know,

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because I don't know,

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no one else has said, oh, I would do it.

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I would do it. John said he would do it.

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So if John decided in the future he didn't want to do it,

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I wanted to make sure we were not locked into it.

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'cause I still feel very strongly

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that we have a process already that takes care of this.

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But I won't stand personally, I won't stand in the way.

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Yeah, and I, and I agree with you,

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but the processes that we have outside

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of the multimodal group are to, to research

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and develop ideas to be sent to PA and stuff like that.

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So until PA or local government

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or law enforcements gets suggestions, they're,

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they're not really gonna do anything.

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So it's really just a matter of generating suggestions and,

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and giving them, um, giving 'em

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to the appropriate authorities.

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I, I make a, I move to, uh, accept resolution 25.

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I think it's 11. I don't have my glasses on. Yeah.

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Resolution 20 25 11. Is that it? Yes. Mm-hmm. I second it.

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All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

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Thank you. I appreciate it. It

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Good Morning board. Emily

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Mor, or I guess afternoon?

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No, Emily Morrison, purchasing department.

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Today I'm requesting approval

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to terminate agreement 24 B dash 0 24

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with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation for cut

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and patch asphalt repair services.

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This agreement provides localized asphalt repairs as needed

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to maintain district roadways.

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On April 28th, Tri-State issued a notice of its intent

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to terminate the contract due to operational capacity

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and management challenges,

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which is not an allowable reason for termination.

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Under this agreement, despite a formal request

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to resume work, the contractor failed to respond

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or to perform constituting non-performance.

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And at this time, staff is requesting approval to terminate

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for cause agreement 24 b dash 0 24

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with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation based on non-performance

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issues and initiate suspension from future solicitations per

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the district policy to maintain continuity of services.

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Staff will utilize an existing general maintenance agreement

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on an interim basis while a new

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solicitation can be processed.

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I'm here if you have any questions.

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So who would be taking their place?

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We have several contractor contractors

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underneath those maintenance agreements.

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So we would get quotes from the ones who are qualified

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to do this service and go with the lowest quotes.

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Any other questions? Do we have a motion

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I move to approve the termination of the non-performance

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of agreement ITV 24 Bravo 0 24 for the

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cut patch Asphalt repair services

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with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation.

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Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

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In opposed. Thank you.

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And now we're going to o Old

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Business. Yes, ma'am.

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The only item on old business, um,

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that is currently, um, outstanding is the,

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so concerns along Meson.

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Um, you should have received an email yesterday, um,

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that outlined a lot of the information that Mr.

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Mellinger is going to go through.

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I also did bring, um, you should have hard copies as well,

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just because I wasn't sure if you would've seen the

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email as of yesterday.

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Um, but if the board is, um, agreeable,

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then I will turn it over to Mr.

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Mellinger for an overview,

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Please.

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Good afternoon. Board of Supervisors,

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Ryan Mellinger, district Property Management.

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Um, so I think I'm not gonna go into detail

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about what was said on the email.

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I think that's pretty self-explanatory as far

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as the historical significance of, of

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how we've gotten to where we're at right now.

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Um, what I will say is also included was a, um,

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update on the nematodes that we had an issue with in a lot

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of areas that have, you know, further stressed a lot

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of the grass in, in along CIN

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and in, in front of, uh, Sawgrass.

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Um, the testing that we had done

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with the Nimitz Pro did prove fruitful and so it did work.

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And so we are currently right now working on getting all the

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troubled areas that lead to look stressed, bare,

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raw dirt taken care of and,

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and kind of addressed with that Nimitz Pro.

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Um, the other areas I've recently driven down that area,

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a lot of it is starting to green up right now.

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And so I think a lot of it is starting to come back.

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And so again, we're gonna address the areas that are

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directly affected by the nematodes within Nemitz Pro.

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Um, in conjunction with that, um, we have worked with ra,

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we've worked with a couple other companies

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as mentioned in the email, uh, Harold's

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and Turf Solutions to create a, uh,

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two different options that we can do.

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One of the things that we did find out during, uh,

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this whole testing, uh, period

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that we've had over the past couple months is

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that the organics are,

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are relatively poor in this area along meson.

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So the two fertilizer treatments are mixtures

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that we have created with Heralds

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and Turf Solutions, both separate, um, very much the same in

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what they're kind of giving, but they're using different

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manufacturing of chemicals.

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So we're gonna use those and test in two 20 acre areas.

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Um, and SPR iss gonna do that at no cost to anybody

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and just see what works best, what really brings, uh,

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the turf back to where it needs to be.

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And so once we determine which one is gonna work best for

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that area, we're gonna go with that

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as the new regimented protocol for, for this, uh,

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pro Vista Grass that we have in the area.

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There will be areas where we'll have to, even

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after the Nimitz Pro is down

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and maybe we do some turf,

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the idea is the grass will gore back.

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We were already prepared that we have budgeted for, uh,

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sod removals and stuff like that per year, per budget.

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And so we're already ready to any of those areas

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that don't come back in a timely

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manner and take a little bit longer.

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We can go ahead if need be

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and replace the SOD in those areas.

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Um, and so that's already, we've already got that scheduled

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and taken care of as well, or plan to do that if need be.

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Um, I just wanted to run by, it wasn't on the uh, email,

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but I do want to give you kind of a timeframe

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and a schedule of when the applications will be

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for the fertilizers, um, Nimitz Pro and,

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and testing and anywhere that shows signs

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of it's gonna be done immediately.

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So that's currently, you know, underway.

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Um, the week of July 7th SPR plans

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to put about 20 acres sprayed with a mixture of Harold's Mix

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and Turf Solutions Mix.

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Again, this is a test just to see

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what works best in these areas

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and we'll go to the one that that works best.

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Um, the week of July 21st, we're gonna go with the Merit

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and a Ferta Gold on the entire property.

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Not just in the troublesome areas, but everywhere.

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Um, and this is just a regular scheduled, uh, application.

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August 4th, we're gonna come back

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and we're gonna do another spray of the Herald's Mix

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and Turf Solutions mix in those two

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suggested areas that we're gonna do it at.

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I don't know where they're at right now, but I will get you

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that information so you can drive by

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and see if it works or not.

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Um, September 1st we're gonna do another, uh, 20 acres,

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or we're gonna spray those exact same 20 acres.

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So we're doing pretty much three applications of

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that Herald's Mix and Turf Solutions mix.

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Um, and then on September 8th with the Ferta Gold

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and Cow Mag, we're gonna do the entire property.

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And in September what we're gonna do is we're gonna review

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the entire roadway of meson.

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We're gonna test any

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and try to see if we have any, any activities

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of nematodes in any areas, see if how well the, uh,

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fertilizer solution mix worked.

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Um, and then we will pick which one we want.

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And then in October we will begin replacing SOD as needed.

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After all this is said

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and done, if we need to replace any sod,

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we'll go ahead and replace sod.

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Um, and then we'll figure out which, which one does it.

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Now when we replace the side, we'll be sure to kind

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of till in some command soil, which will help bolster the,

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uh, the organics in that area as well.

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So we've got a pretty good plan moving forward.

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This is something that's been comprised by the hematologist,

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um, and turf doctors

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and stuff like that up at uf, also with Harolds

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and Turf Solutions and SR.

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And so we've been very diligent

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and everybody's been very willing

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to work towards a solution for this area.

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So I think we've got a good plan moving forward.

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It's just gonna take a couple months.

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I, like I said, I think a lot of the areas are starting

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to green up down there, but there's still some troublesome

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spots that we're gonna pay attention to.

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So, but we'll, we'll stay on top of it.

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I have a question about the Pro Vista Ator came

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and said they tested our alarm to make sure it was Pro Vista

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because they took this weed killer down,

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it kills everything else except for Pro Vista.

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Mm-hmm. And I guess that's a new development.

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Is that something that you're aware of

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or is that, do they just flow and smoke?

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Well, Privista the way it was designed was to be able to

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withstand a lot of that weed treatment that's on there.

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Some of the other, the floor tam grass

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and some of the other grasses that are out there,

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like the hay and stuff, they, they're gonna be,

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they're not designed for that.

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So that's why the initial use of prota was good.

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Um, that's what they thought was gonna happen,

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but it's just, it's too much of a stress grass

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and it's been causing issues in that area.

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So, um, really

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what we're seeing is the provista a slow growing grass.

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All the stress that we've had on it from the emails,

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it's the fungus, it's the drought, it's the nematodes,

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it's the mole, uh, the mole crickets, the, all

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that stuff is causing issues and stressing even further.

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It's not able to recoup fast enough. Does that make sense?

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So, so that's where it's just yellowing and,

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and dying in a lot of spots.

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We had some of our grass just on one side replaced

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with the han and I have to cut that three times a week

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compared to one time a week with the other stuff.

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So, yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Mr.

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Uh, Miller, thank you for this. Yeah.

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Thank you for all this information. Absolutely.

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There's a few questions I have in there

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and you saved me a lot

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'cause I have my presentation ready, so I'm not gonna read

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that today since I already have this, um, going backwards,

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you know, I'm almost gonna scratch my head.

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'cause we brought this up 19 months ago

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and I encourage people to just go by and look at my lawn.

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So I did follow further gator protocol.

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We have the same soil.

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I don't believe there's magic soil with me

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or throughout the whole district.

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It's a sandy soil, an nematodes are present in there.

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And you've already confirmed that by your, uh,

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studies from U-F-I-F-A-S.

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Okay. This is, they've been around forever. Okay.

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And I'm glad you're using the command soil and put it down.

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And the, uh, the chemical you're looking for,

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John is called Glos ate.

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I believe that the developer put this sawd down on purpose.

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It is a slower growing sawd.

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It is a long, it is a healthier sawd.

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It is Gly ate tolerant and what's the other sawd?

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We have a north, what'd you say that grass was?

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Floor 10? No, the um, ones that were planted up

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Above. Oh, Bahamian stuff.

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Bahamian. So when that gets in your,

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in your grass, it will come up.

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Okay. And this is, it's not Roundup

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and I've got my whole neighborhood doing it now,

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but you hit that with that glyphosate and it kills that out.

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And being that separates carrying their tractors back

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and forth, the lawnmowers, it's in their decks.

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It will do that. And to the point of flora cam, yeah.

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It, it is a, it's a faster growing grass.

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This grass that develop actually, if my correct, if my, uh,

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research is correct and I believe it is,

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the developer was smart to put this down, the pro vista,

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to stay away from the flora town

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because it's slower growing.

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It requires less maintenance, it requires less water

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and it actually is a preferred sod for what we were trying

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to achieve down here to be more Florida natural.

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So this would've handled everything that we need

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to have once established.

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So that takes two or three years.

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But anyway, going back against that,

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I just had a few questions for you.

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Um, due to extensive drought

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and limits on irrigation water availability

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to permit restrictions

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and turf with further stress, I would have to ask you about

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that because I believe we,

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I've asked you if there's ever any water restrictions

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to the areas of you said no.

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No. There's, there hasn't been any water restrictions, so,

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so I don't know why that's in this letter.

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Why would that be in there? That it says, uh,

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chemical treatments for Spur were initially attempted but

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provided inefficient as to we outgrew these efforts

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and, uh, spread extensively.

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Additionally, due to extended drought

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and limits on air irrigation, water availability,

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permit restrictions, and tur further stress,

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Regardless if we have water restrictions,

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we're still limited on how much irrigation

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that we can use based on our permits.

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Okay, well that's, I thank you for clearing that up

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'cause that's where I was a little confused.

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Um, organic compounds great. Mm-hmm.

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Because I know that's what we need in the sandy soil.

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Um, I'm glad you involved invited Dr. Crow here.

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That's fantastic. Um,

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environmental sustainability could not be implemented.

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I've, I've looked into that when we first started

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because people, uh,

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would tell me I put more stuff down

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on my lawn than anyone else.

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My lawn's the same lawn, it's established.

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I did get a little bit of the green grass.

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I just put um, mill orite on it or black cows.

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So I'm glad you're doing that. That'll correct that.

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Um, the question as I go through there again,

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and this goes back to Mr.

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Harris's statement, uh, explicitly on the public record

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that there would be no cost incurred

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by district 13 for project wide.

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So that's my question is Mr. Harris stated this,

506
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this has been going on well before you Mr.

507
00:22:46.325 --> 00:22:48.165
Millinger and before the other gentleman

508
00:22:48.515 --> 00:22:50.925
that was stated on public record that there be no cost.

509
00:22:50.925 --> 00:22:52.485
So I'd like this board to be aware of that.

510
00:22:52.825 --> 00:22:55.285
Why would this board accept any cost, additional cost?

511
00:22:55.795 --> 00:22:58.205
This is a, so this is, that could have been put down.

512
00:22:59.035 --> 00:23:01.405
OIDs is not a new, uh, hazard.

513
00:23:01.985 --> 00:23:04.245
Um, as far as the watering, you know, the,

514
00:23:04.265 --> 00:23:06.565
and again, if we go around and I look at this neighborhoods

515
00:23:06.625 --> 00:23:08.685
and I have asked people to come to the mic

516
00:23:08.745 --> 00:23:10.485
and say, what did you use on your grass?

517
00:23:10.595 --> 00:23:12.165
Because your two lawns are gorgeous

518
00:23:12.185 --> 00:23:13.645
and other lawns in the neighborhood are not.

519
00:23:14.345 --> 00:23:15.605
The one went to Home Depot

520
00:23:16.595 --> 00:23:18.015
and got on their fertilized schedule.

521
00:23:18.015 --> 00:23:19.375
Another one's on site one

522
00:23:19.375 --> 00:23:20.655
and got on their fertilized schedule.

523
00:23:20.715 --> 00:23:22.095
So that's where I'm just scratching my head.

524
00:23:22.315 --> 00:23:24.775
And I'm not trying to be the stick in the mud here,

525
00:23:25.075 --> 00:23:27.735
but when it comes to being financially responsible to our,

526
00:23:27.835 --> 00:23:29.935
our, our, uh, our people or,

527
00:23:29.955 --> 00:23:31.975
or financially to this board to be in place,

528
00:23:32.675 --> 00:23:34.575
if everything was taken up to this point,

529
00:23:34.855 --> 00:23:36.175
I wouldn't have a problem with spending

530
00:23:36.175 --> 00:23:37.295
additional funding on it.

531
00:23:37.355 --> 00:23:39.735
But SR was under contract to take care of this

532
00:23:40.035 --> 00:23:41.535
and this is something that was not new.

533
00:23:42.195 --> 00:23:44.015
So that's why I'm just kind of bringing this up

534
00:23:44.015 --> 00:23:45.605
to the board if there's anything passed.

535
00:23:45.705 --> 00:23:48.645
And at the very end of this, you bring up that, uh,

536
00:23:49.595 --> 00:23:50.605
presented for review

537
00:23:50.605 --> 00:23:53.005
and consideration, the project wide Committee Committee.

538
00:23:53.065 --> 00:23:56.725
And this falls under the purview project wide, not CDD 13.

539
00:23:56.825 --> 00:23:58.685
So will this not be discussed with this board anymore?

540
00:23:59.555 --> 00:24:01.495
That's up to the board and to the chair.

541
00:24:01.795 --> 00:24:04.415
It doesn't fall under the purview as in you

542
00:24:04.415 --> 00:24:05.535
through district 13.

543
00:24:06.185 --> 00:24:08.575
Don't pay out of your budget for this item

544
00:24:08.795 --> 00:24:10.535
or have purview over this item.

545
00:24:10.635 --> 00:24:14.855
As far as um, contracts, it is district 13 property

546
00:24:15.155 --> 00:24:16.495
and it would be up to the board if

547
00:24:16.495 --> 00:24:17.575
we continue discussing it.

548
00:24:17.915 --> 00:24:21.055
But as far as a decision to change

549
00:24:21.195 --> 00:24:23.375
or do something different, that would be

550
00:24:23.375 --> 00:24:24.455
through project wide.

551
00:24:24.515 --> 00:24:26.855
And you pay through that, through your allocation

552
00:24:26.855 --> 00:24:27.975
to the project wide budget.

553
00:24:28.445 --> 00:24:30.735
Yeah. Okay. Well I'd like to just speak to the board now.

554
00:24:30.735 --> 00:24:34.135
That's still 62% of our budget goes to project wide. Okay.

555
00:24:34.135 --> 00:24:35.895
So I think we should still have a voice in this

556
00:24:35.895 --> 00:24:37.335
and be able to discuss this and have Mr.

557
00:24:37.485 --> 00:24:38.895
Noer come up. And again,

558
00:24:39.175 --> 00:24:40.295
I appreciate everything you're doing,

559
00:24:40.295 --> 00:24:42.375
everything you just lined out here from 800%.

560
00:24:42.915 --> 00:24:44.455
The only thing I would really have a problem

561
00:24:44.485 --> 00:24:46.975
with is it's gonna cost our constituents

562
00:24:47.035 --> 00:24:48.775
or homeowners extra extra funds.

563
00:24:48.795 --> 00:24:50.455
And I would disagree that they should have

564
00:24:50.455 --> 00:24:52.455
to pay one penny at this point being this

565
00:24:52.455 --> 00:24:53.495
was brought up for months.

566
00:24:53.645 --> 00:24:55.855
This has been an ongoing issue for me

567
00:24:55.995 --> 00:24:58.975
and believe me, it's been exhausting for me and frustrating.

568
00:24:59.355 --> 00:25:00.355
So

569
00:25:02.795 --> 00:25:05.735
Are you going To go to CAC and ask him for more money?

570
00:25:07.955 --> 00:25:09.535
Not, no, sir. Not, not right now.

571
00:25:09.905 --> 00:25:13.815
Right now funds, correct. It's, it's all within the budget.

572
00:25:13.835 --> 00:25:16.895
But at no point in time in, you know, Carrie,

573
00:25:16.895 --> 00:25:19.415
please correct me, we haven't, all

574
00:25:19.415 --> 00:25:20.775
of this stuff has been done under warranty.

575
00:25:20.775 --> 00:25:23.575
So I don't think that anybody has been affected by this.

576
00:25:23.855 --> 00:25:25.535
SPR has done it at their cost when it comes

577
00:25:25.535 --> 00:25:27.535
to all the testing, the NEM Tory

578
00:25:27.535 --> 00:25:29.895
or the NE Mitz Pro that we've done tests on.

579
00:25:30.075 --> 00:25:33.295
And then also SPR has done, it's all been at their cost.

580
00:25:33.555 --> 00:25:38.055
And so there hasn't been really any money incurred right now

581
00:25:38.125 --> 00:25:40.695
that has to pertain to this by anybody.

582
00:25:41.035 --> 00:25:42.215
So that, that's correct.

583
00:25:42.435 --> 00:25:45.455
As of now, everything that has been done has been paid

584
00:25:45.455 --> 00:25:47.455
through, through the normal contract pricing

585
00:25:47.605 --> 00:25:49.455
that is paid through Project Y.

586
00:25:51.235 --> 00:25:56.055
And if this new system works that they're going to try, then

587
00:25:56.955 --> 00:25:58.015
it, that will continue.

588
00:25:58.275 --> 00:26:00.375
Now because it's a different product, we may have

589
00:26:00.375 --> 00:26:02.575
to look at the specs of the contract that we have

590
00:26:02.575 --> 00:26:03.655
and if it's not in there,

591
00:26:03.845 --> 00:26:06.575
determine if it's a comparable spec

592
00:26:06.575 --> 00:26:07.975
or if something needs to be changed.

593
00:26:08.195 --> 00:26:09.495
But that should be minimal

594
00:26:09.495 --> 00:26:10.975
and I'm, I'm sure we can work through it.

595
00:26:12.605 --> 00:26:14.575
What we indicated of if we go

596
00:26:14.575 --> 00:26:16.935
to project wide is if this doesn't work,

597
00:26:17.475 --> 00:26:20.255
if this doesn't work, then we may get to a point

598
00:26:20.665 --> 00:26:24.575
where our recommendation is to no longer keep trying things

599
00:26:24.605 --> 00:26:27.095
that don't work and resaw the area.

600
00:26:27.795 --> 00:26:29.975
If that's the case, if that ends up being

601
00:26:30.165 --> 00:26:32.775
what we think is the best option, we would go

602
00:26:32.775 --> 00:26:35.695
to project wide and we would say, this is

603
00:26:36.045 --> 00:26:38.095
what we've been doing for the last two years.

604
00:26:38.205 --> 00:26:39.455
This is where we're at now

605
00:26:39.595 --> 00:26:41.215
and we think we're just going

606
00:26:41.215 --> 00:26:43.325
to continue throwing money down the drain.

607
00:26:43.385 --> 00:26:46.525
Or CPR is finally going to get to a point where they say,

608
00:26:46.595 --> 00:26:48.285
look, we can't fix this.

609
00:26:48.395 --> 00:26:50.165
This is bad, bad turf.

610
00:26:50.425 --> 00:26:52.605
I'm not saying we're there yet, but if that comes to

611
00:26:52.605 --> 00:26:55.765
that point, at that point we would go to project wide

612
00:26:55.905 --> 00:26:57.205
and give them the situation

613
00:26:57.205 --> 00:27:00.445
and say at this point it's our recommendation to re side.

614
00:27:00.445 --> 00:27:03.885
Whether it's in pieces, whether it's as a whole, um,

615
00:27:03.905 --> 00:27:05.845
we would certainly look at the cost and the budget.

616
00:27:06.665 --> 00:27:09.245
That's when there could be potentially additional costs

617
00:27:09.475 --> 00:27:11.165
that would be borne by project wide,

618
00:27:11.175 --> 00:27:12.725
which is why we would go to them.

619
00:27:13.105 --> 00:27:14.965
We would continue to update you just

620
00:27:14.965 --> 00:27:16.685
because this has been here from inception.

621
00:27:17.265 --> 00:27:19.765
Um, but if at any point additional funds need

622
00:27:19.765 --> 00:27:21.725
to be expended, we would go to project wide.

623
00:27:21.995 --> 00:27:23.445
Hopefully we don't get to there.

624
00:27:23.625 --> 00:27:25.685
But we wanted to make you aware that

625
00:27:25.685 --> 00:27:27.245
that is a potential option,

626
00:27:27.495 --> 00:27:30.165
which is why when we sent this update out,

627
00:27:30.185 --> 00:27:32.045
we also included project wide on it.

628
00:27:33.785 --> 00:27:36.435
Well, previously in project wide, I mean none

629
00:27:36.435 --> 00:27:37.995
of the board members were, uh,

630
00:27:38.215 --> 00:27:40.595
shy about talking about any area.

631
00:27:41.215 --> 00:27:44.035
So I mean, I know when I was on there they wasn't talking

632
00:27:44.515 --> 00:27:48.355
specifically about the grass and CD 13,

633
00:27:48.455 --> 00:27:51.235
but has there been any discussion in project wide about

634
00:27:51.235 --> 00:27:52.395
what's going on down here?

635
00:27:52.395 --> 00:27:55.635
Because those guys all play golf down here too, so they talk

636
00:27:55.895 --> 00:27:59.635
Uh, No, mainly just the golf courses, not any

637
00:27:59.635 --> 00:28:00.755
of the public areas.

638
00:28:00.855 --> 00:28:04.475
Mm-hmm. But nothing's been brought up to us either.

639
00:28:04.695 --> 00:28:06.875
So there, there hasn't been any, you know,

640
00:28:07.315 --> 00:28:08.795
expenses requested or

641
00:28:08.915 --> 00:28:09.915
Anything like that. No, I understand

642
00:28:09.915 --> 00:28:11.995
that. Uh, it's just, I'm just saying

643
00:28:11.995 --> 00:28:14.235
that typically Steve Bogo will say,

644
00:28:14.235 --> 00:28:15.515
well I was playing golf down

645
00:28:15.535 --> 00:28:17.955
and all was like, grass looks terrible, you know,

646
00:28:17.955 --> 00:28:20.075
so I was wondering if anyone had men

647
00:28:20.175 --> 00:28:21.395
has mentioned it through this.

648
00:28:21.795 --> 00:28:24.515
I mean even if we go back the 19 months, I mean like I said,

649
00:28:24.515 --> 00:28:26.235
when I was there it wasn't. And

650
00:28:27.065 --> 00:28:28.195
Just, just golf courses.

651
00:28:31.875 --> 00:28:32.835
I think. Kim, one other thing,

652
00:28:32.895 --> 00:28:34.235
um, and I don't know if this is it.

653
00:28:34.275 --> 00:28:39.195
I asked for a, uh, accounting back 19 months

654
00:28:39.495 --> 00:28:40.555
and I was just curious.

655
00:28:41.335 --> 00:28:45.075
Um, it was called, no, not on contractual plant enhancement,

656
00:28:45.535 --> 00:28:49.835
uh, paid to SRA on uh, 24 25 and 2125.

657
00:28:50.575 --> 00:28:53.595
Uh, my first question is it was floor tam so replaced.

658
00:28:54.395 --> 00:28:56.435
I was just wondering why we didn't just put in Pro Vista

659
00:28:57.135 --> 00:28:58.395
to try and keep it uniform.

660
00:28:58.635 --> 00:29:01.115
'cause I know we did that out on, we have a foram

661
00:29:01.135 --> 00:29:03.475
and we have a Pro Vista and they two different types

662
00:29:04.135 --> 00:29:06.435
and then the cost was $4,075.

663
00:29:06.575 --> 00:29:07.755
But I also noticed in there

664
00:29:07.755 --> 00:29:09.075
that when they're breaking it down,

665
00:29:09.095 --> 00:29:11.115
and I'm not an accountant, I depend on them,

666
00:29:11.385 --> 00:29:13.675
there's like pine trees replaced or something.

667
00:29:13.735 --> 00:29:15.595
So I'm, I don't know if that fell under that curtain

668
00:29:15.855 --> 00:29:18.035
And I can explain that a lot of that time, a lot of

669
00:29:18.035 --> 00:29:19.715
that is plant enhancements

670
00:29:19.715 --> 00:29:20.915
or replacements that happen at

671
00:29:20.915 --> 00:29:22.075
entryways or something like that.

672
00:29:22.135 --> 00:29:25.115
And so for particularly your areas, the Villa entryways,

673
00:29:25.255 --> 00:29:27.635
if we did like a large plant enhancement

674
00:29:27.635 --> 00:29:28.715
or plant replacement area,

675
00:29:28.715 --> 00:29:30.555
we're gonna be replacing sod probably do.

676
00:29:30.975 --> 00:29:33.475
And we're going back with the Flo tam.

677
00:29:33.585 --> 00:29:35.355
It's really hard once they start ing it up

678
00:29:35.375 --> 00:29:36.435
to kind of tell a difference.

679
00:29:36.775 --> 00:29:38.115
But we're going back with the Flo Tam

680
00:29:38.115 --> 00:29:40.315
because we haven't had any issues with Flo Tam,

681
00:29:40.655 --> 00:29:42.765
the Prota is the one that we've had so many issues with.

682
00:29:42.765 --> 00:29:45.485
So I, I would hate to really put back something

683
00:29:45.485 --> 00:29:46.845
that we continually have issues with,

684
00:29:47.545 --> 00:29:48.805
you know, as, as we move on.

685
00:29:48.865 --> 00:29:51.605
So we wanna make sure that we're replacing it with Foram.

686
00:29:51.715 --> 00:29:52.925
Okay. Moving forward. Yeah.

687
00:29:55.445 --> 00:29:59.305
So after how long can you not tell then that you,

688
00:29:59.535 --> 00:30:00.745
that it's a different color?

689
00:30:00.815 --> 00:30:02.025
What, between the Flo Tam

690
00:30:02.045 --> 00:30:04.265
and the Pro Vista, is that a very long period?

691
00:30:05.065 --> 00:30:06.265
I, it depends upon, I mean,

692
00:30:06.265 --> 00:30:07.425
it depends upon where you start it.

693
00:30:07.565 --> 00:30:09.985
So if the Pro Vista, I mean if you're replacing a certain

694
00:30:09.985 --> 00:30:12.225
section, you've got Pro Vista that's stressed out mm-hmm.

695
00:30:12.305 --> 00:30:14.105
Right next to it, it's gonna be pretty immediate, right?

696
00:30:14.135 --> 00:30:17.425
Yeah. And then if we're fertilizing it, if it's treating it

697
00:30:17.425 --> 00:30:19.945
for Nimitz Pro or nematodes that's gonna bring it back.

698
00:30:21.835 --> 00:30:23.385
Don't quote me on it. It may be a couple

699
00:30:23.385 --> 00:30:24.625
months, it may be a couple weeks.

700
00:30:24.685 --> 00:30:27.585
It just depends upon how fast that wants to, to grow

701
00:30:27.615 --> 00:30:28.625
with it being slow growing.

702
00:30:29.725 --> 00:30:31.825
It may take a month or two, but, um,

703
00:30:33.365 --> 00:30:35.385
but again, I once it greens up

704
00:30:35.385 --> 00:30:37.425
and I think if you go out to some of the areas in there,

705
00:30:37.525 --> 00:30:40.105
you, you, it'd be hard press to tell between the two.

706
00:30:40.245 --> 00:30:41.425
Um, they're just both St.

707
00:30:41.425 --> 00:30:42.865
Augustine's just different strains. Right?

708
00:30:42.865 --> 00:30:44.065
Right. Yeah, we have 'em both.

709
00:30:44.585 --> 00:30:46.105
'cause we had Fluor 10 replaced

710
00:30:46.205 --> 00:30:49.865
and the only difference is Fluor tan grows a lot faster,

711
00:30:50.165 --> 00:30:51.905
but other than that you can't, after it's cut,

712
00:30:51.925 --> 00:30:53.705
you can't tell, can't really tell.

713
00:30:54.095 --> 00:30:56.595
Okay, great. Same, same color,

714
00:30:56.745 --> 00:30:58.355
same kind of blades and everything.

715
00:30:58.375 --> 00:30:59.375
Mm-hmm.

716
00:31:02.485 --> 00:31:05.975
Just one, one thing I just want to get clear in my head.

717
00:31:05.995 --> 00:31:09.375
You said that they're going to be experimenting with both

718
00:31:09.375 --> 00:31:12.735
of those, um, different fertilizer retailer

719
00:31:12.795 --> 00:31:14.095
or whatever in the 20

720
00:31:14.185 --> 00:31:16.255
Acres That's on them.

721
00:31:16.555 --> 00:31:19.575
That's on them. Yes sir. Okay. Yes sir. Okay.

722
00:31:20.955 --> 00:31:22.375
And then, yeah, they, they've done a,

723
00:31:22.375 --> 00:31:23.615
they've done a phenomenal job

724
00:31:23.675 --> 00:31:26.055
and they, they're, as I said, you know, one

725
00:31:26.055 --> 00:31:27.215
of our top contractors

726
00:31:27.435 --> 00:31:28.975
and so they do a tremendous job in

727
00:31:28.975 --> 00:31:30.375
other locations within the villages.

728
00:31:30.395 --> 00:31:32.415
And this has been something that's perplexed them

729
00:31:32.415 --> 00:31:33.615
as well as well as us.

730
00:31:33.675 --> 00:31:36.295
And we've been diligent on trying to put our heads together

731
00:31:36.295 --> 00:31:38.175
to come up with the po like the best solution.

732
00:31:38.795 --> 00:31:40.575
Um, and like as Ms.

733
00:31:40.575 --> 00:31:42.695
Carrie said, we're gonna get to a point

734
00:31:42.695 --> 00:31:44.455
where we're gonna be hitting our heads against the wall.

735
00:31:44.515 --> 00:31:47.735
So we're gonna have to rip the bandaid off at some point.

736
00:31:47.845 --> 00:31:50.655
Hopefully one of these two mixers are gonna work.

737
00:31:51.165 --> 00:31:52.895
Just to kind of go into a little bit of a detail.

738
00:31:52.985 --> 00:31:54.215
One's a root enhancement.

739
00:31:54.215 --> 00:31:56.895
There's organics in the, in the form of a seaweed

740
00:31:56.895 --> 00:31:57.895
or a kelp extract.

741
00:31:57.915 --> 00:31:59.815
Mm-hmm. So we're really kind of,

742
00:32:00.225 --> 00:32:02.535
we're really throwing a lot of stuff at it.

743
00:32:02.915 --> 00:32:05.935
And that's another thing too. We want to be very mindful of

744
00:32:05.955 --> 00:32:08.495
how much we throw at it because you could further stress

745
00:32:08.495 --> 00:32:09.855
everything and the grass itself.

746
00:32:09.875 --> 00:32:12.255
So I think we've kind of have seen a combination

747
00:32:12.255 --> 00:32:14.295
of everything, kind of a perfect storm.

748
00:32:14.675 --> 00:32:16.335
And as they're doing this, are they taking

749
00:32:16.415 --> 00:32:18.775
pictures so that you Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Okay. So

750
00:32:19.085 --> 00:32:20.775
What we're gonna be doing is we take pictures

751
00:32:20.775 --> 00:32:21.855
constantly of that area.

752
00:32:22.275 --> 00:32:25.055
Um, and we would be pulling samples, uh, soil samples

753
00:32:25.155 --> 00:32:26.615
and grass samples just to make sure

754
00:32:26.805 --> 00:32:28.775
that everything is getting to where it needs to be.

755
00:32:29.155 --> 00:32:30.895
And SPR is gonna be doing that as well.

756
00:32:30.925 --> 00:32:33.175
They're being very di diligent on this.

757
00:32:33.515 --> 00:32:35.455
We probably had about three or four meetings about this

758
00:32:35.455 --> 00:32:38.055
topic since we last talked about it.

759
00:32:38.055 --> 00:32:40.125
Mm-hmm. So we've got, we're everybody's

760
00:32:41.155 --> 00:32:42.845
heading in the right direction, so,

761
00:32:43.555 --> 00:32:44.555
Okay. Are we

762
00:32:44.555 --> 00:32:45.645
done with that Mr. Nor?

763
00:32:45.965 --> 00:32:48.755
'cause I have one more thing. The, uh, water

764
00:32:48.755 --> 00:32:51.555
that we emailed about, um, we discussed the board meeting.

765
00:32:51.575 --> 00:32:52.675
You said you'd send me a picture.

766
00:32:52.935 --> 00:32:54.555
We are aware of the standing water in this area

767
00:32:54.555 --> 00:32:57.035
and I have our team working on the drainage system in this

768
00:32:57.035 --> 00:33:00.475
area, if at all possible, on 6 17 25,

769
00:33:00.905 --> 00:33:01.955
that water's still there.

770
00:33:02.055 --> 00:33:04.675
Did you get to any cut solution or anything yet?

771
00:33:04.855 --> 00:33:05.955
We haven't got any solution.

772
00:33:06.015 --> 00:33:07.395
I'd have to reach out to our, uh,

773
00:33:07.395 --> 00:33:09.115
infrastructure team or our landscape team.

774
00:33:09.195 --> 00:33:11.995
I know that they've discussed it with the contractor in

775
00:33:11.995 --> 00:33:13.155
that area to try to put some

776
00:33:13.155 --> 00:33:14.275
French strains or something in there.

777
00:33:14.525 --> 00:33:16.715
We're just trying to come up with the best possible solution

778
00:33:16.715 --> 00:33:17.995
that's kind of less evasive.

779
00:33:18.535 --> 00:33:20.195
Um, that's, it's just a hard

780
00:33:20.205 --> 00:33:21.555
Could we tie into the sewer there?

781
00:33:21.555 --> 00:33:22.995
Maybe? Are you allowed to do that?

782
00:33:23.775 --> 00:33:24.995
I'd have to, I'd have to get

783
00:33:24.995 --> 00:33:26.355
with the few people to figure out.

784
00:33:26.355 --> 00:33:28.075
Okay. Not the sewer. We may be able to do something

785
00:33:28.075 --> 00:33:29.315
with like the storm water system.

786
00:33:29.345 --> 00:33:30.315
Yeah. Um, but that's

787
00:33:30.315 --> 00:33:31.315
something that we'll have to, because once

788
00:33:31.535 --> 00:33:33.915
It gets really dry there, but I mean it, I was driving

789
00:33:33.975 --> 00:33:35.875
by again genetics, so I appreciate that.

790
00:33:36.255 --> 00:33:37.435
And where are we talking about?

791
00:33:37.865 --> 00:33:39.235
It's right as you're going into the tunnels

792
00:33:39.235 --> 00:33:42.515
where we had the damage, the tunnel, it's just

793
00:33:42.515 --> 00:33:45.515
that one area is the low spot and it just holds the mud

794
00:33:45.515 --> 00:33:48.435
and, you know, my concern is someone falls over and,

795
00:33:48.455 --> 00:33:49.355
and next thing you know,

796
00:33:49.355 --> 00:33:50.515
we got a problem. I just wanted Sure. We

797
00:33:50.515 --> 00:33:52.595
Were still talking about the tunnels, so, or talking about

798
00:33:52.595 --> 00:33:53.595
It again.

799
00:33:53.995 --> 00:33:56.035
I it's just there, you know, so Ryan,

800
00:33:56.235 --> 00:33:57.595
I was talking about, so I appreciate that.

801
00:33:59.185 --> 00:34:02.315
Okay, so on the old business I brought up

802
00:34:02.885 --> 00:34:04.075
about the dragon boats,

803
00:34:04.095 --> 00:34:06.195
and I think it was the next day some,

804
00:34:06.255 --> 00:34:07.915
the guy called and said they moved the boat.

805
00:34:07.975 --> 00:34:09.195
So I appreciate that. Thank you

806
00:34:09.215 --> 00:34:10.715
for taking care of that. Yes, sir.

807
00:34:11.495 --> 00:34:14.555
And there are several other updates on old business

808
00:34:14.555 --> 00:34:17.475
that has been attached that we provided via email, um,

809
00:34:17.475 --> 00:34:19.915
and are on the agenda for the benefit of the residents.

810
00:34:20.135 --> 00:34:21.755
And we're happy to discuss any of those.

811
00:34:21.775 --> 00:34:22.995
If the board has questions,

812
00:34:25.185 --> 00:34:26.235
I'll second what John said.

813
00:34:26.475 --> 00:34:27.835
Anything in the email, I gotta thank staff

814
00:34:27.835 --> 00:34:31.115
because I mean, it's, it's pretty boom, boom, you know,

815
00:34:31.215 --> 00:34:34.275
and I, I don't know if I know, I said appreciate you

816
00:34:34.275 --> 00:34:35.995
to carry and Ryan, I appreciate you too.

817
00:34:35.995 --> 00:34:37.315
It's just that once you get an answer,

818
00:34:37.575 --> 00:34:39.235
it makes my life a lot easier.

819
00:34:39.285 --> 00:34:41.795
Being in the community, being in the bible studies, being

820
00:34:41.795 --> 00:34:43.115
with everybody, and they look at you,

821
00:34:43.115 --> 00:34:44.155
what is this, this, and this?

822
00:34:44.385 --> 00:34:46.995
Then I can say, purview or not, you know, or this or that,

823
00:34:47.135 --> 00:34:49.155
or we are having a solution, please email.

824
00:34:49.975 --> 00:34:52.435
And then it, it just dives out. So thank you guys.

825
00:34:52.605 --> 00:34:53.035
Thank you.

826
00:34:58.635 --> 00:35:00.885
Okay. And so our next is informational items.

827
00:35:01.035 --> 00:35:02.285
Does anyone have any questions

828
00:35:02.305 --> 00:35:04.165
or discussion on the financial statements?

829
00:35:05.125 --> 00:35:10.125
IVPM

830
00:35:10.445 --> 00:35:11.765
monthly report

831
00:35:14.065 --> 00:35:15.845
for Citizens Bank and Seacoast?

832
00:35:20.595 --> 00:35:22.375
Yes, ma'am. Um, the only item

833
00:35:22.375 --> 00:35:25.855
that I have under my report is a discussion on the

834
00:35:25.985 --> 00:35:27.695
compliance complaint process.

835
00:35:28.555 --> 00:35:31.815
As you are aware, district 13 is not yet eligible

836
00:35:31.875 --> 00:35:34.695
to adopt a rule for deed compliance yet.

837
00:35:35.115 --> 00:35:36.255
Um, in order for that

838
00:35:36.255 --> 00:35:39.005
to take place under state statute chapter one 90,

839
00:35:39.265 --> 00:35:41.205
the majority of the board has to be elected

840
00:35:41.205 --> 00:35:42.765
through a qualified election process.

841
00:35:43.345 --> 00:35:45.805
And that will take place during your next election cycle.

842
00:35:46.475 --> 00:35:49.645
However, as you're aware, during many of your meetings,

843
00:35:49.645 --> 00:35:52.165
you have residents come and they have requests

844
00:35:52.305 --> 00:35:55.685
or suggestions on how you accept complaints.

845
00:35:56.825 --> 00:35:59.485
The majority of the residential districts, um,

846
00:35:59.795 --> 00:36:01.565
have adopted their rule and

847
00:36:01.565 --> 00:36:03.205
therefore the board chooses whether

848
00:36:03.205 --> 00:36:04.965
or not they're going to be, for example,

849
00:36:05.165 --> 00:36:07.085
a complaint driven process, whether

850
00:36:07.085 --> 00:36:09.165
or not they're going to accept anonymous complaints.

851
00:36:09.825 --> 00:36:12.445
Um, I had a conversation with the developer

852
00:36:12.445 --> 00:36:16.205
because we continue to have residents coming to district 13,

853
00:36:16.565 --> 00:36:20.525
14, and even 15 at this point, wanting the board to either

854
00:36:21.205 --> 00:36:23.085
consider changing it, to not allowing anonymous,

855
00:36:23.425 --> 00:36:26.045
or just having conversations about that in general.

856
00:36:26.665 --> 00:36:29.485
And although you are still not eligible to adopt a rule

857
00:36:29.485 --> 00:36:32.765
to enforce de compliance, the developer is willing

858
00:36:32.825 --> 00:36:35.685
to allow you if you so choose to change

859
00:36:35.945 --> 00:36:37.525
how you accept those complaints

860
00:36:37.945 --> 00:36:39.845
or how staff accepts those complaints.

861
00:36:40.625 --> 00:36:43.045
So if that is something that you would like to consider,

862
00:36:43.115 --> 00:36:45.565
what I would recommend is we put it on the agenda

863
00:36:45.745 --> 00:36:47.245
for next month so that the,

864
00:36:47.245 --> 00:36:49.805
your residents can have an opportunity to know you are going

865
00:36:49.805 --> 00:36:53.165
to discuss it and then you can actually, um,

866
00:36:53.915 --> 00:36:55.405
have conversations as to whether

867
00:36:55.405 --> 00:36:56.605
or not you would like to keep it

868
00:36:56.605 --> 00:36:59.805
as is in which we accept all complaints regardless

869
00:36:59.985 --> 00:37:01.765
of who it came from.

870
00:37:01.825 --> 00:37:03.805
We don't ask for names or any information.

871
00:37:04.345 --> 00:37:07.485
Um, some boards have that option.

872
00:37:07.915 --> 00:37:09.365
Some boards have chosen to

873
00:37:10.105 --> 00:37:12.165
not accept any anonymous complaints

874
00:37:12.305 --> 00:37:14.325
and they have to provide their name

875
00:37:14.345 --> 00:37:16.485
and information in order to file a complaint.

876
00:37:17.195 --> 00:37:20.285
There's a third option in which some boards have determined

877
00:37:20.635 --> 00:37:21.925
that they want to ensure

878
00:37:21.925 --> 00:37:23.805
that it is a district resident

879
00:37:24.085 --> 00:37:25.205
residing within their district.

880
00:37:25.785 --> 00:37:27.885
So if that is something that this board would like

881
00:37:27.885 --> 00:37:30.045
to consider, then we could put this on your agenda

882
00:37:30.045 --> 00:37:31.965
and have a presentation for it next month.

883
00:37:32.345 --> 00:37:33.605
And at that point, you would be able

884
00:37:33.605 --> 00:37:35.445
to direct staff if you would like us to change

885
00:37:35.465 --> 00:37:37.725
how we are accepting complaints within District 13.

886
00:37:39.755 --> 00:37:41.895
So one of my questions, would it be appropriate now

887
00:37:41.895 --> 00:37:43.135
or do we discuss it next month?

888
00:37:43.215 --> 00:37:45.135
I know in the past you've made some comments

889
00:37:45.285 --> 00:37:49.855
that there's pros and cons to both anonymous versus public.

890
00:37:50.035 --> 00:37:52.575
That's right. You know, is it appropriate to go ahead

891
00:37:52.575 --> 00:37:54.935
and discuss those now or should we wait?

892
00:37:55.125 --> 00:37:58.135
Sure. I I can give you a little preview of, of,

893
00:37:58.395 --> 00:37:59.535
um, the pros and cons.

894
00:38:01.575 --> 00:38:04.335
Historically, it was always staff's position

895
00:38:04.335 --> 00:38:06.375
that you should accept anonymous complaint.

896
00:38:06.795 --> 00:38:07.935
Um, and that is

897
00:38:07.935 --> 00:38:11.205
because when you purchased your home,

898
00:38:11.545 --> 00:38:13.525
you sign your deed restrictions

899
00:38:13.585 --> 00:38:15.285
and you agree to those deed restrictions.

900
00:38:15.905 --> 00:38:19.285
It doesn't matter why you are violating the deed restriction

901
00:38:19.285 --> 00:38:21.405
or which one it is or who's telling on you,

902
00:38:21.785 --> 00:38:23.165
you're either in compliance

903
00:38:23.165 --> 00:38:24.925
with your deed restrictions or you're not.

904
00:38:25.145 --> 00:38:28.045
And it shouldn't matter who is filing that complaint.

905
00:38:28.785 --> 00:38:32.845
Um, we've also had issues where residents have come

906
00:38:32.845 --> 00:38:35.685
to the board who do not allow anonymous complaints

907
00:38:36.345 --> 00:38:38.925
and express to the board that they are scared

908
00:38:38.945 --> 00:38:40.005
to file a complaint.

909
00:38:40.155 --> 00:38:42.605
They don't want their neighbor to know that it was them

910
00:38:43.065 --> 00:38:44.525
or they're friends with their neighbor

911
00:38:44.525 --> 00:38:46.845
and they don't wanna cause any, any, um,

912
00:38:47.325 --> 00:38:48.445
animosity between the two of them.

913
00:38:48.625 --> 00:38:50.125
But at the end of the day, they deserve

914
00:38:50.125 --> 00:38:51.765
to have the deed restrictions in force

915
00:38:51.835 --> 00:38:53.085
that they purchased into.

916
00:38:53.905 --> 00:38:55.325
So those are some of the pros

917
00:38:55.325 --> 00:38:56.725
of accepting anonymous complaints.

918
00:38:57.305 --> 00:38:58.405
Um, I'll also tell you

919
00:38:58.405 --> 00:39:01.205
because you're not as familiar with our process is that we,

920
00:39:01.825 --> 00:39:05.215
we never receive a complaint

921
00:39:05.515 --> 00:39:07.975
and then automatically start sending letters

922
00:39:08.075 --> 00:39:09.095
or threatening letters

923
00:39:09.155 --> 00:39:10.215
or we're gonna fine you,

924
00:39:10.795 --> 00:39:13.335
our first conversation is always knock on the door

925
00:39:13.635 --> 00:39:16.055
or if nobody answers, we go back to the office and we call

926
00:39:16.195 --> 00:39:17.695
and say, did you know

927
00:39:17.695 --> 00:39:20.095
that in district 13 your due restrictions say you

928
00:39:20.095 --> 00:39:21.255
can't have lawn ornaments?

929
00:39:21.525 --> 00:39:25.135
Unfortunately, those beautiful sand crane statues in the

930
00:39:25.135 --> 00:39:26.735
front of your house are lawn ornaments

931
00:39:26.995 --> 00:39:28.895
and they are not permitted within your district.

932
00:39:30.005 --> 00:39:33.415
Nine times out of 10 they say, well, you know,

933
00:39:34.005 --> 00:39:35.255
everybody has 'em.

934
00:39:35.255 --> 00:39:38.455
Or I thought that they looked nice or, um, I didn't know,

935
00:39:38.915 --> 00:39:41.095
but okay, some of 'em even say, yeah,

936
00:39:41.135 --> 00:39:43.735
I know you caught me like I knew I shouldn't have 'em.

937
00:39:43.735 --> 00:39:45.535
But, and then they put 'em in their garage

938
00:39:45.635 --> 00:39:47.655
or they sell 'em on Facebook marketplace

939
00:39:47.675 --> 00:39:51.575
or they do what they do with them nine times out of 10.

940
00:39:51.875 --> 00:39:52.975
And as story, it's done.

941
00:39:53.515 --> 00:39:55.735
We do have the ones that say, I don't care.

942
00:39:55.895 --> 00:39:58.495
I drove down the street and my neighbors have them.

943
00:39:58.635 --> 00:40:00.255
I'm not going to change it. Or I don't

944
00:40:00.255 --> 00:40:01.415
agree it's a lawn ornament.

945
00:40:01.415 --> 00:40:03.615
Or, um, you know, maybe they're out of town

946
00:40:03.615 --> 00:40:05.135
and they can't, they didn't know their

947
00:40:05.535 --> 00:40:06.735
landscaper wasn't cutting their grass.

948
00:40:06.835 --> 00:40:09.815
So there are times that it does end up into a public hearing

949
00:40:09.835 --> 00:40:11.935
in which we have the ability to assess fines,

950
00:40:12.355 --> 00:40:14.015
but that is actually very few

951
00:40:14.015 --> 00:40:17.175
and far between, um, in the villages as a whole.

952
00:40:17.275 --> 00:40:20.415
So it gives us the opportunity to have those conversations

953
00:40:20.475 --> 00:40:22.575
and educate the homeowners on their de restrictions.

954
00:40:23.355 --> 00:40:25.975
If you limit that, then a lot

955
00:40:26.135 --> 00:40:27.895
of those conversations stop taking place

956
00:40:27.895 --> 00:40:29.735
because you don't receive complaints.

957
00:40:30.485 --> 00:40:33.015
Have we found to where it's an actual issue

958
00:40:33.355 --> 00:40:35.735
and you know, district five or six

959
00:40:35.755 --> 00:40:37.975
or whoever doesn't allow 'em are going downhill

960
00:40:37.995 --> 00:40:39.615
and you can't tell it's the villages anymore?

961
00:40:40.035 --> 00:40:41.935
No. The District five

962
00:40:41.995 --> 00:40:43.495
and the other districts with

963
00:40:43.495 --> 00:40:45.655
that don't allow anonymous complaints are still beautiful.

964
00:40:45.965 --> 00:40:48.335
They still are in compliance with leadership,

965
00:40:49.195 --> 00:40:51.055
but certainly I think I need a new money.

966
00:40:51.435 --> 00:40:55.255
But certainly, um, it doesn't encourage quite as many

967
00:40:57.275 --> 00:40:58.855
people to call if you're

968
00:40:58.855 --> 00:41:00.455
not allowing the anonymous complaints.

969
00:41:00.995 --> 00:41:04.375
Um, so that, that is kind of the pros of it.

970
00:41:04.685 --> 00:41:06.135
Some of the cons, uh,

971
00:41:06.275 --> 00:41:09.535
we have instances in which we will receive an email

972
00:41:09.845 --> 00:41:14.335
with 20 properties all a complaint from,

973
00:41:15.075 --> 00:41:16.255
you know, John Smith or,

974
00:41:16.355 --> 00:41:18.335
or you know, big Bird or whoever it is.

975
00:41:18.995 --> 00:41:21.575
And it is 15 different properties.

976
00:41:21.575 --> 00:41:23.415
And a lot of times it is something

977
00:41:23.445 --> 00:41:26.455
that they got called in on and then they're upset.

978
00:41:26.595 --> 00:41:28.655
So they go and they write 'em all down.

979
00:41:29.075 --> 00:41:30.775
Um, you'll see on social media

980
00:41:30.955 --> 00:41:33.325
and it's kind of one of those, um, things

981
00:41:33.325 --> 00:41:36.005
that you always hear, um, coming up

982
00:41:36.005 --> 00:41:38.925
with the little old ladies on golf carts with clipboards.

983
00:41:39.315 --> 00:41:40.925
That doesn't really happen. We,

984
00:41:41.065 --> 00:41:44.525
we very rarely get multiple complaints like

985
00:41:44.525 --> 00:41:45.925
that, but it does happen.

986
00:41:46.225 --> 00:41:48.445
Um, again, typically I think it's in retaliation

987
00:41:48.445 --> 00:41:49.725
of one person gets it

988
00:41:49.725 --> 00:41:52.045
or they put in a RC approval for something

989
00:41:52.315 --> 00:41:53.565
because they saw it

990
00:41:53.665 --> 00:41:55.725
and then they get denied 'cause it's not in compliance.

991
00:41:55.745 --> 00:41:58.205
So then they go turn in everybody that has had it done.

992
00:41:59.105 --> 00:42:02.005
So it happens, it's not very frequent,

993
00:42:02.465 --> 00:42:04.205
but that is a potential con

994
00:42:04.265 --> 00:42:06.925
of allowing anonymous complaints, um, that you would have

995
00:42:06.925 --> 00:42:08.725
to deal with when it comes

996
00:42:08.865 --> 00:42:11.205
to only allowing within the district.

997
00:42:11.545 --> 00:42:13.805
Um, some boards have felt that if,

998
00:42:13.945 --> 00:42:16.805
if you don't have a vested interest in the district,

999
00:42:16.805 --> 00:42:18.765
then why should you be able to file a complaint?

1000
00:42:19.305 --> 00:42:23.245
Um, the other side to that is you all live in the villages

1001
00:42:23.545 --> 00:42:25.765
and when you're looking at property values,

1002
00:42:25.865 --> 00:42:27.845
it doesn't really matter what district you live in,

1003
00:42:28.075 --> 00:42:30.365
it's the overall beauty of the villages.

1004
00:42:30.745 --> 00:42:32.285
So there's pros and cons either way.

1005
00:42:32.465 --> 00:42:33.805
Um, from staff's perspective,

1006
00:42:33.985 --> 00:42:36.885
it is a policy decision on the board and we will do it

1007
00:42:36.885 --> 00:42:38.485
however the board directs us to.

1008
00:42:38.955 --> 00:42:42.085
Certainly if we start seeing issues, we would come to you.

1009
00:42:42.305 --> 00:42:43.765
So let's say you decide to keep it

1010
00:42:43.765 --> 00:42:45.485
as is except all complaints.

1011
00:42:46.265 --> 00:42:47.965
Um, you know, if we were getting a lot

1012
00:42:47.965 --> 00:42:50.525
of calls from residents, we would certainly direct them

1013
00:42:50.525 --> 00:42:53.085
to the board and say the board is, you know, certainly wants

1014
00:42:53.085 --> 00:42:54.485
to hear from you and if you want changes,

1015
00:42:54.665 --> 00:42:56.165
you should direct that to the board.

1016
00:42:56.785 --> 00:43:00.245
Um, but it, it really is a policy decision on the board.

1017
00:43:00.865 --> 00:43:03.645
The, the one problem with having a,

1018
00:43:03.875 --> 00:43:07.245
only in the district hammock at Fey has 12 and 13,

1019
00:43:07.505 --> 00:43:09.845
and that's ridiculous that your neighbor's in 12

1020
00:43:10.385 --> 00:43:13.315
and you're in 13 and you can't put in.

1021
00:43:13.335 --> 00:43:16.315
And I, I talked with the supervisors from 12

1022
00:43:16.375 --> 00:43:18.515
and they said they were gonna think about changing that.

1023
00:43:18.755 --> 00:43:20.275
I don't know that they did or not, but

1024
00:43:20.385 --> 00:43:21.385
They did not. Yeah,

1025
00:43:21.385 --> 00:43:22.595
well, well they did not change

1026
00:43:22.595 --> 00:43:23.715
it. I don't know if they,

1027
00:43:24.655 --> 00:43:26.315
That's, that's real. That's ridiculous.

1028
00:43:26.775 --> 00:43:29.715
And there's not many areas that it's like that, um,

1029
00:43:29.715 --> 00:43:32.035
where it's literally one side to the other.

1030
00:43:32.215 --> 00:43:35.195
But there are areas where exactly like you said, you,

1031
00:43:35.535 --> 00:43:37.635
you're very close to district 12 or 13

1032
00:43:37.655 --> 00:43:39.875
and you may drive by this house every single day

1033
00:43:39.935 --> 00:43:41.075
and it isn't violation.

1034
00:43:41.095 --> 00:43:42.475
But if you don't live in that district,

1035
00:43:42.535 --> 00:43:44.395
you can't file a report on it.

1036
00:43:44.695 --> 00:43:47.635
Um, so absolutely that would be another potential con of

1037
00:43:48.215 --> 00:43:50.875
not allowing any complaints outside of your district.

1038
00:43:51.535 --> 00:43:54.715
And again, this board, you don't have to make any decision.

1039
00:43:55.025 --> 00:43:56.435
This is completely up to you.

1040
00:43:56.535 --> 00:43:58.075
You can say, we don't wanna make a decision

1041
00:43:58.085 --> 00:44:01.395
until we adopt our rule, um, after the next election cycle.

1042
00:44:01.775 --> 00:44:04.035
At that point, you do have to direct us how you want

1043
00:44:04.035 --> 00:44:06.075
to do it, but at this point you can still

1044
00:44:06.075 --> 00:44:07.315
leave it up to the developer.

1045
00:44:07.495 --> 00:44:10.715
Um, or again, they are based on the residents

1046
00:44:11.295 --> 00:44:14.195
having the conversations allowing you to make that decision.

1047
00:44:16.275 --> 00:44:18.555
I would say I, uh, I had a big bird on my street

1048
00:44:19.735 --> 00:44:24.435
and they got in a, they got in a tiff and, uh, I know Tina

1049
00:44:24.495 --> 00:44:25.555
and Mike knew about it

1050
00:44:25.555 --> 00:44:29.275
because we were doing the, uh, heart things

1051
00:44:29.335 --> 00:44:30.715
and everything and it turned into a

1052
00:44:30.715 --> 00:44:32.445
Nightmare and, uh,

1053
00:44:33.215 --> 00:44:35.265
cameras were pointed at each other's LAN knives.

1054
00:44:35.305 --> 00:44:36.665
I mean, it got really out of control.

1055
00:44:36.925 --> 00:44:38.985
And, uh, so they turned him in

1056
00:44:39.405 --> 00:44:42.145
and then he went around up into Citrus Grove

1057
00:44:42.285 --> 00:44:44.265
and I mean, documented the heck out of people.

1058
00:44:44.645 --> 00:44:47.185
And the next thing I know who got golf carts coming down,

1059
00:44:47.705 --> 00:44:50.265
Seth run down there, who the heck is this?

1060
00:44:51.205 --> 00:44:52.705
So I would say if he knew

1061
00:44:52.705 --> 00:44:54.545
that all those people were gonna come to his house,

1062
00:44:55.085 --> 00:44:56.465
he probably wouldn't have drove around

1063
00:44:56.485 --> 00:44:57.625
and he would've just tried to handle

1064
00:44:57.685 --> 00:44:59.105
the situation with the two people.

1065
00:44:59.325 --> 00:45:01.585
So I understand that both your points,

1066
00:45:01.645 --> 00:45:04.065
but I think if you're gonna turn somebody in, I think

1067
00:45:04.065 --> 00:45:05.185
that they should know who it is.

1068
00:45:05.525 --> 00:45:07.865
And I, and I'm on favor if it's just

1069
00:45:07.865 --> 00:45:08.985
in our district, that's fine.

1070
00:45:09.005 --> 00:45:10.385
And I think that would eliminate that.

1071
00:45:10.445 --> 00:45:12.105
But I just experienced it

1072
00:45:12.105 --> 00:45:13.265
and it turned out to where the

1073
00:45:13.265 --> 00:45:14.385
guy finally left the neighborhood.

1074
00:45:14.405 --> 00:45:16.025
But I mean, it disrupted our whole court.

1075
00:45:19.545 --> 00:45:21.805
So does the board wanna put it on our agenda

1076
00:45:21.865 --> 00:45:23.285
for next month and discuss it?

1077
00:45:23.425 --> 00:45:26.925
I'd like to, yes, sure. Yeah, we can think about it. Yeah,

1078
00:45:27.565 --> 00:45:29.485
I think, I think we'll have a lot of public

1079
00:45:30.085 --> 00:45:31.765
comments if they read the agenda

1080
00:45:32.785 --> 00:45:34.165
and I certainly have gotten plenty.

1081
00:45:35.025 --> 00:45:37.485
And, and certainly, I mean that's, that's the point

1082
00:45:37.485 --> 00:45:40.725
of the developer allowing you to make that decision, um, is

1083
00:45:40.745 --> 00:45:42.205
so that you can listen to residents

1084
00:45:42.205 --> 00:45:44.645
and you can, you know, make the determination

1085
00:45:44.645 --> 00:45:46.485
that you think is best for district 13.

1086
00:45:47.065 --> 00:45:49.965
Um, so we will, um, have a presentation.

1087
00:45:49.965 --> 00:45:51.605
Community standards will come through

1088
00:45:51.665 --> 00:45:54.005
and go through the four different options that you have.

1089
00:45:54.425 --> 00:45:56.365
Um, and then we can also, if you'd like, tell you

1090
00:45:56.365 --> 00:45:57.925
what the other boards are doing, just so

1091
00:45:57.925 --> 00:46:00.805
that you have a feel of, um, in your surrounding areas,

1092
00:46:00.805 --> 00:46:02.005
what the other districts are doing.

1093
00:46:03.575 --> 00:46:05.925
Great. And that concludes district manager Report.

1094
00:46:06.965 --> 00:46:08.125
District council, Yes.

1095
00:46:08.425 --> 00:46:10.645
One item on the agenda for district council.

1096
00:46:11.105 --> 00:46:12.645
And that's the age restriction.

1097
00:46:13.145 --> 00:46:16.605
Uh, there is an opportunity if the district is interested in

1098
00:46:17.045 --> 00:46:20.685
adopting a rules and forth any age related restrictions

1099
00:46:20.685 --> 00:46:22.085
contained in the declaration

1100
00:46:22.595 --> 00:46:25.525
that govern the residential properties in district 13.

1101
00:46:27.145 --> 00:46:30.485
So this just to, just to piggyback on with that, um,

1102
00:46:30.865 --> 00:46:33.645
the other districts that have adopted their rule, um,

1103
00:46:33.865 --> 00:46:36.885
do have the ability now to adopt the rule

1104
00:46:36.985 --> 00:46:38.405
for age restrictions.

1105
00:46:38.405 --> 00:46:40.605
Deed restrictions, which generally speaking,

1106
00:46:40.605 --> 00:46:44.085
that is one member of the household must be 55 and up

1107
00:46:44.665 --> 00:46:47.685
and nobody under the age of 19 can reside in the home

1108
00:46:47.685 --> 00:46:49.605
for more than 30 days in a calendar year.

1109
00:46:49.695 --> 00:46:51.285
Those are the two restrictions

1110
00:46:51.285 --> 00:46:52.805
that typically deal with ages.

1111
00:46:53.115 --> 00:46:56.325
They're not in every district specifically like that,

1112
00:46:56.505 --> 00:46:58.805
but generally speaking, those are the restrictions.

1113
00:47:00.705 --> 00:47:04.405
The boards are now allowed to adopt a rule to enforce those,

1114
00:47:04.405 --> 00:47:06.725
whereas previously they had not adopted those rules.

1115
00:47:07.455 --> 00:47:08.845
Right Now in district 13,

1116
00:47:09.085 --> 00:47:11.445
although you can't adopt a rule again, um,

1117
00:47:11.625 --> 00:47:16.365
the developer is now, um, now that the district is allowed

1118
00:47:16.365 --> 00:47:18.685
to do it, if you would like to do it

1119
00:47:19.345 --> 00:47:22.205
and have staff do it on behalf of the developers, similar to

1120
00:47:22.205 --> 00:47:24.005
how you do all of the other districts

1121
00:47:24.105 --> 00:47:25.525
or due restrictions on behalf

1122
00:47:25.525 --> 00:47:27.445
of the developer, you can now do that.

1123
00:47:28.185 --> 00:47:30.365
So right now, if we get a call

1124
00:47:30.625 --> 00:47:33.005
and they say there's a person in district 13

1125
00:47:33.155 --> 00:47:34.965
that has a 6-year-old living with them,

1126
00:47:35.545 --> 00:47:36.725
we take their information

1127
00:47:36.725 --> 00:47:38.045
and we forward it to the developer.

1128
00:47:38.665 --> 00:47:41.485
If you would like staff to start doing that on behalf

1129
00:47:41.485 --> 00:47:44.445
of the developer, we would then take that information

1130
00:47:45.025 --> 00:47:47.725
and then we would do it like we do all

1131
00:47:47.725 --> 00:47:48.845
of our other restrictions.

1132
00:47:49.505 --> 00:47:51.645
The developer will still be paying for that

1133
00:47:51.645 --> 00:47:53.685
because they're still paying for enforcement of all

1134
00:47:53.685 --> 00:47:58.445
of your due restrictions, however, they would now allow us

1135
00:47:58.505 --> 00:47:59.765
to do it on your behalf.

1136
00:47:59.945 --> 00:48:01.845
And that's, again, just a board decision.

1137
00:48:02.225 --> 00:48:04.605
If that's something you're interested in, then again,

1138
00:48:04.605 --> 00:48:07.725
we would put it on your agenda for actual discussion.

1139
00:48:08.225 --> 00:48:11.445
Um, but right now we're just thinking if you even want us

1140
00:48:11.505 --> 00:48:15.085
to expend staff time to put something together. So

1141
00:48:15.085 --> 00:48:16.085
I have a question. I mean,

1142
00:48:16.085 --> 00:48:18.165
the law states that we can have 20%

1143
00:48:19.365 --> 00:48:20.485
residents under 55.

1144
00:48:20.625 --> 00:48:23.445
So how does that relate in that

1145
00:48:23.715 --> 00:48:25.725
That is all managed through the developer

1146
00:48:25.785 --> 00:48:27.245
office and that won't change.

1147
00:48:27.795 --> 00:48:29.205
This is just, um,

1148
00:48:29.705 --> 00:48:31.805
So this is direct and mainly some there's

1149
00:48:31.925 --> 00:48:32.925
Children. Yeah. And again, it's,

1150
00:48:32.925 --> 00:48:33.125

1151
00:48:33.125 --> 00:48:36.285
and it's all complaint driven deed restrictions.

1152
00:48:36.385 --> 00:48:39.285
So typically we're not gonna get a call that says,

1153
00:48:39.665 --> 00:48:41.285
my neighbor has a 49-year-old

1154
00:48:41.285 --> 00:48:42.725
and a 52-year-old living there.

1155
00:48:43.425 --> 00:48:46.485
But I mean, I'm sure when you meet each other, you don't ask

1156
00:48:46.485 --> 00:48:47.565
what year you were born in.

1157
00:48:47.895 --> 00:48:51.205
Maybe you do, but, but generally speaking,

1158
00:48:51.625 --> 00:48:54.805
the complaints we get are when there's a school bus

1159
00:48:54.805 --> 00:48:55.885
that's stopping outside

1160
00:48:55.885 --> 00:48:58.005
of the villa units to pick up a child. Hmm.

1161
00:48:58.745 --> 00:49:01.605
So we had one complaint

1162
00:49:01.765 --> 00:49:05.165
because the, I don't know the whole situation,

1163
00:49:05.165 --> 00:49:08.885
but anyway, kids were living in the house, so doesn't the,

1164
00:49:09.425 --> 00:49:12.445
um, doesn't the builder take care of that?

1165
00:49:13.385 --> 00:49:16.365
So the deed restrictions are a contract

1166
00:49:16.365 --> 00:49:18.525
between the declarant, the builder, the developer,

1167
00:49:18.545 --> 00:49:19.765
and the property owner.

1168
00:49:20.695 --> 00:49:24.685
There are in district 13, both the

1169
00:49:25.355 --> 00:49:27.925
declarant, the developer can enforce deed restrictions

1170
00:49:27.945 --> 00:49:29.805
and so could other affected property owners.

1171
00:49:30.155 --> 00:49:33.765
Essentially you could obtain legal counsel

1172
00:49:33.985 --> 00:49:35.925
and sue your neighbor for not being in compliance

1173
00:49:35.925 --> 00:49:36.925
of their deed restrictions.

1174
00:49:37.835 --> 00:49:39.965
Once you're eligible to adopt a rule,

1175
00:49:40.155 --> 00:49:42.685
then the district can also enforce the deed

1176
00:49:42.685 --> 00:49:43.845
restrictions through your rule.

1177
00:49:44.375 --> 00:49:47.005
Right now, all internal deed restrictions,

1178
00:49:47.005 --> 00:49:49.645
including those age restricted ones, are sent

1179
00:49:49.645 --> 00:49:51.725
to the developer to handle it.

1180
00:49:51.725 --> 00:49:56.125
Is my understanding that they do contact the property owner

1181
00:49:56.265 --> 00:49:57.445
and they send a letter,

1182
00:49:58.545 --> 00:50:00.885
but they don't do anything further than that.

1183
00:50:01.035 --> 00:50:03.605
They can, but as far as I'm aware,

1184
00:50:03.635 --> 00:50:05.645
they don't do anything further than that.

1185
00:50:06.225 --> 00:50:08.885
If you would like to do it based on the district process,

1186
00:50:09.055 --> 00:50:11.485
which is when we send the letters, we have the ability

1187
00:50:11.505 --> 00:50:13.965
to take them to public hearing and sign them.

1188
00:50:14.705 --> 00:50:17.325
If that's the way you want to enforce data restrictions,

1189
00:50:17.395 --> 00:50:19.085
then that would be done through us

1190
00:50:19.145 --> 00:50:20.245
and not through the developer.

1191
00:50:20.545 --> 00:50:23.365
So it'd be a stronger, the other, the other question is,

1192
00:50:23.485 --> 00:50:24.765
I don't know if this is correct or not,

1193
00:50:24.785 --> 00:50:27.005
but I've been told in district 14

1194
00:50:27.065 --> 00:50:29.085
or 15 that there's a rule

1195
00:50:29.595 --> 00:50:31.245
that they can no longer rent the

1196
00:50:31.245 --> 00:50:32.485
house for less than a month.

1197
00:50:32.545 --> 00:50:33.545
Is that correct?

1198
00:50:34.965 --> 00:50:37.965
I believe that there are some deed restrictions that say

1199
00:50:37.965 --> 00:50:41.285
that in the very new areas, but I have not seen them yet.

1200
00:50:41.705 --> 00:50:43.125
Um, I can certainly look,

1201
00:50:43.345 --> 00:50:45.685
but I have heard that that is going to be in some

1202
00:50:45.685 --> 00:50:47.005
of the newer deed restrictions.

1203
00:50:47.145 --> 00:50:49.005
So, so is that something we can add?

1204
00:50:49.985 --> 00:50:51.805
No, only the developer can alter the de

1205
00:50:51.805 --> 00:50:52.805
Restriction. Well, I mean, if we can

1206
00:50:52.805 --> 00:50:53.765
we request it

1207
00:50:54.345 --> 00:50:57.205
or once we're official, can we,

1208
00:50:57.945 --> 00:51:00.045
You as a homeowner can request it.

1209
00:51:00.265 --> 00:51:02.725
You as a board cannot, um,

1210
00:51:03.625 --> 00:51:05.965
you will not have the ability to change

1211
00:51:05.965 --> 00:51:07.805
or modify the deed restrictions at all.

1212
00:51:08.385 --> 00:51:11.005
And the only thing that your rule allows you to do is

1213
00:51:11.025 --> 00:51:13.645
to enforce the existing deed restrictions

1214
00:51:13.835 --> 00:51:14.965
exactly as written.

1215
00:51:15.465 --> 00:51:17.565
So you can't change them, you can't.

1216
00:51:18.145 --> 00:51:20.405
Um, and, and I, I say this

1217
00:51:20.405 --> 00:51:23.045
because we have had, I've probably had this conversation

1218
00:51:23.845 --> 00:51:25.725
a hundred times with the other districts

1219
00:51:25.725 --> 00:51:29.085
because especially the short term rentals, the Airbnbs

1220
00:51:29.085 --> 00:51:31.605
and vrbo, they're wanting to get a handle on those.

1221
00:51:31.955 --> 00:51:35.165
Unfortunately, there's not that we have been able to find

1222
00:51:35.265 --> 00:51:38.165
or with the attorneys find any provision in the deed

1223
00:51:38.165 --> 00:51:40.365
restrictions that are in existence now

1224
00:51:40.635 --> 00:51:42.365
that we can use to enforce those.

1225
00:51:43.385 --> 00:51:45.085
But the builder could change that

1226
00:51:45.385 --> 00:51:47.765
Or is that they could, I don't know what process they have

1227
00:51:47.765 --> 00:51:50.525
to go and there are due restrictions that have been amended,

1228
00:51:50.545 --> 00:51:52.725
but it would have to be done through the developer.

1229
00:51:53.875 --> 00:51:58.005
Okay. Well I know, like I said, we've had trouble

1230
00:51:58.035 --> 00:52:01.925
with people, you know, taking care of kids, which,

1231
00:52:01.925 --> 00:52:04.405
which isn't too bad, except these were kind of rowdy.

1232
00:52:05.305 --> 00:52:06.405
So I, you know,

1233
00:52:06.525 --> 00:52:08.365
I think we should probably take a look at that.

1234
00:52:08.985 --> 00:52:11.685
If, if the district is gonna be more assertive

1235
00:52:12.305 --> 00:52:14.325
in taking care of that, that that would make sense.

1236
00:52:17.835 --> 00:52:19.015
But is This coming

1237
00:52:19.125 --> 00:52:21.535
because of the situation in 14

1238
00:52:21.585 --> 00:52:23.815
where there are school buses coming in the

1239
00:52:23.815 --> 00:52:24.815
Villages?

1240
00:52:24.915 --> 00:52:28.815
No, this, this has been something that has been

1241
00:52:29.445 --> 00:52:34.175
discussed, um, as far as children in the home for years.

1242
00:52:34.995 --> 00:52:37.415
Um, it's not a prevalent issue,

1243
00:52:37.715 --> 00:52:39.775
but if the school bus is in front of your house,

1244
00:52:39.955 --> 00:52:41.175
it is a prevalent issue.

1245
00:52:41.245 --> 00:52:43.535
It's one of those things that it doesn't come up often,

1246
00:52:43.995 --> 00:52:45.295
but when it does come up,

1247
00:52:45.635 --> 00:52:47.935
the homeowners in the surrounding areas are very,

1248
00:52:48.045 --> 00:52:49.375
very passionate about it.

1249
00:52:50.285 --> 00:52:53.375
When looking at the deed restrictions, excuse me,

1250
00:52:53.375 --> 00:52:58.015
in chapter one 90, chapter one 90 says

1251
00:52:58.015 --> 00:53:00.855
that you can enforce external deed restrictions

1252
00:53:01.595 --> 00:53:05.215
and things that involve with the, um,

1253
00:53:05.605 --> 00:53:08.415
developmental order as far as deed restrictions

1254
00:53:08.555 --> 00:53:11.815
and the development orders of the villages are, it is a 55

1255
00:53:11.815 --> 00:53:14.615
and up community and it is age restricted.

1256
00:53:15.195 --> 00:53:17.775
So therefore the districts are now able to,

1257
00:53:18.515 --> 00:53:19.775
or have always been able to,

1258
00:53:19.915 --> 00:53:22.415
but now we are able to have you adopt that rule,

1259
00:53:22.795 --> 00:53:26.445
or in this case, you, the developer is willing

1260
00:53:26.505 --> 00:53:29.365
to let you direct us to do it with our process.

1261
00:53:29.655 --> 00:53:31.405
Again, they will still be paying for it

1262
00:53:31.575 --> 00:53:32.805
until you adopt your rule.

1263
00:53:33.185 --> 00:53:36.645
Um, but they didn't want to assume that's

1264
00:53:36.645 --> 00:53:38.805
what the districts would want without telling you.

1265
00:53:39.505 --> 00:53:42.805
So the other districts that are fully like 12

1266
00:53:42.865 --> 00:53:47.285
and all that, are they, have they already decided on this?

1267
00:53:47.835 --> 00:53:50.805
This is the first day that we're introducing this.

1268
00:53:51.025 --> 00:53:54.485
So District 12 is interested in us bringing back

1269
00:53:54.485 --> 00:53:56.765
information, they're going to have to do it

1270
00:53:56.765 --> 00:53:58.005
through a public hearing process.

1271
00:53:58.425 --> 00:53:59.565
So we will put a request

1272
00:53:59.585 --> 00:54:02.285
to advertise on their agenda in August,

1273
00:54:02.705 --> 00:54:04.245
and then they will have their public hearing

1274
00:54:04.345 --> 00:54:05.925
to amend their rule in October.

1275
00:54:06.865 --> 00:54:10.485
We don't even have processes yet developed on

1276
00:54:10.485 --> 00:54:12.245
how this would happen, um,

1277
00:54:12.275 --> 00:54:15.085
because certainly staff is not going to be following

1278
00:54:15.085 --> 00:54:16.405
around kids taking pictures

1279
00:54:16.405 --> 00:54:17.925
of them getting on and off a school bus.

1280
00:54:18.465 --> 00:54:20.965
So we really have to think how we will

1281
00:54:21.475 --> 00:54:24.445
enforce this speed restriction if the, um,

1282
00:54:24.545 --> 00:54:25.765
boards choose to do so.

1283
00:54:26.345 --> 00:54:28.565
So this is something that we would not implement

1284
00:54:28.865 --> 00:54:31.285
before October in any situation.

1285
00:54:31.535 --> 00:54:33.565
Right now, I think the, I think all

1286
00:54:33.565 --> 00:54:35.445
of the districts will probably be interested in

1287
00:54:35.445 --> 00:54:36.605
at least hearing about it.

1288
00:54:37.525 --> 00:54:40.485
I don't know whether or not they will choose

1289
00:54:40.545 --> 00:54:41.685
to adopt the rule or not.

1290
00:54:44.315 --> 00:54:46.175
So would we like to hear about it? Yes,

1291
00:54:46.735 --> 00:54:47.735
Absolutely. We'd like to hear about it. But like

1292
00:54:47.735 --> 00:54:48.495
you, like you said,

1293
00:54:48.515 --> 00:54:50.135
Ms. Williamson, you know, the whole thing

1294
00:54:50.135 --> 00:54:51.935
with the 20% has to be sold.

1295
00:54:52.095 --> 00:54:54.015
I don't know, but I'm, I'm willing to listen.

1296
00:54:54.365 --> 00:54:55.815
Well, it wouldn't have to be sold

1297
00:54:55.815 --> 00:54:58.695
because that, I mean, the 20% still is there.

1298
00:54:59.035 --> 00:55:02.015
That's right. That this will not impact that at all

1299
00:55:02.015 --> 00:55:03.815
because that due restriction was there.

1300
00:55:04.005 --> 00:55:07.015
It's just going to be enforced in a different way rather

1301
00:55:07.015 --> 00:55:10.415
than us forwarding that concern to the developer.

1302
00:55:10.555 --> 00:55:11.735
We will follow our process.

1303
00:55:15.005 --> 00:55:18.825
So yes, we'd like to hear about it. Yep. That's it.

1304
00:55:18.825 --> 00:55:19.905
Thank you. Thank you.

1305
00:55:20.695 --> 00:55:23.985
Alright, supervisor comments, supervisor Kerry,

1306
00:55:24.005 --> 00:55:26.225
and you wanna go first with Pwac? Uh,

1307
00:55:26.295 --> 00:55:28.905
Well, uh, supervisor Law went to the last one

1308
00:55:29.125 --> 00:55:31.945
and the next PA is actually Monday, so I have nothing

1309
00:55:31.965 --> 00:55:33.665
to report till next meeting.

1310
00:55:34.495 --> 00:55:38.225
Okay. So Supervisor Law you wanna talk about

1311
00:55:39.365 --> 00:55:40.425
is the parking lot.

1312
00:55:41.405 --> 00:55:42.585
Oh, yeah. I'm just glad that they

1313
00:55:42.585 --> 00:55:43.785
took, uh, took me off it.

1314
00:55:43.785 --> 00:55:46.585
And again, I I, I've talked to several homeowners after that

1315
00:55:46.605 --> 00:55:48.465
and I had the one homeowner question me,

1316
00:55:48.465 --> 00:55:49.945
and he says, why do you care?

1317
00:55:50.845 --> 00:55:51.905
He said, it's not that bad.

1318
00:55:52.245 --> 00:55:54.865
And I says, well, I said, I have had complaints,

1319
00:55:54.925 --> 00:55:57.025
and when I have people ask me about that,

1320
00:55:57.025 --> 00:55:58.745
then I take that to staff.

1321
00:55:58.745 --> 00:55:59.985
Mm-hmm. My opinion doesn't matter.

1322
00:55:59.985 --> 00:56:02.145
It's what the people think. And so I told

1323
00:56:02.145 --> 00:56:05.465
that homeowner when we were out, I said, I believe that if

1324
00:56:05.465 --> 00:56:07.745
that was my driveway, I would not pay for it.

1325
00:56:08.505 --> 00:56:10.225
I said, no matter what it was done, I wouldn't do it.

1326
00:56:10.345 --> 00:56:14.965
I said, so in essence, since you elected me, your home

1327
00:56:15.685 --> 00:56:17.725
district 13 becomes my home.

1328
00:56:18.735 --> 00:56:20.675
And that's why I really pay

1329
00:56:20.675 --> 00:56:21.955
attention to those type of details.

1330
00:56:21.955 --> 00:56:23.565
Mm-hmm. Because I wouldn't pay for it.

1331
00:56:23.745 --> 00:56:25.325
And I said, that's simply where I'm at.

1332
00:56:25.825 --> 00:56:27.485
Um, and the thing

1333
00:56:27.485 --> 00:56:29.925
that when I said I did sign off, I didn't sign off.

1334
00:56:29.925 --> 00:56:31.885
And that could have been in conversation at confusion

1335
00:56:31.885 --> 00:56:34.525
because there is stuff there that, that's my home,

1336
00:56:35.065 --> 00:56:37.085
and I was gonna finally make a payment on it.

1337
00:56:37.285 --> 00:56:38.485
I wouldn't do it till it was fixed,

1338
00:56:39.265 --> 00:56:42.125
but, you know, it's a process and what it goes through, so.

1339
00:56:42.125 --> 00:56:44.405
Mm-hmm. Um, I still think it's bumpy.

1340
00:56:44.485 --> 00:56:46.325
I, I still know the guys that, that,

1341
00:56:46.395 --> 00:56:48.525
that think it's ridiculous, but again, they're empty.

1342
00:56:48.525 --> 00:56:51.085
They don't show up. So it is what it is.

1343
00:56:51.485 --> 00:56:53.645
I rode by there today before we came here.

1344
00:56:53.965 --> 00:56:55.285
I mean, I saw what you were seeing,

1345
00:56:55.505 --> 00:56:57.125
but I didn't think it was that bad either.

1346
00:56:57.195 --> 00:56:58.845
It's not that big of a deal. And that's what I said,

1347
00:56:58.945 --> 00:57:01.645
but again, I wouldn't pay for that if that was my driveway.

1348
00:57:01.645 --> 00:57:03.165
Mm-hmm. If someone came in and fixed that

1349
00:57:03.225 --> 00:57:04.805
and then said, okay, now write me a check.

1350
00:57:04.965 --> 00:57:06.845
I wouldn't write the check. But that's just me personally.

1351
00:57:07.115 --> 00:57:10.085
Another thing I had was, um, we had the hurricane issues.

1352
00:57:10.225 --> 00:57:12.005
Did we receive any insurance payments

1353
00:57:12.105 --> 00:57:16.285
or, uh, anything from the, uh, damage that was done?

1354
00:57:16.285 --> 00:57:18.965
Because there was gonna be, uh, uh, oh my gosh.

1355
00:57:19.035 --> 00:57:20.165
FEMA money or something. Did

1356
00:57:20.165 --> 00:57:21.285
that ever come down the pike yet?

1357
00:57:21.515 --> 00:57:23.165
It's not yet. It's still with fema.

1358
00:57:23.165 --> 00:57:24.245
Everything is still pending.

1359
00:57:24.385 --> 00:57:27.245
But they are still, they are starting to communicate

1360
00:57:27.245 --> 00:57:30.805
with us on some of the, not debris collection,

1361
00:57:30.805 --> 00:57:33.245
but the miscellaneous type items, like standing up trees

1362
00:57:33.425 --> 00:57:34.485
and things like that.

1363
00:57:34.505 --> 00:57:36.605
So we are getting communication from fema,

1364
00:57:36.605 --> 00:57:40.165
but we don't have anything on dollar amounts for the, um,

1365
00:57:40.625 --> 00:57:42.405
debris removal or hauling yet.

1366
00:57:42.975 --> 00:57:46.725
Thank you. I have nothing.

1367
00:57:47.525 --> 00:57:49.525
I don't, um, supervisor Kerrigan,

1368
00:57:49.525 --> 00:57:51.245
did you have anything else besides cac?

1369
00:57:51.245 --> 00:57:53.805
I didn't. I do not. Thank you. Okay. All right.

1370
00:57:53.825 --> 00:57:56.285
Can we have a motion? What? To

1371
00:57:56.365 --> 00:57:58.565
Make a motion to adjourn. Second. Second.

1372
00:57:58.785 --> 00:58:00.325
All in favor? Aye. Aye.