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Bring to your attention and some

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of the financial observations that we saw during the year,

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and you were up to date with this,

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but there were some fence replacements.

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Uh, your investment earnings weren't quite as good

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as in the prior year.

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However, you still are remaining a good rate of return.

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Um, your general fund expenditures were under budget,

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and, um, something that's in your audit report

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regarding the reserve policy there at the very bottom, um,

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that you have this policy, it has not been met yet

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because of the newness of the district,

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but you have three years to obtain that goal,

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that you have enough reserves put aside,

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and management believes that you,

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you'll be compliant within 2027.

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And so I wanted to put this financial statement up here,

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and the first column is your original budget.

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The second column is the amended budget, the year to date,

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actual and the variance.

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And so you'll see that, uh,

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the focus is mainly on expenditures.

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This is what you expect to spend.

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And of course you have budget workshops, a lot of detail,

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and this is probably your biggest internal control to ensure

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that, um, there's no over expenditure of your budget.

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And you'll see that you came in, uh, 64,000 under budget

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with your expenditures.

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So, um, you are properly amending it if you need it

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for unforeseen, um, situations.

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Of course, I think that one was the, uh, fence repair.

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There was an amended budget for that.

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So this is a good tool right here, um, to show

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that you are safeguarding, uh,

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and overseeing the specialist maintenance special

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assessments that are coming in.

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I'm happy to answer any questions on that.

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Again, we'd like to thank, uh, your finance team.

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Uh, and, uh, today you have finance director, you have your

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CFO, um, and, uh, your new assistant finance director, Mr.

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Dishman. And we appreciated working with everyone,

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and they were very attentive

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and, uh, was able to get this, uh, audit report done timely.

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Are there any questions for the audit report?

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It was riveting reading. Yes.

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It's always good when it's good news.

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You wanted to keep it that way. Yeah.

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Do we have a motion then? Motion to accept.

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Have to read the motion. No motion

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to accept is, is that okay?

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Yes, ma'am. I'll second. All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

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Any opposed on the old business? Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Sorry, my computer is spinning.

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Well, we've talked about this.

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The first item. Thank you, Mr. Bres.

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The first item on old business is the villa entry lighting,

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uh, which this was for staff

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to provide an update on the schedule, um, on the lighting

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and what needed to take place at each one.

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We did provide that via email, um, just recently.

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So if you haven't had time to digest that

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and would like, um, to discuss it next month, that's fine.

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Otherwise, Mr. Harris is here if you

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have any questions on it.

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Well, my question is, can we make a recommendation

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that we don't do anything like this?

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That's just because the other

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CDD did without specifically knowing

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and voting that we're gonna be doing this over the years

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like this, if I'm understanding correctly of

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how this happened,

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because it happened in the other districts

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that we put lighting in the villas.

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That's correct. Um, typically this information is, is part

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of your budget review.

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So that's when the,

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the projects like this are presented to you for approval.

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Um, I don't know of any more that are, um,

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optional like this one.

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Um, but certainly if it is something that is optional,

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staff can call, um,

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special attention to that moving forward.

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You don't have to continue adding these.

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This is completely at the discretion of the board.

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Again, this is something that has gone back with all

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of the other districts, um, from inception and,

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and been added, but certainly it is your prerogative if you

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would like to continue adding 'em to your v

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And I didn't go back to the budget.

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Maybe someone else did, but I didn't go back to look

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and see exactly how it was stated

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or worded, you know, whether or not it was in there

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and just something we needed, you know,

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we felt like it needed to be done versus, you know,

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what it really is that it just kind of concerns

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Me. Sure. No,

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any, anything that is, um, not,

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or anything that is considered an enhancement

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or optional, certainly we can make sure that you understand

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that that is, um, a project that we are recommending.

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However, it's not something, um,

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necessarily that you have to do.

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So there's, the verandas don't have those

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and there's other, I don't know, cottage homes

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or whatever that don't really have anything.

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They have a street going into it.

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What, why did we pick these particular I houses to do that?

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I don't know the answer to that.

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I, I think that the answer is probably

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because when this first started in the beginning

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of the villages, there weren't cottages or verandas.

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Um, specifically verandas is something that didn't start

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until you came south of 44,

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whereas villas are located from district one all the way

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through Mr. Harris, did you have something to add? No,

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My care, history, property management,

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he took worked right out of my mouth.

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So that is something that certainly, you know,

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you could look at if you wanted to do it for verandas

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and cottages as well.

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Um, again, this is something that

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it doesn't have to be done.

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It was again, prior to my 19 years

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with the district, but my assumption is

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that it was based on residents, um, asking for it.

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And the boards at the time decided to go ahead

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and move forward as it would benefit the entire villages

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similar to adding the lights into the tunnels

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and things like that, where it's not done on construction,

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but it's something that has gone, um, back

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and added at a future date.

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Yeah, I can, I can see in the tunnels, especially with

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these brilliant people that wear black clothes

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and black shoes in the tunnel

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and there's no lights, um, that that's a safety issue

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to have lights and stuff in the tunnel.

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But I, you know, if we do this

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and then all of a sudden the verandas wanna do it

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all that, that's a lot of money.

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I mean, to me, I, they, they,

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they bought the development the way it was

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and that's the way it should stay.

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I, I haven't heard anybody, you know, say,

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why aren't there lights at the entrance of our bill yet?

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I don't, I don't know if anybody else has.

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Well, we had some residents here.

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that was wanting theirs moved up down in Una?

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Yeah, in De Luna. One of theirs.

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Well, they didn't know when it was scheduled.

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They just knew some of them had 'em and some of them didn't.

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And that's what brought this schedule forth.

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Um, I, I'm having a problem with it.

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It's a, it's a lot of money.

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Um, but I also, you know, I know that with the villages,

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one thing, you know, we try to strive for is consistency.

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Um, yeah, I think since we may have already

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started doing it Yeah.

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But in this particular case, we may have to finish it,

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but, you know, if if another group asked for it, I don't,

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that'd be difficult to tell them that we would do it.

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Can I just get a quick clarification?

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When you say Villa, are we talking patio Villa,

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courtyard Villa, or both?

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Both. Both. Yes, sir. Gotcha.

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So this has been a pre-programmed no thing, way

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before, right?

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A lot of us, because we do have a lot of communications

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with residents wanting their, their, their sign lit up,

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they wanna be able to see it, they want their friends

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to be able to see it when they come at night.

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So along with like Mrs.

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Duckett said, the the tunnel lighting, it's, it's,

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it's just a pre-programed thing that's happens,

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happens naturally from as far back as I can

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when we started it was 30 bucks.

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Well, we used to put solar in,

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but the solar, the trees got big, the solar, we found out

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that the maintenance of the solar systems exceeded

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what the costs are for line voltage, so, sure.

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Um, it just kind of evolved over the years.

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Well, and I know I spoke for, because I live in a veranda

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and we have solar that a resident put in

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and it's been there for two years, you know,

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pretty cost effective

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and I'll be glad to volunteer

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to buy the next session, you know?

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Didn't That report show up going out

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to like 2034 or something like that?

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Yes, it is. We only have a, a handful scheduled per year.

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Um, again, that's based on the, the plan

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that DPM has now based on the direction of the board,

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we can speed it up, slow it down, or mix it all together.

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Um, this is just something that, again,

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as Mr. Harris stated,

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is pretty consistent throughout the villages.

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It's something that is put on their to-do list automatically

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because it's, again, just something that has, um,

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been done throughout the years,

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but it, again, it is district property,

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so it is completely up to the board whether

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or not you'd like us to continue with this project.

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But our, our goal

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or our question for today is that whether

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or not we'd wanna move da luna,

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those villas in de Luna up, right?

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Is that our, is that even a question today?

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Because I can't read these numbers when they would come back

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up in the next budget.

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So we, we don't have a question.

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You, the board asks us to provide you with the schedule.

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This is the schedule. Uh, we're going to continue on

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with this schedule and adding them based on the schedule,

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unless the board directs us to do something different.

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Well, again, I can't read these numbers, so I

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Don't know. Yeah. The other, the

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other, the other thing that kind

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of bothers me is we have, you know,

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at the different villages, we have one entry

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where we have a sign,

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and some of the villages have come back

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and said, well, you don't have an entry at this place.

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And then we said, well, you know, if we add any, you know,

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if we accepted every request,

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we'd be spending millions of extra dollars.

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So, you know, someone could come back

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and say, well, you're adding lights

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and there's no, you know, that doesn't, um,

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that doesn't accommodate everybody.

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You know, everybody doesn't have lights.

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So it, it's a conundrum. Agree. That's the word of

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Today. I agree with. I,

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I, I agree with you.

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It's very tough because I,

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and we've had this conversation, when we do

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plant enhancements,

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I think we should call 'em something else

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because that gives people the opinion that we are enhancing

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what the developer left us, where maybe rep, I don't know,

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we, we need to find a different word,

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but, um,

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I guess I wonder how many people even know that this

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is planned, this far out, you know, and whether

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or not we, I mean, what would happen if we said no,

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we're gonna stop it now,

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and then if we get feedback, then maybe we look at it again.

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Is that a possibility?

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Anything's a possibility.

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Um, you know, I, I wouldn't necessarily stop it

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until people ask,

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because then that's exactly what you just referred to,

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that we don't do it because people ask.

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We do it because we think it's in the

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best interest of the district.

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So if you think it's in the best interest of district 13

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to add lights to the entries of these villas,

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then this is part of your five year budget forecast.

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You have adequate funds.

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We, we, our recommendations on your maintenance assessments

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are based on the fact that you're going to do this.

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So if you think it's in the best interest of district 13,

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then I would recommend continuing forward.

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If you don't, if you think that this is not something

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that you should be using your maintenance assessments on,

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and it's not benefiting the residents of District 13,

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then I would recommend that that's what I would say.

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I would stop it. What I wouldn't do is piecemeal it.

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So I wouldn't wait to have residents come

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and ask you for certain areas and then move forward.

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I would either do it for all of them

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or decide it's not something that, a project you want

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to move forward with and stop.

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Um, if anything, I'd, I would, um, be curious

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to know how much it would take to add it onto the cottages

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and the verandas, just so that you have

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that number in your back pocket.

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Because I, I do believe that the only reason that

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that's not part of the plan is

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because we didn't have verandas

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and cottages back when, again,

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20 plus years ago when these projects started.

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I don't know that to be true,

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but that might be something too that would help you

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in your decision, because if it's in the best interest

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of the villas, then maybe it's in the best interest

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of the cottages and verandas

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and it, it may be something

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that you wanna look at for all or nothing

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For, for district, say district 12, south of 44,

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are they doing the cottages in verandas also,

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or are they they're just doing the same plan.

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You've got the patio

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and in courtyard bills, just for my own benefit,

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and I'm not holding you the number, what does it cost

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to put in lights, ballpark?

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Um, I don't have that in front of me.

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It is on the sheet that Ms. Williamson has.

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You're welcome to read. Do you have a microscope?

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So it, it really depends based on, um, the,

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the villa unit, but it looks like on here,

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it ranges anywhere from 4,000 to 10,

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11,000.

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Does that sound right? Yes.

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Younger I, yeah, with no glasses, but,

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But really anywhere between 4,000 and 11,000.

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So we, we did email that spreadsheet out.

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It was too late to add it to the agenda.

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So we can certainly add that to old business

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for next month if you'd like to,

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to discuss it when you have it in front of you.

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My, my main concern is

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the feedback we got when we raised the taxes,

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which was legitimate for, you know, financial security.

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But, you know, over the next five years, are we gonna have

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to raise taxes again?

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Because my main concern is not spending money so

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that we can avoid paying

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because interest rates are lower, we're not getting

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as much money, um, we're not building anymore,

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so we're not gonna get any more income.

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Um, I, you know,

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you said we have enough money in the budget.

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Do we have enough money in the budget over the next five

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years with the income that we have?

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That's, these plans were taken into consideration when we

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provided you with that five year outlook.

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I don't remember off of the top of my head

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what our recommendations were

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for maintenance assessments over the next five years.

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That is something that we will be providing you, um,

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during your budget workshop, your meeting this,

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um, this year as well.

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And we can certainly, I mean, even if you want to hold this

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until we have those budget meetings so

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that you can better understand the next five years

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and where you look financially before you decide on this.

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We can certainly put a hold on this with any new, um,

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installations moving forward until you've had time

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to go through your budget cycle.

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Yeah. 'cause if you, if you,

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how many houses do we have left to do?

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Or how many entrances? Um, just a just a guess.

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Just the guess is fine.

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So you, uh, the majority of them, yeah. Yes.

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I mean, yeah, you probably have about five a year

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for the next 10 years.

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So that's, that's 50 times, let's say the average

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of $5,000, that's 250,000 if my math is correct.

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Yeah. Um, that's, that's a lot of money.

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And you know, if something comes up, uh, like a, a sinkhole

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or whatever it is, uh, you know, another bridge problem

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or whatever that's gonna cost us money,

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that $250,000 would be very,

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you know, helpful.

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And I, it's just, it's, it's a lot of money.

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And does it benefit anybody? No, it doesn't benefit anybody.

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I What's the benefit? It looks nice.

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Well, I mean, again, I would just refer to the resident

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who came, the, the whole reason we're having this

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discussion, it was that the resident wanted the lighting

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added to her villa sooner.

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Yeah. But, but again, this,

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it's a policy decision on the board.

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It, it is completely your decision if this is something

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that you would like to move forward with.

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Um, but certainly if at a minimum, if you would like us

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to hold on the project until budget, um,

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it gives you a little bit more time, you know,

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to maybe have conversations with your residents

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and then see what the next five year

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forecast looks like. Yeah.

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Yeah. I think that would Be

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good. I guar,

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I, I agree with what your assessment is,

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but my, my whole issue is

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the villages is a whole,

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and if we're going to not do this one thing,

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is district 13 gonna look different than the rest

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of the districts in, you know, in the villages?

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I don't know. Again, John, I I totally agree with you

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as far as, as far as the money situation goes,

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but as far as the aesthetic,

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You know, is it, is it gonna be a,

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is it gonna be an issue over a period of time?

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You know what I mean? I I I agree with you personally. Yeah.

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I would remove all the flowers.

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They, that, that way we don't have to keep replacing 'em.

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I'm sorry. I I know, I know I would be strung up and tar

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and feathered and dragged out into the street for that,

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but, you know, I just, you know,

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But we bought with the flowers

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we didn't buy with lighting.

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Yeah. I, I would, let's, let's take a look at the budget.

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I think that, and I mean, if we're, if we're comfortable

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and it looks like we've got, you know, a good,

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a good hold on it, uh, then we can cont I mean,

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we can always, in three

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or four years, if something really bad happens

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and we start getting into financial trouble, we can stop,

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you know, we don't commit to it.

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Hopefully we don't get to that point. Think

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That makes that much sense to look at it again.

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That way we are being responsible with, you know, our

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Residents. I mean, if it was

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$20,000, I, but $250,000 is a lot.

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Could we discuss about District 12 and District 14?

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See what their scope is? I mean, is that,

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Is the, how much Are they gonna do the same thing?

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I mean, what are they looking at? Do we

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Know they, yes, they, um, I'm not sure about 14.

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Um, I don't know how many villas they have,

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but District 12, just like all the other districts

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have added lighting,

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But they'd probably be like us.

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They won't know to question it depending on

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how it's presented in the, and I'm not doing that as a slam.

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'cause I don't remember, I just wrote myself a note

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to go back and look at the budget,

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but they wouldn't know to, to question it.

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They, they, you're right.

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Um, you know, certainly it, again, we don't present it

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as in a do you want to,

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because it, it does remain staff's

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recommendation to move forward with it.

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I mean, this is something that, as you stated,

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consistency is very important throughout the villages.

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Um, and, you know, we, we wouldn't be doing it if we didn't

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and we wouldn't be continuing

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with this project if we didn't think

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that it was in the best interest of the residents.

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Um, so it will remain our, um, our position

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and our recommendation to continue moving forward.

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That doesn't mean you have to accept our recommendation.

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And, you know, certainly you can delay our,

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our hold off on it,

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but we, we would continue with the, the other districts

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with recommending that they continue with these projects.

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And so, like in District 12,

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has there ever been any discussion about this so

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that they even have the thoughts that, you know,

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that have come here?

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Not in a meeting that I've been in, yeah.

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But I don't start with meetings, um, with board meetings

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until they're usually several years down the road.

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Um, so that doesn't mean that

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that discussion didn't take place prior to me taking over,

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but just like, just like with district 13, it wasn't

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until several years ago that I started attending the, yeah.

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Okay. So we agree.

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We're gonna wait and discuss it again at budget time.

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Okay. We'll make sure this is a, um, a line item

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to be discussed during your, your budget.

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All right. Thank you very much.

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And the next item on old business, um,

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is a FEMA reimbursement update.

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I don't have an update.

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We, um, have not received anything from fema.

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We can certainly continue to keep this on your old business,

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but I assure you as soon as we receive an update from fema,

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we will provide it, um,

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under the non-district 13 items.

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Uh, we have sod concerns.

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Uh, we don't have any updates,

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but Mr. Harris is available if you have any questions.

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I'll be back there dancing.

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Um, the M 18 tunnel, um, as you've been, um, aware,

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we have been, um, moving forward with adding

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that additional drainage.

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That update has also been going

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to the project wide advisory committee

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at a fund through them.

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The performance update on the new aquatic maintenance

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contractor will be provided at your next meeting in March.

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And then, uh, we have the update for 1307 Tate Terrace,

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which will be provided by Mr. Armstrong.

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Hello board, Matt Armstrong Community Standards.

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So, um, when we receive the concern regarding the, uh,

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property at 1307, about a makeshift fence

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that was being put up for a dog permanent structure,

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we went out there and the homeowner was out there

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and he had this little rinky-dink makeshift, um,

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put together for, uh, his dog.

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Uh, his answer was that it's temporary.

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He puts it out there and instead of tethering his dog, um,

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he puts this out there.

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So when he's outside the dog to be out there

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and not tethered, um, we did inform 'em that, you know,

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fencing is not permitted.

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And, um, we also discussed about a concern

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that we had received regarding an rv.

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Um, an initial one was over a year ago, which just kind

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of reiterated, reminded him about the ruling.

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He goes, yep, I understand

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completely after your first visit.

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I, it comes and goes. I don't bring it back here and there.

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Uh, we did receive a concern four days ago regarding a,

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a trailer in the driveway when staffing out there.

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There was no trailer in the driveway.

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Uh, so if there was one, it was gone.

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Um, again, we don't feel like the

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homeowner's playing cat and mouse with us.

505
00:22:51.025 --> 00:22:52.905
I know that we discussed that at the last board meeting if

506
00:22:52.905 --> 00:22:53.905
they're gonna be playing games, and

507
00:22:53.905 --> 00:22:55.545
that's something we'll definitely move forward with the Dr.

508
00:22:55.745 --> 00:22:56.945
'cause we're not going to do that.

509
00:22:57.485 --> 00:23:00.065
Uh, but after initial discussion, he goes, no,

510
00:23:00.085 --> 00:23:01.865
it is just my way of letting my dog kind

511
00:23:01.865 --> 00:23:03.225
of be out in the yard

512
00:23:03.225 --> 00:23:04.785
with me when I'm there, type of a thing.

513
00:23:05.285 --> 00:23:07.665
Um, I have spoken with the homeowners, um,

514
00:23:08.245 --> 00:23:09.465
before this meeting, um,

515
00:23:09.565 --> 00:23:11.185
and said that, no, that's not really the case.

516
00:23:11.185 --> 00:23:13.465
Even the dog gets out, he sticks it between two lawn chairs

517
00:23:13.465 --> 00:23:14.625
and the dog goes running free,

518
00:23:14.625 --> 00:23:15.745
then we're out chasing the dog.

519
00:23:15.745 --> 00:23:18.265
Luckily, the dog hasn't gotten hit yet, so, um,

520
00:23:18.455 --> 00:23:20.665
it's still something that we will continue to review

521
00:23:20.665 --> 00:23:24.745
underneath the current, um, the current, uh, complaint.

522
00:23:24.745 --> 00:23:27.425
We haven't closed it yet, um, to see if there's something

523
00:23:27.425 --> 00:23:29.585
that we can see regarding if there's a violation that exists

524
00:23:29.585 --> 00:23:31.785
for what he's, he's he's doing for his dog.

525
00:23:34.095 --> 00:23:36.795
So he can put up a makeshift fence if he's

526
00:23:36.795 --> 00:23:37.995
sitting there. Just so

527
00:23:37.995 --> 00:23:39.275
I understand the need restrictions,

528
00:23:39.275 --> 00:23:40.835
figure out will put up a permanent structure

529
00:23:40.835 --> 00:23:41.955
barrier and things like that.

530
00:23:42.045 --> 00:23:44.115
Where he's doing is, he's not tethering the dog,

531
00:23:44.225 --> 00:23:46.365
he's just kind of putting up into play pin space for him.

532
00:23:46.365 --> 00:23:48.005
So I really don't have an answer yet for that.

533
00:23:48.015 --> 00:23:49.645
We'll review it to see if there's something as far

534
00:23:49.645 --> 00:23:50.845
as a violation would exist.

535
00:23:55.295 --> 00:23:57.905
Okay. And I conclude all this.

536
00:23:58.695 --> 00:24:00.745
Alright, so now we have our informational items

537
00:24:00.845 --> 00:24:02.465
or, uh, financial statements.

538
00:24:03.765 --> 00:24:05.985
Are there any questions or comments about that?

539
00:24:08.715 --> 00:24:11.895
No DPM monthly report? Any questions?

540
00:24:14.755 --> 00:24:16.215
And now back to you, Ms. Duckett.

541
00:24:17.075 --> 00:24:19.815
Yes, ma'am. Um, the, um,

542
00:24:20.185 --> 00:24:22.775
first item on old on district manager reports,

543
00:24:22.975 --> 00:24:25.575
I will once again turn it over to Mr. Armstrong,

544
00:24:25.635 --> 00:24:28.255
who will give you an update on gov build, uh,

545
00:24:28.255 --> 00:24:30.295
which we gave you a preview to a couple months ago.

546
00:24:33.145 --> 00:24:35.255
Hello again, board at Armstrong Community Standards.

547
00:24:35.555 --> 00:24:36.735
So we'll see if it shows up.

548
00:24:36.855 --> 00:24:39.975
I know we're having some network issues.

549
00:24:40.475 --> 00:24:42.055
If not, we can always bring it back next month.

550
00:24:43.795 --> 00:24:46.895
Um, on the agenda is a, it was a brief presentation

551
00:24:46.895 --> 00:24:48.855
regarding, um, screenshots of

552
00:24:48.855 --> 00:24:50.735
what the architectural review process looks like.

553
00:24:51.275 --> 00:24:52.375
Uh, if you've seen it

554
00:24:52.375 --> 00:24:55.655
before we got to the meeting today, it is a exact comparison

555
00:24:55.755 --> 00:24:57.175
to the paper application process.

556
00:24:57.955 --> 00:24:59.055
The questions are the same.

557
00:24:59.275 --> 00:25:01.095
The information that you're gonna provide is the same.

558
00:25:01.235 --> 00:25:03.895
The only difference is instead of processing,

559
00:25:03.965 --> 00:25:07.015
like we did last year, it was close to 13,000 applications,

560
00:25:07.015 --> 00:25:09.615
but each application is five pages long.

561
00:25:09.715 --> 00:25:10.775
So that's a lot of paper.

562
00:25:11.075 --> 00:25:13.495
Now, we've electronically gone to this method of,

563
00:25:13.555 --> 00:25:15.175
of submitting applications online.

564
00:25:15.635 --> 00:25:17.215
Uh, when we receive paper applications,

565
00:25:17.275 --> 00:25:18.815
we actually put them online.

566
00:25:18.875 --> 00:25:21.615
So what happens is a user, a homeowner

567
00:25:21.675 --> 00:25:24.095
or a contractor will, uh, create an account

568
00:25:24.555 --> 00:25:27.495
and all that asks is for your email address, your name,

569
00:25:27.795 --> 00:25:29.015
and a password.

570
00:25:29.015 --> 00:25:30.015
That's all that we need.

571
00:25:30.365 --> 00:25:32.655
Once that's created, here's your, your landing page

572
00:25:32.655 --> 00:25:34.535
and you'll see the architectural review application.

573
00:25:34.535 --> 00:25:35.895
You click on it, and again,

574
00:25:35.895 --> 00:25:37.735
it's the same exact way the form looks.

575
00:25:38.195 --> 00:25:40.295
So you put your contact information on there,

576
00:25:40.295 --> 00:25:41.815
you would end up also, there's a page

577
00:25:41.835 --> 00:25:43.575
for your contractor's information on there.

578
00:25:43.575 --> 00:25:45.335
Then you're gonna describe what the project is.

579
00:25:45.835 --> 00:25:47.895
The last page is the disclaimer, just like any,

580
00:25:47.895 --> 00:25:50.295
all the other applications where you say that, yes,

581
00:25:50.335 --> 00:25:51.895
I understand it's a publicly noticed meeting

582
00:25:52.195 --> 00:25:53.775
and you're gonna sign for your application.

583
00:25:53.775 --> 00:25:55.335
You hit submit and we receive it.

584
00:25:56.365 --> 00:25:58.855
Only difference is now is you receive an email

585
00:25:59.085 --> 00:26:01.095
that states thank you for submitting your application.

586
00:26:01.095 --> 00:26:02.415
It'll be received, received

587
00:26:02.415 --> 00:26:04.095
and reviewed within 14 business days.

588
00:26:04.915 --> 00:26:07.535
My staff being received on our big dashboard

589
00:26:07.795 --> 00:26:09.415
of applications that have been submitted.

590
00:26:09.435 --> 00:26:11.575
And we assign it up a date to be reviewed

591
00:26:11.575 --> 00:26:14.215
by the hearing officer, at which time they then received

592
00:26:14.215 --> 00:26:15.295
this email that says,

593
00:26:15.355 --> 00:26:17.175
you now have been assigned a meeting date.

594
00:26:17.595 --> 00:26:20.215
And in this case it was December 17th, 2025.

595
00:26:20.245 --> 00:26:21.335
It's completely automated.

596
00:26:21.335 --> 00:26:23.735
The homeowner now receives this as well as the contractor.

597
00:26:24.395 --> 00:26:26.175
If they want to, they can view their application

598
00:26:26.175 --> 00:26:27.775
and just view where they are in the process.

599
00:26:28.435 --> 00:26:30.735
We now have our meeting, and if it is approved,

600
00:26:30.755 --> 00:26:33.295
you receive this email that states, thank you very much,

601
00:26:33.325 --> 00:26:34.855
your application was approved.

602
00:26:34.855 --> 00:26:35.935
Here are the stipulations

603
00:26:36.035 --> 00:26:38.535
and the signature from the chairman, uh, for the,

604
00:26:38.535 --> 00:26:39.775
in this case, uh, this was

605
00:26:39.775 --> 00:26:42.415
for the a RC meeting in the morning meeting with my example.

606
00:26:42.515 --> 00:26:44.925
So, um, but these are the types of communications

607
00:26:44.925 --> 00:26:46.725
that residents will now receive along the process

608
00:26:46.785 --> 00:26:49.045
to let them know where they are in their architectural

609
00:26:49.045 --> 00:26:50.685
review process of having to call us up, Hey,

610
00:26:50.685 --> 00:26:51.725
where's my application?

611
00:26:51.745 --> 00:26:53.525
Hey, has it been reviewed at? Hey, what's the status?

612
00:26:53.945 --> 00:26:55.645
You automatically get those emails now,

613
00:26:55.645 --> 00:26:57.085
and they actually have it to

614
00:26:57.085 --> 00:26:59.165
where it is saved in their user profile.

615
00:26:59.265 --> 00:27:00.645
So they can see applications

616
00:27:00.945 --> 00:27:02.285
and they can see their current cases

617
00:27:02.385 --> 00:27:03.525
and they can view where they're at,

618
00:27:03.545 --> 00:27:04.565
or they can edit ones

619
00:27:04.565 --> 00:27:06.245
that they haven't finished submitting to us yet.

620
00:27:06.345 --> 00:27:08.645
So that is gov built

621
00:27:08.665 --> 00:27:10.965
and that is phase one of our implementation process.

622
00:27:11.615 --> 00:27:13.005
Phase two's gonna be decompliance,

623
00:27:13.005 --> 00:27:14.285
but residents won't know the difference

624
00:27:14.285 --> 00:27:15.325
because that's all behind the scenes.

625
00:27:15.325 --> 00:27:16.805
They'll just know that they sent an email

626
00:27:16.805 --> 00:27:18.205
and it comes to us through them as well.

627
00:27:19.675 --> 00:27:21.045
That, do you have any questions? I'm here.

628
00:27:21.945 --> 00:27:25.245
So you mentioned the contractor could do this. Absolutely.

629
00:27:25.245 --> 00:27:27.605
And then I know we had, uh, Al

630
00:27:27.605 --> 00:27:30.645
and Eyeglass in the contractor submitted and I saw it.

631
00:27:30.875 --> 00:27:32.205
Okay, so I'm good with that.

632
00:27:32.345 --> 00:27:35.005
So contractor comes up, he gets them a log on,

633
00:27:35.505 --> 00:27:39.325
and then he puts my, my information in for the lot

634
00:27:39.465 --> 00:27:41.405
and I have to give him a copy.

635
00:27:41.645 --> 00:27:45.075
I mean, I didn't have to give my contractor a copy of my,

636
00:27:45.135 --> 00:27:49.835
uh, tax to, to confirm that I own that thing.

637
00:27:49.855 --> 00:27:51.515
So I'm just wondering how that works if a

638
00:27:51.515 --> 00:27:53.515
contractor does this electronically. Contractors

639
00:27:53.515 --> 00:27:55.275
Are working with the homeowners when they do that.

640
00:27:55.735 --> 00:27:58.675
Um, if a contractor is providing the services for them,

641
00:27:58.675 --> 00:27:59.755
they're typically in the office

642
00:27:59.815 --> 00:28:01.595
and they're saying, Hey, can you just provide the upload?

643
00:28:01.595 --> 00:28:04.275
And they upload it and it goes in, again, it goes into

644
00:28:04.275 --> 00:28:05.555
where they're both the homeowner

645
00:28:05.655 --> 00:28:07.435
and the contractor receive the same emails

646
00:28:07.435 --> 00:28:08.755
with the supporting documents.

647
00:28:09.375 --> 00:28:10.835
So all the information is there.

648
00:28:10.835 --> 00:28:12.955
And then when we upload the applications, it's there

649
00:28:12.955 --> 00:28:14.915
for the Architecture Review Committee to see

650
00:28:14.915 --> 00:28:17.075
and also the hearing officer to see, to prove that yes,

651
00:28:17.075 --> 00:28:19.915
you are the homeowner, some renters not providing, you know,

652
00:28:20.015 --> 00:28:21.515
trying to change something on your house

653
00:28:21.535 --> 00:28:22.915
and then see, you know, the site plan

654
00:28:22.915 --> 00:28:24.275
and everything else that goes with the project.

655
00:28:30.315 --> 00:28:31.065
Other questions?

656
00:28:31.995 --> 00:28:34.865
Thank you. And I do have one other item just

657
00:28:34.865 --> 00:28:35.945
leading into Mr.

658
00:28:36.335 --> 00:28:40.385
Brian's report and that, um, as you may be aware, we, um,

659
00:28:40.455 --> 00:28:41.665
fall under the purview

660
00:28:41.665 --> 00:28:43.745
of the Southwest Florida Water Management District,

661
00:28:44.165 --> 00:28:47.225
and they have recently put us under a phase two water

662
00:28:47.585 --> 00:28:50.945
shortage, uh, order, which will result in different, um,

663
00:28:51.055 --> 00:28:52.505
impacts to our residents.

664
00:28:53.325 --> 00:28:56.385
The district has taken the information from Swift Mud

665
00:28:56.605 --> 00:28:57.945
and is providing it out.

666
00:28:58.445 --> 00:29:02.625
Um, any, everything ranging from a 5% surcharge on the

667
00:29:02.625 --> 00:29:04.985
utility bills to help encourage, um,

668
00:29:06.085 --> 00:29:10.745
not wasteful usage of water, uh, to modified watering days.

669
00:29:11.525 --> 00:29:13.825
We are placing that information has already been

670
00:29:13.825 --> 00:29:15.105
on district gov.org.

671
00:29:15.245 --> 00:29:17.025
Um, it is also being printed

672
00:29:17.125 --> 00:29:19.745
and put on all of the postal station bulletin boards

673
00:29:19.745 --> 00:29:21.785
throughout the community to help get residents,

674
00:29:21.805 --> 00:29:22.905
um, familiar with that.

675
00:29:23.645 --> 00:29:26.145
It is also an impact to decompliance

676
00:29:26.405 --> 00:29:27.425
and as, um,

677
00:29:27.685 --> 00:29:30.585
you don't have view compliance under your purview yet.

678
00:29:30.685 --> 00:29:32.505
We did want you to know, um,

679
00:29:32.535 --> 00:29:34.585
that there has been some modifications that Mr.

680
00:29:34.615 --> 00:29:36.945
Brianis will go through, um, as far

681
00:29:36.945 --> 00:29:38.825
as decompliance within District 13

682
00:29:39.005 --> 00:29:40.225
as it pertains to this water

683
00:29:40.545 --> 00:29:41.545
Shortage.

684
00:29:44.315 --> 00:29:48.545
Sorry, right. That, yeah, I need to, um,

685
00:29:48.685 --> 00:29:51.945
so essentially this, uh, plan that was created was, um,

686
00:29:51.945 --> 00:29:55.225
pursuant to the, um, water restrictions that were enacted

687
00:29:55.225 --> 00:29:57.505
that became effective yesterday, February 8th.

688
00:29:58.125 --> 00:30:00.345
And what it says, essentially, for purposes

689
00:30:00.345 --> 00:30:01.905
of deed compliance is that they will,

690
00:30:01.915 --> 00:30:04.465
there will be an abatement time period, um,

691
00:30:04.475 --> 00:30:06.025
where if a case is brought

692
00:30:06.025 --> 00:30:07.945
before the deed compliance hearing officer,

693
00:30:08.205 --> 00:30:09.305
it probably won't be brought

694
00:30:09.305 --> 00:30:11.025
before that the hearing officer actually,

695
00:30:11.025 --> 00:30:12.665
because if it has to do with grass

696
00:30:12.725 --> 00:30:15.345
or something to do with water restrictions, um,

697
00:30:15.375 --> 00:30:17.945
community standards is not gonna proceed with that case

698
00:30:18.075 --> 00:30:20.745
until, um, the order is lifted.

699
00:30:21.405 --> 00:30:24.145
Um, or the expiration date that's listed on that as well.

700
00:30:29.545 --> 00:30:33.855
Questions, and again, that only be affected by, again,

701
00:30:34.275 --> 00:30:36.015
issues with grass, um,

702
00:30:36.015 --> 00:30:38.135
maybe some landscaping, things like that.

703
00:30:38.155 --> 00:30:40.015
If it has anything to do with water restrictions

704
00:30:40.015 --> 00:30:43.175
and the ability of a property owner to use the water, um,

705
00:30:43.235 --> 00:30:45.015
to rectify the deed compliance issue.

706
00:30:45.015 --> 00:30:47.855
Mm-hmm. Uh, then deed compliance will not proceed with

707
00:30:47.855 --> 00:30:49.615
that case until, again, this is lifted

708
00:30:50.035 --> 00:30:51.655
or until the date expires.

709
00:30:55.435 --> 00:30:56.935
Is that shared with Ms. Duckett?

710
00:30:56.955 --> 00:30:59.935
My concern is that people don't read the,

711
00:30:59.935 --> 00:31:01.615
they don't get the district bulletin,

712
00:31:01.615 --> 00:31:02.655
so they haven't read it there.

713
00:31:02.805 --> 00:31:06.295
They may have caught it in Saturday's paper, may not have,

714
00:31:06.395 --> 00:31:08.335
may, I mean, I get the paper and didn't see it.

715
00:31:08.395 --> 00:31:12.855
But, um, I just, I'm kind of concerned about the amount

716
00:31:12.855 --> 00:31:15.415
of communication going to our residents about this.

717
00:31:15.475 --> 00:31:18.495
And I know this is not a district enforced,

718
00:31:18.605 --> 00:31:19.775
this is not the district.

719
00:31:19.845 --> 00:31:22.215
This is not anything, you know, this is part

720
00:31:22.215 --> 00:31:25.215
of a swift you say Swift mud.

721
00:31:25.825 --> 00:31:28.055
Swift mud. So, um, you know,

722
00:31:28.075 --> 00:31:33.055
but, uh, still, I don't believe a 5% surcharge is going

723
00:31:33.075 --> 00:31:37.255
to change behavior if we're truly wanting our residents

724
00:31:37.355 --> 00:31:39.415
to adhere to the one day a week.

725
00:31:40.235 --> 00:31:43.735
Um, the residents that I've talked to, my friends,

726
00:31:43.995 --> 00:31:45.015
no one's even heard of it.

727
00:31:45.035 --> 00:31:46.375
You know, they haven't seen it in the

728
00:31:46.375 --> 00:31:47.415
paper, they haven't seen that.

729
00:31:47.595 --> 00:31:52.175
So I am kind of concerned just for information

730
00:31:52.195 --> 00:31:53.255
for the rest of the board.

731
00:31:53.605 --> 00:31:56.055
Mike talked to Peter Russell this morning

732
00:31:56.155 --> 00:31:59.775
and he's gonna have something put out through the VHA trying

733
00:31:59.835 --> 00:32:03.095
to, to provide some more information about this and,

734
00:32:03.435 --> 00:32:05.815
and what, you know, the watering restriction days are,

735
00:32:05.835 --> 00:32:09.055
and even, and the information that we received talks about,

736
00:32:09.635 --> 00:32:11.775
you know, whether or not, I guess you could pressure wash

737
00:32:11.775 --> 00:32:14.815
your house if you're having it, if you're having it painted,

738
00:32:15.215 --> 00:32:17.615
I, there's nothing that's gonna stop you from doing it.

739
00:32:17.765 --> 00:32:20.095
They just saying you don't, you're not gonna get a deed

740
00:32:20.225 --> 00:32:21.225
Issue, I believe.

741
00:32:21.245 --> 00:32:24.015
Well, so the, there are other restrictions.

742
00:32:24.315 --> 00:32:28.615
The shortage a provides that HOAs

743
00:32:28.715 --> 00:32:32.535
or other entities cannot enforce deed restrictions

744
00:32:32.535 --> 00:32:33.975
that require water usage.

745
00:32:34.435 --> 00:32:37.335
So we cannot require somebody to pressure wash their home.

746
00:32:37.335 --> 00:32:40.885
Right now, I believe what the shortage says as far

747
00:32:40.885 --> 00:32:42.605
as pressure washing is that you're allowed

748
00:32:42.605 --> 00:32:43.925
to one time per year

749
00:32:45.065 --> 00:32:47.645
and you're also allowed to, if you are preparing

750
00:32:47.665 --> 00:32:49.085
for something like a paint

751
00:32:49.225 --> 00:32:51.405
or another project that requires it.

752
00:32:51.745 --> 00:32:55.365
Um, but it does, there are some workarounds for homeowners.

753
00:32:55.365 --> 00:32:57.645
For example, if you have planted something,

754
00:32:57.985 --> 00:33:02.085
you can manually mow your, or manually, um, water your lawn.

755
00:33:02.275 --> 00:33:03.565
What you can't do is turn on your

756
00:33:03.565 --> 00:33:05.205
irrigation multiple times a week.

757
00:33:05.585 --> 00:33:08.525
Um, I did verify, based on our conversation, um,

758
00:33:08.785 --> 00:33:12.605
we do accept, um, complaints from residents

759
00:33:12.625 --> 00:33:15.285
who have concerns that one of their neighbors

760
00:33:15.825 --> 00:33:18.725
is not adhering to the water restrictions.

761
00:33:18.725 --> 00:33:22.325
Community watch also has the ability to, um, notify.

762
00:33:22.425 --> 00:33:24.245
And what they will do is notify Swift Mud.

763
00:33:24.585 --> 00:33:26.885
So if there is non-compliance by homeowners,

764
00:33:26.885 --> 00:33:28.485
then it would be reported to Swift Mud.

765
00:33:30.195 --> 00:33:33.495
So is with, with the exception of, um,

766
00:33:34.585 --> 00:33:37.945
power washing and surface cleaning,

767
00:33:38.575 --> 00:33:40.465
this is just your lawn watering?

768
00:33:40.465 --> 00:33:41.465
Correct.

769
00:33:41.765 --> 00:33:43.945
The Space two water shortage goes

770
00:33:44.015 --> 00:33:45.625
into a lot of information.

771
00:33:45.905 --> 00:33:47.265
I would recommend that you go

772
00:33:47.265 --> 00:33:49.465
and actually Swift Mud put out FAQs.

773
00:33:49.925 --> 00:33:53.105
Um, if you go to the district's website, we link to it.

774
00:33:53.415 --> 00:33:56.305
It's also, I believe it's Water matters.org.

775
00:33:56.805 --> 00:33:59.505
Um, but they, all of the information, um,

776
00:33:59.655 --> 00:34:02.665
from Southwest Florida Water Management District, as far as

777
00:34:03.325 --> 00:34:04.465
Lot on Water, Inc.

778
00:34:04.645 --> 00:34:06.305
Um, what you can

779
00:34:06.305 --> 00:34:09.265
and can't do with, with water in general related

780
00:34:09.265 --> 00:34:11.305
to this water shortage is all on their website.

781
00:34:11.735 --> 00:34:13.425
What I'm talking about potable water.

782
00:34:14.375 --> 00:34:16.305
Well, they say don't wash a load of laundry

783
00:34:16.325 --> 00:34:17.505
unless it's a full load.

784
00:34:17.695 --> 00:34:19.425
Because my, That's what's in there.

785
00:34:21.365 --> 00:34:24.625
My concern is because I, I have fish that I use

786
00:34:25.635 --> 00:34:27.185
quite a bit of water every two weeks.

787
00:34:28.125 --> 00:34:29.245
I mean, they monitoring

788
00:34:29.425 --> 00:34:32.335
how much water you use for potable water,

789
00:34:32.725 --> 00:34:34.735
They're, they're not monitoring anything.

790
00:34:34.735 --> 00:34:37.495
You're going to be getting a surcharge of 5% onto

791
00:34:37.565 --> 00:34:39.415
that usage, encouraging you

792
00:34:39.435 --> 00:34:42.175
to conserve water. But I mean, so

793
00:34:42.335 --> 00:34:43.655
Regardless of how much water you use,

794
00:34:43.655 --> 00:34:45.175
you're gonna get a 5% surcharge.

795
00:34:45.315 --> 00:34:50.085
Yes. Well, they're, they're figuring to Lexi use the,

796
00:34:50.225 --> 00:34:51.405
the smaller the surcharge,

797
00:34:52.425 --> 00:34:54.645
But I, as expensive as our water is,

798
00:34:54.765 --> 00:34:59.445
I don't think five percent's gonna affect behavior wells.

799
00:34:59.445 --> 00:35:04.125
5% is 2000 pounds worth. Exactly. That's not a very

800
00:35:04.125 --> 00:35:05.125
Hard decision. No, that's

801
00:35:05.125 --> 00:35:05.885
not a hard decision.

802
00:35:05.955 --> 00:35:09.205
Yeah, but I just, I I, I'm, I'm concerned

803
00:35:09.205 --> 00:35:12.725
that our residents don't, haven't seen this information

804
00:35:12.745 --> 00:35:15.885
and don't understand, and it, and it started yesterday,

805
00:35:16.355 --> 00:35:18.165
When they get the surcharges, they'll understand.

806
00:35:18.425 --> 00:35:21.925
Yep. And it actually does, I have it pulled up now.

807
00:35:21.985 --> 00:35:24.805
It actually, it discusses aesthetic fountain use

808
00:35:25.105 --> 00:35:27.965
and, um, they do provide exemptions

809
00:35:28.065 --> 00:35:29.405
for things such as Qua Pond.

810
00:35:30.065 --> 00:35:33.365
So you, it, the full information is attached to their rule,

811
00:35:33.365 --> 00:35:34.365
which is on their website,

812
00:35:34.425 --> 00:35:36.645
but they go into pretty good detail.

813
00:35:37.655 --> 00:35:39.605
Thank You. Yes, sir. So I didn't read that.

814
00:35:39.705 --> 00:35:41.365
So we need to turn our fountains off too.

815
00:35:41.785 --> 00:35:44.365
It says it is limited to eight hours a day. Oh, okay.

816
00:35:44.445 --> 00:35:47.325
I did read that. I do remember that now. Okay.

817
00:35:51.695 --> 00:35:54.665
Okay. Um, supervisor comments.

818
00:35:55.305 --> 00:35:57.105
Kerrigan, you want go for cac.

819
00:35:57.605 --> 00:36:00.345
So there's, there were two items of discussion.

820
00:36:01.605 --> 00:36:05.145
Um, the continuous golf cart pass on number five,

821
00:36:05.255 --> 00:36:07.305
long number three, lowland number two,

822
00:36:07.305 --> 00:36:09.145
there was a lot of discussion on that.

823
00:36:09.815 --> 00:36:11.545
It's $201,000.

824
00:36:12.165 --> 00:36:15.585
Um, My, myself

825
00:36:15.685 --> 00:36:18.865
and District 12 supervisors did not approve it,

826
00:36:18.865 --> 00:36:21.625
however, the other supervisors did.

827
00:36:21.725 --> 00:36:23.465
So they're gonna go ahead and put those in.

828
00:36:24.645 --> 00:36:27.185
Um, the other one was the Lake Sumter Landing.

829
00:36:27.765 --> 00:36:29.465
Um, aquatic leak control.

830
00:36:30.245 --> 00:36:34.425
Um, some people don't like the lilies in the, in the lake,

831
00:36:35.155 --> 00:36:36.975
and some people don't like to call grass.

832
00:36:37.395 --> 00:36:39.015
And supposedly they were saying

833
00:36:39.015 --> 00:36:42.175
that when they play golf there, that it looks awful to

834
00:36:42.195 --> 00:36:45.055
as an actual, the water.

835
00:36:45.995 --> 00:36:49.605
Um, our, our chairman did a smart thing

836
00:36:49.605 --> 00:36:53.365
and we submitted it to the championship golf committee,

837
00:36:53.365 --> 00:36:57.005
whoever they are, whoever runs championship golf to say,

838
00:36:57.065 --> 00:36:58.525
Hey, is this a eyesore?

839
00:36:58.525 --> 00:37:00.325
And if it is, what are you gonna do about it?

840
00:37:00.905 --> 00:37:04.635
Um, I, I can't see taking natural

841
00:37:04.935 --> 00:37:05.955
woolly pads out.

842
00:37:06.555 --> 00:37:07.995
'cause people don't like the way they look.

843
00:37:08.825 --> 00:37:12.085
Um, I can understand the, the, the weeds, the grass.

844
00:37:12.235 --> 00:37:14.165
It's called grass that had pictures of it.

845
00:37:15.185 --> 00:37:17.765
It doesn't, I again,

846
00:37:17.795 --> 00:37:19.925
like natural stuff going all over the place.

847
00:37:20.285 --> 00:37:23.525
I really carry a problem. So we deferred that.

848
00:37:23.575 --> 00:37:24.845
We'll see what, what happens.

849
00:37:26.265 --> 00:37:27.805
It, it isn't really expensive,

850
00:37:27.825 --> 00:37:31.005
but it's the point of if it's a preserve, it,

851
00:37:31.075 --> 00:37:32.845
it's not a question because we can't go in

852
00:37:32.845 --> 00:37:34.045
and rip stuff out of preserve.

853
00:37:34.105 --> 00:37:35.965
That's, you know, those aren't touchable.

854
00:37:36.445 --> 00:37:38.645
I don't know how many other places are like this,

855
00:37:38.705 --> 00:37:40.525
but it's one of those things that keeps coming up,

856
00:37:40.525 --> 00:37:41.605
especially the key West.

857
00:37:41.985 --> 00:37:43.205
You know, somebody wants this

858
00:37:43.505 --> 00:37:44.845
and then somebody said, oh, they got this,

859
00:37:44.865 --> 00:37:46.085
so now somebody wants that

860
00:37:46.105 --> 00:37:47.605
and then somebody wants this and that.

861
00:37:48.665 --> 00:37:51.605
Um, we're trying to curb that as much as possible.

862
00:37:52.295 --> 00:37:53.295
That, that's all I have.

863
00:37:55.675 --> 00:37:58.345
Supervisor Kraus, nothing. Any comment? No.

864
00:37:59.515 --> 00:38:01.865
Donna, I have nothing. I have nothing else

865
00:38:01.895 --> 00:38:03.185
that I haven't already said today.

866
00:38:03.805 --> 00:38:05.585
So can I have a motion to adjourn?

867
00:38:05.845 --> 00:38:09.545
I'd like to make a motion to adjourn. I'll approve. Aye.

868
00:38:09.565 --> 00:38:10.825
Aye. Motion

869
00:38:14.475 --> 00:38:16.705
Bring to your attention and some

870
00:38:16.705 --> 00:38:19.225
of the financial observations that we saw during the year,

871
00:38:19.525 --> 00:38:20.905
and you were up to date with this,

872
00:38:21.045 --> 00:38:23.145
but there were some fence replacements.

873
00:38:23.685 --> 00:38:25.945
Uh, your investment earnings weren't quite as good

874
00:38:25.965 --> 00:38:27.265
as in the prior year.

875
00:38:27.265 --> 00:38:29.665
However, you still are remaining a good rate of return.

876
00:38:30.405 --> 00:38:33.185
Um, your general fund expenditures were under budget

877
00:38:34.285 --> 00:38:37.085
and, um, something that's in your audit report

878
00:38:37.085 --> 00:38:40.405
regarding the reserve policy there at the very bottom, um,

879
00:38:40.405 --> 00:38:43.605
that you have this policy, it has not been met yet

880
00:38:43.605 --> 00:38:45.365
because of the newness of the district,

881
00:38:45.665 --> 00:38:48.565
but you have three years to obtain that goal,

882
00:38:48.565 --> 00:38:50.245
that you have enough reserves put aside

883
00:38:50.825 --> 00:38:52.365
and management believes

884
00:38:52.365 --> 00:38:54.685
that you will be compliant within 2027.

885
00:38:57.495 --> 00:38:59.755
So I wanted to put this financial statement up here,

886
00:39:00.215 --> 00:39:02.595
and the first column is your original budget.

887
00:39:04.415 --> 00:39:07.715
The second column is the amended budget, the year

888
00:39:07.715 --> 00:39:09.355
to date actual and the variance.

889
00:39:09.375 --> 00:39:11.235
And so you'll see that, uh,

890
00:39:11.335 --> 00:39:13.955
the focus is mainly on expenditures.

891
00:39:14.425 --> 00:39:17.395
This is what you expect to spend.

892
00:39:17.735 --> 00:39:21.315
And of course you have budget workshops, A lot of detail,

893
00:39:21.615 --> 00:39:24.235
and this is probably your biggest internal control to ensure

894
00:39:24.265 --> 00:39:28.435
that, um, there's no over expenditure of your budget.

895
00:39:28.695 --> 00:39:32.955
And you'll see that you came in, uh, 64,000 under budget

896
00:39:33.625 --> 00:39:34.715
with your expenditures.

897
00:39:34.855 --> 00:39:38.315
So, um, you are properly amending it if you need it

898
00:39:38.315 --> 00:39:40.715
for unforeseen, um, situations.

899
00:39:40.775 --> 00:39:43.275
Of course, I think that one was the, uh, fence repair.

900
00:39:43.645 --> 00:39:45.235
There was an amended budget for that.

901
00:39:45.295 --> 00:39:47.995
So this is a good tool right here, um, to show

902
00:39:47.995 --> 00:39:50.275
that you are safeguarding, uh,

903
00:39:50.575 --> 00:39:53.595
and overseeing the specialist maintenance special

904
00:39:53.595 --> 00:39:54.955
assessments that are coming in.

905
00:39:59.415 --> 00:40:01.155
I'm happy to answer any questions on that.

906
00:40:04.225 --> 00:40:07.055
Again, we'd like to thank, uh, your finance team.

907
00:40:07.915 --> 00:40:10.975
Uh, and, uh, today you have finance director, you have your

908
00:40:11.775 --> 00:40:16.655
CFO, um, and, uh, your new assistant finance director, Mr.

909
00:40:17.125 --> 00:40:19.495
Dishman. And we appreciated working with everyone

910
00:40:19.495 --> 00:40:20.695
and they were very attentive

911
00:40:20.795 --> 00:40:24.775
and, uh, was able to get this, uh, audit report done timely.

912
00:40:27.125 --> 00:40:28.985
Are there any questions for the audit report?

913
00:40:29.205 --> 00:40:31.705
It was riveting reading. Yes.

914
00:40:35.935 --> 00:40:37.225
It's always good when it's good news.

915
00:40:38.365 --> 00:40:39.745
You wanted to keep it that way. Yeah.

916
00:40:40.645 --> 00:40:41.745
Do we have a motion then?

917
00:40:43.505 --> 00:40:48.365
Motion to accept to read the motion? No.

918
00:40:48.365 --> 00:40:51.245
Motion to accept is, is that okay? Yes, ma'am. I'll second.

919
00:40:52.175 --> 00:40:54.435
All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

920
00:40:54.535 --> 00:40:58.435
Any opposed on the old business? Thank you.

921
00:40:59.815 --> 00:41:00.285
Thank you.

922
00:41:06.165 --> 00:41:07.795
Sorry, my computer is spinning.

923
00:41:16.775 --> 00:41:19.555
We talked about this. The first item. Thank you Mr. Bris.

924
00:41:19.555 --> 00:41:22.315
The first item on old business is the villa entry lighting.

925
00:41:22.615 --> 00:41:24.115
Uh, which this was for staff

926
00:41:24.115 --> 00:41:27.955
to provide an update on the schedule, um, on the lighting

927
00:41:28.015 --> 00:41:30.035
and what needed to take place at each one.

928
00:41:30.295 --> 00:41:32.075
We did provide that via email,

929
00:41:32.735 --> 00:41:33.925
Um, just recently.

930
00:41:34.185 --> 00:41:36.245
So if you haven't had time to digest that

931
00:41:36.245 --> 00:41:39.085
and would like, um, to discuss it next month, that's fine.

932
00:41:39.085 --> 00:41:40.685
Otherwise, Mr. Harris is here if

933
00:41:40.685 --> 00:41:41.765
you have any questions on it.

934
00:41:45.075 --> 00:41:48.725
Well, my question is, can we make a recommendation

935
00:41:48.835 --> 00:41:51.445
that we don't do anything like this?

936
00:41:52.385 --> 00:41:54.325
That's just because the other

937
00:41:55.105 --> 00:41:58.205
CDD did without specifically knowing

938
00:41:58.465 --> 00:42:01.525
and voting that we're gonna be doing this over the years

939
00:42:01.795 --> 00:42:04.285
like this, if I'm understanding correctly of

940
00:42:04.305 --> 00:42:05.365
how this happened,

941
00:42:05.365 --> 00:42:07.045
because it happened in the other districts

942
00:42:07.045 --> 00:42:08.885
that we put lighting in the villas.

943
00:42:10.505 --> 00:42:13.805
That's correct. Um, typically this information is, is part

944
00:42:13.805 --> 00:42:14.805
of your budget review.

945
00:42:14.945 --> 00:42:16.445
So that's when the,

946
00:42:16.705 --> 00:42:19.285
the projects like this are presented to you for approval.

947
00:42:19.865 --> 00:42:22.845
Um, I don't know of any more that are, um,

948
00:42:25.805 --> 00:42:26.805
optional like this one.

949
00:42:27.145 --> 00:42:29.565
Um, but certainly if it is something that is optional,

950
00:42:29.935 --> 00:42:31.205
staff can call, um,

951
00:42:31.205 --> 00:42:32.965
special attention to that moving forward.

952
00:42:33.625 --> 00:42:35.605
You don't have to continue adding these.

953
00:42:35.635 --> 00:42:38.125
This is completely at the discretion of the board.

954
00:42:38.495 --> 00:42:40.845
Again, this is something that has gone back with all

955
00:42:40.845 --> 00:42:43.125
of the other districts, um, from inception and,

956
00:42:43.145 --> 00:42:46.845
and been added, but certainly it is your prerogative if you

957
00:42:46.845 --> 00:42:48.845
would like to continue adding 'em to your bill.

958
00:42:49.465 --> 00:42:51.285
And I didn't go back to the budget.

959
00:42:51.415 --> 00:42:54.365
Maybe someone else did, but I didn't go back to look

960
00:42:54.365 --> 00:42:56.685
and see exactly how it was stated

961
00:42:56.745 --> 00:42:59.245
or worded, you know, whether or not it was in there

962
00:42:59.265 --> 00:43:00.925
and just something we needed, you know,

963
00:43:00.945 --> 00:43:04.665
we felt like it needed to be done versus, you know,

964
00:43:04.855 --> 00:43:07.905
what it really is that it just kind of concerns

965
00:43:07.905 --> 00:43:08.905
Me. Sure. No,

966
00:43:08.905 --> 00:43:11.625
any, anything that is, um, not,

967
00:43:12.165 --> 00:43:14.705
or anything that is considered an enhancement

968
00:43:14.705 --> 00:43:17.585
or optional, certainly we can make sure that you understand

969
00:43:17.585 --> 00:43:20.265
that that is, um, a project that we are recommending.

970
00:43:20.265 --> 00:43:22.225
However, it's not something, um,

971
00:43:24.575 --> 00:43:26.225
necessarily that you have to do.

972
00:43:26.925 --> 00:43:29.785
So there's the verandas don't have those

973
00:43:30.645 --> 00:43:32.625
and there's other, I don't know, cottage homes

974
00:43:32.645 --> 00:43:34.865
or whatever that don't really have anything.

975
00:43:34.865 --> 00:43:36.665
They have a street going into it.

976
00:43:37.245 --> 00:43:41.505
Why, why did we pick these particular I houses to do that?

977
00:43:42.065 --> 00:43:43.865
I don't know the answer to that.

978
00:43:44.085 --> 00:43:47.105
I'd, I think that the answer is probably

979
00:43:47.105 --> 00:43:49.385
because when this first started in the beginning

980
00:43:49.385 --> 00:43:52.065
of the villages, there weren't cottages or verandas.

981
00:43:52.285 --> 00:43:54.785
Um, specifically verandas is something that didn't start

982
00:43:54.835 --> 00:43:56.585
until you came south of 44.

983
00:43:56.975 --> 00:44:00.625
Whereas villas are located from district one all the way

984
00:44:00.625 --> 00:44:03.385
through Mr. Harris, did you have something to add? No,

985
00:44:03.385 --> 00:44:04.825
My care, history, property management,

986
00:44:04.845 --> 00:44:06.665
he took the worked right out of my mouth.

987
00:44:07.605 --> 00:44:10.145
So that is something that certainly, you know,

988
00:44:10.145 --> 00:44:12.825
you could look at if you wanted to do it for verandas

989
00:44:12.825 --> 00:44:13.825
and cottages as well.

990
00:44:14.205 --> 00:44:16.505
Um, again, this is something that

991
00:44:17.125 --> 00:44:18.385
it doesn't have to be done.

992
00:44:18.685 --> 00:44:23.145
It was again, prior to my 19 years

993
00:44:23.215 --> 00:44:25.545
with the district, but my assumption is

994
00:44:25.545 --> 00:44:29.145
that it was based on residents, um, asking for it.

995
00:44:29.205 --> 00:44:31.365
And the boards at the time decided to go ahead

996
00:44:31.365 --> 00:44:33.885
and move forward as it would benefit the entire villages

997
00:44:34.115 --> 00:44:36.845
similar to adding the lights into the tunnels

998
00:44:36.845 --> 00:44:41.605
and things like that, where it's not done on construction,

999
00:44:41.705 --> 00:44:43.885
but it's something that has gone, um, back

1000
00:44:43.885 --> 00:44:45.245
and added at a future

1001
00:44:45.245 --> 00:44:46.245
Date. Yeah, I can, I can

1002
00:44:46.245 --> 00:44:47.765
see in the tunnels, especially with

1003
00:44:48.295 --> 00:44:50.645
these brilliant people that wear black clothes

1004
00:44:50.665 --> 00:44:52.005
and black shoes in the tunnel

1005
00:44:52.065 --> 00:44:55.365
and there's no lights, um, that that's a safety issue

1006
00:44:55.365 --> 00:44:56.965
to have lights and stuff in the tunnel.

1007
00:44:57.105 --> 00:44:58.845
But I, you know, if we do this

1008
00:44:58.905 --> 00:45:00.885
and then all of a sudden the verandas wanna do it

1009
00:45:00.885 --> 00:45:01.965
all that, that's a lot of money.

1010
00:45:02.805 --> 00:45:06.965
I mean to me, I, they, they,

1011
00:45:06.965 --> 00:45:09.245
they bought the development the way it was then

1012
00:45:09.245 --> 00:45:10.565
that's the way it should stay.

1013
00:45:12.865 --> 00:45:15.925
Uh, I haven't heard anybody, you know, say,

1014
00:45:15.945 --> 00:45:19.955
why aren't there lights at the entrance of our bill yet?

1015
00:45:20.035 --> 00:45:21.555
I don't, I don't know if anybody else has.

1016
00:45:21.785 --> 00:45:24.155
Well, we had some residents here.

1017
00:45:24.455 --> 00:45:25.995
Was that last month or December

1018
00:45:26.105 --> 00:45:29.955
that was wanting theirs moved up down in Una?

1019
00:45:30.105 --> 00:45:31.915
Yeah, in Una. One of theirs.

1020
00:45:31.915 --> 00:45:33.435
Well, they didn't know when it was scheduled.

1021
00:45:33.435 --> 00:45:35.795
They just knew some of them had 'em and some of them didn't.

1022
00:45:35.795 --> 00:45:37.915
And that's what brought this schedule forth.

1023
00:45:38.815 --> 00:45:41.315
Um, I I'm having a problem with it.

1024
00:45:41.545 --> 00:45:42.715
It's a, it's a lot of money.

1025
00:45:43.295 --> 00:45:47.875
Um, but I also, you know, I know that with the villages,

1026
00:45:47.935 --> 00:45:50.755
one thing, you know, we try to strive for is consistency.

1027
00:45:52.055 --> 00:45:53.875
Um, yeah, I think since we may have already

1028
00:45:53.905 --> 00:45:55.155
started doing it Yeah.

1029
00:45:55.155 --> 00:45:57.675
But in this particular case we may have to finish it,

1030
00:45:57.735 --> 00:46:00.995
but, you know, if if another group asked for it, I don't,

1031
00:46:01.135 --> 00:46:04.075
that'd be difficult to tell them that we would do it.

1032
00:46:04.855 --> 00:46:06.675
Can I just get a quick clarification?

1033
00:46:06.675 --> 00:46:09.195
When you say Villa, are we talking patio Villa,

1034
00:46:09.195 --> 00:46:11.035
courtyard Villa, or both?

1035
00:46:11.665 --> 00:46:13.675
Both. Both, yes. Gotcha.

1036
00:46:14.255 --> 00:46:18.195
So this has been a pre-program no thing, way before, right?

1037
00:46:19.035 --> 00:46:22.195
A lot of us, because we do have a lot of communications

1038
00:46:22.355 --> 00:46:25.075
with residents wanting their, their, their sign lit up,

1039
00:46:25.225 --> 00:46:27.035
they wanna be able to see it, they want their friends

1040
00:46:27.035 --> 00:46:28.515
to be able to see it when they come at night.

1041
00:46:28.655 --> 00:46:30.515
So along with like Mrs.

1042
00:46:30.515 --> 00:46:33.235
Duckett said, the the tunnel lighting, it's, it's,

1043
00:46:33.235 --> 00:46:35.115
it's just a pre-programmed thing that's happens,

1044
00:46:35.265 --> 00:46:38.675
happens naturally from as far back as I can remember.

1045
00:46:38.945 --> 00:46:41.315
Yeah, probably when we started it was 30 bucks.

1046
00:46:43.065 --> 00:46:44.715
Well, we used to put solar in,

1047
00:46:44.735 --> 00:46:46.395
but the solar, the trees got big.

1048
00:46:46.575 --> 00:46:48.915
The solar, we found out that the maintenance

1049
00:46:48.915 --> 00:46:52.475
of the solar systems exceeded what the costs are

1050
00:46:52.575 --> 00:46:53.595
for line voltage.

1051
00:46:53.815 --> 00:46:57.635
So. Sure. Um, it just kind of evolved over the years.

1052
00:46:58.625 --> 00:47:01.315
Well, and I know I spoke for, because I live in a veranda

1053
00:47:01.315 --> 00:47:03.435
and we have solar that a resident put in

1054
00:47:03.435 --> 00:47:05.355
and it's been there for two years, you know,

1055
00:47:05.355 --> 00:47:06.555
pretty cost effective

1056
00:47:07.415 --> 00:47:08.835
and I'll be glad to volunteer

1057
00:47:08.835 --> 00:47:11.195
to buy the next Destin, you know.

1058
00:47:11.335 --> 00:47:12.335
But

1059
00:47:13.865 --> 00:47:15.405
Didn't that report show up going out

1060
00:47:15.405 --> 00:47:17.965
to like 2034 or something like that?

1061
00:47:19.025 --> 00:47:21.365
Yes, it is. It is.

1062
00:47:21.365 --> 00:47:23.925
We only have a, a handful scheduled per year.

1063
00:47:24.585 --> 00:47:29.245
Um, again, that's based on the, the plan

1064
00:47:29.245 --> 00:47:32.805
that DPM has now based on the direction of the board,

1065
00:47:33.065 --> 00:47:37.595
we can speed it up, slow it down, or nix it all together.

1066
00:47:38.135 --> 00:47:39.915
Um, this is just something that, again,

1067
00:47:39.935 --> 00:47:41.115
as Mr. Harris stated,

1068
00:47:41.455 --> 00:47:44.075
is pretty consistent throughout the villages.

1069
00:47:44.075 --> 00:47:47.275
It's something that is put on their to-do list automatically

1070
00:47:47.275 --> 00:47:50.515
because it's, again, just something that has, um,

1071
00:47:50.785 --> 00:47:52.195
been done throughout the years,

1072
00:47:52.495 --> 00:47:54.715
but it, again, it is district property,

1073
00:47:54.775 --> 00:47:56.555
so it is completely up to the board whether

1074
00:47:56.555 --> 00:47:58.635
or not you'd like us to continue with this project.

1075
00:47:59.935 --> 00:48:01.555
But our, our goal

1076
00:48:01.575 --> 00:48:04.155
or our question for today is that whether

1077
00:48:04.155 --> 00:48:05.635
or not we'd wanna move da Luna,

1078
00:48:05.635 --> 00:48:07.475
those villas and Luna, right?

1079
00:48:07.895 --> 00:48:10.155
Is that our, is that even a question today?

1080
00:48:10.265 --> 00:48:13.155
Because I can't read these numbers when they would come back

1081
00:48:13.155 --> 00:48:14.195
up in the next budget.

1082
00:48:14.295 --> 00:48:15.515
So we, we don't have a question.

1083
00:48:15.855 --> 00:48:18.875
You, the board asks us to provide you with the schedule.

1084
00:48:19.025 --> 00:48:21.835
This is the schedule. Uh, we're going to continue on

1085
00:48:21.835 --> 00:48:24.435
with this schedule and adding them based on the schedule

1086
00:48:24.815 --> 00:48:27.235
unless the board directs us to do something different.

1087
00:48:33.505 --> 00:48:35.675
Well, again, I can't read these numbers, so I

1088
00:48:35.675 --> 00:48:36.675
Don't know. Yeah, the o the

1089
00:48:36.675 --> 00:48:37.795
other, the other thing that kind

1090
00:48:37.795 --> 00:48:39.875
of bothers me is we have, you know,

1091
00:48:39.875 --> 00:48:42.115
at the different villages, we have one entry

1092
00:48:42.115 --> 00:48:45.515
where we have a sign and some of the villages have come back

1093
00:48:45.515 --> 00:48:47.715
and said, well, you don't have an entry at this place.

1094
00:48:48.175 --> 00:48:51.675
And then we said, well, you know, if we add any, you know,

1095
00:48:51.675 --> 00:48:53.035
if we accepted every request,

1096
00:48:53.145 --> 00:48:55.515
we'd be spending millions of extra dollars.

1097
00:48:55.735 --> 00:48:57.675
So, you know, someone could come back

1098
00:48:57.675 --> 00:48:58.675
and say, well, you're adding lights

1099
00:48:58.735 --> 00:49:01.075
and there's no, you know, that doesn't, um,

1100
00:49:02.705 --> 00:49:04.195
that doesn't accommodate everybody.

1101
00:49:04.415 --> 00:49:05.955
You know, everybody doesn't have lights.

1102
00:49:06.335 --> 00:49:10.715
So it, it's a conundrum. Agree. That's the word of today.

1103
00:49:10.715 --> 00:49:12.835
I agree with you. I I, I agree with you.

1104
00:49:12.905 --> 00:49:15.235
It's very tough because I,

1105
00:49:15.295 --> 00:49:17.235
and we've had this conversation, when we do

1106
00:49:17.965 --> 00:49:19.275
plant enhancements,

1107
00:49:19.675 --> 00:49:21.355
I think we should call 'em something else

1108
00:49:21.385 --> 00:49:25.595
because that gives people the opinion that we are enhancing

1109
00:49:25.595 --> 00:49:26.915
what the developer left us.

1110
00:49:27.245 --> 00:49:29.715
Where maybe rep, I don't know, we, we need

1111
00:49:29.715 --> 00:49:31.755
to find a different word, but, um,

1112
00:49:36.505 --> 00:49:39.185
I guess I wonder how many people even know that this

1113
00:49:40.465 --> 00:49:43.365
is planned, this far out, you know, and whether

1114
00:49:43.385 --> 00:49:47.005
or not we, I mean, what would happen if we said no,

1115
00:49:47.005 --> 00:49:48.205
we're gonna stop it now,

1116
00:49:48.425 --> 00:49:52.565
and then if we get feedback, then maybe we look at it again.

1117
00:49:53.585 --> 00:49:54.605
Is that a possibility?

1118
00:49:55.765 --> 00:49:58.285
Anything's a possibility. Um, you know, I,

1119
00:49:58.525 --> 00:50:01.805
I wouldn't necessarily stop it until people ask,

1120
00:50:01.805 --> 00:50:04.805
because then that's exactly what you just referred to,

1121
00:50:04.805 --> 00:50:06.765
that we don't do it because people ask.

1122
00:50:06.785 --> 00:50:08.245
We do it because we think it's in the

1123
00:50:08.245 --> 00:50:09.405
best interest of the district.

1124
00:50:09.985 --> 00:50:12.885
So if you think it's in the best interest of district 13

1125
00:50:13.585 --> 00:50:15.765
to add lights to the entries of these villas,

1126
00:50:15.875 --> 00:50:19.405
then this is part of your five year budget forecast.

1127
00:50:19.625 --> 00:50:20.885
You have adequate funds.

1128
00:50:21.105 --> 00:50:24.205
We, we, our recommendations on your maintenance assessments

1129
00:50:24.665 --> 00:50:26.725
are based on the fact that you're going to do this.

1130
00:50:27.425 --> 00:50:30.525
So if you think it's in the best interest of district 13,

1131
00:50:30.715 --> 00:50:32.645
then I would recommend continuing forward.

1132
00:50:33.305 --> 00:50:36.765
If you don't, if you think that this is not something

1133
00:50:36.765 --> 00:50:38.765
that you should be using your maintenance assessments on

1134
00:50:38.765 --> 00:50:41.045
and it's not benefiting the residents of District 13,

1135
00:50:41.475 --> 00:50:44.005
then I would recommend that that's what I would say.

1136
00:50:44.445 --> 00:50:47.325
I would stop it. What I wouldn't do is piecemeal it.

1137
00:50:47.345 --> 00:50:49.765
So I wouldn't wait to have residents come

1138
00:50:49.765 --> 00:50:52.125
and ask you for certain areas and then move forward.

1139
00:50:52.605 --> 00:50:53.885
I would either do it for all of them

1140
00:50:54.825 --> 00:50:57.965
or decide it's not something that, a project you want

1141
00:50:57.965 --> 00:50:59.245
to move forward with and stop.

1142
00:50:59.945 --> 00:51:04.005
Um, if anything I'd, I would, um, be curious

1143
00:51:04.545 --> 00:51:08.365
to know how much it would take to add it onto the cottages

1144
00:51:08.365 --> 00:51:10.565
and the verandas just so that you have

1145
00:51:10.565 --> 00:51:12.405
that number in your back pocket.

1146
00:51:12.755 --> 00:51:16.525
Because I, I do believe that the only reason that

1147
00:51:16.525 --> 00:51:18.365
that's not part of the plan is

1148
00:51:18.365 --> 00:51:20.205
because we didn't have verandas

1149
00:51:20.205 --> 00:51:22.565
and cottages back when, again,

1150
00:51:22.645 --> 00:51:25.165
20 plus years ago when these projects started.

1151
00:51:25.885 --> 00:51:27.005
I don't know that to be true.

1152
00:51:27.065 --> 00:51:28.405
But that might be something too

1153
00:51:28.405 --> 00:51:30.525
that would help you in your decision.

1154
00:51:30.525 --> 00:51:32.805
Because if it's in the best interest of the villas,

1155
00:51:32.805 --> 00:51:34.845
then maybe it's in the best interest of the cottages

1156
00:51:34.845 --> 00:51:37.405
and verandas and it, it may be something

1157
00:51:37.405 --> 00:51:39.205
that you wanna look at for all or nothing

1158
00:51:40.225 --> 00:51:45.205
For, for district, say district 12, south of 44,

1159
00:51:46.495 --> 00:51:49.275
are they doing the cottages in verandas also,

1160
00:51:49.575 --> 00:51:52.435
or are they they're just doing the same plan.

1161
00:51:52.435 --> 00:51:54.955
You've got the patio and, and courtyard bills.

1162
00:51:55.385 --> 00:51:57.395
Just for my own benefit,

1163
00:51:57.655 --> 00:52:00.995
and I'm not holding you the number, what does it cost

1164
00:52:01.015 --> 00:52:02.515
to put in lights, ballpark?

1165
00:52:03.415 --> 00:52:04.995
Um, I don't have that in front of me.

1166
00:52:05.015 --> 00:52:07.315
It is on the sheet that Ms. Williamson has.

1167
00:52:07.615 --> 00:52:09.515
You're welcome to read. Do you have a microscope?

1168
00:52:11.255 --> 00:52:15.475
So it, it really depends based on, um, the,

1169
00:52:15.735 --> 00:52:18.995
the villa unit, but it looks like on here it ranges anywhere

1170
00:52:18.995 --> 00:52:23.835
from 4,000 to 10, 11,000.

1171
00:52:23.865 --> 00:52:25.075
Does that sound right? Yes.

1172
00:52:25.385 --> 00:52:28.995
Younger I, yeah, with no glasses,

1173
00:52:29.255 --> 00:52:32.515
But, but really anywhere between 4,000 and 11,000.

1174
00:52:33.255 --> 00:52:35.515
And we, we did email that spreadsheet out.

1175
00:52:35.535 --> 00:52:37.795
It was too late to add it to the agenda.

1176
00:52:38.295 --> 00:52:40.355
So we can certainly add that to old business

1177
00:52:40.375 --> 00:52:41.795
for next month if you'd like to,

1178
00:52:42.055 --> 00:52:43.955
to discuss it when you have it in front of you.

1179
00:52:44.415 --> 00:52:45.875
My, my main concern is

1180
00:52:46.615 --> 00:52:49.195
the feedback we got when we raised the taxes,

1181
00:52:49.445 --> 00:52:52.715
which was legitimate for, you know, financial security.

1182
00:52:53.575 --> 00:52:56.195
But, you know, over the next five years, are we gonna have

1183
00:52:56.195 --> 00:52:57.315
to raise taxes again?

1184
00:52:57.315 --> 00:53:01.155
Because my main concern is not spending money so

1185
00:53:01.155 --> 00:53:02.475
that we can avoid paying

1186
00:53:02.545 --> 00:53:04.475
because interest rates are lower,

1187
00:53:04.525 --> 00:53:05.715
we're not getting as much money.

1188
00:53:06.375 --> 00:53:07.755
Um, we're not building anymore.

1189
00:53:07.775 --> 00:53:09.275
So we're not gonna get any more income.

1190
00:53:10.015 --> 00:53:12.875
Um, I, you know,

1191
00:53:13.295 --> 00:53:15.115
you said we have enough money in the budget.

1192
00:53:15.175 --> 00:53:17.355
Do we have enough money in the budget over the next five

1193
00:53:17.355 --> 00:53:18.715
years with the income that we have?

1194
00:53:20.375 --> 00:53:24.395
That's, these plans were taken into consideration when we

1195
00:53:24.675 --> 00:53:26.725
provided you with that five year outlook.

1196
00:53:27.045 --> 00:53:29.165
I don't remember off of the top of my head

1197
00:53:29.555 --> 00:53:30.925
what our recommendations were

1198
00:53:30.925 --> 00:53:33.285
for maintenance assessments over the next five years.

1199
00:53:33.675 --> 00:53:36.165
That is something that we will be providing you, um,

1200
00:53:36.165 --> 00:53:38.885
during your budget workshop, your meeting this,

1201
00:53:39.065 --> 00:53:40.325
um, this year as well.

1202
00:53:40.785 --> 00:53:43.845
And we can certainly, I mean, even if you want to hold this

1203
00:53:44.175 --> 00:53:46.685
until we have those budget meetings so

1204
00:53:46.685 --> 00:53:48.565
that you can better understand the next five years

1205
00:53:48.585 --> 00:53:51.485
and where you look financially before you decide on this.

1206
00:53:51.545 --> 00:53:55.325
We can certainly put a hold on this with any new, um,

1207
00:53:55.675 --> 00:53:57.925
installations moving forward until you've had time

1208
00:53:58.145 --> 00:53:59.805
to go through your budget cycle. Yeah.

1209
00:53:59.965 --> 00:54:01.485
'cause if you, if you, how many houses

1210
00:54:01.585 --> 00:54:02.805
do we have left to do?

1211
00:54:02.905 --> 00:54:04.725
Or how many entrances?

1212
00:54:05.665 --> 00:54:09.045
Um, just a, just a just the guess is fine.

1213
00:54:10.065 --> 00:54:12.485
So you, uh, the majority of them, yeah.

1214
00:54:12.765 --> 00:54:16.885
I mean, yeah, you probably have about five a year

1215
00:54:16.985 --> 00:54:19.725
for the next 10 years.

1216
00:54:20.465 --> 00:54:23.445
So that's, that's 50 times, let's say the average

1217
00:54:23.505 --> 00:54:28.165
of $5,000, that's 250,000 if my math is correct.

1218
00:54:28.985 --> 00:54:30.605
Um, that's, that's a lot of money.

1219
00:54:30.905 --> 00:54:34.765
And you know, if something comes up, uh, like a, a sinkhole

1220
00:54:34.765 --> 00:54:37.085
or whatever it is, uh, you know, another bridge problem

1221
00:54:37.105 --> 00:54:39.405
or whatever that's gonna cost us money,

1222
00:54:39.955 --> 00:54:42.765
that $250,000 would be very,

1223
00:54:43.465 --> 00:54:45.205
you know, helpful.

1224
00:54:45.425 --> 00:54:49.005
And I, it's just, it's, it's a lot of money.

1225
00:54:49.025 --> 00:54:51.765
And does it benefit anybody? No, it doesn't benefit anybody.

1226
00:54:53.605 --> 00:54:55.285
I What's the benefit? It looks nice.

1227
00:54:56.395 --> 00:54:58.485
Well, well, I mean, again, I would just refer

1228
00:54:58.485 --> 00:54:59.925
to the resident who came, the,

1229
00:55:00.025 --> 00:55:02.045
the whole reason we're having this discussion, it was

1230
00:55:02.045 --> 00:55:04.205
that the resident wanted the lighting added

1231
00:55:04.305 --> 00:55:05.325
to her villa sooner.

1232
00:55:05.795 --> 00:55:07.045
Yeah. But, but again, this,

1233
00:55:07.115 --> 00:55:08.605
it's a policy decision on the board.

1234
00:55:08.825 --> 00:55:11.085
It, it is completely your decision if this is something

1235
00:55:11.085 --> 00:55:12.285
that you would like to move forward with.

1236
00:55:12.745 --> 00:55:15.165
Uh, but certainly if at a minimum, if you would like us

1237
00:55:15.185 --> 00:55:17.885
to hold on the project until budget, um,

1238
00:55:17.885 --> 00:55:19.885
it gives you a little bit more time, you know,

1239
00:55:19.885 --> 00:55:22.005
to maybe have conversations with your residents

1240
00:55:22.305 --> 00:55:23.765
and then see what the next five year

1241
00:55:24.045 --> 00:55:25.165
forecast looks like. Yeah.

1242
00:55:25.435 --> 00:55:26.435
Yeah. I think that would Be

1243
00:55:26.435 --> 00:55:27.325
good. I guar,

1244
00:55:27.325 --> 00:55:29.845
I, I agree with what your assessment is,

1245
00:55:29.945 --> 00:55:32.405
but my, my whole issue is

1246
00:55:34.265 --> 00:55:36.965
the village villages is a whole,

1247
00:55:37.825 --> 00:55:42.565
and if we're going to not do this one thing,

1248
00:55:43.625 --> 00:55:48.015
is district 13 gonna look different than the rest

1249
00:55:48.035 --> 00:55:50.775
of the districts in, you know, in the villages?

1250
00:55:51.535 --> 00:55:55.915
I don't know if, again, John, I, I totally agree with you

1251
00:55:56.255 --> 00:55:58.835
as far as, as far as the money situation goes,

1252
00:55:59.695 --> 00:56:04.645
but as far as the aesthetic, you know, is it,

1253
00:56:04.745 --> 00:56:06.485
is it gonna be, um, is it gonna be an

1254
00:56:06.485 --> 00:56:08.685
issue over a period of time? You know what I mean?

1255
00:56:08.685 --> 00:56:10.925
I I, I agree with you personally. Yeah.

1256
00:56:11.245 --> 00:56:13.325
I would remove all the flowers. They,

1257
00:56:14.995 --> 00:56:17.525
That, that way we don't have to keep replacing them. I'm

1258
00:56:17.525 --> 00:56:18.525
Sorry. I

1259
00:56:18.525 --> 00:56:21.485
know, I know. I would be strung up and tar and feathered

1260
00:56:21.485 --> 00:56:23.045
and dragged out to the street for that.

1261
00:56:23.305 --> 00:56:25.045
But, you know, I just, you know,

1262
00:56:25.505 --> 00:56:26.845
But we bought with the flowers,

1263
00:56:27.025 --> 00:56:28.205
we didn't buy with lighting.

1264
00:56:28.675 --> 00:56:30.805
Yeah. I, I would, let's, let's take a look at the budget.

1265
00:56:31.085 --> 00:56:33.245
I think that, and I mean, if we're comfortable

1266
00:56:33.305 --> 00:56:34.765
and it looks like we've got, you know,

1267
00:56:34.795 --> 00:56:36.205
good, a good hold on it.

1268
00:56:36.665 --> 00:56:38.925
Uh, then we can cont, I mean, we can always, in three

1269
00:56:38.925 --> 00:56:40.525
or four years, if something really bad happens

1270
00:56:40.585 --> 00:56:43.845
and we start getting into financial trouble, we can stop,

1271
00:56:44.705 --> 00:56:46.965
you know, we don't commit to it. Hopefully we don't

1272
00:56:46.985 --> 00:56:47.985
Get to that point. Think that makes that most

1273
00:56:47.985 --> 00:56:49.245
sense to look at it again.

1274
00:56:49.245 --> 00:56:51.365
That way we are being responsible with,

1275
00:56:51.865 --> 00:56:53.245
you know, our residents. I

1276
00:56:53.245 --> 00:56:57.805
Mean, if it was $20,000, I, but $250,000 is a lot.

1277
00:56:58.615 --> 00:56:59.845
Could we discuss about

1278
00:57:00.565 --> 00:57:01.805
District 12 and District 14?

1279
00:57:01.985 --> 00:57:04.565
See what their scope is? I mean, is that

1280
00:57:04.565 --> 00:57:05.765
Something it's, uh, how much

1281
00:57:06.225 --> 00:57:07.285
Are they gonna do the same thing?

1282
00:57:07.445 --> 00:57:09.205
I mean, what are they looking at? Do we

1283
00:57:09.205 --> 00:57:13.005
Know they, yes, they, um, I'm not sure about 14.

1284
00:57:13.385 --> 00:57:14.805
Um, I don't know how many villas they have,

1285
00:57:14.805 --> 00:57:17.205
but District 12, just like all the other districts

1286
00:57:17.205 --> 00:57:19.005
have added lighting,

1287
00:57:20.505 --> 00:57:21.885
But they'd probably be like us.

1288
00:57:21.955 --> 00:57:25.605
They won't know to question it depending on

1289
00:57:25.625 --> 00:57:29.085
how it's presented in the, and I'm not doing that as a slam.

1290
00:57:29.325 --> 00:57:31.245
'cause I don't remember. I just wrote myself a note

1291
00:57:31.245 --> 00:57:32.325
to go back and look at the budget,

1292
00:57:33.025 --> 00:57:35.565
but they wouldn't know to, to question it.

1293
00:57:36.195 --> 00:57:38.125
They, they, you're right.

1294
00:57:38.345 --> 00:57:41.405
Um, you know, certainly it, again, we don't present it

1295
00:57:41.585 --> 00:57:43.565
as in a do you want to,

1296
00:57:43.565 --> 00:57:46.565
because it, it does remain staff's recommendation

1297
00:57:46.565 --> 00:57:47.565
to move forward with it.

1298
00:57:48.005 --> 00:57:50.245
I mean, this is something that, as you stated,

1299
00:57:50.395 --> 00:57:52.645
consistency is very important throughout the villages.

1300
00:57:53.105 --> 00:57:57.565
Um, and, you know, we, we wouldn't be doing it if we didn't

1301
00:57:57.565 --> 00:57:58.845
and we wouldn't be continuing

1302
00:57:58.845 --> 00:58:00.245
with this project if we didn't think

1303
00:58:00.245 --> 00:58:02.205
that it was in the best interest of the resident.

1304
00:58:02.785 --> 00:58:06.805
Um, so it will remain our, um, our position

1305
00:58:06.805 --> 00:58:08.645
and our recommendation to continue moving forward.

1306
00:58:08.835 --> 00:58:10.645
That doesn't mean you have to accept our recommendation

1307
00:58:10.645 --> 00:58:12.565
and, you know, certainly you can delay our,

1308
00:58:12.625 --> 00:58:13.685
our hold off on it.

1309
00:58:14.025 --> 00:58:18.525
But we, we would continue with the, the other districts

1310
00:58:18.525 --> 00:58:20.805
with recommending that they continue with these projects.

1311
00:58:20.985 --> 00:58:22.645
And so, like in District 12,

1312
00:58:22.825 --> 00:58:25.885
has there ever been any discussion about this so

1313
00:58:25.885 --> 00:58:28.525
that they even have the thoughts that, you know,

1314
00:58:28.555 --> 00:58:29.605
that have come here?

1315
00:58:30.745 --> 00:58:32.325
Not in a meeting that I've been in,

1316
00:58:32.625 --> 00:58:36.805
but I don't start with meetings, um, with board meetings

1317
00:58:36.815 --> 00:58:39.685
until they're usually several years down the road.

1318
00:58:40.225 --> 00:58:41.485
Um, so that doesn't mean that

1319
00:58:41.485 --> 00:58:44.045
that discussion didn't take place prior to me taking over,

1320
00:58:44.385 --> 00:58:47.325
but just like, just like with district 13, it wasn't

1321
00:58:47.375 --> 00:58:48.565
until several years ago

1322
00:58:48.565 --> 00:58:50.725
that I started attending the meetings. No.

1323
00:58:51.675 --> 00:58:54.245
Okay. So we agree.

1324
00:58:54.245 --> 00:58:56.565
We're gonna wait and discuss it again at budget time.

1325
00:58:57.815 --> 00:59:01.525
We'll make sure this is a, um, a line item to be discussed

1326
00:59:01.525 --> 00:59:02.605
during your, your budget.

1327
00:59:02.825 --> 00:59:04.525
All right. Thank you very much.

1328
00:59:06.035 --> 00:59:08.775
And the next item on old business, um,

1329
00:59:09.155 --> 00:59:11.015
is a FEMA reimbursement update.

1330
00:59:11.495 --> 00:59:12.655
I don't have an update.

1331
00:59:12.795 --> 00:59:15.335
We, um, have not received anything from fema.

1332
00:59:16.115 --> 00:59:19.455
We can certainly continue to keep this on your old business,

1333
00:59:19.515 --> 00:59:22.485
but I assure you as soon as we receive an update from fema,

1334
00:59:22.485 --> 00:59:25.455
we will provide it, um,

1335
00:59:25.705 --> 00:59:27.815
under the non-district 13 items.

1336
00:59:28.195 --> 00:59:29.815
Uh, we have sod concerns.

1337
00:59:29.995 --> 00:59:31.335
Uh, we don't have any updates,

1338
00:59:31.515 --> 00:59:33.935
but Mr. Harris is available if you have any questions.

1339
00:59:35.245 --> 00:59:36.135
I'll be back there dancing.

1340
00:59:40.115 --> 00:59:44.935
Um, the M 18 tunnel, um, as you've been, um, aware,

1341
00:59:45.035 --> 00:59:47.255
we have been, um, moving forward with adding

1342
00:59:47.255 --> 00:59:48.495
that additional drainage.

1343
00:59:48.645 --> 00:59:50.135
That update has also been going

1344
00:59:50.135 --> 00:59:51.895
to the project wide advisory committee at

1345
00:59:51.935 --> 00:59:52.975
a fund through them.

1346
00:59:54.355 --> 00:59:57.175
The performance update on the new aquatic maintenance

1347
00:59:57.175 --> 01:00:00.135
contractor will be provided at your next meeting in March.

1348
01:00:01.155 --> 01:00:05.455
And then, uh, we have the update for 1307 Tate Terrace,

1349
01:00:05.455 --> 01:00:07.215
which will be provided by Mr. Armstrong.

1350
01:00:07.825 --> 01:00:09.815
Hello board, Matt Armstrong Community Standards.

1351
01:00:09.995 --> 01:00:13.775
So, um, when we received the concern regarding the, uh,

1352
01:00:13.975 --> 01:00:16.295
property at 1307, about a makeshift fence

1353
01:00:16.365 --> 01:00:18.615
that is being put up for a dog permanent structure,

1354
01:00:18.675 --> 01:00:21.135
we went out there and the homeowner was out there

1355
01:00:21.135 --> 01:00:24.255
and he had this little rinky-dink makeshift, um,

1356
01:00:24.395 --> 01:00:26.135
put together for, uh, his dog.

1357
01:00:26.635 --> 01:00:28.975
Uh, his answer was that it's temporary.

1358
01:00:29.035 --> 01:00:30.815
He puts it out there instead of tethering his dog.

1359
01:00:31.395 --> 01:00:33.655
Um, he puts this out there, so when he's outside the dog

1360
01:00:33.655 --> 01:00:36.895
to be out there and not tethered, um, we did inform 'em

1361
01:00:36.895 --> 01:00:38.335
that, you know, fencing is not permitted.

1362
01:00:38.835 --> 01:00:41.575
And, um, we also discussed about a concern

1363
01:00:41.575 --> 01:00:43.695
that we had received regarding an rv.

1364
01:00:44.155 --> 01:00:46.535
Um, an initial one was over a year ago,

1365
01:00:46.555 --> 01:00:48.495
but just kind of reiterated, reminded him about the role.

1366
01:00:48.495 --> 01:00:49.335
He goes, yep, I understand

1367
01:00:49.335 --> 01:00:50.335
completely after your first visit.

1368
01:00:50.415 --> 01:00:52.615
I, it comes and goes. I don't bring it back here and there.

1369
01:00:53.195 --> 01:00:56.015
Uh, we did receive a concern four days ago regarding a,

1370
01:00:56.215 --> 01:00:58.135
a trailer in the driveway when staffing out there.

1371
01:00:58.135 --> 01:00:59.455
There was no trailer in the driveway.

1372
01:00:59.875 --> 01:01:01.535
Uh, so if there was one, it was gone.

1373
01:01:02.235 --> 01:01:04.175
Um, again, we don't feel like the

1374
01:01:04.175 --> 01:01:05.535
homeowner's playing cat and mouse with us.

1375
01:01:05.575 --> 01:01:07.575
I know that we discussed that at the last board meeting if

1376
01:01:07.575 --> 01:01:08.855
they're gonna be playing games and that's something

1377
01:01:08.855 --> 01:01:10.055
we'll definitely move forward with the Dr.

1378
01:01:10.215 --> 01:01:12.375
'cause we're not going to do that. Uh, but

1379
01:01:12.495 --> 01:01:15.415
after initial discussion, he goes, no, it is just my way

1380
01:01:15.415 --> 01:01:17.775
of letting my dog kind of be out in the yard

1381
01:01:17.775 --> 01:01:19.335
with me when I'm there, type of a thing.

1382
01:01:19.795 --> 01:01:22.215
Um, I have spoken with the homeowners, um,

1383
01:01:22.795 --> 01:01:24.015
before this meeting, um,

1384
01:01:24.115 --> 01:01:25.815
and said that, no, that's not really the case.

1385
01:01:25.815 --> 01:01:28.015
Even the dog gets out, he sticks it between two lawn chairs

1386
01:01:28.015 --> 01:01:29.135
and the dog goes running free,

1387
01:01:29.135 --> 01:01:30.215
then we're out chasing the dog.

1388
01:01:30.215 --> 01:01:32.815
Luckily the dog hasn't gotten hit yet, so, um,

1389
01:01:33.005 --> 01:01:35.215
it's still something that we will continue to review

1390
01:01:35.215 --> 01:01:39.295
underneath the current, um, the current, uh, complaint.

1391
01:01:39.295 --> 01:01:41.975
We haven't closed it yet, um, to see if there's something

1392
01:01:41.975 --> 01:01:44.215
that we can see regarding if there's a violation that exists

1393
01:01:44.215 --> 01:01:46.295
for what he's, he's he's doing for his dog.

1394
01:01:48.605 --> 01:01:51.545
So he can put up a makeshift fence if he's sitting

1395
01:01:51.545 --> 01:01:52.585
there. Just so

1396
01:01:52.585 --> 01:01:54.265
I understand the de restrictions, figure out,

1397
01:01:54.365 --> 01:01:56.465
put up a permanent structure barrier and things like that.

1398
01:01:56.595 --> 01:01:58.705
Where he's doing is he's not tethering the dog,

1399
01:01:58.775 --> 01:02:00.905
he's just kind of putting up little playpen space for him.

1400
01:02:00.905 --> 01:02:02.545
So I really don't have an answer yet for that.

1401
01:02:02.555 --> 01:02:04.145
We'll review it to see if there's something as far

1402
01:02:04.145 --> 01:02:05.225
as a violation would exist.

1403
01:02:09.825 --> 01:02:12.595
Okay, And that concludes all business.

1404
01:02:13.265 --> 01:02:16.115
Alright, so now we have our informational items, our, uh,

1405
01:02:16.185 --> 01:02:17.235
financial statements.

1406
01:02:18.465 --> 01:02:20.525
Are there any questions or comments about that?

1407
01:02:23.255 --> 01:02:26.435
No DPM monthly report? Any questions?

1408
01:02:29.295 --> 01:02:30.755
And now back to you, Ms. Duckett.

1409
01:02:31.615 --> 01:02:34.275
Yes, ma'am. Um, the, um,

1410
01:02:34.685 --> 01:02:37.435
first item on old on district manager reports.

1411
01:02:37.595 --> 01:02:40.155
I will once again turn it over to Mr. Armstrong,

1412
01:02:40.175 --> 01:02:42.795
who will give you an update on gov build, uh,

1413
01:02:42.795 --> 01:02:44.835
which we gave you a preview to a couple months ago.

1414
01:02:47.725 --> 01:02:49.795
Hello again, board Met Armstrong Community Standards.

1415
01:02:50.095 --> 01:02:51.275
So we'll see if it shows up.

1416
01:02:51.355 --> 01:02:54.515
I know we're having some network issues.

1417
01:02:55.055 --> 01:02:56.835
If not, we can always bring it back next month.

1418
01:02:58.365 --> 01:03:01.465
Um, on the agenda is a, it was a brief presentation

1419
01:03:01.465 --> 01:03:03.385
regarding, um, screenshots of

1420
01:03:03.385 --> 01:03:05.265
what the architectural view process looks like.

1421
01:03:05.805 --> 01:03:06.905
Uh, if you've seen it

1422
01:03:06.905 --> 01:03:10.185
before we got to the meeting today, it is a exact comparison

1423
01:03:10.245 --> 01:03:11.625
to the paper application process.

1424
01:03:12.485 --> 01:03:13.545
The questions are the same.

1425
01:03:13.805 --> 01:03:15.705
The information that you're gonna provide is the same.

1426
01:03:15.725 --> 01:03:18.425
The only difference is instead of processing,

1427
01:03:18.535 --> 01:03:21.545
like we did last year, it was close to 13,000 applications,

1428
01:03:21.565 --> 01:03:24.185
but each application is five pages long.

1429
01:03:24.285 --> 01:03:25.305
So that's a lot of paper.

1430
01:03:25.605 --> 01:03:28.025
Now, we've electronically gone to this method of,

1431
01:03:28.085 --> 01:03:29.625
of submitting applications online.

1432
01:03:30.125 --> 01:03:31.705
Uh, when we receive paper applications,

1433
01:03:31.765 --> 01:03:33.425
we actually put them online.

1434
01:03:33.445 --> 01:03:36.145
So what happens is a user, a homeowner

1435
01:03:36.205 --> 01:03:38.625
or a contractor will, um, create an account

1436
01:03:39.085 --> 01:03:42.065
and all that asks is for your email address, your name,

1437
01:03:42.365 --> 01:03:43.545
and a password.

1438
01:03:43.565 --> 01:03:46.225
That's all that we need. Once that's created, here's your,

1439
01:03:46.295 --> 01:03:47.825
your landing page and you'll see the

1440
01:03:47.825 --> 01:03:48.985
architectural review application.

1441
01:03:48.985 --> 01:03:50.505
You click on it, and again,

1442
01:03:50.505 --> 01:03:52.545
it's the same exact way the form looks.

1443
01:03:52.885 --> 01:03:54.825
So you put your contact information on there,

1444
01:03:54.825 --> 01:03:56.345
you would end up also, there's a page

1445
01:03:56.365 --> 01:03:58.105
for your contractor's information on there.

1446
01:03:58.105 --> 01:03:59.865
Then you're gonna describe what the project is.

1447
01:04:00.405 --> 01:04:02.425
The last page is the disclaimer, just like any,

1448
01:04:02.425 --> 01:04:04.825
all the other applications where you say that, yes,

1449
01:04:04.865 --> 01:04:06.385
I understand it's a publicly noticed meeting

1450
01:04:06.605 --> 01:04:08.345
and you're gonna sign for your application.

1451
01:04:08.405 --> 01:04:09.985
You hit submit and we receive it.

1452
01:04:10.935 --> 01:04:14.185
Only difference is now is you receive an email that states,

1453
01:04:14.185 --> 01:04:15.625
thank you for submitting your application.

1454
01:04:15.625 --> 01:04:16.945
It'll be re re received

1455
01:04:16.945 --> 01:04:18.625
and reviewed within 14 business days,

1456
01:04:19.445 --> 01:04:22.065
my staff being received on our big dashboard

1457
01:04:22.365 --> 01:04:23.945
of applications that have been submitted.

1458
01:04:23.965 --> 01:04:26.065
And we assign it up, uh, date to be reviewed

1459
01:04:26.065 --> 01:04:29.145
by the hearing officer, at which time they then receive this

1460
01:04:29.145 --> 01:04:31.745
email that says, you now have been assigned a meeting date.

1461
01:04:32.125 --> 01:04:34.745
And in this case it was December 17th, 2025.

1462
01:04:34.775 --> 01:04:35.865
It's completely automated.

1463
01:04:35.865 --> 01:04:38.265
The homeowner now receives this as well as the contractor.

1464
01:04:38.925 --> 01:04:40.745
If they want to, they can view their application

1465
01:04:40.745 --> 01:04:42.345
and just view where they are in the process.

1466
01:04:42.925 --> 01:04:45.225
We now have our meeting, and if it is approved,

1467
01:04:45.245 --> 01:04:47.985
you receive this email that states, thank you very much,

1468
01:04:48.015 --> 01:04:49.385
your application was approved.

1469
01:04:49.385 --> 01:04:50.505
Here are the stipulations

1470
01:04:50.565 --> 01:04:53.105
and the signature from the chairman, uh, for the,

1471
01:04:53.105 --> 01:04:54.305
in this case, uh, this was

1472
01:04:54.305 --> 01:04:56.945
for the a RC meeting in the morning meeting with my example.

1473
01:04:57.125 --> 01:04:59.465
So, um, but these are the types of communications

1474
01:04:59.465 --> 01:05:01.265
that residents will now receive along the process

1475
01:05:01.285 --> 01:05:02.665
to let them know where they are and

1476
01:05:02.665 --> 01:05:03.825
their architectural review process.

1477
01:05:04.005 --> 01:05:06.185
I'm having to call us up, Hey, where's my application?

1478
01:05:06.245 --> 01:05:08.065
Hey, has it been reviewed at, Hey, what's the status?

1479
01:05:08.485 --> 01:05:10.225
You automatically get those emails now

1480
01:05:10.225 --> 01:05:11.865
and they actually have it to

1481
01:05:11.865 --> 01:05:13.825
where it is saved in their user profile.

1482
01:05:13.845 --> 01:05:15.225
So they can see applications

1483
01:05:15.485 --> 01:05:16.745
and they can see their current cases

1484
01:05:16.885 --> 01:05:18.085
and they can view where they're at

1485
01:05:18.105 --> 01:05:19.125
or they can edit ones

1486
01:05:19.125 --> 01:05:20.765
that they haven't finished submitting to us yet.

1487
01:05:20.865 --> 01:05:23.165
So that is gov built

1488
01:05:23.185 --> 01:05:25.525
and that is phase one of our implementation process.

1489
01:05:26.135 --> 01:05:27.525
Phase two's gonna be decompliance,

1490
01:05:27.545 --> 01:05:28.845
but residents won't know the difference

1491
01:05:28.845 --> 01:05:29.925
because that's all behind the scenes.

1492
01:05:29.925 --> 01:05:31.365
They'll just know that they sent an email

1493
01:05:31.365 --> 01:05:32.645
and it comes to us through them as well.

1494
01:05:34.235 --> 01:05:35.605
That, do you have any questions? I'm here.

1495
01:05:36.505 --> 01:05:39.765
So you mentioned the contractor could do this. Absolutely.

1496
01:05:39.765 --> 01:05:42.125
And I know we had, uh, Al

1497
01:05:42.125 --> 01:05:45.165
and Eyeglass in the contractor submitted and I saw it.

1498
01:05:45.395 --> 01:05:46.765
Okay, so I'm good with that.

1499
01:05:46.905 --> 01:05:49.645
So contractor comes up, he gets them a log on,

1500
01:05:50.105 --> 01:05:53.885
and then he puts my, my information in for the lot

1501
01:05:54.025 --> 01:05:55.965
and I have to give him a copy.

1502
01:05:56.165 --> 01:05:59.605
I mean, I didn't have to give my contractor a copy of my,

1503
01:05:59.705 --> 01:06:04.365
uh, tax to, to confirm that I own that thing.

1504
01:06:04.385 --> 01:06:06.605
So I'm just wondering how that works if a contractor

1505
01:06:06.605 --> 01:06:07.645
does this electronically.

1506
01:06:07.645 --> 01:06:08.765
Contractors are working with the

1507
01:06:08.765 --> 01:06:09.845
homeowners when they do that.

1508
01:06:10.265 --> 01:06:13.205
Um, if a contractor is providing the services for them,

1509
01:06:13.205 --> 01:06:14.285
they're typically in the office

1510
01:06:14.345 --> 01:06:16.165
and they're saying, Hey, can you just provide the upload?

1511
01:06:16.165 --> 01:06:18.845
And they upload it and it goes in, again, it goes into

1512
01:06:18.845 --> 01:06:20.085
where they're both the homeowner

1513
01:06:20.185 --> 01:06:22.005
and the contractor receive the same emails

1514
01:06:22.005 --> 01:06:23.325
with the supporting documents.

1515
01:06:23.945 --> 01:06:25.445
So all the information is there.

1516
01:06:25.445 --> 01:06:27.525
And then when we upload the applications, it's there

1517
01:06:27.525 --> 01:06:29.365
for the Architecture Review Committee to see

1518
01:06:29.365 --> 01:06:31.605
and also the hearing officer to see, to prove that yes,

1519
01:06:31.605 --> 01:06:34.485
you are the homeowner, some renters not providing, you know,

1520
01:06:34.545 --> 01:06:36.085
trying to change something on your house

1521
01:06:36.085 --> 01:06:37.445
and then see, you know, the site plan

1522
01:06:37.445 --> 01:06:38.805
and everything else that goes with the project.

1523
01:06:44.905 --> 01:06:47.015
Other questions? Thank you.

1524
01:06:47.715 --> 01:06:50.335
And I do have one other item just leading into Mr.

1525
01:06:50.925 --> 01:06:54.935
Brian's report and that, um, as you may be aware, we, um,

1526
01:06:55.005 --> 01:06:56.215
fall under the purview

1527
01:06:56.215 --> 01:06:58.255
of the Southwest Florida Water Management District,

1528
01:06:58.715 --> 01:07:01.775
and they have recently put us under a phase two water

1529
01:07:02.135 --> 01:07:05.655
shortage, um, order, which will result in different, um,

1530
01:07:05.655 --> 01:07:07.015
impacts to our residents.

1531
01:07:07.795 --> 01:07:10.935
The district has taken the information from Swift Mud

1532
01:07:11.155 --> 01:07:12.495
and is providing it out.

1533
01:07:12.995 --> 01:07:17.175
Um, any, everything ranging from a 5% surcharge on the

1534
01:07:17.175 --> 01:07:19.535
utility bills to help encourage, um,

1535
01:07:20.675 --> 01:07:25.295
not wasteful usage of water, uh, to modified watering days.

1536
01:07:25.955 --> 01:07:28.215
We are placing that information has already been

1537
01:07:28.375 --> 01:07:29.655
on district gov.org.

1538
01:07:29.795 --> 01:07:31.575
Um, it is also being printed

1539
01:07:31.675 --> 01:07:34.295
and put on all of the postal station bulletin boards

1540
01:07:34.295 --> 01:07:36.335
throughout the community to help get residents,

1541
01:07:36.355 --> 01:07:37.455
um, familiar with that.

1542
01:07:38.195 --> 01:07:40.695
It is also an impact to decompliance

1543
01:07:40.995 --> 01:07:42.055
and as, um,

1544
01:07:42.395 --> 01:07:45.015
you don't have de compliance under your purview yet.

1545
01:07:45.015 --> 01:07:46.895
We did want you to know, um,

1546
01:07:47.085 --> 01:07:49.135
that there has been some modifications that Mr.

1547
01:07:49.165 --> 01:07:51.495
Brianis will go through, um, as far

1548
01:07:51.495 --> 01:07:53.375
as deed compliance within District 13

1549
01:07:53.555 --> 01:07:55.135
as it pertains to this water shortage.

1550
01:07:58.825 --> 01:08:01.135
Sorry. Yeah.

1551
01:08:01.135 --> 01:08:05.095
Need to, um, so essentially this, uh, plan

1552
01:08:05.095 --> 01:08:07.775
that was created was, um, pursuant to the, um,

1553
01:08:08.305 --> 01:08:09.855
water restrictions that were enacted

1554
01:08:09.855 --> 01:08:12.295
that became effective yesterday, February 8th.

1555
01:08:12.875 --> 01:08:14.935
And what it says, essentially, for purposes of

1556
01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:16.580
of deed compliance is that they will,

1557
01:08:16.580 --> 01:08:19.005
there will be an abatement time period, um,

1558
01:08:19.015 --> 01:08:20.565
where if a case is brought

1559
01:08:20.565 --> 01:08:22.485
before the deed compliance hearing officer,

1560
01:08:22.745 --> 01:08:23.885
it probably won't be brought

1561
01:08:23.885 --> 01:08:25.565
before that the hearing officer actually,

1562
01:08:25.565 --> 01:08:27.245
because if it has to do with grass

1563
01:08:27.305 --> 01:08:29.925
or something to do with water restrictions, um,

1564
01:08:29.925 --> 01:08:32.245
community standards is not gonna proceed with that case

1565
01:08:32.375 --> 01:08:35.285
until, um, the order is lifted.

1566
01:08:35.945 --> 01:08:38.685
Um, or the expiration date that's listed on that as well.

1567
01:08:44.125 --> 01:08:48.445
Questions, and again, that only be affected by, again,

1568
01:08:48.825 --> 01:08:50.565
issues with grass, um,

1569
01:08:50.565 --> 01:08:52.685
maybe some landscaping, things like that.

1570
01:08:52.705 --> 01:08:54.565
If it has anything to do with water restrictions

1571
01:08:54.565 --> 01:08:57.725
and the ability of a property owner to use the water, um,

1572
01:08:57.785 --> 01:09:00.365
to rectify the deed compliance issue, uh,

1573
01:09:00.435 --> 01:09:03.085
then deed compliance will not proceed with that case until,

1574
01:09:03.085 --> 01:09:06.285
again, this is lifted or until the date expires.

1575
01:09:09.995 --> 01:09:12.655
As I shared with Ms. Duckett, my concern is that

1576
01:09:13.355 --> 01:09:16.175
people don't read the, they don't get the district bulletin,

1577
01:09:16.175 --> 01:09:17.215
so they haven't read it there.

1578
01:09:17.365 --> 01:09:19.455
They may have caught it in Saturday's paper,

1579
01:09:20.235 --> 01:09:22.975
may not have may, I mean, I get the paper and didn't see it.

1580
01:09:22.995 --> 01:09:27.295
But, um, I just, I'm kind of concerned about the amount

1581
01:09:27.295 --> 01:09:29.775
of communication going to our residents about this.

1582
01:09:29.835 --> 01:09:33.055
And I know this is not a district enforced,

1583
01:09:33.165 --> 01:09:36.055
this is not the district, this is not anything, you know,

1584
01:09:36.055 --> 01:09:38.375
this is part of, of swift say

1585
01:09:39.145 --> 01:09:41.055
Swift mud, swift mud.

1586
01:09:41.235 --> 01:09:42.735
So, um, you know,

1587
01:09:42.795 --> 01:09:47.295
but, uh, still, I don't believe a 5% surcharge is going

1588
01:09:47.315 --> 01:09:51.815
to change behavior if we're truly wanting our residents

1589
01:09:51.915 --> 01:09:53.935
to adhere to the one day a week.

1590
01:09:54.755 --> 01:09:58.295
Um, the residents that I've talked to, my friends,

1591
01:09:58.515 --> 01:09:59.535
no one's even heard of it.

1592
01:09:59.595 --> 01:10:01.055
You know, they haven't seen it in the

1593
01:10:01.055 --> 01:10:02.135
paper, they haven't seen that.

1594
01:10:02.275 --> 01:10:06.655
So I am kind of concerned just for information

1595
01:10:06.675 --> 01:10:07.775
for the rest of the board.

1596
01:10:08.165 --> 01:10:10.615
Mike talked to Peter Russell this morning

1597
01:10:10.715 --> 01:10:14.295
and he's gonna have something put out through the VHA trying

1598
01:10:14.395 --> 01:10:17.615
to, to provide some more information about this and,

1599
01:10:17.995 --> 01:10:20.575
and what, you know, the watering restriction days are.

1600
01:10:20.595 --> 01:10:22.175
And, and even, and the information

1601
01:10:22.175 --> 01:10:24.575
that we received talks about, you know, whether

1602
01:10:24.575 --> 01:10:27.175
or not, I guess you could pressure wash your house if you're

1603
01:10:27.175 --> 01:10:30.575
having it, if you're having it painted, there's nothing

1604
01:10:30.595 --> 01:10:32.175
that's gonna stop you from doing it.

1605
01:10:32.205 --> 01:10:34.655
They're just saying you don't, you're not gonna get a deed,

1606
01:10:35.255 --> 01:10:36.255
I believe. Well,

1607
01:10:36.255 --> 01:10:38.695
so the, there are other restrictions.

1608
01:10:39.035 --> 01:10:42.935
The shortage provides that HOAs

1609
01:10:43.115 --> 01:10:47.095
or other entities cannot enforce deed restrictions

1610
01:10:47.095 --> 01:10:48.535
that require water usage.

1611
01:10:48.995 --> 01:10:51.895
So we cannot require somebody to pressure wash their home.

1612
01:10:51.895 --> 01:10:55.415
Right now, I believe what the shortage says as far

1613
01:10:55.415 --> 01:10:57.135
as pressure washing is that you're allowed

1614
01:10:57.135 --> 01:10:58.295
to one time per year

1615
01:10:59.435 --> 01:11:02.055
and you're also allowed to, if you are preparing

1616
01:11:02.075 --> 01:11:03.615
for something like a paint

1617
01:11:03.795 --> 01:11:05.935
or another project that requires it.

1618
01:11:06.355 --> 01:11:10.055
Um, but it does, there are some workarounds for homeowners.

1619
01:11:10.055 --> 01:11:12.135
For example, if you have planted something,

1620
01:11:12.475 --> 01:11:16.605
you can manually mow your, or manually, um, water your lawn.

1621
01:11:16.835 --> 01:11:18.125
What you can't do is turn on your

1622
01:11:18.125 --> 01:11:19.765
irrigation multiple times a week.

1623
01:11:20.145 --> 01:11:23.085
Um, I did verify, based on our conversation, um,

1624
01:11:23.345 --> 01:11:27.205
we do accept, um, complaints from residents

1625
01:11:27.225 --> 01:11:30.885
who have concerns that one of their neighbors is not

1626
01:11:31.405 --> 01:11:33.245
adhering to the water restrictions.

1627
01:11:33.245 --> 01:11:36.845
Community watch also has the ability to, um, notify.

1628
01:11:36.985 --> 01:11:38.805
And what they will do is notify Swift Mud.

1629
01:11:39.145 --> 01:11:41.405
So if there is non-compliance by homeowners,

1630
01:11:41.405 --> 01:11:43.045
then it would be reported to Swift Mud.

1631
01:11:44.745 --> 01:11:48.005
So is with, with the exception of, um,

1632
01:11:49.055 --> 01:11:52.485
power washing and surface cleaning,

1633
01:11:53.115 --> 01:11:55.005
this is just your lawn watering?

1634
01:11:55.005 --> 01:11:56.005
Correct.

1635
01:11:56.305 --> 01:11:58.485
The phase two water shortage goes

1636
01:11:58.555 --> 01:12:00.165
into a lot of information.

1637
01:12:00.445 --> 01:12:01.805
I would recommend that you go

1638
01:12:01.805 --> 01:12:04.085
and actually Swift Mud put out FAQs.

1639
01:12:04.545 --> 01:12:07.605
Um, if you go to the district's website, we link to it.

1640
01:12:07.715 --> 01:12:10.845
It's also, I believe it's water matters.org.

1641
01:12:11.345 --> 01:12:14.045
Um, but they, all of the information, um,

1642
01:12:14.195 --> 01:12:17.205
from Southwest Florida Water Management District as far as

1643
01:12:17.835 --> 01:12:19.005
Lawn Water Inc.

1644
01:12:19.225 --> 01:12:20.885
Um, what you can

1645
01:12:20.885 --> 01:12:23.845
and can't do with, with water in general related

1646
01:12:23.845 --> 01:12:25.805
to this water shortage is all on their website.

1647
01:12:26.195 --> 01:12:27.965
What I'm talking about potable water.

1648
01:12:28.915 --> 01:12:30.885
Well, they say don't wash a load of laundry

1649
01:12:30.885 --> 01:12:32.045
unless it's a full load.

1650
01:12:32.195 --> 01:12:33.965
Because my, that's What's in there.

1651
01:12:35.945 --> 01:12:39.165
My concern is because I, I have fish that I use

1652
01:12:40.255 --> 01:12:41.765
quite a bit of water every two weeks.

1653
01:12:42.485 --> 01:12:43.735
I mean, they monitoring

1654
01:12:43.955 --> 01:12:46.895
how much water you use for potable water,

1655
01:12:47.285 --> 01:12:49.255
They're, they're not monitoring anything.

1656
01:12:49.255 --> 01:12:52.055
You're going to be getting a surcharge of 5% onto

1657
01:12:52.125 --> 01:12:53.975
that usage, encouraging you

1658
01:12:53.995 --> 01:12:56.735
to conserve water. But I mean, so

1659
01:12:56.895 --> 01:12:58.175
Regardless of how much water you use,

1660
01:12:58.175 --> 01:12:59.775
you're gonna get a 5% surcharge.

1661
01:12:59.915 --> 01:13:04.635
Yes. Well, they're, they're figuring to less use the,

1662
01:13:04.735 --> 01:13:05.915
the smaller the surcharge.

1663
01:13:06.975 --> 01:13:09.195
But I, as expensive as our water is,

1664
01:13:09.315 --> 01:13:13.755
I don't think five percent's gonna affect behavior.

1665
01:13:13.755 --> 01:13:18.595
Well, 5% is $2,000 worth. Exactly. That's not

1666
01:13:18.595 --> 01:13:19.595
A very hard decision. No,

1667
01:13:19.595 --> 01:13:20.435
that's not a hard decision.

1668
01:13:20.505 --> 01:13:23.675
Yeah, but I just, I I I'm more, I'm concerned

1669
01:13:23.675 --> 01:13:27.275
that our residents don't, haven't seen this information

1670
01:13:27.295 --> 01:13:30.435
and don't understand, and it, and it started yesterday,

1671
01:13:30.905 --> 01:13:32.715
When they get the surcharges, they'll understand.

1672
01:13:32.975 --> 01:13:36.555
Yep. And it actually does, I have it pulled up now.

1673
01:13:36.615 --> 01:13:39.315
It actually, it discusses aesthetic fountain use

1674
01:13:39.615 --> 01:13:42.315
and, um, they do provide excess exemptions

1675
01:13:42.535 --> 01:13:44.075
for things such as quay ponds.

1676
01:13:44.615 --> 01:13:47.915
So you, it, the full information is attached to their rule,

1677
01:13:47.915 --> 01:13:48.915
which is on their website,

1678
01:13:48.975 --> 01:13:51.275
but they go into pretty good detail.

1679
01:13:51.585 --> 01:13:52.585
I'll hold That. Thank you.

1680
01:13:52.585 --> 01:13:54.155
Yes, sir. So I didn't read that.

1681
01:13:54.255 --> 01:13:55.875
So we need to turn our fountains off too.

1682
01:13:56.215 --> 01:13:58.675
It says it is limited to eight hours a day. Oh, okay.

1683
01:13:58.675 --> 01:14:01.875
I did read that. I do remember that now. Okay.

1684
01:14:06.475 --> 01:14:09.325
Okay. Um, supervisor comments.

1685
01:14:09.965 --> 01:14:11.645
Kerrigan, you want to go for cac?

1686
01:14:12.145 --> 01:14:14.885
So there's, there were two items of discussion.

1687
01:14:16.145 --> 01:14:19.685
Um, the continuous golf cart pass on Sandhill number five,

1688
01:14:19.795 --> 01:14:21.885
long number three, lowland number two,

1689
01:14:21.885 --> 01:14:23.765
there was a lot of discussion on that.

1690
01:14:24.435 --> 01:14:26.045
It's $201,000.

1691
01:14:26.665 --> 01:14:30.125
Um, My, myself

1692
01:14:30.225 --> 01:14:33.405
and District 12 supervisors did not approve it,

1693
01:14:33.405 --> 01:14:36.205
however, the other supervisors did.

1694
01:14:36.265 --> 01:14:38.005
So they're gonna go ahead and put those in.

1695
01:14:39.225 --> 01:14:41.765
Um, the other one was the Lake Sumter Landing.

1696
01:14:42.345 --> 01:14:44.005
Um, aquatic leak control.

1697
01:14:44.785 --> 01:14:49.005
Um, some people don't like the lilies in the, in the lake,

1698
01:14:49.675 --> 01:14:51.495
and some people don't like to tall grass.

1699
01:14:51.915 --> 01:14:53.535
And supposedly they were saying

1700
01:14:53.535 --> 01:14:56.375
that when they play golf there, that it looks awful

1701
01:14:56.515 --> 01:14:59.615
to have natural the water.

1702
01:15:00.555 --> 01:15:04.095
Um, our, our chairman did a smart thing

1703
01:15:04.095 --> 01:15:07.915
and we submitted it to the championship golf committee,

1704
01:15:07.915 --> 01:15:11.555
whoever they are, whoever runs championship golf to say,

1705
01:15:11.615 --> 01:15:13.075
Hey, is this a eyesore?

1706
01:15:13.075 --> 01:15:14.875
And if it is, what are you gonna do about it?

1707
01:15:15.455 --> 01:15:20.275
Um, I, I can't see taking natural woolly pads

1708
01:15:20.415 --> 01:15:22.515
out because people don't like the way they look.

1709
01:15:23.175 --> 01:15:26.635
Um, I can understand the, the, the weeds, the grass.

1710
01:15:26.785 --> 01:15:28.715
It's called grass that had pictures of it.

1711
01:15:29.745 --> 01:15:32.325
It doesn't, I again,

1712
01:15:32.325 --> 01:15:34.485
like natural stuff going all over the place,

1713
01:15:34.735 --> 01:15:36.445
don't really care that it's a problem.

1714
01:15:37.145 --> 01:15:41.045
So we deferred that. We'll see what, what happens that it,

1715
01:15:41.045 --> 01:15:42.325
it isn't really expensive,

1716
01:15:42.345 --> 01:15:45.485
but it's the point of if it is a preserve, it,

1717
01:15:45.555 --> 01:15:47.365
it's not a question because we can't go in

1718
01:15:47.365 --> 01:15:48.565
and rip stuff out of preserve.

1719
01:15:49.025 --> 01:15:50.485
You know, those aren't touchable.

1720
01:15:50.965 --> 01:15:53.205
I don't know how many other places are like this,

1721
01:15:53.265 --> 01:15:55.085
but it's one of those things that keeps coming up.

1722
01:15:55.085 --> 01:15:57.805
Especially the, you know, somebody wants this

1723
01:15:58.145 --> 01:15:59.485
and then somebody said, oh, they got this,

1724
01:15:59.505 --> 01:16:00.605
so now somebody wants that,

1725
01:16:00.665 --> 01:16:02.045
and then somebody wants this and that.

1726
01:16:02.305 --> 01:16:04.805
And, um, we're trying to curb that.

1727
01:16:05.235 --> 01:16:07.785
What you possible that, that's all I have.

1728
01:16:10.245 --> 01:16:12.915
Supervisor Kraus, nothing. Any comment? No.

1729
01:16:14.045 --> 01:16:16.435
Donna, I have nothing. I have nothing else

1730
01:16:16.435 --> 01:16:17.755
that I haven't already said today.

1731
01:16:18.375 --> 01:16:20.195
So Can I have a motion to adjourn?

1732
01:16:20.415 --> 01:16:23.155
I'd like to make a motion to adjourn. Okay. I'll approve.

1733
01:16:23.815 --> 01:16:25.315
Aye aye. Motion.