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In the May 6th meeting, please,

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everybody stand.

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First, let me do a roll call. I'm sorry.

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All

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supervisors are here?

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No. No, we're not. No, we don't. We got- No.

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Where is he? He's due here, right?

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Yeah.

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Ah. Well, he's not here yet. Mr. Klinko is not here,

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so we got four supervisors out of five. Okay. Sorry about that.

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Can we-

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We're running on the budget.

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Yeah. Can we

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all stand, do the Pledge of Allegiance, and after the Pledge of Allegiance, please,

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a moment of silence for all the soldiers we lost and brave soldiers that

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protect our country. I pledge allegiance-

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To the flag of the United States of America, and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation, under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Please be seated.

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Okay, I want to welcome... Oh, nice attendees.

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I appreciate you coming. Any attendees have any item that's not

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on any subject or item that's not on the

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agenda, please come up and speak. Anybody? Anything? Anybody want to say anything?

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Seeing none, we'll move on.

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Let's go to law enforcement's quarterly update.

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Hello. Good morning.

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Good morning.

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My name's Sergeant Adam Dodge with the Sumter County Sheriff's Office.

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I'm here to provide you with the quarterly law enforcement update.

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We regularly attend and provide updates on motor vehicle crashes and

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citations, with golf cart crashes and citations.

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And I would like to also share with you an update on a recent criminal case here

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within the community.

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Over the first quarter of the year, from January to April, the Sumter County

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Sheriff's Office responded to 362, or worked

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362 automobile crashes. We also issued

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1,465 motor vehicle citations, which is

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a higher than normal number for a quarter.

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For golf carts, we responded to 44 golf cart crashes

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and issued 50 golf cart

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citations over that quarter. So obviously, the sheriff takes our

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traffic enforcement very seriously.

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We've been very present on

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Buena Vista, Morse Boulevard, looking to impact driving

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behavior. We typically see a 50/50 ratio between

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warnings and citations. That ratio has been

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slightly, I don't want to say skewed, but higher-end citations.

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Our traffic enforcement units, they're out there to really impact driving behavior,

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and unfortunately, citations is the best way to make that happen.

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We've had positive feedback about the increased presence on those roadways.

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People are glad to see us. Some people are less glad to see us, especially when we

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have a chance to chat with them

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and prevent whatever it is they're off to go do.

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But it's been a positive. I'd like to share with you an update on a recent

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criminal case here in the area. There were utility box

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burglaries at postal stations, if you're not aware.

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The sheriff's office was investigating those cases, and we have since made an

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arrest. We now are working to confirm that there's not additional crimes

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associated with that individual or what he accessed within

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those boxes. But I did want to share with you that an arrest has been

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made in that case.

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All the information I have for you this morning, unless you would like to know

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about our golf tournament, which is coming up.

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If you've not already signed up or registered, I'd encourage you... Oh, no.

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What's our tee time? Nine-

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9:40 something.

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Nine something like that.

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Early. Good. All right.

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Yeah.

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If you've got a tee time before noon, you're a special person.

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You're an important guy.

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According to Theresa, the people making the donations took

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just about all the tee times.

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We are blessed to have the support that we do, certainly.

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Great support.

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Absolutely.

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Oh. Question.

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Yes, sir.

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I don't know if you've read today's paper yet, but there's an article on

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summonses and

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streets where the most accidents are. They had the five top ones.

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I don't know if you read that yet.

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I have not. I will look.

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Yeah. It's in today's paper, and the top one was Morse and 466A.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah, and then-

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Oh, Colony Boulevard

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... yeah, and Colony Boulevard.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. But it's a nice article on the same subject you're speaking about.

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Excellent.

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Yeah.

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I'll check it out.

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Any of the other supervisors got any questions?

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Just thanks for what you do.

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I appreciate that very much.

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Yeah, thank you very much.

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We appreciate it. Thank you for your time.

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Yeah, you bet. Thanks.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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You're going out the other way. Come back anytime.

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I'm a coworker.

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Yeah. Consent agenda. Okay, we got three items.

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Consent agenda, the motion to approve a consent agenda is a motion to approve

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all recommended actions. All matters on the consent agenda are

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considered routine, and no discussion is required unless desired

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by board supervisors or member of the public.

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Three items are approval of minutes, project-wide monthly invoice,

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and request to

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advertise alternate architect review committee,

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ARC, member position.

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Motion.

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Any questions on any one of the three items, supervisors?

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Motion to approve. Second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed? Motion passed.

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New business.

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The budget. Oh.

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Ms. Clary is going to present the budget.

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How come she gets the charts, sure?

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Good morning. I'm going to do my best.

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I woke up with very little voice today, so I apologize in advance.

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I hope you can hear me okay.

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Good morning. Karen Clary, assistant budget director.

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Today, we're going to walk through your recommended fiscal year '26-'27

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budget for District 7. The goal is to give you a clear picture on where we

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stand financially, what's driving changes in revenue and expenditures, and the

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options available to maintain long-term financial stability.

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We'll begin with revenue. For fiscal year '26-'27, total

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operating revenue increases slightly, up about 1% or

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$17,110. The primary driver

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behind this is the 5% increase in maintenance assessments, which brings in

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an additional

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$132,810However, this is

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offset in part by a significant decline in interest in miscellaneous revenue,

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down 54% or $115,000 due to

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lower projected interest earnings and reimbursements.

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Below operating revenue, we'll see changes in how we use reserves for fiscal year

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26-27. Your working capital shifts from a use of

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$167,541

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to an addition of $143,364

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for fiscal year 26-27.

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Roads reserves and capital projects phase one both show new planned uses to

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support upcoming infrastructure needs.

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And overall, total revenue increases 20% or

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$622,892, largely due to

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capital project funding.

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Looking at the appropriations pie chart for fiscal year 26-27,

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this gives us a visual breakdown on where District 7's dollars are spent.

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As you can see, the largest portion of your budget continues to be your

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project-wide fees, which make up just under half of your total appropriations

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at $1.8 million. This reflects our shared

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responsibility for infrastructure and amenities that benefit the entire community.

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The next major category is your repairs and maintenance at

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$493,000. This includes ongoing upkeep

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of landscaping, irrigation, lighting, and other district-maintained assets.

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This category increases about 18% this year, driven

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largely by villa lighting replacements and scheduled maintenance projects.

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Utilities represent another significant portion of your expenses at

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$425,478. This

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category actually decreases by 16%, thanks to lower

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electricity usage based on actuals through March of 2026.

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Professional services remain stable at just under

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$350,000, covering contracts such as engineering,

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auditing, legal, and other specialized services.

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We also have capital projects totaling

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$591,992 this year.

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This is a major driver of the overall budget increase and reflects the Villa Mill

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and Overlay project scheduled in your CIP.

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Finally, personnel and operating costs

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remain the smallest portion of the budget at

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$29,994, representing basic administrative and

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operational expenses. Overall, this chart helps illustrate how the

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majority of your spending is tied to infrastructure, maintenance, and shared

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community assets, areas that do directly impact residents' daily

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experience.

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On the expenditure side, total appropriations also increased by 20%,

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balancing the revenue increase. The largest change is the addition of

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$591,992 in capital projects,

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specifically that Villa Mill and Overway work that we discussed previously.

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We also see increases in repairs and maintenance and project-wide fees, while

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utilities decrease based on actual usage trends.

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Some of the major drivers behind these changes include electricity being down

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$86,461 based on actual usage,

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building and structure maintenance increasing

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67% or $54,000

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due to villa lighting replacement projects in Grovewood,

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Kenya, Pilar, and Seneca Villas. Landscape maintenance

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increases 5% due to contract renewal.

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Project-wide fees increase 2%, consistent across all numbered districts,

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and infrastructure increases $592,000 for mill and overlay

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projects in Bainbridge, Bonita, Grovewood, and Hillcrest Villas.

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District 7's share of the project-wide cost is based on assessable acreage,

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the same methodology used for maintenance and bond assessments.

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Your allocation for fiscal year 26-27 is

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$1,802,101, or an

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increase of 2%, and your assessable acreage remains unchanged

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at 917.72 acres.

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This 2% increase is driven by the project-wide capital improvement plan, which

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includes fencing, multimodal path mill and overlay, pump station

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work, and entry feature repainting.

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The project-wide CIP increases from 1.05 million

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this year to 1.77 million in fiscal year

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26-27 before moderating in later years.

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The majority of fiscal year 26-27 expenditures are attributable to

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fence replacement projects, multimodal path mill and overlay, and the

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repainting of entry features.

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Looking ahead, the five-year revenue forecast shows steady operating revenues, with

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maintenance assessments increasing in fiscal year 25-26 and

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27-28 by 5%.

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After that, assessments remain flat in the projection, which means future increases

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in expenditures would rely more heavily on reserve usage

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unless additional rate adjustments are made.

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Utilization of working capital and reserve funds fluctuates annually based on

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planned capital and major maintenance projects.

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On the five-year appropriation side, we see moderate increases across most

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categories, particularly utilities and repairs and maintenance.

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Project-wide fees continue to rise a gradual 2% each year,

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reflecting inflation, contract renewals, and CIP needs.

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Capital projects appear only in fiscal year 26-27, consistent with

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your current CIP schedule.

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This very brief slide summarizes your five-year CIP for District

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7. The only major CIP item in the next five years is the fiscal year

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26-27 roads mill and overlay project, totaling

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$592,000. Other categories, wall painting

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and fence replacement, have no planned expenditures for this period.

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Looking at some of your maintenance assessment options, because working capital has

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been used to balance the budget for several years and because project-wide fees do

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continue to rise, the fund balance is projected to decline without action.

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Staff has prepared the following three options for your

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consideration.Option one proposes 5%

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increases in fiscal year '26-'27 and fiscal year

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'27-'28. This has about a $30 per household

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effect to residents in fiscal year '26-'27.

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However, your fund balance still falls below the target reserve minimum in

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'30-'31 with this option.

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Option two proposes 3% increases in fiscal year

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'26-'27 and fiscal year '27-'28, followed by

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5% increases in fiscal year '28-'29 and '29-'30,

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and a 4% increase in fiscal year '30-'31.

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The average annual household increase for

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'26-'27 is $18 with this option.

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Option three includes a 5% increase in fiscal year '26-'27

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and 3% increases beginning in fiscal year '27-'28 through

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fiscal year '30-'31.

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Each option affects the long-term reserve levels differently, which we'll see in

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the following slides. These slides show how each assessment option impacts working

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capital and reserve balances, your target reserve policy, and the overall

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health of your fund balances over the next five years.

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Keep in mind, the district's policy requires maintaining reserves equal to

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35% of revenues plus four months of operating

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expenses. Under all three options, reserves decline over time.

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The question is how quickly, and whether they remain above that target threshold.

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Looking at option one, your overall fund balance at the end of fiscal year

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'30-'31 is projected to be around $1.9

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million. This includes annual spending in your general and road

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reserve funds, as well as utilization of working

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capital. Consistent across all options, there is

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spending from your restricted capital project revenues of approximately

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$812,000 in fiscal year '26-'27,

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leaving a balance in this fund of $335,110

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through fiscal year '30-'31.

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As you can see, based on current projections, option one causes you to fall

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below your target policy reserve minimum in fiscal year

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'30-'31.

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And looking at the fund balance forecast, expenditures outpace revenues annually

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under this option, with your fund balance steadily declining through that fifth

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fiscal year.

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Moving on to option two, additional maintenance assessment increases in the out

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years bring your overall fund balance to

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$2,271,446,

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or an increase of about $350,000 in comparison to option

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one.

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As previously stated, there is approximately $812,000 in

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spending from your restricted reserve, keeping that balance at

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$335,000 annually through fiscal year '30-'31.

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In this scenario, your target policy is met every year based on

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the target minimum of 35% of revenues and four months of annual operating

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expenses. By the end of fiscal year '30-'31, your fund balance

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exceeds the target minimum by approximately $15,000.

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You can see, based on this option, the fund balance forecast changes

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significantly with the implementation of option two.

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Revenues increase annually and balance to expenditures by fiscal year

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'30-'31, and the decline of your overall unrestricted fund balance is less

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significant than we saw with the previous option.

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Finally, we have option three, also increases your fund balance over the five-year

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period, though not quite to the level of option two.

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At the end of fiscal year '30-'31, your fund balance is projected to be

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$2,228,088 based on this

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option. Your restricted capital reserves remain

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unchanged from options one and two.

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Electing option three also keeps you in compliance with your target reserve

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policy, though your additional reserves above the target minimum are lower than

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with option two. Looking at this final fund balance

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forecast illustrating option three, we see revenues do not quite meet

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expenditures still, even in that fifth year, and your unrestricted fund

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balance decreases more quickly than it does with our second option.

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Reviewing some of your recent board decisions surrounding District 7's maintenance

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assessments in fiscal year '23-'24 and

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fiscal year '24-'25, staff

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recommended increases. 35% over three

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years was recommended in fiscal year '23-'24, and a

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15% increase was recommended in fiscal year

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'24-'25, but at that time, the board showed no change.

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In fiscal year '25-'26, the board approved a 20% increase with

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planned 5% increases in fiscal years '26-'27

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and '27-'28. We just wanted to show you this as these past decisions

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do influence where we are today with our balance trajectory.

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While it may not seem like much, each 1% increase in maintenance assessment

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generates an additional $26,562

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in revenue, or $553 in additional tax collector

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fees, and roughly $5,000 in other related expenses.

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However, the annual impact is only around $6 per household for each

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1% increase. We just wanted to present this information to help

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quantify the impact of any rate changes that may be voted on.

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At this time, we're requesting the board give staff direction for your maintenance

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assessments, even if that direction is to keep with what

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we have at the 5%. Please keep in mind that when you adopt your

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proposed budget next month in June, no further increases can be made at that

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time. That preliminary approval will include the

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maximum your assessments can be set at, though you can decide on a lower rate at

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that time. We currently do have that 5% increase built

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into fiscal year '26-'27 based on last year's direction, and

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I open it up for your discussion.

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Okay. Supervisors, I'll start it off, and obviously, I'm open to any

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opinions, obviously.

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Option two sounds to me to be the best at this point.

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Obviously, we could decide if you want to make it higher just in case,

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but I'm just saying option two because I think it's very important that our

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projected balance doesn't fall below the target

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minimumAll right. And it seems like the best option is

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option two. We don't fall, and I'm not even happy

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about that, even with option two, our minimum is above

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our target, but it's not a lot above our target

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which is I don't feel comfortable because it seems like every year

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everything goes up. That's the way

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our government works. We have a cost of living built-in

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way we do finances, but I personally think,

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without raising it, of course, I know we can't

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lower it at this point. We're going to have to pick a rate.

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If you want to go like last year, we had an option to go 15,

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I think it was 15, 10 and 5, and with total for 30

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and we went with 20. And we kept it at 20 because we figured

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we wanted a little cushion, and it was a good idea.

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Even though 20 was a pretty big hit, especially when last year we had the fire

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assessment go up. And I remember people meeting me in the mailbox between

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our assessment and the fire assessment, people's monthly fee went up

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100 and something dollars, and they thought it was because of us.

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They didn't realize the fire assessment was in with the maintenance.

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That comes in your yearly bill, obviously, as everybody knows.

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So it was a little confusing last year.

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This year, obviously, hopefully, we won't have that problem.

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But I think

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option two may be a good idea. Supervisors?

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Judy Ann?

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I like option two, except what I would do with option two is I would

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stay with 5% for '26, '27 because people have

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already

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thought that that's coming. So that gives us that just a little bit more

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cushion. And then every year, they can see that there'll be a

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few percent.

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But if for some reason inflation goes down,

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we buy a lottery ticket and win-

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Good cushion

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... we can make those changes. But I think it's very critical,

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having seen the slide, we're not doing anything,

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has put us in a position last year to do 20%.

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So if we can keep it minimal, they can budget for it,

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then I think we put ourselves in a better position.

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So I would like option two, but for '26, '27, stay with

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5%.

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You read my mind. Steve?

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I have no problem with that. I would like to know what we are doing to reduce

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costs.

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Well, that's my next question.

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Beat you to it. What are we doing to reduce costs in this budget?

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So,

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from a cost perspective, almost everything that you do is contractually

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driven, and we do competitively solicit all

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services.

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And really that's where you're seeing,

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even on the project-wide side with...

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And luckily that has stabilized, that you,

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Ms. Cleary and Ms. Cook and the budget team have projected out multi-year

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because we have long-term contracts in place now that you know

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what your cost exposure is because that's primarily

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contractually driven.

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So we do go through the process. We do look for

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efficiencies, but when we competitively solicit those

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services

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and award them, those are your contract rates and that

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really is what is driving the budget development.

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Even when we look at electricity, that's a

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contractual element, so we are basing that off of contract

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rates.

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Nina, that, and the same time, very good point.

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Our purview is really very limited when it comes to budgeting and trying to

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reduce costs. I think the only avenue, and let me know if I'm right or wrong about

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this, Brittany, is the capital budget.

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I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that's probably the only place you really

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could try to reduce costs. Am I correct about that?

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And I'll defer to Ms. Cleary.

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I do believe there are a couple of districts that have at times looked

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to

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defer some of their capital improvement projects.

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You do have a risk associated with that though because unfortunately we're

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not seeing, especially with oil, petroleum prices, when you

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look at road mill and overlay projects-

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Petroleum

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... I don't know that we would forecast expenses would go down if we bid those

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out in out years versus

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current year.

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And Brittany is right about that. I will say too that we have

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been going out this year with DPM folks

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and if something is on the docket to be done, it's being

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reviewed before we just say it's in the budget, we're going to do it.

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We're making sure that it needs to be done, that we can't put those

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off. And internally, some of the things we can control are

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management fees we actually have decreased.

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Yeah.

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So we're trying to work with you on those aspects as well.

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You know it's eye-catching and you know it that we had no capital budget last

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year. I think we had none and all of a sudden we went up to

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560,000. That was some climb and

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that's

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the only way we could honestly, and I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying it

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looks like doing this for so many years.

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The only purview or leeway or authority we have

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is on the capital budget. We really can't cut anything else

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because everything like you said is through contracts.

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Ed?

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A couple of things, and I know this is not going to bail us out.

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What do we have pending that would come to us from FEMA with

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the hurricane? Is that

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money coming back? Do we have any anticipation as to when that might

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happen or how much it is for us?

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We're still working through that process.

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I can provide you the amount that has been submitted.

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Unfortunately, reimbursement through FEMA is not-

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It's huge

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... a quick process.

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Well, I know because we're probably what? Two years into it.

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What the last time was it, about three years or so it took?

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It took three years, yes.

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But yeah, I'd like to know roughly how much might be coming.

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I know it's not going to bail us out.

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By the time we get it back, we could probably all have coffee

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Yeah. That's probably true.

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I also

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think option two is probably

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the best solution. Like last year,

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I would caution and say, at least for this meeting,

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to at least

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put out 10%, just as a safety net

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in the event something changes between now and then-

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Yeah

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...

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with the intent in our minds that we would come back to option

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two with those percentages. But as a cap, I would like to

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propose the 10%, just as a safety net

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for us until we can vote on it next month.

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You're absolutely-

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And even next month, we can put a higher number in.

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It's not until September when we do the final vote that we'll just say-

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Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah.

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But if we do that, I really feel, I remember last year,

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and we just happened to go with 20%, but people, they don't

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know.

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They hear that.

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They think it's going to be 20 automatically, so

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hopefully we won't have to go up to 10%.

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No.

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Hopefully. So we do put the notice out,

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make sure we somehow state that

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in

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the slide.

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Yeah. Not to exceed.

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Yeah, not to exceed, because residents, they'll just see the 10% and think

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it's going to go up 10% no matter what.

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And our communications-

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Yeah

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... do stipulate that, that that is the maximum.

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Yeah.

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We've also been trying to, internally, when we have calls come in through

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customer service or our department, we have that household average,

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so with your figures, what we're looking at, even at 10%, the household average

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would be $60 annually. So, we do have that information on

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hand, and we would gladly provide that to you as well if that would be helpful.

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Yeah. And I just don't think that our

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expenses are going to go down. They're pretty well-fixed.

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Yeah.

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With the contracts and such, we're not going to

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see-

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No

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... anytime all of a sudden our expenses drop by

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10%. It's not going to happen, unfortunately.

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No, it's tough. A lot of residents don't understand that our

501
00:26:38.432 --> 00:26:42.152
purview or what we're allowed to do is

502
00:26:42.212 --> 00:26:43.232
very limited.

503
00:26:44.172 --> 00:26:47.852
We're not like regular government, we could do away, move money

504
00:26:47.912 --> 00:26:51.272
around. We can't do that, and it's hard to explain that to

505
00:26:51.492 --> 00:26:51.912
residents.

506
00:26:52.172 --> 00:26:54.452
And even under Project Y,

507
00:26:55.252 --> 00:26:59.052
2% every year, that amount-

508
00:26:59.122 --> 00:26:59.222
It's a big change

509
00:26:59.222 --> 00:27:00.792
... annually keeps increasing.

510
00:27:00.832 --> 00:27:01.052
Yeah.

511
00:27:01.082 --> 00:27:04.962
The dollar, the percent stays the same, but the dollar amount is-

512
00:27:05.192 --> 00:27:08.342
And what I don't, and I never liked this, like I said, for 13 years, that

513
00:27:08.632 --> 00:27:12.452
PWAC is an advisory committee, and they actually

514
00:27:12.512 --> 00:27:15.472
tell us how much it's going to be raised. We don't tell them.

515
00:27:15.572 --> 00:27:15.692
No.

516
00:27:16.032 --> 00:27:20.012
So technically, if PWAC comes back and they spend so much money, and they raise

517
00:27:20.052 --> 00:27:22.772
us 5, 10%, we have no authority to change that.

518
00:27:23.112 --> 00:27:24.452
Meanwhile, they're getting the money from us.

519
00:27:25.992 --> 00:27:29.852
I never did understand that, and to this day, I still never

520
00:27:29.912 --> 00:27:33.692
will. It's our money, but they're telling us how much they want,

521
00:27:33.852 --> 00:27:35.852
and we have no choice. We cannot change it.

522
00:27:36.052 --> 00:27:36.652
Yeah.

523
00:27:36.712 --> 00:27:38.132
So we don't even have authority to do that.

524
00:27:38.212 --> 00:27:38.402
Well, at

525
00:27:39.432 --> 00:27:39.912
the last

526
00:27:41.012 --> 00:27:44.372
Monday's meeting, at least there was a little kickback on one of the

527
00:27:44.452 --> 00:27:48.352
proposals, the doors replacement down at Eisenhower.

528
00:27:48.972 --> 00:27:52.912
They really balked at $70-some hundred per door, and they said,

529
00:27:52.962 --> 00:27:53.672
"This is nuts."

530
00:27:54.112 --> 00:27:55.442
Yeah. But my point is, the money come-

531
00:27:55.452 --> 00:27:58.912
So there's starting to be a little bit of a kickback on-

532
00:27:59.452 --> 00:27:59.782
Yeah. I understand

533
00:27:59.782 --> 00:28:00.342
... just where we're standing.

534
00:28:00.412 --> 00:28:02.302
But the money comes from the individual districts.

535
00:28:02.302 --> 00:28:02.981
It does. It comes from them.

536
00:28:03.002 --> 00:28:06.272
And the individual districts should have the say how much they get, not the other

537
00:28:06.312 --> 00:28:06.842
way around.

538
00:28:06.992 --> 00:28:09.892
True. But it doesn't.

539
00:28:10.092 --> 00:28:10.772
It comes from us.

540
00:28:11.972 --> 00:28:13.292
But like I said-

541
00:28:13.472 --> 00:28:13.592
Yeah

542
00:28:13.652 --> 00:28:15.852
... option two to me is, but I think we should-

543
00:28:15.892 --> 00:28:16.522
Yeah, I understand

544
00:28:16.552 --> 00:28:20.292
... we should put the 10% as a safety measure to give us some

545
00:28:20.352 --> 00:28:21.562
opportunity if necessary.

546
00:28:21.572 --> 00:28:21.832
We may-

547
00:28:21.862 --> 00:28:23.352
Yeah. I agree with that, on that.

548
00:28:23.512 --> 00:28:23.542
Two, yeah.

549
00:28:23.542 --> 00:28:24.572
Go with the 10%.

550
00:28:24.812 --> 00:28:28.632
So if we take '26, '27

551
00:28:29.232 --> 00:28:33.212
to 10%, do we want to also take

552
00:28:33.292 --> 00:28:36.912
the next one down to 5% as the max?

553
00:28:37.352 --> 00:28:40.912
And then when we vote in September, we can bring it back to this if we want.

554
00:28:41.332 --> 00:28:42.892
I think people need to-

555
00:28:43.572 --> 00:28:44.232
See the future?

556
00:28:44.451 --> 00:28:45.132
See the future.

557
00:28:45.552 --> 00:28:45.792
No.

558
00:28:45.812 --> 00:28:45.972
Do we-

559
00:28:46.021 --> 00:28:47.021
And 5% is-

560
00:28:47.052 --> 00:28:49.951
Do we cap it? We don't have to cap out years.

561
00:28:50.412 --> 00:28:54.132
No, you're only voting on fiscal year '26, '27.

562
00:28:54.692 --> 00:28:55.652
Right. Yeah.

563
00:28:55.812 --> 00:28:59.152
So we can put the 5% in the out years to give that picture.

564
00:28:59.252 --> 00:28:59.322
Yeah.

565
00:28:59.532 --> 00:29:02.812
But we can change that going into fiscal year '27, '28.

566
00:29:02.892 --> 00:29:04.652
You can say zero, you can say 15.

567
00:29:04.932 --> 00:29:05.032
Right.

568
00:29:05.372 --> 00:29:07.332
Yeah. We're not held to those numbers.

569
00:29:07.392 --> 00:29:08.692
If they see the projection-

570
00:29:08.832 --> 00:29:09.202
That's a good point

571
00:29:09.212 --> 00:29:10.492
... then they can see that we're

572
00:29:11.412 --> 00:29:13.292
trying to be mindful.

573
00:29:13.412 --> 00:29:13.562
Mm-hmm.

574
00:29:13.852 --> 00:29:16.912
Because it was great that for eight years nothing happened.

575
00:29:17.102 --> 00:29:17.502
Yeah. Yeah.

576
00:29:17.552 --> 00:29:19.392
Except then you get smacked upside the head.

577
00:29:19.912 --> 00:29:20.272
I agree.

578
00:29:21.112 --> 00:29:25.052
You may know better than I do, but I remember in the past when we put out the

579
00:29:25.072 --> 00:29:28.952
notice to the residents that for next year, how much the

580
00:29:29.312 --> 00:29:32.652
rates will go up or down or whatever for next year, we don't put out the

581
00:29:33.052 --> 00:29:36.872
projection to them. We don't project for the next three

582
00:29:36.912 --> 00:29:39.492
years. We don't tell the residents that.

583
00:29:39.712 --> 00:29:43.212
No. But anybody that pays attention is looking at this slide.

584
00:29:43.712 --> 00:29:45.232
Yeah, but they're not looking at this slide.

585
00:29:45.472 --> 00:29:45.612
Well-

586
00:29:45.672 --> 00:29:49.092
So my point is, they're not going to see that

587
00:29:49.592 --> 00:29:50.912
we are adjusting the

588
00:29:51.312 --> 00:29:55.302
years coming on, like two, three years.

589
00:29:55.332 --> 00:29:58.272
They're not going to see that. They're just going to see what's going to be next

590
00:29:58.312 --> 00:30:02.012
year. So let's not show them informa-- don't

591
00:30:02.072 --> 00:30:05.732
think they ain't going to know what we

592
00:30:05.772 --> 00:30:09.482
project. We don't put out that information to the residents.

593
00:30:09.532 --> 00:30:12.312
The information doesn't go individually to the residents.

594
00:30:12.372 --> 00:30:14.932
It's presented in our budget.

595
00:30:14.942 --> 00:30:14.942
Yeah.

596
00:30:14.952 --> 00:30:16.792
We do have the five-year information.

597
00:30:16.892 --> 00:30:17.852
And a lot of them don't go online and look at this.

598
00:30:17.912 --> 00:30:18.812
They follow up and-

599
00:30:18.892 --> 00:30:19.732
Yeah, a lot don't

600
00:30:20.232 --> 00:30:20.302
... and pay.

601
00:30:20.302 --> 00:30:20.572
A lot don't.

602
00:30:20.582 --> 00:30:23.712
Again, I think that it's more

603
00:30:24.512 --> 00:30:25.332
transparent-

604
00:30:25.732 --> 00:30:25.912
Yeah

605
00:30:26.332 --> 00:30:29.972
... if we say, knowing that

606
00:30:30.532 --> 00:30:33.872
the crazed rate of inflation at the moment could continue-

607
00:30:34.272 --> 00:30:34.452
Mm-hmm

608
00:30:34.512 --> 00:30:38.424
... that we'd behonest up front

609
00:30:38.444 --> 00:30:42.414
and say, "It could be 5% next year." Well, great that it's only going to be 3%,

610
00:30:42.944 --> 00:30:44.164
but it could be 5%.

611
00:30:44.244 --> 00:30:44.263
Yeah.

612
00:30:44.284 --> 00:30:47.904
So I would prefer that if we're going to do 10%, we're going to offer

613
00:30:47.944 --> 00:30:49.464
10%, potentially.

614
00:30:49.504 --> 00:30:49.924
Yeah.

615
00:30:50.024 --> 00:30:54.014
That if we want to adjust the others, people are going to say, "Well, why is it 10%

616
00:30:54.044 --> 00:30:56.184
and then it's going to be 3%?" So-

617
00:30:56.204 --> 00:30:59.024
But they're going to see that unless they go to the website. That's my point.

618
00:30:59.424 --> 00:30:59.434
Again-

619
00:30:59.444 --> 00:31:02.344
That's my point. The people believe me. Tell me, I'm telling you.

620
00:31:03.004 --> 00:31:06.464
You've got 65,000 people in these villages, and I don't know,

621
00:31:06.944 --> 00:31:08.184
how many hits you get on your website?

622
00:31:08.294 --> 00:31:11.304
And then how many people actually read the budget? Not a lot.

623
00:31:11.584 --> 00:31:12.444
I'm just-

624
00:31:12.544 --> 00:31:12.744
You know?

625
00:31:12.824 --> 00:31:13.564
If we're going to do it-

626
00:31:13.784 --> 00:31:17.284
Unless you put that in the email that goes out, in the little memo, the letter that

627
00:31:17.324 --> 00:31:17.704
goes out-

628
00:31:17.864 --> 00:31:17.964
No

629
00:31:17.974 --> 00:31:21.724
... saying the objective is going to be projected, will be, that's

630
00:31:21.784 --> 00:31:24.744
different. But unless they get the notice,

631
00:31:26.244 --> 00:31:27.524
I don't think they're going to know what's going on.

632
00:31:27.554 --> 00:31:28.464
I'm just asking the question.

633
00:31:28.564 --> 00:31:28.824
Yeah, no.

634
00:31:28.854 --> 00:31:30.944
If we go to 10%, do we adjust the others, too?

635
00:31:31.204 --> 00:31:32.664
Okay. Brainstorm is what we do.

636
00:31:32.904 --> 00:31:35.924
And we can provide you with multiple options when we come back in June.

637
00:31:35.964 --> 00:31:39.854
We can bring option two with 10%, and then the way it is, 5%, and the way

638
00:31:39.944 --> 00:31:43.534
it is, 10% with 5% afterwards. We can bring all of those to you so you can see.

639
00:31:43.534 --> 00:31:44.784
Right. Well, bring it with 10%, right?

640
00:31:44.804 --> 00:31:45.104
Yeah.

641
00:31:45.384 --> 00:31:45.924
For 26, 27.

642
00:31:46.184 --> 00:31:48.164
Yeah, 10% and 5%.

643
00:31:48.174 --> 00:31:48.174
Okay.

644
00:31:48.244 --> 00:31:52.094
And then look at, bring it as is with the 10% to

645
00:31:52.184 --> 00:31:56.064
start, and then with the 10% to start and 5% going

646
00:31:56.084 --> 00:31:56.304
down.

647
00:31:56.644 --> 00:31:58.284
Understood. We can bring you those two options.

648
00:31:58.324 --> 00:32:00.384
But that also will give us a better idea,

649
00:32:01.364 --> 00:32:05.344
potentially, if we did 5% each year, where we are in

650
00:32:05.384 --> 00:32:06.284
the ending balance.

651
00:32:06.444 --> 00:32:06.564
Sure.

652
00:32:06.644 --> 00:32:10.284
And maybe we don't need 10% because doing the 5% all across-

653
00:32:11.284 --> 00:32:11.724
Could do that

654
00:32:11.784 --> 00:32:12.804
... will give us better money.

655
00:32:13.744 --> 00:32:14.464
So, you know.

656
00:32:14.944 --> 00:32:15.184
Gotcha.

657
00:32:15.224 --> 00:32:16.144
Let's look at it that way.

658
00:32:16.844 --> 00:32:20.564
Okay. So anybody, any other questions? Any thoughts?

659
00:32:20.624 --> 00:32:20.804
No.

660
00:32:22.064 --> 00:32:25.004
Okay, we have a couple more slides, but I will bring you back those options in

661
00:32:25.064 --> 00:32:25.364
June.

662
00:32:26.644 --> 00:32:28.944
Very quickly, finally, we have your debt service fund.

663
00:32:29.104 --> 00:32:32.924
Looking at your 2015 assessment refunding for your debt service fund,

664
00:32:33.004 --> 00:32:36.804
you are meeting the amortization schedule, have a healthy reserve balance at this

665
00:32:36.864 --> 00:32:37.144
time.

666
00:32:38.024 --> 00:32:41.804
This concludes the overview of your fiscal year '26, '27 proposed budget.

667
00:32:42.314 --> 00:32:45.404
At this time, if there's any further questions, I'm happy to answer them.

668
00:32:45.544 --> 00:32:49.404
Otherwise, the next step is to bring back your proposed budget for your approval

669
00:32:49.464 --> 00:32:50.563
at the June 10th meeting.

670
00:32:51.844 --> 00:32:52.854
Any other questions? Good questions.

671
00:32:52.904 --> 00:32:56.064
Yeah, I do have a question that has nothing to do with this budget, but

672
00:32:57.864 --> 00:33:01.284
we're about to be moving into no bond

673
00:33:01.424 --> 00:33:03.224
times when we're not collecting bonds.

674
00:33:03.284 --> 00:33:07.004
I know a lot of people prepay their bonds, but there's always still some bond funds

675
00:33:07.064 --> 00:33:08.684
coming in. At some point,

676
00:33:09.914 --> 00:33:11.484
they were what, 20-year bonds?

677
00:33:11.504 --> 00:33:12.924
They have a 30-year bond.

678
00:33:13.564 --> 00:33:13.864
30-year, okay.

679
00:33:13.904 --> 00:33:14.664
Yeah, 30-year bond.

680
00:33:14.764 --> 00:33:16.744
We don't have to worry about that. Okay.

681
00:33:16.824 --> 00:33:16.954
I mean-

682
00:33:17.044 --> 00:33:18.644
Just curious because that's coming.

683
00:33:19.004 --> 00:33:21.004
Yeah, I know what you're saying. I hear you loud and clear. Yeah.

684
00:33:21.244 --> 00:33:23.864
We can provide the maturity dates to you for this.

685
00:33:24.344 --> 00:33:25.744
Yeah. Thank God we-

686
00:33:26.284 --> 00:33:27.704
That's also part of planning.

687
00:33:28.224 --> 00:33:31.824
Yeah. Thank God we refinanced years ago, our rates are nice now.

688
00:33:33.084 --> 00:33:33.504
Okay.

689
00:33:33.544 --> 00:33:34.804
All right. Thank you very much.

690
00:33:35.064 --> 00:33:35.744
Yeah, thank you.

691
00:33:36.164 --> 00:33:36.234
Thank you.

692
00:33:36.234 --> 00:33:37.674
Thank you. You got directions, beautiful.

693
00:33:37.674 --> 00:33:37.804
Hope the voice gets better.

694
00:33:38.704 --> 00:33:39.564
Now I see.

695
00:33:41.104 --> 00:33:42.944
We got new business.

696
00:33:45.564 --> 00:33:45.884
Brittany?

697
00:33:48.664 --> 00:33:51.064
Yes. The next item is under public hearing.

698
00:33:53.724 --> 00:33:55.354
Yep, and that's case number, you got it?

699
00:33:55.464 --> 00:33:59.284
Case number V7, you got it, V7926.

700
00:34:00.944 --> 00:34:03.664
Correct. Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

701
00:34:03.704 --> 00:34:07.484
Today I'm bringing before you case number D7-09-26,

702
00:34:07.884 --> 00:34:11.304
Village Community Development District number 7 versus Robert W.

703
00:34:11.404 --> 00:34:15.265
Page and Deborah S. Page, 2710 Iris Way,

704
00:34:15.765 --> 00:34:18.064
Unit 147, Lot 210.

705
00:34:21.225 --> 00:34:23.265
Okay. We got a district

706
00:34:24.084 --> 00:34:25.104
attorney on

707
00:34:26.824 --> 00:34:28.504
speaker. Are you there, Michelle?

708
00:34:29.745 --> 00:34:33.644
Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the public hearing held today, the board is acting in a

709
00:34:33.725 --> 00:34:37.404
quasi-judicial capacity to afford due process to individuals

710
00:34:37.844 --> 00:34:40.144
noted in violation of the district's rules.

711
00:34:41.844 --> 00:34:45.784
Such process includes a proper notice of the alleged violator, a

712
00:34:45.844 --> 00:34:49.185
violator has the opportunity to be heard, and the board's decision is made upon

713
00:34:49.284 --> 00:34:50.844
evidence presented to you today.

714
00:34:51.685 --> 00:34:55.624
So for that reason, I would like for the board to confirm for

715
00:34:55.665 --> 00:34:57.404
the record whether they had any

716
00:34:58.324 --> 00:35:02.284
discussions pertaining to this case, either with staff or homeowners outside of

717
00:35:02.364 --> 00:35:02.984
today's hearing.

718
00:35:05.004 --> 00:35:05.664
None by me.

719
00:35:06.224 --> 00:35:06.524
None.

720
00:35:07.104 --> 00:35:07.444
None.

721
00:35:07.784 --> 00:35:08.144
None.

722
00:35:10.204 --> 00:35:10.544
Thank you.

723
00:35:11.804 --> 00:35:14.084
I'll turn it over to the Community Standards staff.

724
00:35:16.604 --> 00:35:17.664
Got the swearing?

725
00:35:18.304 --> 00:35:22.134
If you're going to provide testimony in the case today, would you please

726
00:35:22.134 --> 00:35:23.684
rise and raise your right hand?

727
00:35:24.804 --> 00:35:28.164
Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony and evidence you're about to

728
00:35:28.204 --> 00:35:31.164
give in the hearing today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the

729
00:35:31.304 --> 00:35:31.583
truth?

730
00:35:31.724 --> 00:35:32.264
Yes, I do.

731
00:35:35.464 --> 00:35:37.633
Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

732
00:35:38.044 --> 00:35:41.964
Again, today I have before you case number D7-09-26,

733
00:35:42.344 --> 00:35:45.784
Village Community Development District number seven versus Robert W.

734
00:35:45.884 --> 00:35:49.744
Page and Deborah S. Page, 2710 Iris Way,

735
00:35:50.184 --> 00:35:53.964
unit 147, lot 210, violation of the

736
00:35:54.044 --> 00:35:57.884
district's rule to bring about deed compliance, and specifically the rule that

737
00:35:57.924 --> 00:36:01.894
states, "No building or structure shall be constructed, erected, placed,

738
00:36:01.944 --> 00:36:05.664
or altered on any home site until the construction plans and

739
00:36:05.674 --> 00:36:09.584
specifications and a plan showing the location of the building or

740
00:36:09.644 --> 00:36:13.544
structure has been approved." As found in the Village Community Development

741
00:36:13.664 --> 00:36:17.274
District number seven, external deed restrictions, definitions, and

742
00:36:17.324 --> 00:36:21.234
interpretations, the district is responsible for approving alterations,

743
00:36:21.324 --> 00:36:24.924
changes, or modifications to home sites and the exterior

744
00:36:24.984 --> 00:36:27.184
appearance and structure of the home.

745
00:36:27.704 --> 00:36:31.664
On March 9th, 2026, a complaint was received regarding a

746
00:36:31.724 --> 00:36:34.184
patio extension too close to the property line.

747
00:36:34.604 --> 00:36:38.464
Staff inspected the property and verified that there was a rear patio, and

748
00:36:38.484 --> 00:36:41.984
there was no ARC application on file for that modification.

749
00:36:42.484 --> 00:36:46.384
On March 11th, staff spoke to the homeowners, who indicated they were going to look

750
00:36:46.404 --> 00:36:49.684
to see if they had a copy of an approval, or submit an ARC

751
00:36:49.784 --> 00:36:53.704
application if necessary. A deed restriction reminder was issued

752
00:36:53.724 --> 00:36:57.644
that same day. The initial and second compliance letters were sent out on

753
00:36:57.704 --> 00:37:01.624
March 16th and April 2nd, and after following the procedures of

754
00:37:01.704 --> 00:37:05.024
compliance of external deed restrictions, a notice of public

755
00:37:05.064 --> 00:37:08.854
hearing was sent by regular and certified mail on April 22nd.

756
00:37:09.464 --> 00:37:12.134
On April 8th, ARC application number

757
00:37:12.504 --> 00:37:16.454
3335 for the rear patio modification was

758
00:37:16.464 --> 00:37:19.424
denied for being too close to the property lines.

759
00:37:19.464 --> 00:37:23.444
The guidelines state structures must be at least seven and a half feet off the rear

760
00:37:23.524 --> 00:37:26.604
property line and five feet off of the side property lines.

761
00:37:27.164 --> 00:37:30.804
On April 16th, staff spoke to the homeowners, who indicated they were

762
00:37:30.884 --> 00:37:33.464
working on submitting a new ARC application.

763
00:37:34.044 --> 00:37:37.784
An inspection conducted on May 4th confirmed that the property

764
00:37:37.844 --> 00:37:41.584
remains out of compliance. Staff's recommendation would be to find the

765
00:37:41.644 --> 00:37:45.584
owners in violation of the district's deed compliance rule as cited by the

766
00:37:45.624 --> 00:37:49.024
deed compliance staff. The owners have 45 days to

767
00:37:49.104 --> 00:37:53.024
submit and receive an approved ARC application for the

768
00:37:53.104 --> 00:37:57.064
rear patio modification and bring the property into accordance with

769
00:37:57.124 --> 00:38:01.044
that approved ARC application, or restore the property back to its

770
00:38:01.084 --> 00:38:04.744
originally constructed design. If the property is brought into

771
00:38:04.764 --> 00:38:08.184
accordance with an approved ARC application and an ARC

772
00:38:08.224 --> 00:38:11.924
application is received for the rear patio modification, and the

773
00:38:11.984 --> 00:38:15.724
property is brought into accordance with that approved ARC application,

774
00:38:16.184 --> 00:38:19.724
or if the property is restored back to its originally constructed

775
00:38:19.784 --> 00:38:23.764
design within 45 days of the order of enforcement, case

776
00:38:23.844 --> 00:38:27.644
number D7-09-26 shall be closed.

777
00:38:27.944 --> 00:38:31.884
If the property is not brought into compliance within 45 days of the

778
00:38:31.964 --> 00:38:35.924
order of enforcement, impose $150 fine to be paid

779
00:38:35.964 --> 00:38:39.724
within 10 days of the invoice, and impose a $50 daily fine

780
00:38:39.764 --> 00:38:41.804
until the property is brought into compliance.

781
00:38:42.344 --> 00:38:46.204
It is a property owner's responsibility to contact the Community Standards

782
00:38:46.284 --> 00:38:50.164
Department to request a deed compliance officer revisit the property

783
00:38:50.184 --> 00:38:53.964
and confirm compliance. If the fines reach $1,500,

784
00:38:54.324 --> 00:38:57.944
the case shall be turned over to district counsel to seek all available

785
00:38:57.964 --> 00:39:01.944
remedies, which may include initiating a lawsuit or seeking an injunction against

786
00:39:01.954 --> 00:39:05.853
the property owner. The property owners are responsible for reimbursing

787
00:39:05.853 --> 00:39:09.704
the district for all attorney's fees, costs, and expenses associated

788
00:39:09.774 --> 00:39:12.304
with or related to this order of enforcement.

789
00:39:12.724 --> 00:39:16.564
Chairman, to execute the order of enforcement, and I'm here to answer any questions

790
00:39:16.604 --> 00:39:19.524
that you may have, and the homeowners are also here as well.

791
00:39:21.324 --> 00:39:24.124
Okay. So where we're at with this right now is that the-

792
00:39:24.444 --> 00:39:26.554
Chair, if I may speak to open the public hearing.

793
00:39:26.554 --> 00:39:28.444
Oh, yes, very good. Thank you very much. Yes.

794
00:39:28.944 --> 00:39:31.284
Can I have a motion to open up the public hearing, please?

795
00:39:31.624 --> 00:39:33.684
Public hearing. Motion to open.

796
00:39:34.073 --> 00:39:34.664
Do we have a second?

797
00:39:34.964 --> 00:39:35.364
Second.

798
00:39:35.624 --> 00:39:36.304
All in favor?

799
00:39:36.904 --> 00:39:37.483
Aye.

800
00:39:38.234 --> 00:39:38.234
Aye.

801
00:39:38.284 --> 00:39:42.194
Motion. Public hearing is open. That means anybody in the public that

802
00:39:42.264 --> 00:39:45.264
said they could speak, okay? So everybody knows you have to... Okay.

803
00:39:46.824 --> 00:39:47.154
Thanks.

804
00:39:47.364 --> 00:39:47.654
Mm-hmm.

805
00:39:50.484 --> 00:39:51.584
Okay, any questions,

806
00:39:52.584 --> 00:39:53.263
supervisors?

807
00:39:56.383 --> 00:39:56.684
So

808
00:39:57.544 --> 00:39:59.324
it appears that this has been...

809
00:40:02.524 --> 00:40:03.964
When did this actually...

810
00:40:08.124 --> 00:40:09.273
Yeah. How long has this been-

811
00:40:09.824 --> 00:40:10.204
March

812
00:40:10.264 --> 00:40:13.784
... when was the initial property changes made without ARC?

813
00:40:15.924 --> 00:40:19.314
I could speak to maybe the homeowners might know when it was

814
00:40:19.364 --> 00:40:23.004
originally. I don't know when it was, since there wasn't an

815
00:40:23.064 --> 00:40:26.434
ARC application on file, I don't know when it was originally

816
00:40:26.464 --> 00:40:27.124
constructed.

817
00:40:30.024 --> 00:40:30.444
Okay.

818
00:40:33.284 --> 00:40:34.164
So we're at the point

819
00:40:35.264 --> 00:40:36.244
right now where the

820
00:40:37.204 --> 00:40:40.184
resident, obviously, and we'll have her come up in a second.

821
00:40:41.944 --> 00:40:45.144
You've got a few questions to ask her, but at this point,

822
00:40:45.824 --> 00:40:46.724
they have not

823
00:40:48.404 --> 00:40:51.144
obviously met the requirements.

824
00:40:51.544 --> 00:40:55.384
Correct. They submitted an application for what's there, but it was too close to

825
00:40:55.424 --> 00:40:58.144
the property line, so it got denied. So they're working on getting...

826
00:40:58.344 --> 00:41:02.244
They came in and met with staff, so they're working on a new ARC application to

827
00:41:02.364 --> 00:41:05.744
submit. I believe at this point, they just want to discuss it with their contractor

828
00:41:06.264 --> 00:41:07.964
before they finally submit it.

829
00:41:08.244 --> 00:41:08.314
But-

830
00:41:08.384 --> 00:41:09.084
So, and it-

831
00:41:10.644 --> 00:41:10.764
Yeah

832
00:41:10.804 --> 00:41:12.264
... something would have to be done-

833
00:41:12.504 --> 00:41:12.664
Yeah

834
00:41:13.524 --> 00:41:14.184
... with this-

835
00:41:14.364 --> 00:41:14.654
Correct

836
00:41:14.684 --> 00:41:15.164
... regardless.

837
00:41:15.944 --> 00:41:16.264
Perfect.

838
00:41:16.824 --> 00:41:19.784
The footage is the footage.

839
00:41:20.104 --> 00:41:21.324
Mm-hmm.

840
00:41:21.334 --> 00:41:25.064
So, that's not going to change no matter how many applications come in.

841
00:41:25.124 --> 00:41:28.584
So something has to be done at least to

842
00:41:28.604 --> 00:41:29.424
mitigate this

843
00:41:30.444 --> 00:41:33.384
complaint and allow them to move on, correct?

844
00:41:33.564 --> 00:41:37.524
Correct. So basically, what it would be is it would be to submit an ARC application

845
00:41:37.564 --> 00:41:40.544
for what could get approved, and then they would go ahead and make those

846
00:41:40.584 --> 00:41:41.884
modifications to the property.

847
00:41:43.336 --> 00:41:47.136
And it seems like, and I always try to side to the residents,

848
00:41:47.176 --> 00:41:51.076
obviously trying to help them, but it seems like you can't

849
00:41:51.096 --> 00:41:51.966
move the property line,

850
00:41:52.896 --> 00:41:53.156
right?

851
00:41:53.396 --> 00:41:53.816
Correct.

852
00:41:54.996 --> 00:41:55.546
So- So someone's got to move out ...

853
00:41:55.576 --> 00:41:57.856
so, it seems like it's a pretty big

854
00:41:58.756 --> 00:41:59.476
construction

855
00:42:01.316 --> 00:42:03.256
thing they did. They might have to

856
00:42:04.336 --> 00:42:06.116
take that down. Is that what you're telling me?

857
00:42:06.316 --> 00:42:06.696
Correct.

858
00:42:06.776 --> 00:42:07.596
Or cut it back some.

859
00:42:07.636 --> 00:42:08.856
Yeah, cut it back some.

860
00:42:08.916 --> 00:42:09.576
Wow. Yeah.

861
00:42:10.356 --> 00:42:12.566
How close are they to the easement?

862
00:42:13.816 --> 00:42:14.356
They're

863
00:42:15.436 --> 00:42:18.396
five feet where they should be seven and a half feet, so they're two and a half

864
00:42:18.476 --> 00:42:18.796
feet.

865
00:42:18.856 --> 00:42:19.896
Two and a half feet. That's a big difference.

866
00:42:19.916 --> 00:42:20.076
Yeah.

867
00:42:20.086 --> 00:42:23.456
That's a big difference. Yeah. That's a big difference. So we got to see.

868
00:42:24.336 --> 00:42:27.996
Can we have the resident come up and speak and find out what

869
00:42:28.096 --> 00:42:29.395
options do you have?

870
00:42:33.596 --> 00:42:34.016
Good morning.

871
00:42:34.116 --> 00:42:35.176
Give your name and address.

872
00:42:35.456 --> 00:42:39.036
Oh. Yes. Okay, I'm a little taller. Can you hear me?

873
00:42:39.496 --> 00:42:40.796
Yeah. Name.

874
00:42:41.396 --> 00:42:42.176
Deborah Page.

875
00:42:42.336 --> 00:42:42.716
Address.

876
00:42:43.356 --> 00:42:45.076
2710 Iris Way.

877
00:42:45.296 --> 00:42:46.516
Thank you. Go ahead. Yeah.

878
00:42:47.836 --> 00:42:51.716
Over nine years ago, the rear patio addition was built

879
00:42:51.756 --> 00:42:55.736
to five feet from the rear property line in compliance with Sumter

880
00:42:55.836 --> 00:42:59.336
County permitting regulations. We received a deed

881
00:42:59.416 --> 00:43:03.156
complaint on March 11, 2026, and we

882
00:43:03.196 --> 00:43:06.736
submitted a retroactive ARC application on March

883
00:43:06.876 --> 00:43:10.536
23rd, confident of approval. But to our surprise,

884
00:43:11.416 --> 00:43:14.876
we received an ARC denial on April 9th.

885
00:43:16.096 --> 00:43:19.836
So this denial required further research, and we discovered that the

886
00:43:19.916 --> 00:43:23.656
five-foot side concrete patio, as shown in our boundary

887
00:43:23.796 --> 00:43:25.696
survey when we purchased the home,

888
00:43:26.596 --> 00:43:30.376
which was also included in the denial, was evidently

889
00:43:30.476 --> 00:43:34.196
added by previous homeowners without either ARC

890
00:43:34.236 --> 00:43:36.156
approval or county permitting.

891
00:43:37.186 --> 00:43:41.076
We now understand that the village's community standards

892
00:43:41.116 --> 00:43:44.496
does not have the authority to grant exceptions to deed

893
00:43:44.536 --> 00:43:45.416
restrictions.

894
00:43:46.336 --> 00:43:49.076
As a result, we acknowledge the District 7 deed

895
00:43:49.136 --> 00:43:52.756
restrictions for our property that no vertical

896
00:43:52.896 --> 00:43:56.536
structures are to be erected within the seven-and-a-half-foot

897
00:43:56.776 --> 00:44:00.556
rear easement. Therefore, we will not appeal the denial, and

898
00:44:00.616 --> 00:44:04.606
instead, we have already started the process of bringing

899
00:44:04.636 --> 00:44:06.616
our property into full compliance.

900
00:44:07.736 --> 00:44:10.536
We have hired a general contractor for this purpose.

901
00:44:11.076 --> 00:44:14.856
We have met with the compliance staff for guidance, and we will

902
00:44:14.936 --> 00:44:18.856
submit a new ARC application by 5:00 PM this Friday,

903
00:44:19.316 --> 00:44:22.836
May 8th, 2026. This is a substantial

904
00:44:22.936 --> 00:44:26.916
project that cannot be quickly and easily rectified, and a

905
00:44:26.956 --> 00:44:30.556
reasonable amount of time will be needed for our general

906
00:44:30.676 --> 00:44:33.716
contractor to plan and schedule the work to be done.

907
00:44:34.616 --> 00:44:34.996
Thank you.

908
00:44:35.596 --> 00:44:38.496
Can I ask a question now? Tell me if I'm right or wrong.

909
00:44:38.576 --> 00:44:38.656
You

910
00:44:39.676 --> 00:44:41.016
bought the house with this

911
00:44:42.576 --> 00:44:45.436
structure there, or did you have the structure put in yourself?

912
00:44:45.456 --> 00:44:49.196
Well, there was a side structure that was there that was not

913
00:44:49.236 --> 00:44:52.876
approved or permitted, but we didn't know because it was on our boundary survey.

914
00:44:53.236 --> 00:44:57.216
And then we added this portion here that you see to

915
00:44:57.276 --> 00:44:57.816
that side-

916
00:44:57.876 --> 00:44:57.985
Oh, okay. Got it

917
00:44:57.985 --> 00:44:59.716
... so it made kind of a wraparound.

918
00:44:59.876 --> 00:45:02.296
Okay. So the question is, you did put the structure in.

919
00:45:03.796 --> 00:45:07.676
Okay, what was there before wasn't approved, and you're saying that

920
00:45:07.716 --> 00:45:08.026
wasn't

921
00:45:08.876 --> 00:45:12.646
approved. But what you put in, you just added to the non-approved

922
00:45:12.916 --> 00:45:14.076
structure, correct?

923
00:45:15.166 --> 00:45:15.166
Yes.

924
00:45:15.176 --> 00:45:17.796
In other words, you had the structure that was there that wasn't approved, and you

925
00:45:17.856 --> 00:45:18.416
added to it.

926
00:45:19.176 --> 00:45:19.456
Yes.

927
00:45:19.656 --> 00:45:19.856
Okay.

928
00:45:19.976 --> 00:45:22.296
Not realizing deed restrictions.

929
00:45:22.306 --> 00:45:24.556
And nobody told you about architect review at the time?

930
00:45:24.836 --> 00:45:28.646
Anything outside your house, I know it's late in the game, but

931
00:45:28.656 --> 00:45:32.566
anything outside your house, no matter what it is, if you need to know, always

932
00:45:32.596 --> 00:45:33.226
do architect review.

933
00:45:33.265 --> 00:45:33.676
Absolutely.

934
00:45:33.736 --> 00:45:34.816
Now you know. I know.

935
00:45:35.116 --> 00:45:35.576
Uh-huh. Okay.

936
00:45:36.516 --> 00:45:36.576
You

937
00:45:39.136 --> 00:45:42.936
now have a contract or you have an agreement with your contractor

938
00:45:43.056 --> 00:45:43.356
to-

939
00:45:43.616 --> 00:45:43.626
Yes.

940
00:45:44.616 --> 00:45:46.536
So that's all in motion right now?

941
00:45:46.756 --> 00:45:47.136
Yes.

942
00:45:47.176 --> 00:45:47.396
Good.

943
00:45:48.736 --> 00:45:52.616
We're hoping to talk with him today to get a drawing, and we're going to submit

944
00:45:52.656 --> 00:45:54.996
the new ARC application this Friday.

945
00:45:55.436 --> 00:45:55.806
And how much-

946
00:45:55.806 --> 00:45:56.686
To have all of this rectified

947
00:45:56.716 --> 00:46:00.555
... how much time you think you'll need to get the permit,

948
00:46:01.076 --> 00:46:04.606
and we need extra time. How much do you figure would it be?

949
00:46:04.675 --> 00:46:04.716
I

950
00:46:05.636 --> 00:46:06.316
have no idea.

951
00:46:06.616 --> 00:46:07.096
Yeah. Okay.

952
00:46:07.336 --> 00:46:09.136
I just want enough time that we're covered, so we're

953
00:46:09.936 --> 00:46:10.476
cool with you.

954
00:46:10.956 --> 00:46:13.396
Yeah. Okay. Julianne?

955
00:46:13.496 --> 00:46:16.596
I would say that knowing that it's in process-

956
00:46:16.696 --> 00:46:16.876
Right

957
00:46:16.936 --> 00:46:18.856
... that their goal is to achieve

958
00:46:19.676 --> 00:46:20.236
compliance,

959
00:46:21.636 --> 00:46:25.606
that, I don't know how we say, up to four months and then more information and

960
00:46:25.736 --> 00:46:29.636
see if it's being constructed, and then if it is, extend it because

961
00:46:29.676 --> 00:46:30.396
it's in process.

962
00:46:31.336 --> 00:46:34.676
Yeah. Exactly. Very good. We're saying what's

963
00:46:35.596 --> 00:46:37.096
protocol because this is pretty big.

964
00:46:37.176 --> 00:46:39.096
This is going to take a little time, obviously.

965
00:46:40.696 --> 00:46:43.326
Can we give her a extension, obviously, right?

966
00:46:43.716 --> 00:46:46.876
And when we get an extension, can the villages do a

967
00:46:47.436 --> 00:46:51.276
review of the progress, and we'll adjust it that way.

968
00:46:51.356 --> 00:46:55.216
If it takes an extra two months or three months, we'll want to give her

969
00:46:56.156 --> 00:46:59.936
enough time to get it done, only knowing that it is being

970
00:47:00.016 --> 00:47:03.876
done. Okay? So we need the village to go out there and investigate and make sure

971
00:47:03.896 --> 00:47:05.256
it's being done. Can we somehow

972
00:47:06.356 --> 00:47:07.196
do something like that?

973
00:47:07.876 --> 00:47:08.636
Yes. We can.

974
00:47:09.256 --> 00:47:10.176
Yes. I'm sorry.

975
00:47:11.716 --> 00:47:15.396
Yes, we can absolutely do that. So you pick a timeline, say you want four

976
00:47:15.436 --> 00:47:18.856
months. We can go ahead and do monthly updates at each of your board meetings-

977
00:47:19.486 --> 00:47:19.486
September 1st

978
00:47:19.496 --> 00:47:23.376
... to see where the property is going and

979
00:47:23.436 --> 00:47:27.156
then bring it back to you after that four months if they need

980
00:47:27.196 --> 00:47:28.656
additional time. It's-

981
00:47:28.766 --> 00:47:30.556
So how about if we say September 1st-

982
00:47:30.856 --> 00:47:31.056
Okay

983
00:47:31.616 --> 00:47:34.216
... pending that ARC approves the new plan.

984
00:47:34.616 --> 00:47:34.856
Okay.

985
00:47:35.256 --> 00:47:35.636
Of course.

986
00:47:40.016 --> 00:47:40.246
And if-

987
00:47:40.316 --> 00:47:40.556
Second

988
00:47:40.756 --> 00:47:42.116
... nothing's happening, then

989
00:47:44.508 --> 00:47:44.848
Okay.

990
00:47:45.768 --> 00:47:45.968
It would-

991
00:47:46.588 --> 00:47:47.388
As long as the-

992
00:47:48.748 --> 00:47:49.868
The activity is happening.

993
00:47:51.048 --> 00:47:54.028
As I was about to say, as long as they're moving forward, yes.

994
00:47:55.488 --> 00:47:56.728
Give them the waiver until September.

995
00:47:57.608 --> 00:47:57.708
So-

996
00:47:57.788 --> 00:47:58.268
Ed?

997
00:47:58.388 --> 00:48:02.218
Yeah. As long as there's an agreement in hand that

998
00:48:03.028 --> 00:48:05.528
the contractor's supposed to do something,

999
00:48:06.588 --> 00:48:09.028
I'm more than willing to let this go.

1000
00:48:10.508 --> 00:48:12.168
Jumping at four months, I don't know.

1001
00:48:12.268 --> 00:48:16.088
I'd like to just hear maybe in two months, just know that, yeah,

1002
00:48:16.708 --> 00:48:18.868
somebody broke ground or something happened.

1003
00:48:18.908 --> 00:48:19.808
But,

1004
00:48:20.628 --> 00:48:23.218
I think with the contract in hand, I'm

1005
00:48:24.348 --> 00:48:27.068
pretty satisfied that it's going to get remedied.

1006
00:48:27.508 --> 00:48:30.188
I agree. Do we need a motion for this?

1007
00:48:31.028 --> 00:48:34.008
Yes, we will need a motion. And would you like monthly updates-

1008
00:48:34.288 --> 00:48:34.298
Yes

1009
00:48:34.298 --> 00:48:35.438
... at each of your board meetings? Okay.

1010
00:48:35.688 --> 00:48:35.698
Yes.

1011
00:48:35.728 --> 00:48:39.448
Mr. Chairman, we'll need to

1012
00:48:39.488 --> 00:48:40.428
close the public hearing.

1013
00:48:40.448 --> 00:48:40.848
Yeah.

1014
00:48:40.928 --> 00:48:41.468
Motion to close the public hearing.

1015
00:48:41.568 --> 00:48:43.108
It gets so involved, this is...

1016
00:48:43.888 --> 00:48:44.218
Second.

1017
00:48:44.328 --> 00:48:45.468
All in favor?

1018
00:48:45.728 --> 00:48:46.148
Aye.

1019
00:48:46.248 --> 00:48:46.988
Any opposed?

1020
00:48:47.808 --> 00:48:49.538
Public hearing is closed. Thank you.

1021
00:48:49.538 --> 00:48:49.538
Okay.

1022
00:48:49.568 --> 00:48:52.368
So the motion is to extend

1023
00:48:53.368 --> 00:48:55.168
the period of time.

1024
00:48:56.508 --> 00:48:58.698
We'll get monthly updates that activity is happening.

1025
00:48:58.748 --> 00:48:58.888
Yep.

1026
00:48:58.908 --> 00:49:02.808
But first thing is that they must get ARC approval for the new

1027
00:49:02.948 --> 00:49:03.248
plans.

1028
00:49:03.268 --> 00:49:03.398
Mm-hmm.

1029
00:49:04.068 --> 00:49:07.908
And then if that's approved, and then get dates and times, then they have

1030
00:49:07.948 --> 00:49:11.708
until the 1st of September, but that we'll get monthly updates on activities

1031
00:49:11.748 --> 00:49:13.168
as Sharon will drive by and say,

1032
00:49:13.978 --> 00:49:13.998
"Hey."

1033
00:49:14.028 --> 00:49:15.048
Yep, absolutely.

1034
00:49:16.188 --> 00:49:17.528
I'll second whatever she said.

1035
00:49:19.828 --> 00:49:21.708
Beautiful. All in favor?

1036
00:49:22.008 --> 00:49:22.328
Aye.

1037
00:49:22.388 --> 00:49:24.248
Any opposed? Motion approved.

1038
00:49:24.288 --> 00:49:24.767
Thank you, board.

1039
00:49:24.948 --> 00:49:25.348
Thank you.

1040
00:49:25.598 --> 00:49:26.548
Nothing ever goes fast.

1041
00:49:26.588 --> 00:49:26.828
Thank you.

1042
00:49:26.838 --> 00:49:28.428
And good luck with that, seriously.

1043
00:49:28.828 --> 00:49:32.778
Once again, we have a situation where property was

1044
00:49:32.828 --> 00:49:33.228
sold.

1045
00:49:34.948 --> 00:49:35.728
That's where I was going.

1046
00:49:35.808 --> 00:49:37.108
It was out of compliance.

1047
00:49:37.138 --> 00:49:38.348
But only part of it was out of compliance.

1048
00:49:38.688 --> 00:49:40.327
That's where it becomes a little different then.

1049
00:49:40.428 --> 00:49:40.608
Yeah.

1050
00:49:40.618 --> 00:49:40.998
Only part of it was out of compliance.

1051
00:49:40.998 --> 00:49:44.188
It's a little different, but it was still sold with part of it being out of

1052
00:49:44.308 --> 00:49:44.738
compliance.

1053
00:49:44.738 --> 00:49:45.158
We can't get into the-

1054
00:49:45.208 --> 00:49:45.748
Who was your

1055
00:49:46.788 --> 00:49:47.168
realtor?

1056
00:49:49.608 --> 00:49:50.188
Villages?

1057
00:49:50.348 --> 00:49:51.048
The realtor?

1058
00:49:51.708 --> 00:49:53.968
Did you go through the Villages agents?

1059
00:49:54.208 --> 00:49:54.237
Uh, Villages.

1060
00:49:54.237 --> 00:49:54.718
Yes, okay.

1061
00:49:55.168 --> 00:49:55.668
So,

1062
00:49:56.988 --> 00:49:59.288
a realtor that should have known better.

1063
00:50:01.868 --> 00:50:02.148
Why?

1064
00:50:02.668 --> 00:50:06.468
I tell you, the first thought in my mind was, if she bought that

1065
00:50:06.508 --> 00:50:10.448
house, if that resident bought that house and it was that way, if they didn't

1066
00:50:10.488 --> 00:50:14.048
do any improvement with it, I'll be honest with you, it would be hard for me to

1067
00:50:14.148 --> 00:50:14.828
even make them

1068
00:50:16.228 --> 00:50:17.648
liable for that because

1069
00:50:18.748 --> 00:50:21.708
you buy a house, you don't know if it meets architect review.

1070
00:50:21.888 --> 00:50:22.028
Well-

1071
00:50:22.328 --> 00:50:23.837
You don't know. And

1072
00:50:25.148 --> 00:50:28.808
I honestly believe, I know you may disagree with me, I would've said throw it out.

1073
00:50:29.168 --> 00:50:33.108
Because I see a pet peeve, if I buy a house and it's got the

1074
00:50:33.128 --> 00:50:36.488
wrong color roof, and all of a sudden somebody makes a complaint

1075
00:50:36.908 --> 00:50:40.488
and I'm there one month, now I've got to pay $20,000 to get a new roof done and

1076
00:50:40.528 --> 00:50:41.448
nobody told me about it,

1077
00:50:42.408 --> 00:50:44.988
I'll be honest with you, that that would make me jump off the roof.

1078
00:50:45.068 --> 00:50:45.768
I would-

1079
00:50:46.448 --> 00:50:48.628
This is ongoing. What are we going to do about it?

1080
00:50:48.968 --> 00:50:49.388
We don't know.

1081
00:50:49.397 --> 00:50:49.808
I don't think it's-

1082
00:50:50.308 --> 00:50:51.168
But that's not our-

1083
00:50:51.408 --> 00:50:52.008
Yeah, we have no-

1084
00:50:52.138 --> 00:50:52.138
...

1085
00:50:53.268 --> 00:50:54.288
purview to do that.

1086
00:50:54.428 --> 00:50:55.508
We're here to enforce our requirements.

1087
00:50:55.548 --> 00:50:56.708
It's a civil matter.

1088
00:50:56.718 --> 00:51:00.408
We discuss this frequently, and it's something that we-- I understand the

1089
00:51:00.448 --> 00:51:01.788
emotional side of it to-

1090
00:51:01.908 --> 00:51:02.068
Yeah

1091
00:51:02.268 --> 00:51:05.008
... to want to mitigate and

1092
00:51:05.068 --> 00:51:09.048
lessen any such impact that it has on the

1093
00:51:09.368 --> 00:51:13.208
homeowner. But we're treading into waters that we don't

1094
00:51:13.628 --> 00:51:14.028
have a thing.

1095
00:51:14.057 --> 00:51:16.408
If we do not hold the standard

1096
00:51:17.368 --> 00:51:20.348
accountable for everybody, then why have standards?

1097
00:51:20.428 --> 00:51:23.308
Yeah, but you can't hold somebody accountable for something they don't know, and

1098
00:51:23.328 --> 00:51:24.048
they're not aware of.

1099
00:51:24.057 --> 00:51:26.768
I'm sorry, but before we purchased our house-

1100
00:51:28.228 --> 00:51:28.428
Yeah

1101
00:51:28.508 --> 00:51:30.408
... we went ahead and checked

1102
00:51:31.408 --> 00:51:35.148
to see what the deed restrictions were and that we were in compliance because they

1103
00:51:35.168 --> 00:51:39.048
had done some things in our house. We were in compliance, we were fine.

1104
00:51:40.568 --> 00:51:43.348
Most people bought the house, most, not all, bought the houses new.

1105
00:51:43.408 --> 00:51:46.068
Obviously, you don't have that problem with new, but with the resale, you've got a

1106
00:51:46.128 --> 00:51:49.747
problem. Most people do not know what architect review is.

1107
00:51:50.108 --> 00:51:52.768
I agree with you, and somehow they should be told.

1108
00:51:54.188 --> 00:51:56.288
Well, they should be, but I think- Michelle, can we require-

1109
00:51:57.328 --> 00:51:57.818
... we can't

1110
00:51:57.818 --> 00:52:01.388
... all sales include a statement that the

1111
00:52:01.428 --> 00:52:03.848
property is within compliance?

1112
00:52:05.968 --> 00:52:08.128
Can we require that for District Seven?

1113
00:52:11.448 --> 00:52:14.968
I don't know that there is a specific requirement that

1114
00:52:15.888 --> 00:52:19.518
we can enforce upon that, but we can

1115
00:52:19.768 --> 00:52:21.308
certainly make the request.

1116
00:52:22.368 --> 00:52:26.028
And this is, you all are aware of it, it is

1117
00:52:26.068 --> 00:52:28.598
outside the CDD's purview-

1118
00:52:29.188 --> 00:52:29.418
Mm-hmm

1119
00:52:29.828 --> 00:52:33.048
... how the sale between the private

1120
00:52:33.428 --> 00:52:34.978
homeowners are carried out.

1121
00:52:35.948 --> 00:52:39.348
But at least, for CDD's side of things,

1122
00:52:39.488 --> 00:52:40.308
statutorily,

1123
00:52:41.328 --> 00:52:45.218
the sales agents are required to make a note of the fact that

1124
00:52:45.268 --> 00:52:49.168
the CDD exists, that there are specific liens involved.

1125
00:52:49.208 --> 00:52:50.838
And similar to that,

1126
00:52:51.748 --> 00:52:55.268
I'd imagine there is a disclosure typically made

1127
00:52:55.348 --> 00:52:57.788
regarding the covenants and restrictions.

1128
00:52:58.128 --> 00:53:00.448
On the title work, it should definitely show up.

1129
00:53:01.368 --> 00:53:04.568
So there are entrances for those

1130
00:53:04.608 --> 00:53:08.468
information to be distributed ahead of individual

1131
00:53:08.528 --> 00:53:12.488
purchasers. But again, just noting that generally the district

1132
00:53:12.568 --> 00:53:15.968
is outside that purchase process.

1133
00:53:17.348 --> 00:53:21.208
The other thing that concerns me is that if you read that packet,

1134
00:53:21.508 --> 00:53:24.728
they actually got permission from the Sumter County Building Services

1135
00:53:25.028 --> 00:53:27.248
Division.

1136
00:53:27.257 --> 00:53:27.257
Mm-hmm.

1137
00:53:27.257 --> 00:53:28.328
They went and got a permit-

1138
00:53:28.528 --> 00:53:28.788
Mm-hmm

1139
00:53:29.248 --> 00:53:31.078
... for that addition from Sumter County.

1140
00:53:31.708 --> 00:53:31.948
Yes.

1141
00:53:31.988 --> 00:53:34.708
Sumter County doesn't know we have deed restrictions?

1142
00:53:35.068 --> 00:53:36.148
No, they do,

1143
00:53:37.328 --> 00:53:38.848
but it's the same where if

1144
00:53:40.028 --> 00:53:43.848
there is some due diligence requirements on behalf of the individual

1145
00:53:43.888 --> 00:53:47.708
that's making the change in that we let individuals

1146
00:53:47.748 --> 00:53:51.588
know that just because you get an ARC application doesn't preclude you from

1147
00:53:51.648 --> 00:53:54.988
getting a county permit to do certain work, and vice versa

1148
00:53:55.672 --> 00:53:55.752
Yeah.

1149
00:53:55.792 --> 00:53:56.012
So,

1150
00:53:58.512 --> 00:54:02.412
Ms. Rigoni, I know this topic has come up before, and it was reviewed.

1151
00:54:03.352 --> 00:54:07.132
There are disclosures during the closing of properties,

1152
00:54:07.332 --> 00:54:08.932
and that could entail,

1153
00:54:11.132 --> 00:54:14.692
even if work was done without a county permit or a city permit,

1154
00:54:15.032 --> 00:54:18.432
that's all part of the disclosure process, and it does become a civil matter

1155
00:54:18.632 --> 00:54:21.052
if something is not properly disclosed.

1156
00:54:21.452 --> 00:54:25.272
And you have to be cognizant of your spending of

1157
00:54:25.332 --> 00:54:28.672
maintenance assessment funds on private party matters.

1158
00:54:30.492 --> 00:54:30.752
Yeah.

1159
00:54:31.012 --> 00:54:31.172
Yeah.

1160
00:54:32.612 --> 00:54:33.812
Well, okay.

1161
00:54:36.252 --> 00:54:36.392
Well-

1162
00:54:36.952 --> 00:54:37.372
Thank you

1163
00:54:37.442 --> 00:54:37.852
... good luck.

1164
00:54:38.392 --> 00:54:38.401
Thank you.

1165
00:54:38.412 --> 00:54:40.852
And I hope you get it done as soon as you could. Yeah.

1166
00:54:41.072 --> 00:54:41.382
Good luck.

1167
00:54:41.732 --> 00:54:42.072
Thank you.

1168
00:54:42.372 --> 00:54:43.392
Okay, we have a second-

1169
00:54:44.672 --> 00:54:47.832
This property has actually come into compliance for case number

1170
00:54:48.572 --> 00:54:50.612
D710-26.

1171
00:54:50.732 --> 00:54:50.872
Yes.

1172
00:54:50.892 --> 00:54:52.812
So that one is being pulled from the agenda.

1173
00:54:53.072 --> 00:54:55.291
That I should've asked at the beginning. Yeah, that's great.

1174
00:54:56.392 --> 00:54:59.212
Okay. We're going to old business.

1175
00:55:00.172 --> 00:55:02.972
Michelle? I mean, not Michelle, sorry, Michelle. Brittany?

1176
00:55:03.892 --> 00:55:05.332
Well, actually, this is

1177
00:55:07.612 --> 00:55:10.892
Yeah. It is my item. I'm happy to go through them.

1178
00:55:11.172 --> 00:55:14.192
Yeah. It is yours. But Brittany, go ahead.

1179
00:55:14.232 --> 00:55:16.512
You start it, and then Michelle can end it.

1180
00:55:18.512 --> 00:55:22.272
Sure. So I will defer to counsel on the draft demand letter.

1181
00:55:23.232 --> 00:55:27.092
We also included the discussion of the deed compliance case

1182
00:55:27.152 --> 00:55:30.792
threshold. We included that on old business in the event the board wants to

1183
00:55:30.832 --> 00:55:33.932
consider adjusting it on future order of enforcement,

1184
00:55:35.232 --> 00:55:37.942
and a copy of the draft letter to the developer,

1185
00:55:39.832 --> 00:55:43.132
requesting the Chapter 190 amendment is included.

1186
00:55:43.452 --> 00:55:47.332
We do not have a response as of today, but as soon as that is received, we

1187
00:55:47.372 --> 00:55:48.532
will provide that to the board.

1188
00:55:48.972 --> 00:55:51.392
Yeah. Michelle has an update. Michelle, you're up.

1189
00:55:53.632 --> 00:55:57.512
Thank you, and good morning to everyone who's attending this

1190
00:55:57.532 --> 00:55:58.932
and maybe hearing for the first time.

1191
00:55:58.952 --> 00:56:02.572
So I will also go through and briefly recap what the board

1192
00:56:02.612 --> 00:56:06.552
previously discussed. So at our last meeting, we walked

1193
00:56:06.572 --> 00:56:09.952
through the district's enforcement and collection options for outstanding covenant

1194
00:56:10.012 --> 00:56:13.792
violation fines. We ultimately

1195
00:56:14.092 --> 00:56:17.932
ended up on a tiered approach, starting with demand letters, escalating

1196
00:56:18.032 --> 00:56:21.592
to a collection agency if needed, and ultimately

1197
00:56:21.612 --> 00:56:24.592
pursuing a claim through the

1198
00:56:25.632 --> 00:56:28.992
court process. And today, I would like to focus

1199
00:56:29.172 --> 00:56:32.232
specifically on that first step of the tiered approach, which is a demand letter.

1200
00:56:33.412 --> 00:56:36.712
And that is what we have in front of you today.

1201
00:56:36.752 --> 00:56:40.332
As I discussed last time, the demand letters will create a clear written record,

1202
00:56:40.632 --> 00:56:42.532
and they will demonstrate the district's good faith

1203
00:56:44.212 --> 00:56:47.632
effort before escalating into a more formal judicial action.

1204
00:56:48.632 --> 00:56:52.472
The letter does three key things. First, it identifies the

1205
00:56:52.512 --> 00:56:56.472
total amount owed to the date of the letter. That is an important nuance.

1206
00:56:56.822 --> 00:56:59.872
So it's the outstanding fines and the attorney fees and costs that have accrued.

1207
00:57:00.632 --> 00:57:04.132
Second, it gives the resident a defined number of business days to pay with

1208
00:57:04.172 --> 00:57:07.732
instructions to contact Community Standards to verify the current balance before

1209
00:57:07.792 --> 00:57:10.872
submitting the payment. And that is because

1210
00:57:12.652 --> 00:57:16.632
the amount of the fines accruing does not stop once the

1211
00:57:16.652 --> 00:57:20.642
demand letter is issued. It continues to accrue until the property

1212
00:57:20.692 --> 00:57:23.872
is brought into compliance and the fine is paid.

1213
00:57:24.592 --> 00:57:28.532
So before the homeowner makes a payment, they

1214
00:57:28.572 --> 00:57:32.152
need to call and ensure that they are paying the correct amount

1215
00:57:32.512 --> 00:57:36.292
as of the date of the payment. And third, it clearly states that the

1216
00:57:36.372 --> 00:57:39.992
consequences of non-payment is that the district will pursue all available

1217
00:57:40.192 --> 00:57:43.932
remedies, including turning the case over to a collection agency or filing a

1218
00:57:43.992 --> 00:57:47.772
claim in small claims court or in civil court, as

1219
00:57:47.792 --> 00:57:48.372
appropriate.

1220
00:57:49.352 --> 00:57:51.252
And if the demand letter doesn't resolve the matter,

1221
00:57:52.132 --> 00:57:54.472
again, we escalate it to the next step.

1222
00:57:55.152 --> 00:57:58.492
So demand letter, again, is essentially the first step on the path to

1223
00:57:59.232 --> 00:58:01.132
ultimately be able to

1224
00:58:02.292 --> 00:58:04.592
probably and perhaps, if the

1225
00:58:05.532 --> 00:58:09.362
demand letter does not result in compliance, and if we go through the

1226
00:58:09.452 --> 00:58:13.212
steps of going through the collection agency and potentially filing

1227
00:58:13.312 --> 00:58:17.212
a judgment, once we get a favorable judgment, that judgment itself

1228
00:58:17.292 --> 00:58:20.932
could serve as a lien if we go through these proper legal

1229
00:58:20.992 --> 00:58:21.332
channels.

1230
00:58:22.812 --> 00:58:24.032
So our next step is to

1231
00:58:25.332 --> 00:58:27.152
begin issuing these demand letters.

1232
00:58:28.352 --> 00:58:32.192
For purposes of finalizing this, we would like

1233
00:58:32.212 --> 00:58:35.632
board feedback on how long we should give each recipient to

1234
00:58:35.672 --> 00:58:38.792
respond before staff elevates to the next enforcement step.

1235
00:58:39.612 --> 00:58:42.952
And then we will work with this form to issue

1236
00:58:44.212 --> 00:58:46.932
to those violators who have $1,500

1237
00:58:48.392 --> 00:58:49.812
in outstanding fines or more.

1238
00:58:51.812 --> 00:58:54.032
Michelle, on that, I saw you doing a lot of work on that.

1239
00:58:54.132 --> 00:58:56.921
I know all supervisors got the emails from you.

1240
00:58:57.972 --> 00:59:01.942
On the demand letters right now, I know we had one that we negotiated with, and

1241
00:59:02.092 --> 00:59:04.202
I hear that we already got the check. Is that correct?

1242
00:59:06.012 --> 00:59:09.572
Yes. So that was the settlement agreement with the

1243
00:59:11.312 --> 00:59:15.212
brother of the homeowner who passed, that we did get

1244
00:59:15.272 --> 00:59:18.852
a check on that. And that settlement agreement is also,

1245
00:59:19.532 --> 00:59:21.092
I believe, in front of you.

1246
00:59:21.532 --> 00:59:21.672
Yeah.

1247
00:59:21.852 --> 00:59:22.252
Perhaps.

1248
00:59:22.492 --> 00:59:22.752
Yes.

1249
00:59:23.092 --> 00:59:23.352
Okay.

1250
00:59:23.812 --> 00:59:27.432
And then we had, I think it was three others or four others. I'm not really sure.

1251
00:59:27.532 --> 00:59:29.332
I know you and Armstrong were going through

1252
00:59:30.132 --> 00:59:31.252
how many more we have.

1253
00:59:32.072 --> 00:59:32.972
What is that number?

1254
00:59:34.412 --> 00:59:36.972
We have four violators who have

1255
00:59:37.552 --> 00:59:40.332
1,500 or more in outstanding fines.

1256
00:59:40.452 --> 00:59:44.032
So those four violators will be receiving a demand letter,

1257
00:59:44.892 --> 00:59:47.272
along with a reference of the order of enforcement.

1258
00:59:47.852 --> 00:59:48.092
That

1259
00:59:49.052 --> 00:59:51.872
order of enforcement is a result of you

1260
00:59:52.872 --> 00:59:56.352
all previously holding a public hearing on each of those violations.

1261
00:59:57.136 --> 01:00:00.986
Okay, so to proceed in bringing out the, to mail out the letters now,

1262
01:00:01.056 --> 01:00:04.756
all you need is from us, from the supervisors, is it how long the

1263
01:00:04.836 --> 01:00:05.196
dates

1264
01:00:06.136 --> 01:00:10.056
for them to apply or to respond? Am I correct?

1265
01:00:11.236 --> 01:00:12.636
Yep. That's correct.

1266
01:00:13.076 --> 01:00:15.136
Okay. Judianne, what do you got?

1267
01:00:16.276 --> 01:00:18.776
I think that they should have 10 days from businesses.

1268
01:00:20.416 --> 01:00:20.676
Steve?

1269
01:00:20.876 --> 01:00:23.836
Is there any sort of legal requirement

1270
01:00:24.936 --> 01:00:25.696
for that period,

1271
01:00:26.976 --> 01:00:27.156
Michelle?

1272
01:00:27.276 --> 01:00:30.376
No specific legal requirement. It is a business judgment of the board.

1273
01:00:31.036 --> 01:00:31.516
10 days.

1274
01:00:32.276 --> 01:00:32.876
Yeah.

1275
01:00:34.076 --> 01:00:37.196
Yeah, I think that's probably correct because the

1276
01:00:37.296 --> 01:00:39.576
fines, Michelle, would continue

1277
01:00:40.896 --> 01:00:44.476
if they paid on the 10th day, the fines would continue up until the

1278
01:00:45.336 --> 01:00:46.816
or through the ninth day, correct?

1279
01:00:47.076 --> 01:00:47.196
Yes.

1280
01:00:47.756 --> 01:00:47.856
So

1281
01:00:50.296 --> 01:00:53.705
I would think that, yeah, we have to have a shorter

1282
01:00:54.296 --> 01:00:57.856
timeframe just for the purpose of, if nothing else,

1283
01:00:58.276 --> 01:01:02.175
keep the fine down for the individual, force him to or he or she

1284
01:01:02.196 --> 01:01:04.796
to do that. Michelle, I got one quick question.

1285
01:01:06.096 --> 01:01:09.936
In the second paragraph there, that says, "The district will have no

1286
01:01:10.096 --> 01:01:13.986
other alternative but to seek." Is there any reason why it's stated

1287
01:01:13.986 --> 01:01:17.856
that way versus the district will seek all available

1288
01:01:17.896 --> 01:01:19.796
remedies? Because when you

1289
01:01:21.856 --> 01:01:24.096
indicate that they have no other alternative,

1290
01:01:25.096 --> 01:01:26.856
gosh, one of the alternatives would be

1291
01:01:27.696 --> 01:01:31.436
forgive it, forgive the... And that's not what we're seeking

1292
01:01:31.496 --> 01:01:35.116
here in a demand letter. Is there some reason why it's stated as

1293
01:01:35.196 --> 01:01:35.516
such?

1294
01:01:36.996 --> 01:01:39.916
Nope. It's just a stylistic choice.

1295
01:01:39.996 --> 01:01:42.076
I'm happy to update that to the preferred language.

1296
01:01:43.376 --> 01:01:43.636
To me,

1297
01:01:44.896 --> 01:01:48.316
when I read it, I had that question, but I wanted to defer till today.

1298
01:01:48.396 --> 01:01:51.676
But I would think that we should just state what we plan to do

1299
01:01:51.956 --> 01:01:54.476
versus how we can do all sorts of things.

1300
01:01:54.516 --> 01:01:57.716
But, we're only going to indicate the ones here. Yeah.

1301
01:01:57.756 --> 01:02:00.836
No, it tells the residents we have no other alternative. This is it.

1302
01:02:01.176 --> 01:02:03.756
And it shows they may turn around and say, "Well, to hell with it. Good.

1303
01:02:03.936 --> 01:02:06.915
If you can't do nothing else to me, I'm not going to pay anyway."

1304
01:02:07.695 --> 01:02:08.645
Is that what you're-

1305
01:02:09.896 --> 01:02:10.116
Well-

1306
01:02:10.265 --> 01:02:13.256
... saying? It shows a little bit of weakness in our point.

1307
01:02:13.556 --> 01:02:17.296
That's kind of the way I read it. But if not, I'll go

1308
01:02:17.336 --> 01:02:18.036
with whatever-

1309
01:02:18.556 --> 01:02:18.686
I understand what you mean

1310
01:02:18.686 --> 01:02:19.056
... on that, on that case.

1311
01:02:19.336 --> 01:02:19.836
Yeah.

1312
01:02:20.296 --> 01:02:24.276
It's been... I think it was noting the fact that this is just one step in the

1313
01:02:24.836 --> 01:02:26.816
enforcement steps, right?

1314
01:02:27.026 --> 01:02:27.026
Okay.

1315
01:02:27.036 --> 01:02:30.856
The district does have other alternatives that it'll impose on the

1316
01:02:30.876 --> 01:02:34.856
individual if they are not brought into compliance after receipt of

1317
01:02:34.896 --> 01:02:35.856
this letter.

1318
01:02:35.996 --> 01:02:36.006
Okay.

1319
01:02:36.056 --> 01:02:38.626
But again, it's just a stylistic choice.

1320
01:02:38.696 --> 01:02:40.466
I'm happy to update to the will of the board.

1321
01:02:40.476 --> 01:02:44.436
No, I can live with that. And I think 10 days, I think we have

1322
01:02:44.476 --> 01:02:45.956
to keep it going.

1323
01:02:46.576 --> 01:02:50.416
And I read that same sentence and went, "We are telling them that we're not

1324
01:02:50.436 --> 01:02:51.036
messing around."

1325
01:02:51.896 --> 01:02:54.896
To me, it came across as, "Okay, you haven't done this. Now, this is...

1326
01:02:55.376 --> 01:02:55.876
Here we go."

1327
01:02:56.136 --> 01:02:56.686
Mm-hmm.

1328
01:02:56.736 --> 01:02:59.896
So I didn't read it as being weak. I read it as being strong.

1329
01:02:59.916 --> 01:03:01.336
Yeah. Okay.

1330
01:03:01.356 --> 01:03:05.045
The only question I have, Michelle, is nowhere in this letter,

1331
01:03:05.656 --> 01:03:09.456
because one of the things you said is that they have to call to make

1332
01:03:09.516 --> 01:03:13.376
sure that they have the total amount,

1333
01:03:15.576 --> 01:03:18.846
but there's no phone number.

1334
01:03:18.976 --> 01:03:22.876
I circulated an updated letter via email to the

1335
01:03:22.896 --> 01:03:23.476
board members-

1336
01:03:23.516 --> 01:03:23.526
Oh, okay

1337
01:03:23.576 --> 01:03:27.376
... last night. That includes a sentence that you must contact

1338
01:03:27.396 --> 01:03:31.026
Community Standards at the phone number to verify the current outstanding fees and

1339
01:03:31.096 --> 01:03:32.016
costs prior to payment.

1340
01:03:32.556 --> 01:03:32.736
Okay.

1341
01:03:33.876 --> 01:03:34.235
I'm good.

1342
01:03:34.676 --> 01:03:34.796
So,

1343
01:03:35.616 --> 01:03:36.996
we could go out with that letter now,

1344
01:03:38.216 --> 01:03:40.736
right? Am I correct in needing any other information?

1345
01:03:41.496 --> 01:03:44.336
Nope. That's it. I will update the letter to

1346
01:03:46.576 --> 01:03:50.485
provide 10 business days to respond, and issue to the first four

1347
01:03:50.516 --> 01:03:51.045
recipients.

1348
01:03:52.045 --> 01:03:52.045
Okay.

1349
01:03:52.045 --> 01:03:52.576
And report back.

1350
01:03:53.296 --> 01:03:53.656
Okay.

1351
01:03:53.856 --> 01:03:54.776
We don't need a motion, right?

1352
01:03:56.696 --> 01:03:57.086
And I think,

1353
01:03:58.716 --> 01:04:02.456
it's short. You can take a motion, and then I'll wait to

1354
01:04:03.036 --> 01:04:03.576
after that.

1355
01:04:03.706 --> 01:04:04.616
Okay. Can we have a motion, please?

1356
01:04:05.776 --> 01:04:08.336
A motion that we move forward with the demand letter as presented.

1357
01:04:08.436 --> 01:04:08.656
And

1358
01:04:09.696 --> 01:04:09.956
second?

1359
01:04:10.096 --> 01:04:10.416
Second.

1360
01:04:10.636 --> 01:04:11.296
All in favor?

1361
01:04:11.696 --> 01:04:12.036
Aye.

1362
01:04:12.116 --> 01:04:15.936
Any opposed? Motion passed. Thank you. Michelle, what else?

1363
01:04:16.196 --> 01:04:16.536
Go ahead.

1364
01:04:16.856 --> 01:04:17.186
No, no.

1365
01:04:17.596 --> 01:04:17.916
So-

1366
01:04:19.236 --> 01:04:19.816
No, go ahead. Still-

1367
01:04:19.976 --> 01:04:21.046
Go ahead, Michelle.

1368
01:04:21.046 --> 01:04:21.046
Sorry. Go.

1369
01:04:21.046 --> 01:04:22.026
Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Michelle.

1370
01:04:22.196 --> 01:04:26.056
And so given the 10 business days will run out before the next board

1371
01:04:26.096 --> 01:04:29.576
meeting, I think it is also prudent for us to discuss what the next step would be.

1372
01:04:30.616 --> 01:04:33.905
Whether that's turning it over to a collection agency or

1373
01:04:34.836 --> 01:04:38.746
whether the board would like for the staff to come back

1374
01:04:38.796 --> 01:04:41.256
to the next meeting with what the next steps should be.

1375
01:04:41.396 --> 01:04:45.176
I know Brittany was still working on exploring collection agency

1376
01:04:45.276 --> 01:04:48.736
options for that. And I do want to clarify myself from last board

1377
01:04:48.776 --> 01:04:52.506
meeting. I was assuming that the collection agency services

1378
01:04:52.616 --> 01:04:56.036
fee will be well within or below the purchasing

1379
01:04:56.046 --> 01:05:00.006
threshold amount. I had stated that, we will not need to go

1380
01:05:00.016 --> 01:05:03.416
out to competitively procure, but, just like any other

1381
01:05:03.856 --> 01:05:07.796
maintenance and services that the district competitively procure,

1382
01:05:07.876 --> 01:05:10.996
if it goes over the purchasing threshold,

1383
01:05:11.596 --> 01:05:14.536
we will need to competitively procure.

1384
01:05:14.656 --> 01:05:18.116
I just don't think that based on the amount of the

1385
01:05:18.216 --> 01:05:19.316
outstanding and the

1386
01:05:20.156 --> 01:05:23.096
scope of the engagement, that that'll become necessary.

1387
01:05:24.096 --> 01:05:26.736
So I wanted to clarify myself on the

1388
01:05:28.296 --> 01:05:30.136
brief response that I had.

1389
01:05:32.076 --> 01:05:35.876
So I know Brittany was still exploring some

1390
01:05:35.916 --> 01:05:39.896
collection agency options. I don't know whether she's had any proposals

1391
01:05:41.096 --> 01:05:45.016
ready for you all today. So I'll stop here and turn it over

1392
01:05:45.096 --> 01:05:47.396
to Brittany to give an update on that end.

1393
01:05:48.176 --> 01:05:49.516
Yes. Good morning, board members.

1394
01:05:50.076 --> 01:05:52.276
I do not have any proposals at this time.

1395
01:05:52.876 --> 01:05:56.176
There were two elements that we were looking for when we were

1396
01:05:56.236 --> 01:05:59.908
evaluating... companies that are out there, and

1397
01:06:00.188 --> 01:06:04.008
the most important being that they can handle accruing fines, and not just you turn

1398
01:06:04.068 --> 01:06:07.628
over a flat amount and they seek collection on that flat amount.

1399
01:06:07.688 --> 01:06:08.108
This is

1400
01:06:09.488 --> 01:06:13.208
more in alignment with what some of the code enforcement agencies are

1401
01:06:13.248 --> 01:06:17.068
doing within the state that I've found, where they do have continuously

1402
01:06:17.088 --> 01:06:18.048
accruing fines.

1403
01:06:19.548 --> 01:06:22.088
And then there are two different formats for

1404
01:06:23.468 --> 01:06:24.368
contract terms.

1405
01:06:25.528 --> 01:06:29.418
One being that it's a percentage, an agreed-upon percentage, and the other,

1406
01:06:29.608 --> 01:06:33.208
there are a couple companies that do flat rate amounts, where

1407
01:06:33.248 --> 01:06:36.908
regardless of what the outstanding balance is,

1408
01:06:37.228 --> 01:06:38.928
they're going to collect based on that,

1409
01:06:41.728 --> 01:06:44.568
and for that contract set amount.

1410
01:06:46.388 --> 01:06:50.188
Volume is an issue at the moment. Not saying that these companies

1411
01:06:50.248 --> 01:06:53.248
won't do that, but the contracts that I have found,

1412
01:06:54.608 --> 01:06:58.128
they estimate thousands of accounts per

1413
01:06:58.388 --> 01:06:58.708
year.

1414
01:06:59.068 --> 01:06:59.328
High

1415
01:07:00.288 --> 01:07:00.508
five.

1416
01:07:00.608 --> 01:07:04.428
Because when you look at the county structure, a lot of the

1417
01:07:04.468 --> 01:07:06.508
constitutional offices are involved as well.

1418
01:07:06.648 --> 01:07:08.308
So it might be the clerk of courts office,

1419
01:07:09.268 --> 01:07:12.488
the sheriff, code enforcement, any type of outstanding

1420
01:07:12.868 --> 01:07:14.628
fining agency.

1421
01:07:15.728 --> 01:07:19.028
So we're trying to find something that's the most advantageous.

1422
01:07:19.888 --> 01:07:23.848
Also understanding that some of the utilities within the villages are looking

1423
01:07:23.928 --> 01:07:26.388
at collection opportunities as well.

1424
01:07:27.608 --> 01:07:31.548
So that could benefit District 7, because if we could find

1425
01:07:31.588 --> 01:07:32.328
a solution-

1426
01:07:32.508 --> 01:07:33.248
To piggyback off

1427
01:07:33.288 --> 01:07:37.108
... Yes, and have much higher volume on the utility

1428
01:07:37.228 --> 01:07:38.728
side, you would get a lower

1429
01:07:39.728 --> 01:07:40.048
rate.

1430
01:07:40.268 --> 01:07:40.968
Yes.

1431
01:07:40.998 --> 01:07:43.748
How would that work, Michelle? And we may not be able to answer this, but how would

1432
01:07:43.788 --> 01:07:46.848
that work? Let's say if they don't collect, because a lot of them, they wouldn't

1433
01:07:46.888 --> 01:07:50.768
collect. Do we still have to pay a fee, or

1434
01:07:50.828 --> 01:07:52.988
we only pay a fee when they do collect?

1435
01:07:53.348 --> 01:07:56.167
So that all comes down to the terms... Oh, sorry.

1436
01:07:56.328 --> 01:07:56.908
Go ahead, Michelle.

1437
01:07:57.228 --> 01:08:00.988
No, sorry. Go ahead. I think you and I are on the same path, as

1438
01:08:01.088 --> 01:08:02.988
that's what Brittany was saying-

1439
01:08:03.048 --> 01:08:03.058
Yeah

1440
01:08:03.058 --> 01:08:04.218
... which is a contractual

1441
01:08:05.128 --> 01:08:08.668
term that'll have to be determined based on who we go to hire.

1442
01:08:09.128 --> 01:08:12.388
Some companies will charge a flat rate regardless of collection-

1443
01:08:12.928 --> 01:08:12.948
Mm

1444
01:08:13.008 --> 01:08:16.648
... and some companies will charge a percentage of collected only

1445
01:08:16.848 --> 01:08:20.588
rates. And so if it is important to the board, and I think it will be,

1446
01:08:21.848 --> 01:08:24.748
that they only get a percentage

1447
01:08:26.048 --> 01:08:29.808
at their actual collection efforts, then you can

1448
01:08:29.909 --> 01:08:33.688
direct staff to only entertain proposals where

1449
01:08:33.699 --> 01:08:37.508
the contractual terms will be that the collection agency only

1450
01:08:37.529 --> 01:08:40.829
realizes any sort of service fee if they actually collect.

1451
01:08:41.348 --> 01:08:45.029
Yes, that's where I was going. The only thing is, and Brittany's right,

1452
01:08:45.208 --> 01:08:49.148
with only five of them, I don't know if any company would really even give a damn.

1453
01:08:49.588 --> 01:08:52.588
That may become a problem.

1454
01:08:53.148 --> 01:08:56.829
Thank God we only have five. But yeah. Okay.

1455
01:08:57.468 --> 01:08:58.268
To be continued.

1456
01:08:58.869 --> 01:09:02.588
Yeah. But I agree with that second option, where we only

1457
01:09:03.128 --> 01:09:05.648
pay if they collect. That's going to be tough.

1458
01:09:05.748 --> 01:09:07.248
That's going to be tough to get somebody, but-

1459
01:09:07.668 --> 01:09:11.558
Well, if in fact we can connect with other groups in

1460
01:09:11.648 --> 01:09:12.788
the villages that are doing this-

1461
01:09:13.508 --> 01:09:13.909
Yeah

1462
01:09:13.928 --> 01:09:15.268
... then that solves that problem.

1463
01:09:15.449 --> 01:09:18.048
Yeah, then if we could piggyback off them, that'd be great.

1464
01:09:18.058 --> 01:09:18.829
Yeah, if Sika wants to

1465
01:09:20.068 --> 01:09:22.538
piggyback off ours, we can charge them 10% in addition.

1466
01:09:22.748 --> 01:09:23.628
Yeah, wouldn't that be great?

1467
01:09:24.008 --> 01:09:24.068
Yeah.

1468
01:09:24.468 --> 01:09:25.188
Ed, you got anything?

1469
01:09:25.308 --> 01:09:26.628
No, I agree with that.

1470
01:09:27.088 --> 01:09:27.329
Okay.

1471
01:09:27.489 --> 01:09:28.428
What we're doing here,

1472
01:09:29.348 --> 01:09:33.188
we were talking about initially a lien on the property, and a lot of people

1473
01:09:33.308 --> 01:09:34.029
just so

1474
01:09:34.909 --> 01:09:38.369
don't care. But now we're going to destroy their credit if they don't pay.

1475
01:09:38.888 --> 01:09:42.708
That will catch their attention. We should see a much higher response than a

1476
01:09:42.748 --> 01:09:43.068
lien.

1477
01:09:45.529 --> 01:09:45.928
Hope so.

1478
01:09:46.548 --> 01:09:46.688
Yeah.

1479
01:09:47.148 --> 01:09:51.008
We have to have enforcement of these

1480
01:09:51.029 --> 01:09:52.388
fines, otherwise we're

1481
01:09:53.348 --> 01:09:54.268
a toothless tiger.

1482
01:09:54.448 --> 01:09:58.428
Yeah. Like I said, you don't want to become counterproductive between lawyer fees

1483
01:09:58.488 --> 01:10:02.448
and other fees, and it costs us more to get the

1484
01:10:02.508 --> 01:10:06.488
$1,200 back or $1,500 back. It becomes counterproductive.

1485
01:10:06.588 --> 01:10:07.328
It is what it is.

1486
01:10:07.468 --> 01:10:07.668
Yeah.

1487
01:10:08.368 --> 01:10:12.068
But this is one of those things where it's the same thing with

1488
01:10:12.108 --> 01:10:15.347
feeling bad for a homeowner that bought a house that's out of compliance.

1489
01:10:15.388 --> 01:10:17.248
Well, if you say, "Oh, it's okay for you," then

1490
01:10:18.088 --> 01:10:18.167
you know.

1491
01:10:18.208 --> 01:10:21.028
Yeah. I agree with you. I don't agree with you when it comes to that, because

1492
01:10:21.348 --> 01:10:24.508
people do not know. They don't know what architect review is.

1493
01:10:25.008 --> 01:10:28.688
And they come in, they buy a house, and then they're there seven, eight years

1494
01:10:28.788 --> 01:10:31.488
after, and all of a sudden somebody puts a complaint, and now they got to

1495
01:10:32.908 --> 01:10:35.878
get responsible for something that's out of compliance when they don't know that.

1496
01:10:35.888 --> 01:10:39.648
You buy it from the villages, and you got to assume that everything is right.

1497
01:10:39.748 --> 01:10:41.408
I should say the villages should do-

1498
01:10:41.508 --> 01:10:42.148
You should never assume anything though.

1499
01:10:42.168 --> 01:10:42.737
The village should

1500
01:10:44.668 --> 01:10:48.288
go through every item, every real estate, every house that's going to be

1501
01:10:48.408 --> 01:10:50.788
sold. It should go through some kind of

1502
01:10:51.848 --> 01:10:55.768
survey or whatever you want to call it, and it has to meet

1503
01:10:55.808 --> 01:10:57.408
approval before they sell a house.

1504
01:10:57.648 --> 01:10:58.828
Interestingly enough, every

1505
01:11:00.768 --> 01:11:03.938
piece of real estate that is being sold has a disclosure statement.

1506
01:11:03.948 --> 01:11:04.148
Yeah.

1507
01:11:04.548 --> 01:11:04.768
Mm-hmm.

1508
01:11:05.088 --> 01:11:05.328
So

1509
01:11:06.448 --> 01:11:10.148
you could. Then, like they said, it becomes a civil matter. They didn't disclose.

1510
01:11:10.488 --> 01:11:14.428
But at the end of the day, we still have to say we have rules, we

1511
01:11:14.468 --> 01:11:15.388
have regulations.

1512
01:11:15.428 --> 01:11:15.688
Yeah.

1513
01:11:15.968 --> 01:11:19.908
It's not comfortable to sit here and say, "Sorry, you

1514
01:11:19.968 --> 01:11:20.938
have to take that down."

1515
01:11:21.408 --> 01:11:21.418
Yeah.

1516
01:11:21.428 --> 01:11:24.168
But if you don't, then we're...

1517
01:11:24.348 --> 01:11:25.028
Yeah. No.

1518
01:11:25.228 --> 01:11:27.708
All right. Go find us a nice collection agency.

1519
01:11:28.268 --> 01:11:29.928
Yeah. It'd be good. Like you said-

1520
01:11:30.308 --> 01:11:30.318
Let's find one

1521
01:11:30.318 --> 01:11:33.508
... if we could piggyback off another eight, that'd be great if that happens.

1522
01:11:33.648 --> 01:11:34.108
We can start one.

1523
01:11:34.148 --> 01:11:34.528
Okay.

1524
01:11:36.188 --> 01:11:37.208
Let's move on.

1525
01:11:37.508 --> 01:11:39.708
A 10% fee for anyone who piggybacks. Yeah.

1526
01:11:39.968 --> 01:11:42.807
Yeah. Okay, we're done with old business.

1527
01:11:43.608 --> 01:11:46.598
Michelle, you done? Do we have anything on the agenda? Is that all?

1528
01:11:47.808 --> 01:11:50.988
That's it from me. I'm happy to answer any questions from the board if there are

1529
01:11:51.048 --> 01:11:54.648
any other additional items. But other than that, I'll pass the torch.

1530
01:11:54.968 --> 01:11:57.788
Okay. No questions? Nope. Okay, let's move on.

1531
01:11:58.188 --> 01:11:59.918
Information items only. Financial statements.

1532
01:12:00.848 --> 01:12:01.628
Mr. Chairman.

1533
01:12:01.808 --> 01:12:02.268
Whoa.

1534
01:12:02.348 --> 01:12:05.368
We do have one, and I apologize because it fell under-

1535
01:12:05.428 --> 01:12:05.438
Go ahead

1536
01:12:05.438 --> 01:12:07.948
... it's under old business, but item B

1537
01:12:09.508 --> 01:12:13.348
is the settlement agreement for 1391 Bunker Lane.

1538
01:12:13.888 --> 01:12:14.588
That's case number

1539
01:12:14.688 --> 01:12:18.598
D707-25So a copy of

1540
01:12:18.638 --> 01:12:22.038
the settlement agreement has been drafted by Ms. Rigoni.

1541
01:12:22.138 --> 01:12:23.838
It's included as an attachment.

1542
01:12:24.778 --> 01:12:25.738
Mr. Ellis

1543
01:12:26.638 --> 01:12:30.218
did promptly send a check, and we've held the check

1544
01:12:30.798 --> 01:12:33.758
pending final approval of the board to accept it.

1545
01:12:33.878 --> 01:12:35.138
That's the one we just addressed, right?

1546
01:12:35.188 --> 01:12:35.188
Yeah.

1547
01:12:35.218 --> 01:12:37.118
Is that the one that we just got the payment, the check?

1548
01:12:37.218 --> 01:12:38.358
It was $500-

1549
01:12:38.458 --> 01:12:38.578
Yes

1550
01:12:38.588 --> 01:12:38.978
... or something like that?

1551
01:12:39.338 --> 01:12:39.558
Yes.

1552
01:12:39.588 --> 01:12:39.588
Yeah.

1553
01:12:39.598 --> 01:12:41.238
But we will need a formal motion.

1554
01:12:41.438 --> 01:12:41.448
Okay.

1555
01:12:41.448 --> 01:12:45.158
And the chair will-- It will require signature to the

1556
01:12:45.218 --> 01:12:46.078
settlement agreement.

1557
01:12:46.238 --> 01:12:49.627
Got you. Only thing about that settlement agreement, when we did agree, I know it's

1558
01:12:49.627 --> 01:12:49.998
a little late,

1559
01:12:51.178 --> 01:12:54.458
we should have threw the fees,

1560
01:12:55.098 --> 01:12:59.078
our lawyer fees, and all the other fees on top of that $500.

1561
01:12:59.418 --> 01:13:03.178
Because I think it was almost a wash, right? Michelle, am I correct?

1562
01:13:03.278 --> 01:13:07.258
I think it was $500 we got back, and between all, I think we made

1563
01:13:07.278 --> 01:13:08.758
$75 on the whole deal.

1564
01:13:09.358 --> 01:13:10.298
About 36.

1565
01:13:10.758 --> 01:13:11.598
Whatever the hell it was.

1566
01:13:12.658 --> 01:13:12.668
36.

1567
01:13:12.698 --> 01:13:13.808
Yeah. Yes, it was

1568
01:13:15.038 --> 01:13:15.688
very close to the $36.

1569
01:13:15.698 --> 01:13:19.558
Yeah. So I'm just saying, I'm not saying we're in business to

1570
01:13:19.598 --> 01:13:22.818
make money, but I don't want it, like I said, I don't want it to become

1571
01:13:22.878 --> 01:13:24.598
counterproductive, meaning lose money.

1572
01:13:24.678 --> 01:13:24.818
It's

1573
01:13:25.638 --> 01:13:26.978
residents' money, we should be-

1574
01:13:27.138 --> 01:13:31.038
Yeah. So, next time we got to make sure we put

1575
01:13:31.078 --> 01:13:32.758
the fees on top of anything we

1576
01:13:33.738 --> 01:13:34.098
decide.

1577
01:13:34.138 --> 01:13:35.558
And that was in the letter.

1578
01:13:35.718 --> 01:13:36.398
In the demand letter.

1579
01:13:36.438 --> 01:13:39.738
Yeah. Moving forward, we are going to include in the motion

1580
01:13:39.798 --> 01:13:43.768
explicitly that if there is a settlement amount, it will be that

1581
01:13:43.818 --> 01:13:46.278
in addition to any administrative fees.

1582
01:13:46.498 --> 01:13:49.598
Exactly. That's my point. Thank you. Okay. Do I get a motion?

1583
01:13:49.858 --> 01:13:53.738
Okay. You get a motion that says we should accept this check and that going

1584
01:13:53.858 --> 01:13:57.778
forward for any of these settlements, that is whatever our fines

1585
01:13:57.798 --> 01:13:59.318
are plus the cost of-

1586
01:13:59.598 --> 01:13:59.798
Yeah.

1587
01:14:00.198 --> 01:14:00.538
Second?

1588
01:14:00.758 --> 01:14:01.078
Second.

1589
01:14:01.478 --> 01:14:02.158
All in favor?

1590
01:14:02.738 --> 01:14:02.938
Aye.

1591
01:14:03.708 --> 01:14:03.708
Aye.

1592
01:14:03.738 --> 01:14:06.797
Any opposed? Seeing none, motion passes.

1593
01:14:08.438 --> 01:14:09.118
Okay.

1594
01:14:10.138 --> 01:14:12.698
Now we're back to old business, updates.

1595
01:14:13.998 --> 01:14:16.398
We're done with that. Everything's good with that? Good.

1596
01:14:16.998 --> 01:14:20.418
Information items only. Any questions on any of them items on information?

1597
01:14:22.198 --> 01:14:23.258
Surprises? Anything?

1598
01:14:23.538 --> 01:14:23.638
No.

1599
01:14:23.878 --> 01:14:24.018
No.

1600
01:14:25.118 --> 01:14:25.298
Good.

1601
01:14:25.978 --> 01:14:27.978
No. I've got something in-

1602
01:14:28.638 --> 01:14:28.738
Yeah

1603
01:14:28.998 --> 01:14:29.538
Oh

1604
01:14:29.958 --> 01:14:31.268
... continuing.

1605
01:14:32.178 --> 01:14:33.618
District manager report?

1606
01:14:34.258 --> 01:14:35.568
Yes. Thank you, board members.

1607
01:14:36.458 --> 01:14:40.338
Mr. Thomas Major is here, who is our director of customer service.

1608
01:14:41.038 --> 01:14:43.778
He's going to step through a presentation on our new

1609
01:14:45.418 --> 01:14:47.018
communication platform, SailThru.

1610
01:14:49.178 --> 01:14:52.978
Good morning. Thomas Major, customer service, and thank you for the opportunity to

1611
01:14:53.018 --> 01:14:56.658
present today. What I'm here to share is a significant step forward in how we

1612
01:14:56.678 --> 01:15:00.618
communicate with our residents, the launch of our SailThru e-notification platform.

1613
01:15:01.758 --> 01:15:04.938
I'd like to start with a quick overview of what this platform does.

1614
01:15:06.958 --> 01:15:10.798
At its core, SailThru allows us to centralize communication across all

1615
01:15:10.838 --> 01:15:12.398
district departments into one system.

1616
01:15:12.798 --> 01:15:16.278
This creates consistency, improves coordination, and ensures residents

1617
01:15:16.758 --> 01:15:18.518
receive clear and timely information.

1618
01:15:20.058 --> 01:15:21.998
One of the key benefits is targeted outreach.

1619
01:15:22.738 --> 01:15:26.378
We can send messages to specific groups by district, service area, or

1620
01:15:26.478 --> 01:15:30.188
impacted residents, rather than sending broad, one-size-fits-all

1621
01:15:30.278 --> 01:15:30.887
communication.

1622
01:15:32.558 --> 01:15:36.158
It also supports both scheduled and real-time notifications, such as boil water

1623
01:15:36.198 --> 01:15:38.058
notices, while giving us engagement data,

1624
01:15:39.018 --> 01:15:41.238
so we can continuously improve how we communicate.

1625
01:15:43.278 --> 01:15:47.018
To make sure this was implemented effectively, we followed a structured

1626
01:15:47.098 --> 01:15:47.858
rollout approach.

1627
01:15:50.318 --> 01:15:53.918
We approached implementation in phases, starting with defining requirements and

1628
01:15:53.938 --> 01:15:57.618
building workflows, then moving into data preparation, testing, and staff

1629
01:15:57.658 --> 01:16:01.358
training. From there, we will conduct a limited rollout to monitor

1630
01:16:01.438 --> 01:16:05.218
performance, address any early issues, and refine the system

1631
01:16:05.258 --> 01:16:06.508
before full implementation.

1632
01:16:07.798 --> 01:16:10.818
This phased approach ensures stability and long-term success.

1633
01:16:12.078 --> 01:16:15.598
With the system in place, our focus shifts to what we want to achieve with it.

1634
01:16:16.498 --> 01:16:17.978
Our objectives are straightforward.

1635
01:16:19.398 --> 01:16:23.248
First, improve clarity, consistency, so residents can easily understand and

1636
01:16:23.338 --> 01:16:24.197
act on information.

1637
01:16:25.418 --> 01:16:29.078
Second, shift to more proactive communication, making sure residents are

1638
01:16:29.118 --> 01:16:31.318
informed ahead of time rather than after the fact.

1639
01:16:32.878 --> 01:16:36.378
And third, establish a modern, scalable communication framework that supports

1640
01:16:36.498 --> 01:16:37.238
long-term growth.

1641
01:16:38.838 --> 01:16:42.398
To support this, we've also introduced a more structured communication cadence.

1642
01:16:44.598 --> 01:16:46.788
We've created a predictable rhythm for communication.

1643
01:16:47.618 --> 01:16:50.888
Residents receive a what's happening update on Mondays, focused on events and

1644
01:16:50.978 --> 01:16:54.698
community activity. On Thursdays, the district bulletin will provide

1645
01:16:54.758 --> 01:16:57.398
more targeted operational updates.

1646
01:16:57.438 --> 01:17:01.418
In addition, quarterly publications will highlight key departments such as district

1647
01:17:01.458 --> 01:17:05.238
property management, public safety, community watch, and golf operations.

1648
01:17:06.718 --> 01:17:10.078
This consistency helps set expectations and builds trust with residents.

1649
01:17:11.438 --> 01:17:15.277
Beyond delivery, this platform also gives us valuable insight into performance.

1650
01:17:17.298 --> 01:17:21.008
SailThru provides visibility into engagement such as open rates, click-through

1651
01:17:21.078 --> 01:17:23.858
rates, and audience trends over time.

1652
01:17:23.898 --> 01:17:27.488
It also ensures consistent communication across all districts and

1653
01:17:27.518 --> 01:17:31.158
improves coordination during routine updates and emergency situations.

1654
01:17:32.338 --> 01:17:35.778
From a governance perspective, this allows us to provide standardized reporting to

1655
01:17:35.818 --> 01:17:39.098
leadership and boards, supporting transparency and informed

1656
01:17:39.138 --> 01:17:40.038
decision-making.

1657
01:17:42.218 --> 01:17:44.958
And ultimately, this leads to long-term value for the organization.

1658
01:17:46.518 --> 01:17:50.138
This platform strengthens trust by delivering clear and consistent communication.

1659
01:17:51.218 --> 01:17:54.998
It supports scalable growth as the district continues to evolve, and it

1660
01:17:55.058 --> 01:17:57.818
provides the data needed to guide strategic decisions.

1661
01:17:59.158 --> 01:18:02.258
In short, this is about building a more efficient, transparent, and trusted

1662
01:18:02.278 --> 01:18:03.838
communication system for the future.

1663
01:18:05.718 --> 01:18:08.118
Thank you for your time today, and I'm happy to answer any questions.

1664
01:18:09.178 --> 01:18:12.498
I see that they had the article, well, not article, but it was in today's paper,

1665
01:18:12.578 --> 01:18:14.738
anybody can read it, on this same subject.

1666
01:18:15.078 --> 01:18:19.042
And so in The Daily Sun, they actually weretelling

1667
01:18:19.082 --> 01:18:21.182
people this is coming out. So at least they know.

1668
01:18:21.302 --> 01:18:22.042
Yeah, it was very good.

1669
01:18:22.742 --> 01:18:25.602
So how many calls have you gotten to say it's a scam?

1670
01:18:26.482 --> 01:18:28.562
So for this specific platform, none yet.

1671
01:18:29.282 --> 01:18:32.342
So we expect that to happen a little bit towards the end of this week.

1672
01:18:32.442 --> 01:18:36.042
At the end of this week, we will actually start the initial 10-day ramp-up.

1673
01:18:36.622 --> 01:18:40.552
The first email that everyone will receive, in batches,

1674
01:18:40.642 --> 01:18:42.822
will be our annual report that we just published.

1675
01:18:43.502 --> 01:18:46.162
With that, we put inside that email body, "Hey,

1676
01:18:47.342 --> 01:18:49.442
welcome to the new email notification system.

1677
01:18:49.482 --> 01:18:50.482
This is what it's going to look like."

1678
01:18:51.342 --> 01:18:55.202
We want to make sure that we are rolling it out slow, that everyone does understand

1679
01:18:55.222 --> 01:18:56.662
that it comes from a trusted source.

1680
01:18:57.182 --> 01:19:01.042
So we haven't received any calls yet, but I anticipate that it will happen.

1681
01:19:01.142 --> 01:19:03.822
But we're not only just putting it out in the email, we're also going to be having

1682
01:19:03.842 --> 01:19:07.562
it in our weekly bulletin. We're going to have it on the website, the what's

1683
01:19:07.582 --> 01:19:11.342
happening post, and any other avenue that I can possibly think of to ensure that

1684
01:19:11.382 --> 01:19:12.402
residents feel safe from it.

1685
01:19:12.842 --> 01:19:14.942
How many people can send messages?

1686
01:19:15.062 --> 01:19:15.191
Are

1687
01:19:17.322 --> 01:19:21.142
messages that are sent out regarding a service interruption or something, does that

1688
01:19:21.202 --> 01:19:25.162
go through one person, or is there a half dozen people

1689
01:19:25.222 --> 01:19:26.562
within the district that can-

1690
01:19:27.262 --> 01:19:27.852
Push the button

1691
01:19:27.922 --> 01:19:31.362
... initiate a message to send out, or how's that working?

1692
01:19:32.202 --> 01:19:32.642
No. So

1693
01:19:33.822 --> 01:19:37.462
Mr. Major can address that, but there are designated staff members that have that

1694
01:19:37.502 --> 01:19:40.762
level of access from a hierarchy standpoint

1695
01:19:40.882 --> 01:19:44.522
of who has those level of permissions to send out.

1696
01:19:44.602 --> 01:19:44.842
Oh.

1697
01:19:44.902 --> 01:19:47.642
If you're talking about something that we need to get out immediately-

1698
01:19:47.702 --> 01:19:47.822
Mm-hmm

1699
01:19:47.982 --> 01:19:49.802
... that's going to go through a different process.

1700
01:19:50.742 --> 01:19:52.762
As Ms. Wilson stated, there is a hierarchy for it.

1701
01:19:53.422 --> 01:19:57.282
My staff, the communications department, we are the last final end all

1702
01:19:57.322 --> 01:20:01.162
be all with it. So it will usually come from up top, come to us, and then

1703
01:20:01.202 --> 01:20:02.002
by that point,

1704
01:20:02.862 --> 01:20:06.082
yeah, it's probably gone through three or four different people who approve the

1705
01:20:06.142 --> 01:20:09.942
message that's going out. And then my department will push the button to

1706
01:20:09.982 --> 01:20:10.522
send it out.

1707
01:20:12.422 --> 01:20:15.462
And what's the number of people that already registered to get emails?

1708
01:20:16.062 --> 01:20:19.922
So I actually am... I've been asking for that question for

1709
01:20:20.062 --> 01:20:23.662
probably the last two days now. So the reason I don't have the actual number right

1710
01:20:23.722 --> 01:20:27.292
here in front of me is because the number that we thought it was,

1711
01:20:28.062 --> 01:20:30.122
is much different than what it actually is right now.

1712
01:20:30.182 --> 01:20:34.142
So one of the main reasons that we even started to do

1713
01:20:34.182 --> 01:20:37.222
this, during our phase two implementation of the website, is

1714
01:20:38.642 --> 01:20:42.042
to unsubscribe for the resident is such a pain.

1715
01:20:42.222 --> 01:20:46.102
It's a process. They can't just go ahead and click unsubscribe, and

1716
01:20:46.122 --> 01:20:47.122
then they're off of the

1717
01:20:48.262 --> 01:20:51.942
mailing list. Unfortunately, they have to call in or email, and then it goes from

1718
01:20:52.062 --> 01:20:54.282
us into TSG, and then it's a whole process.

1719
01:20:54.862 --> 01:20:58.582
So we try to stay on top of that as best as

1720
01:20:58.662 --> 01:21:02.542
possible. So when we switched, and one of the best reasons of picking

1721
01:21:02.602 --> 01:21:05.642
SailThru, is that it's all in the resident's hands now.

1722
01:21:05.682 --> 01:21:09.102
They get to pick not only what they want to be subscribed to, what

1723
01:21:09.162 --> 01:21:12.502
notifications they're getting, but they can unsubscribe from all by the click of a

1724
01:21:12.542 --> 01:21:16.362
button. So when we were transferring every email over, we

1725
01:21:16.402 --> 01:21:20.322
realized that there were emails that just weren't even in existence anymore.

1726
01:21:20.522 --> 01:21:22.862
There were emails that were either doubled or bots.

1727
01:21:22.922 --> 01:21:25.442
Sorry, not bots, but doubled from

1728
01:21:27.042 --> 01:21:30.762
wanting to put... They changed their email, and they forget to notify us to take it

1729
01:21:30.802 --> 01:21:34.622
off. So the real number is actually much smaller than the number that they

1730
01:21:34.702 --> 01:21:35.922
had. So, but-

1731
01:21:35.962 --> 01:21:39.642
You don't have a way to purge out the people that either passed away or moved away.

1732
01:21:40.462 --> 01:21:40.842
I got it.

1733
01:21:41.062 --> 01:21:44.722
Yeah, we do, but it's a very long process, which is what we're actually currently

1734
01:21:44.762 --> 01:21:45.442
doing right now.

1735
01:21:46.122 --> 01:21:47.562
Yeah. That's a process.

1736
01:21:47.642 --> 01:21:47.762
Yeah.

1737
01:21:47.822 --> 01:21:51.452
Yeah. So your figures are really off, especially the way our turnover is in the

1738
01:21:51.502 --> 01:21:51.902
villages.

1739
01:21:52.522 --> 01:21:52.662
Mm-hmm.

1740
01:21:52.702 --> 01:21:53.281
Yeah.

1741
01:21:54.722 --> 01:21:55.292
Any questions?

1742
01:21:56.582 --> 01:22:00.222
So has the billing department started using a different email,

1743
01:22:01.102 --> 01:22:04.842
a different format or something? Because I had- For utility and

1744
01:22:04.882 --> 01:22:08.062
amenity bills? Yes. We did get a number of inquiries.

1745
01:22:08.622 --> 01:22:10.962
The answer is no. We still use Invoice Cloud

1746
01:22:12.142 --> 01:22:15.502
to email out and, well, generate and email out those bills.

1747
01:22:16.242 --> 01:22:19.482
I do understand they changed their communication.

1748
01:22:19.842 --> 01:22:23.582
So when it comes to... No. The short answer is no,

1749
01:22:23.802 --> 01:22:26.622
nothing's changed. What happened was Invoice Cloud,

1750
01:22:27.562 --> 01:22:31.282
the residents who have been receiving that email stating, "Hey, your new

1751
01:22:31.322 --> 01:22:35.181
invoice is available to see," should have been receiving that email from

1752
01:22:35.242 --> 01:22:35.722
the start.

1753
01:22:35.982 --> 01:22:36.842
And they weren't.

1754
01:22:36.862 --> 01:22:40.522
And they were not. So we looked into it, and we got with

1755
01:22:40.582 --> 01:22:43.862
Invoice Cloud, and we found out on their end,

1756
01:22:44.622 --> 01:22:47.762
I don't know if it was a system update or if they just finally hit the button to

1757
01:22:47.822 --> 01:22:49.582
actually do what it was supposed to be doing, but

1758
01:22:51.382 --> 01:22:52.102
it is now

1759
01:22:53.022 --> 01:22:55.622
where residents who should be getting the email are getting that email.

1760
01:22:55.682 --> 01:22:57.602
So I put it out inside our what's happening.

1761
01:22:57.702 --> 01:22:58.902
I've also put it out in

1762
01:23:00.022 --> 01:23:01.542
the weekly bulletin, I believe, as well.

1763
01:23:02.202 --> 01:23:05.222
We're informing the residents that this is actually not a scam.

1764
01:23:05.562 --> 01:23:05.592
Right.

1765
01:23:05.982 --> 01:23:08.562
Because we are getting quite a few calls that it is-

1766
01:23:08.582 --> 01:23:11.442
When I asked about scams, that was what I was thinking about.

1767
01:23:11.882 --> 01:23:12.022
Yeah.

1768
01:23:12.362 --> 01:23:14.822
I've had a few neighbors knock on my door and say-

1769
01:23:15.462 --> 01:23:15.702
Mm-hmm

1770
01:23:15.802 --> 01:23:19.662
... "I think this is a scam." And I was like, "No, I think that you're just getting

1771
01:23:19.702 --> 01:23:20.701
one from..."

1772
01:23:21.642 --> 01:23:22.462
Thank you.

1773
01:23:22.522 --> 01:23:22.742
Yep.

1774
01:23:24.062 --> 01:23:24.802
Any other questions?

1775
01:23:25.282 --> 01:23:26.022
Mm-mm. I'm good.

1776
01:23:26.342 --> 01:23:27.102
Awesome. Thank you very much.

1777
01:23:27.302 --> 01:23:27.662
Thank you.

1778
01:23:27.842 --> 01:23:28.582
Good luck with that.

1779
01:23:29.902 --> 01:23:30.362
Yeah.

1780
01:23:30.402 --> 01:23:32.522
Can't wait to see the conviction.

1781
01:23:33.562 --> 01:23:34.102
Okay.

1782
01:23:35.082 --> 01:23:35.562
I love it.

1783
01:23:36.442 --> 01:23:39.982
Okay. District council reports. Do you have anything, Michelle?

1784
01:23:41.622 --> 01:23:45.322
I do not have anything more to update you on today, but I'm happy to answer any

1785
01:23:45.362 --> 01:23:45.762
questions.

1786
01:23:46.442 --> 01:23:50.382
Thank you, Michelle. Now good job on the letters and trying to recoup

1787
01:23:50.422 --> 01:23:51.382
our money. Thank you.

1788
01:23:52.262 --> 01:23:54.902
Supervisors comments. Let's go with Ed. Project-wide.

1789
01:23:55.702 --> 01:23:59.562
Really, the only thing, and it was covered in our, basically,

1790
01:23:59.622 --> 01:24:03.102
budget, the big issue is that we're going to get hit with a

1791
01:24:03.222 --> 01:24:05.842
2% increase in our

1792
01:24:06.642 --> 01:24:08.542
project-wide expenditures,

1793
01:24:09.522 --> 01:24:13.282
fees every month, and that's projected out for the next

1794
01:24:13.782 --> 01:24:16.922
five years or so. But that was the main topic, and

1795
01:24:17.422 --> 01:24:19.742
basically, it was covered in our budget presentation.

1796
01:24:20.242 --> 01:24:23.942
Ed, they projected 3% for the next four years coming.

1797
01:24:24.042 --> 01:24:24.372
2%.

1798
01:24:25.022 --> 01:24:25.432
2%.

1799
01:24:25.432 --> 01:24:25.882
2% each year.

1800
01:24:27.354 --> 01:24:27.734
Steve?

1801
01:24:29.034 --> 01:24:31.454
Yeah, well, continuing on with the executive golf.

1802
01:24:32.394 --> 01:24:34.704
So we did that. We did that.

1803
01:24:35.894 --> 01:24:36.434
We should.

1804
01:24:38.374 --> 01:24:39.054
Silver Lake,

1805
01:24:40.254 --> 01:24:41.814
over on the prehistoric side,

1806
01:24:42.974 --> 01:24:45.354
that course condition

1807
01:24:46.354 --> 01:24:50.174
is garbage. It needs to be shut down, and people

1808
01:24:50.184 --> 01:24:52.834
need to be held accountable for its condition.

1809
01:24:55.634 --> 01:24:59.034
I mean, the fairways were smoother than the greens and had more grass.

1810
01:24:59.774 --> 01:25:01.044
On an executive, and I'm sorry-

1811
01:25:01.094 --> 01:25:01.994
On executive, yes.

1812
01:25:02.634 --> 01:25:05.814
I have to inquire about that because I don't have that information readily

1813
01:25:05.874 --> 01:25:06.564
available for golf courses.

1814
01:25:06.584 --> 01:25:07.093
Oh, I'm sorry.

1815
01:25:08.134 --> 01:25:09.814
And another executive, Pelican,

1816
01:25:11.134 --> 01:25:13.514
which I brought up a couple meetings ago.

1817
01:25:14.594 --> 01:25:17.114
That has been very well addressed.

1818
01:25:18.154 --> 01:25:20.614
Course is in excellent condition. They've done a good job.

1819
01:25:20.654 --> 01:25:24.454
And in fact, last time I played it, ran into a guy who was even checking moisture

1820
01:25:24.494 --> 01:25:25.354
on the green. So,

1821
01:25:26.934 --> 01:25:29.364
they did provide appropriate attention.

1822
01:25:29.394 --> 01:25:32.374
I figure if I'm going to complain about things that are wrong, I need to point out

1823
01:25:32.493 --> 01:25:35.174
things that are right, and they've done a good job on that.

1824
01:25:37.174 --> 01:25:40.014
Thank you. I'll get an update pertaining to Silver Lake.

1825
01:25:40.654 --> 01:25:40.954
Okay.

1826
01:25:42.014 --> 01:25:43.394
And it's not just lack of water.

1827
01:25:43.774 --> 01:25:43.914
Rick,

1828
01:25:44.714 --> 01:25:45.653
Julianne?

1829
01:25:46.254 --> 01:25:47.154
I was at the

1830
01:25:48.194 --> 01:25:49.514
financial

1831
01:25:50.554 --> 01:25:51.024
every two months-

1832
01:25:51.094 --> 01:25:51.424
Committee

1833
01:25:51.534 --> 01:25:52.694
... to go and see what they're doing with our money.

1834
01:25:53.334 --> 01:25:53.394
Mm-hmm.

1835
01:25:53.474 --> 01:25:57.074
And they are continuing to

1836
01:25:57.154 --> 01:25:58.324
stay at or above

1837
01:26:00.634 --> 01:26:01.914
the rate. They have

1838
01:26:05.594 --> 01:26:07.674
a portfolio of

1839
01:26:10.454 --> 01:26:13.214
good quality things, but they'd like them to be better.

1840
01:26:13.974 --> 01:26:17.114
So, like in March, when the market tanked,

1841
01:26:18.094 --> 01:26:21.574
they moved that money over and bought high-quality

1842
01:26:22.314 --> 01:26:24.674
bonds that were on fire sale.

1843
01:26:26.574 --> 01:26:29.554
So they are continuing to watch that performance

1844
01:26:30.514 --> 01:26:34.374
and making... Really, considering all of the

1845
01:26:34.434 --> 01:26:35.594
things that are going on in the world,

1846
01:26:36.934 --> 01:26:38.434
they're staying ahead of the game.

1847
01:26:38.794 --> 01:26:42.514
But we got less income. We noticed when we did the budget, our

1848
01:26:42.574 --> 01:26:43.934
income from

1849
01:26:45.094 --> 01:26:46.833
interest and everything went down this year.

1850
01:26:47.854 --> 01:26:51.814
Which is kind of strange because the stock market technically is in

1851
01:26:51.834 --> 01:26:52.434
good shape.

1852
01:26:53.454 --> 01:26:57.204
So when she said that our

1853
01:26:57.234 --> 01:27:00.854
interest that we got in for this year went down, and the stock market technically

1854
01:27:00.894 --> 01:27:02.374
hit the high, and it's still very high.

1855
01:27:02.834 --> 01:27:06.514
It's only a couple hundred away from the max, to the highest.

1856
01:27:07.054 --> 01:27:07.434
Yeah.

1857
01:27:07.754 --> 01:27:07.994
Yeah.

1858
01:27:08.874 --> 01:27:10.174
How well are they doing?

1859
01:27:10.474 --> 01:27:11.254
They're doing fine.

1860
01:27:11.274 --> 01:27:11.774
Ah.

1861
01:27:11.834 --> 01:27:14.294
I mean, the information was valid, and it was good.

1862
01:27:14.334 --> 01:27:17.674
But when they talk about interest, do we have accounts on the side that are in a

1863
01:27:17.714 --> 01:27:21.434
bank that those interest rates aren't going? There's a whole lot of stuff going.

1864
01:27:22.214 --> 01:27:23.934
I just was happy to see that

1865
01:27:24.854 --> 01:27:26.374
we are staying ahead of inflation.

1866
01:27:27.254 --> 01:27:29.354
Well, I don't know about that. In our budget, we weren't.

1867
01:27:29.994 --> 01:27:30.154
But

1868
01:27:31.174 --> 01:27:32.174
not everything's a budget.

1869
01:27:32.574 --> 01:27:36.254
Yeah. I'm not saying no. I'm just saying in our budget, our income went

1870
01:27:36.334 --> 01:27:39.414
down. But the stock market's up, and I know we diversify.

1871
01:27:39.474 --> 01:27:41.374
I know we have money in stock. I know that.

1872
01:27:41.594 --> 01:27:45.004
Okay. So we've got capital improvement funds that are in some other-

1873
01:27:45.054 --> 01:27:46.454
Yeah, here she comes.

1874
01:27:46.534 --> 01:27:47.574
Oh, here we go.

1875
01:27:47.594 --> 01:27:48.174
I'm going to come sit.

1876
01:27:48.194 --> 01:27:49.654
Let me have a little piggy fence on this.

1877
01:27:49.774 --> 01:27:53.454
I just wanted to preface, we are budgeting less income next

1878
01:27:53.514 --> 01:27:57.494
fiscal year for '26, '27, based on the uncertainty,

1879
01:27:57.574 --> 01:28:01.514
not affecting '25, '26. But when we budget, we don't want you

1880
01:28:01.594 --> 01:28:04.894
to have to rely on that interest income because it's not guaranteed.

1881
01:28:04.974 --> 01:28:07.654
So we try to be very conservative with our budgeting on that.

1882
01:28:07.974 --> 01:28:11.774
So we are budgeting lower for the out years based on where things are

1883
01:28:11.814 --> 01:28:12.174
right now.

1884
01:28:12.274 --> 01:28:16.214
Yeah, but my concern is it went down from last year in the stock market,

1885
01:28:16.254 --> 01:28:18.814
and interest rates are really not that bad.

1886
01:28:19.474 --> 01:28:22.553
You would think we'd be the same or higher. That was my only concern.

1887
01:28:22.894 --> 01:28:22.964
Understood.

1888
01:28:22.974 --> 01:28:23.454
You would think.

1889
01:28:25.554 --> 01:28:26.014
You know?

1890
01:28:27.254 --> 01:28:29.534
Understood. Just wanted to make sure that we were-

1891
01:28:29.594 --> 01:28:31.154
We have to stop spending it so it can earn it.

1892
01:28:32.494 --> 01:28:34.214
Okay. I know. I'm just saying.

1893
01:28:34.354 --> 01:28:36.974
All right.

1894
01:28:37.074 --> 01:28:38.414
Okay. Any other questions?

1895
01:28:38.954 --> 01:28:39.834
Motion to adjourn.

1896
01:28:40.374 --> 01:28:40.414
Second.

1897
01:28:40.474 --> 01:28:42.914
Okay. Do I get a motion?

1898
01:28:43.773 --> 01:28:43.914
Yes.

1899
01:28:43.994 --> 01:28:44.454
To adjourn.

1900
01:28:44.534 --> 01:28:45.134
You've already had it.

1901
01:28:46.034 --> 01:28:46.773
Do I get a second?

1902
01:28:47.034 --> 01:28:47.174
Yeah.

1903
01:28:47.994 --> 01:28:49.194
All in favor?

1904
01:28:49.554 --> 01:28:49.814
Aye.

1905
01:28:49.914 --> 01:28:50.214
Aye.

1906
01:28:50.774 --> 01:28:51.223
Let's go home