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I called the order, uh, district seven board meeting for,

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uh, September 4th, 2025.

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Uh, roll call. All supervisors are present.

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Um, uh, please stand.

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We do a pleasure, allegiance,

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and then we're gonna do a moment and of silence.

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Right at the pleasure. Okay. Thank you.

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The United States of America.

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And do the Republic for which stand

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Individual Liberty.

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Justice for all.

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Please seated.

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We got a very nice crowd.

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I wanna thank everybody for coming. I appreciate it.

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All attendees, um, when anything that's on the agenda,

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police, we will have, you have to, and you have an item

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or subject that's on the agenda.

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We have to wait for us to get onto that subject,

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so you have to wait for that.

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But anything that's not on the agenda, please, if you'd like

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to speak now, please raise your hand.

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You can come up. Anybody got any subject

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that's not on the agenda?

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Okay. Saying none. We'll move on.

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Um, I would do, we have, um, consent, agenda

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and motion for approval for consent.

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Agenda is a motion to approve all recommended actions.

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All matters on the consent agenda are considered routine

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and no discussion is required

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unless desired by the board supervisors

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or members of the public.

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And we have a few issues.

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It is approval of minutes, district seven,

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property casual assurance for a fiscal year, 20 25, 26,

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and seventh, seventh Amendment, amendment to

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interlock agreement for the architect review committee.

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Motion to approve the consent agenda. Second.

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I Good. I got a quick question on this. Go ahead. Good.

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What is, what

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Is the coverage for cyber liability?

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I, I don't, and then the P-O-L-E-P-L-I.

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So the, your property casualty insurance. Yeah.

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That's in the event that you had any type of, um,

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cyber related, uh, crime

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or, um, you were harmed in

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that effect from an economic standpoint,

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you could file a claim through insurance.

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Do We even have or own any computers

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or anything for which that would we would ever be able

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to file a claim against or for

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You Have email? Yeah.

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You, you do have email accounts that each,

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that is designated to each of the board supervisors.

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So in the event, any type of action occurred through that,

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um, whether there was a, a phishing scam

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or spoofing, anything of that nature, um,

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you could file a claim against that.

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And how's that? God,

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That's a, that's a huge portion of, yeah.

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I mean, 1800 bucks.

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Unfortunately, that area has become very sophisticated in

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terms of, um, cyber related crimes

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and, uh, scams.

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So certainly that's something that we would recommend

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that all, um, elected boards have in place.

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Have we had the problem with this in the, in, in the past?

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It is just a new, obviously it's a new issue, but, uh, why?

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It just came up. Uh, is there

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A reason? No, no. You've, you've

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had that in place. Okay.

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Um, it's, it's, it's really for your protection so

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that in the event an event occurs, um,

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we have had isolated incidents in other districts

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where we have tapped into that Okay.

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And filed a claim. That's

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What I, Um, and it,

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and it's my understanding that it also covers incidents like

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fraudulent wire, um, transactions.

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Yes. Um, and that is a real, um, risk

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that other districts have faced recently as well with all

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of the cyber hackers.

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Thank you. And the other thing is,

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it's not us necessarily,

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but somebody could pick our city, uh,

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our district email

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and use it as a spoof on to send emails

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to people outside of us.

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And then they think that we're recommending it

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and they fall for it and narrow out money

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And correct Our name that was on it,

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even though we never did it.

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Mm-hmm. Redirecting payments, things of that nature. Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm not worried about what they're sending me.

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I just deleted, but yeah, it's funny.

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I just, but we had this before. We're just updating it.

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Okay. Any other questions on the,

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Just one quick, uh, we do have bare metal

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recovery capability, right?

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Sorry, can you repeat that? We do have bare metal

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recovery ability. Correct.

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Bare metal Using the sophisticated,

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uh, I'm using some of those.

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In other words, you get slammed down

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and we can reload everything as of, uh,

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Oh, computer stuff.

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A backup.

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Yes. Reload everything.

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Have within 24 hours and have everything up to date.

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Yes. We have backup and recovery in place.

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That's part of you through your Office 365 email account.

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That's more than just backup and recovery.

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This would involve being able to put all the software

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and hardware programs back on the system.

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And along with bringing in all the historic data.

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That's correct. Yeah. You have that recover. Go ahead.

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I'm thinking you're talking about spoofing beer metal on.

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Okay. Uh, another one real quick question.

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Uh, maybe not formed by c the subject is on the agenda

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for almost three different occasions on the, um,

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architect review committee, interlock agreement,

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the Seventh Amendment, what's,

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gimme some details on why we doing it.

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What's the details on that?

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So that will allow District six to, um,

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leave the Architectural Review Committee.

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Um, so essentially right now, district six is, has

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a volunteer space on the a RC committee.

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Um, however, they have had a vacancy in

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excess of six months.

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Um, they just have not been able to secure any volunteers

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for their alternate or primary position.

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Mm-hmm. Um, so they are moving towards the paid

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architectural review officer, where essentially they

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enter into a contract with a engineer architect

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that is going to review their applications.

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But in order to do that, they need consent, um, from each

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of the participating parties for them

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to leave the, the committee. Does

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That affect our program rata share of the cost

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for running the, uh, a RC over the year?

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It will just be split amongst the participating parties.

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Um, however, like your legal expenses are already removed

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from that, um, pro rata share

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with a different legal counsel Yeah.

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And level of participation.

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Yeah. That, that, that, tell me if I'm right

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or wrong, Brenda, what happened would be

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because they all, all the

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other districts have the same attorney.

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It's shared attorney fees. Yeah.

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But course we have a separate attorney.

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Uh, our is, so it doesn't apply. Okay.

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And I, I believe all the genesis is for, you know,

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the district six to Oh.

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To be excused. The form

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of the amendment itself will allow any other district,

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including District seven, to, um, be removed from the,

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the group should the district choose to do so.

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Okay. Beautiful. Okay. Now, do we get a motion?

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Motion to approve the consent agenda? Okay. A second. Still.

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Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Seeing none.

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Thank you. Okay. Uh, public hearing.

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Good morning. Brandy Cook budget.

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I'm here today to request adoption

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of resolution 2025 dash zero seven

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to prove your fiscal year 25 26.

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Uh, final budget for District seven Board.

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As you know, the board of supervisors held your public

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budget workshops on May 15th, and reviewed

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and discussed in detail your 25 26 recommended budget,

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five year capital improvement plan, maintenance assessment,

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schedule, and working capital and reserve balances.

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After much discussion, the board

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provided direction to staff to prepare a balanced budget

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with a 20% change to the maintenance assessment rates

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with subsequent, with subsequent 5% increases in 26 27

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and 27 28.

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Also included were the request to include a 15% increase

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with a 10% in 26 27, and a 5% in 27 28,

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and a 10% increase in 25 26

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with a 10% increase in both 26, 27,

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and 27 28

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for a total increase over the three fiscal years of 30%.

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Uh, the fiscal year 25 26 operating budget

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included at 20% is

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$3,068,859,

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which is a decrease

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of $499,268 from your current year.

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Amended budget, mainly due

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to fewer capital projects included in this budget year based

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on the capital improvement plan.

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Staff did continue to work on the budget over the summer,

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and we included any final cost allocation amounts

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or any changes to the budget,

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which are all included within your packet.

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The additional revenue from the maintenance assessments.

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We also received additional revenue

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in the maintenance assessments.

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We also reduced with the 20% option,

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the transfers from your reserves

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to balance your budget for your working capital.

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If the board elects one of the two alternatives,

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there are some small changes

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that are also identified in all three packets

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are included within your packet.

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Um, and as you know, the rates

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that you did set in June were the maximum rates

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that you could approve at today's public hearing.

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And that is why we also included the 20%, 15%,

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and 10% options at the board's request.

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As you know, the only, uh,

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maintenance assessment rates you're setting at this public

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hearing are for fiscal year 25, 26.

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The future years are in there for informational purposes

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and will be reviewed for those fiscal years

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during their budget process.

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So at this time, staff would recommend approval of one

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of the three motions for 20%, 15%, and 10%.

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I'm here if there's any questions,

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otherwise, I would request that you open the public hearing.

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Any questions? No. No. Good. Okay. Um, thank you.

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Okay. Um, we will now open public hearing to hear any

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comments, comments on using the uniform method of collection

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and certifying the role.

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Um, that's to the public hearing.

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Uh, we were opening up any, um,

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do you need a motion for that?

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Nope. We only need a motion. We only need a motion to open.

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No. Yes. No, it, it would be motion to,

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It would be preferable. Okay.

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A motion to open public hearing. Yep. You good?

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Okay. And second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

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It's open. Okay. Anybody in the public, uh, city

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and the attendees have any questions on our budget?

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Any questions, any concerns? Uh, police get up.

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Give your name, address,

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and obviously your comments. Hi, my name's

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Bill. I'm my, uh,

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20. You talk a little bit

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into the mic.

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I'm 25 97 Birch Avenue. Thank you.

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Um, I've just got a question concerning the, uh,

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the maintenance of, uh, you know, infrastructure,

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um, you know, uh, gutter facilities,

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water retention areas, landscaping,

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what goes on at the water retention areas

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that isn't landscaping.

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I mean, I, I, we see them cutting the grass

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very nice, keeping it looking good.

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But what else goes on there?

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It's, it's a pond that collects rainwater

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In, in the pond.

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There are pipes. You don't see them

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unless the water levels are really low.

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And those pipes help divert water as part

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of the water management system.

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And those pipes will fail up.

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In Ashland Pond, which is in a different district, they had

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to replace five pipes.

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So that's a maintenance fee.

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So it's not just the landscaping.

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Also, a lot of the ponds have liners.

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The liners can get ripped or they can wash out,

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or there's something wrong with the liners,

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and they, then you need to pay to drain the pond

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and then repair the pipes,

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the liners, whatever else is being done.

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So there is maintenance other than just the landscaping.

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Do we, Do we know which ponds have these liners?

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They all do. They all

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Do all the, all of the retention ponds,

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because they're manmade or lines and they all have pipes,

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Move water. They all have, they

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all have pipes.

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They all have big pipes

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that move water from one place to another.

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So like when you have a hurricane

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and they, you see them constantly watering

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because it's to filter the water and get it out of the pond.

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So the rain goes, goes in the pond,

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but all of the pipes that move that water around,

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Is there an expected light?

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Is there a life expect expectancy of these pipes?

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I mean, it's not like, uh, it's sea water

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where salt is gonna be corroding, yet it's,

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Well, it's the age of the pipes.

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I mean, sew lines fail

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and there's no salt water in those either.

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Yeah. So it's the age of the pipes. How old are the ponds?

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What pipe material did they use

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when they put them in? Mm-hmm.

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Okay. So here in District seven, has,

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have these been addressed over these past few years

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where pipes have been replaced or aligners have been

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Patched? I think,

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um, district six

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or District seven, I think when they,

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when those districts were created, the material used

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for those, uh, uh, pipes had changed.

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I know that there's a more severe issue up to the north

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of these pipes deteriorating and having to be relied or,

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or replaced, like six or seven.

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I think they, they started changing the materials,

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which has a longer lifespan.

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Mm-hmm. And Brittany might note for sure on that,

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but I think that's the situation

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for us in our district. And

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They also inspect them.

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Correct. Always inspected.

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That's really the big maintenance.

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Yeah. Isn't it Also, sometimes there's, we,

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we put chemicals in the ponds

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to keep the algae down and all that.

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That would be included in there.

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That's included within the basin management, making the

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SI know a number of the ponds have trees growing

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actually in the ponds, kind of on the very edge.

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And if the wind blows them over, if they get old die

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and fall, their root system could easily tear the liner.

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Mm-hmm. I suspect I'm not an engineer,

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but I would think that probably

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Happens, happened. Well, having, having

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bought 10 years ago, I,

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the only tree I've seen blow over in a hurricane was on a

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small pond at Aon,

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where I spend a lot of time, I fish there. Um,

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So, you know, and you have fish in the pond

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because they're put in the pond.

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So,

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You know, when was the last time that happened?

331
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I have no idea. I don't fish. Right. Okay.

332
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So once upon a time they stopped it with some fish.

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Well, the alligators have eaten those fish

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and fish do what they do.

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So maybe they're a baby fish.

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But as far as this, you know,

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sounding like all these trees get blown over

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and can do this and can do that.

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I, I know it's just anecdotal as far as I'm concerned,

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but I've only seen one or two trees blown over

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and I didn't notice any big rush to get them

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removed or, or taken out.

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'cause there might be some damage to a liner or something.

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So, you know, it's just, uh, just questions I have to ask.

345
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Well, and, and now there's lots of things

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that go on in the pond.

347
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Well, I like to see a little algae control in the one in

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Ardon, because it can be a mess.

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I don't know what, I know it's only a small pond,

350
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but it's one idea. Well,

351
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Part, part of the maintenance also is associated with

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what happens project wide, where a good portion

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of our maintenance goes to that fund, which

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also constitutes issues involving the ponds

355
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and other infrastructure.

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So it's not just limited to what we specifically might pay

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for as it relates to the ponds.

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But what we might also contribute project

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for the project wide and throughout the district

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Being, uh, the largest village DeVol, um,

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one would think that we would have a larger reserve of funds

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to call upon because there are more people,

363
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there are more taxes, there are more money paid in.

364
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Can that be tapped to be used instead

365
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of raising the maintenance fee?

366
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One of the problems that we have is that we're required

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to have a certain percentage

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of funds available in case of emergencies.

369
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Mm-hmm. And if you are not monitoring that

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and raising maintenance fees in small amounts over time,

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then you get depleted in that.

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And one of the reasons that we're looking at a larger jump

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is that we're right on the edge.

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So we need to make sure we have that 35%.

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So that's another reason for this.

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Sometimes it, sometimes people groups don't raise funds

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because they say, well, we're okay right now,

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but then last year we got a $360,000 hit from Seco,

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that money had to come out of, we took a lot of

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that money out of the reserves.

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So now the reserves need to be refunded.

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So part of that is also refunding the reserve so

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that we are in good shape from now forward

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next five years. Thank you.

385
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Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions?

386
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Okay. Thank you. Okay.

387
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Um, no other comments. We will now close the public hearing.

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Motion to close.

389
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Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Scene? None.

390
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Nope. Brandy?

391
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Oh, Brandy. I'm sorry, Brandy. I'm sorry. Sorry Brandy.

392
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That's okay. I, I just came back in case there were any

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questions that I could answer to the board prior

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to making any decisions.

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Any questions? Um, when we started this and,

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and looked at 20%, we were also still wondering about

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what Seco was gonna do.

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We were wondering about what we were gonna do about,

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um, solar.

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And so many of those questions have been resolved.

401
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So do you wanna look at, um, other options?

402
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I, I'll be honest, original proposal, as you know, uh,

403
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the original proposal was 15.

404
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Uh, they forecasted this, they mean staff forecasted

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because our reserves are low for five year forecast.

406
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And, uh, originally it was, um, 15, 10, and five.

407
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Okay. And, uh, the board decided to go with 20 now.

408
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'cause there's a rule where if we ask for,

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we say 10, we can't raise it.

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So we went for 20, but we could lower it.

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So we're at this point where we're allowed

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to lower it, we can't raise it.

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Now we're thinking, I'm thinking personally,

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and obviously I want the supervisors to give their opinion,

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um, the new proposal, uh, with the 20% that we don't agree,

416
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you know, I was thinking about we should go 15,

417
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20 is a good, a big hit,

418
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but if we go with the 15, then we have to go with five

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and five, I mean 10 and five, I apologize.

420
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10 and five. If we go with the 20, all we have

421
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to do is go five and five.

422
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It's really less money if you compound the 20% onto

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what we have now than do the 10 next year.

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If you it is compounded, it,

425
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it's a little less money for the residents.

426
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So I'm up in the air.

427
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Should we leave it at 25 and go to 25 and five?

428
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I'll go back to the 15, 10 and five now.

429
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That's where we're at. Okay. Um, I don't know.

430
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What's your opinion? You want to start with the

431
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Yeah. Um,

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Of the three options, um, obviously the

433
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10, 10 10 really puts us in a precarious position in the out

434
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years where we are actually short of our, our, uh,

435
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target fund balance.

436
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Um, the 20%

437
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I think is right now is the most favorable.

438
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And we don't, we don't know what next year will be.

439
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We'll, we'll go

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through another budget process come next year,

441
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and it may not be any need for an increase,

442
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or it could be we, we don't know.

443
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Um, but financially, to put our district in the best

444
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possible, uh, financial fiduciary position, it seems to me

445
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that the 20% this year is probably our, our

446
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most sound solution.

447
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Uh, I know it's distasteful to have that type

448
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of an increase, but I think it's necessary for the,

449
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for our future, for the district

450
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Future. And what's good

451
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about that is,

452
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though public would know we're only raise five

453
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and five for the next two years.

454
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Correct. Is that, was the,

455
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Those are the projections plan.

456
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Correct. For planning purposes,

457
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it would be a cumulative 30% increase.

458
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Of course, you can't bind any future board

459
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to those projections.

460
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Yes. But the, this current fiscal year would,

461
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as you're discussing, would be 20% and projected five

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and five in the following

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Year. That's projected. That's

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right. Just wanna

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let the resident know. Okay. It

466
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Keeps our reserve healthy, I think.

467
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Yeah. Okay.

468
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Uh, Steve, as much as I

469
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Hate to see the 20%, I'm gonna agree with that

470
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And go with that.

471
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Do it again. Our goal is to be fiscally responsible.

472
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It's the pits, but that's where we need to be.

473
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It's, it's nice to be the board that can say, oh,

474
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we're not gonna have any raise,

475
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but that's not fiscally responsible.

476
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So I think that we bite the bullet now

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and then continue to do what we can do to keep the budget

478
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down so that we can hit the bottom and budget darl.

479
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Yeah, I agree. I think 20% makes the most sense

480
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to do at this particular time.

481
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Uh, you know, we got a couple wild cards out there into the

482
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future, which we can't really think about

483
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or seko do much about,

484
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but like SEKO is a big wild card this year

485
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And Who knows what's gonna

486
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go on in the future with them.

487
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Right, exactly. So I think we need to make sure

488
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that we are in a sound financial position.

489
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20% to me makes the most sense.

490
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And no, just so you know, in the last,

491
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I'm doing this 12 years, the last 11

492
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years, we only raised it once.

493
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That was two years ago. So that'd be,

494
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this would be the second time in 12 years we raised

495
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it, which isn't bad.

496
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Uh, I obviously, I don't like, uh, the 20%,

497
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but we have to worry about the reserve.

498
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We have to, and part of the thing about not raising it is

499
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that you get to this point where we are today

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with having to make a major raise.

501
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So, um, I think the, the goal is to be fiscally responsible

502
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and at least minimize the potential that we'll be asking

503
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for 20% somewhere else down the road.

504
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Okay. Um, so did we get a motion, motion

505
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to approve the 20%? Second?

506
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I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

507
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Seeing none. Motion.

508
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Thank you. You're smiling.

509
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Okay. Next we have, we have a public hearing.

510
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Good morning board. Jennifer Leon Norris Finance here

511
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to request, um, your adoption

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of resolution 2025 dash zero eight authorizing the use

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of the Uniform Method of collections approving assessment

514
00:24:00.925 --> 00:24:03.205
role, and providing for a certification

515
00:24:03.205 --> 00:24:04.925
of the non avalor assessment rule.

516
00:24:05.625 --> 00:24:09.765
The district adopted resolution 2025 dash seven earlier in

517
00:24:09.765 --> 00:24:11.085
the agenda regarding its budget,

518
00:24:11.255 --> 00:24:12.885
which included a maintenance assessment

519
00:24:12.985 --> 00:24:16.205
for fiscal years beginning, uh, October 1st, 2025,

520
00:24:16.205 --> 00:24:19.125
including a 20% increase in the maintenance assessment from

521
00:24:19.125 --> 00:24:22.245
last year to provide necessary funding for the operation

522
00:24:22.265 --> 00:24:24.445
and maintenance of the district infrastructure.

523
00:24:25.025 --> 00:24:27.605
The district desires to continue to use the procedure

524
00:24:27.925 --> 00:24:32.165
provided in Section 1 97 0.3632 Florida statutes called the

525
00:24:32.165 --> 00:24:34.645
Uniform Collection Method to levy bill

526
00:24:34.705 --> 00:24:36.285
and collect all assessments, beginning

527
00:24:36.285 --> 00:24:40.245
with the November 1st, 2025 annual property tax bill issued

528
00:24:40.245 --> 00:24:41.765
by the Center County Tax Collector.

529
00:24:42.105 --> 00:24:44.365
In addition, by September 15th of each year,

530
00:24:44.385 --> 00:24:46.885
the non-ad valor assessment role shall be certified

531
00:24:46.885 --> 00:24:47.925
to the tax collector.

532
00:24:48.305 --> 00:24:50.845
In order to utilize the Uniform Collection method,

533
00:24:50.845 --> 00:24:53.605
certain procedural steps must be taken by a unit

534
00:24:53.605 --> 00:24:54.685
of local government in order

535
00:24:54.685 --> 00:24:56.125
to adopt this collection methodology.

536
00:24:56.765 --> 00:24:58.485
A newspaper ad and individual letters

537
00:24:58.485 --> 00:25:01.325
to each affected property owner have been issued.

538
00:25:01.425 --> 00:25:03.165
Um, noticing the public hearing

539
00:25:03.465 --> 00:25:05.085
to adopt the Uniform Collection Method,

540
00:25:05.525 --> 00:25:07.245
a public hearing must now be held in order

541
00:25:07.245 --> 00:25:09.005
to complete the process to use the

542
00:25:09.005 --> 00:25:10.245
Uniform Method of Collections.

543
00:25:10.625 --> 00:25:13.245
Um, the method substantially increases the efficiency

544
00:25:13.245 --> 00:25:15.405
and effectiveness of the collection process while

545
00:25:15.405 --> 00:25:17.725
minimizing, minimizing cost to the district.

546
00:25:18.195 --> 00:25:20.885
Following the conduct of the, uh, required public hearing,

547
00:25:20.995 --> 00:25:23.085
it's recommended that the Village's Community Development

548
00:25:23.325 --> 00:25:26.925
District seven Board of Supervisors adopt resolution 2025

549
00:25:26.925 --> 00:25:30.285
dash eight authorizing the use of the Uniform Method

550
00:25:30.285 --> 00:25:32.325
of Collections, approving the assessment rule,

551
00:25:32.325 --> 00:25:34.245
and providing for certification of a non-ad

552
00:25:36.665 --> 00:25:40.285
Motion to adopt resolution 2025 dash eight.

553
00:25:40.485 --> 00:25:43.005
Electing to use the Uniform Collection Method provided

554
00:25:43.185 --> 00:25:44.185
For. So we have

555
00:25:44.185 --> 00:25:44.845
to have a public hearing.

556
00:25:44.945 --> 00:25:47.525
I'm sorry, I have to have over the public hearing hearing.

557
00:25:47.855 --> 00:25:50.725
We're not at this point. Oh my God, at this. No problem.

558
00:25:51.345 --> 00:25:53.645
At this point, we will open up public hearing

559
00:25:53.745 --> 00:25:56.885
to hear any comments and use of uniform method of collection

560
00:25:56.885 --> 00:25:57.925
and certifying the role.

561
00:25:58.555 --> 00:26:00.285
Okay. Um, we open a public hearing.

562
00:26:00.435 --> 00:26:01.965
Anybody in the public, uh,

563
00:26:02.145 --> 00:26:05.645
any attendees have any comments, concerns?

564
00:26:07.565 --> 00:26:09.105
Seeing none, we'll move on.

565
00:26:09.245 --> 00:26:13.905
Motion to close the public hearing? Yes, you have a motion?

566
00:26:14.295 --> 00:26:15.945
Okay. Motion to Adopt

567
00:26:17.625 --> 00:26:20.665
resolution 2025 dash oh eight using

568
00:26:20.815 --> 00:26:22.105
Uniform Collection Method.

569
00:26:23.695 --> 00:26:27.025
I'll show credit and just say second. Okay. All in favor?

570
00:26:27.405 --> 00:26:30.825
Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none. Thank you.

571
00:26:31.055 --> 00:26:32.145
That makes a petition.

572
00:26:34.895 --> 00:26:35.185
Okay.

573
00:26:40.165 --> 00:26:43.445
Now we got, uh, case number D 7 10 25.

574
00:26:49.115 --> 00:26:51.685
Good Morning Board, Shannon Boyd, community Standards.

575
00:26:51.815 --> 00:26:54.805
Today I have before you case number D seven dash one zero

576
00:26:54.835 --> 00:26:58.285
dash 25 Village Community Development District number seven

577
00:26:58.385 --> 00:27:01.405
versus Janet a Scen individually.

578
00:27:01.465 --> 00:27:03.045
And as trustee of the Janet,

579
00:27:03.285 --> 00:27:07.245
a scouting Living Trust dated May 4th, 2018.

580
00:27:08.585 --> 00:27:11.965
2 5 0 4 Dale Loop, unit 1, 3 4,

581
00:27:12.185 --> 00:27:14.885
lot five seven violation of the district's rule

582
00:27:14.885 --> 00:27:16.085
to bring about deed compliance.

583
00:27:16.185 --> 00:27:17.405
And specifically the rule

584
00:27:17.405 --> 00:27:20.285
that states owners shall keep their home sites neat

585
00:27:20.285 --> 00:27:22.165
and clean and the grass cut, irrigated

586
00:27:22.165 --> 00:27:23.165
and edged at all times.

587
00:27:24.305 --> 00:27:26.805
Um, if an owner does not adhere to the regulation,

588
00:27:26.805 --> 00:27:28.965
then the work may be performed on behalf of the owner

589
00:27:28.965 --> 00:27:30.525
and the cost shall be charged to the owner.

590
00:27:32.465 --> 00:27:33.485
So We need a motion

591
00:27:33.545 --> 00:27:35.445
To open the Public hearing.

592
00:27:36.765 --> 00:27:38.165
I you need

593
00:27:38.165 --> 00:27:39.165
To Oh, yes. You to

594
00:27:39.165 --> 00:27:40.325
swear people in person. Yes. Yes.

595
00:27:40.395 --> 00:27:42.485
Just a few things to note for the record.

596
00:27:42.705 --> 00:27:44.445
For each of the public hearings held today,

597
00:27:44.445 --> 00:27:46.885
the board is acting in a place by judicial capacity

598
00:27:46.905 --> 00:27:48.005
to afford due diligence

599
00:27:48.005 --> 00:27:49.845
to the individuals noted in the violation

600
00:27:50.305 --> 00:27:52.565
of the district's de compliance rules cited in each

601
00:27:52.565 --> 00:27:54.525
of the agenda amendment that staff has prepared for you.

602
00:27:55.305 --> 00:27:58.565
Um, the process includes providing proper notice

603
00:27:58.565 --> 00:28:01.325
to the alleged violator, which, um, as outlined in each

604
00:28:01.325 --> 00:28:02.845
of the memos, they've been notified.

605
00:28:03.285 --> 00:28:05.205
A violator has the opportunity to be heard

606
00:28:05.205 --> 00:28:07.525
and that the board decision is made based upon

607
00:28:07.525 --> 00:28:08.805
the evidence presented to you today.

608
00:28:08.805 --> 00:28:10.725
And only those evidence, including those staff,

609
00:28:10.945 --> 00:28:12.325
um, report for you.

610
00:28:12.905 --> 00:28:15.605
And as the board is acting in aqua of traditional manner,

611
00:28:15.605 --> 00:28:17.325
would each of the board members go down the line

612
00:28:17.325 --> 00:28:19.605
and confirm whether you've discussed this matter with, um,

613
00:28:19.605 --> 00:28:20.805
either staff or the homeowner?

614
00:28:22.545 --> 00:28:26.925
Uh, I did, I,

615
00:28:27.205 --> 00:28:28.685
I ride my bike by that area

616
00:28:29.025 --> 00:28:33.965
and I, in fact, I, I, I don't recall if I either wrote

617
00:28:34.225 --> 00:28:36.365
or called Matt and,

618
00:28:36.585 --> 00:28:38.165
and actually said

619
00:28:38.165 --> 00:28:40.285
that I thought the place was out of compliance.

620
00:28:40.345 --> 00:28:43.245
So I don't know if that qualifies for that,

621
00:28:43.265 --> 00:28:44.525
but that's the only, that's

622
00:28:44.725 --> 00:28:46.405
conversation I did have with him.

623
00:28:46.425 --> 00:28:49.005
And then he told me that I think he wrote me back

624
00:28:49.385 --> 00:28:50.445
or called me and said

625
00:28:50.445 --> 00:28:53.685
that there had already been a complaint lodged against

626
00:28:53.685 --> 00:28:55.085
that property de compliance.

627
00:28:55.185 --> 00:28:57.285
So that was the extent of it. Oh,

628
00:28:58.585 --> 00:29:01.565
To me that, you know, sounds like he was,

629
00:29:01.985 --> 00:29:04.645
you were just riding by, I mean, as a community member.

630
00:29:05.155 --> 00:29:08.165
Yeah. Yeah. Um, that, that's okay. Okay. Yeah,

631
00:29:09.075 --> 00:29:10.245
That, that through, uh,

632
00:29:10.985 --> 00:29:14.365
no, Steve, Steve.

633
00:29:15.065 --> 00:29:18.005
No, no, no.

634
00:29:20.695 --> 00:29:23.045
Thank you. I'll turn it over to your, our staff.

635
00:29:25.625 --> 00:29:28.245
If anyone is providing testimony in this case,

636
00:29:28.255 --> 00:29:31.125
would you please, um, stand and raise your right hand.

637
00:29:32.455 --> 00:29:34.595
Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony

638
00:29:34.595 --> 00:29:36.755
and evidence you're about to given the hearing today will be

639
00:29:36.755 --> 00:29:38.195
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the

640
00:29:38.195 --> 00:29:39.195
Truth? Yes, I do.

641
00:29:39.195 --> 00:29:43.165
And we will take the motion

642
00:29:43.185 --> 00:29:44.365
for to motion to open

643
00:29:44.365 --> 00:29:45.365
The public hearing.

644
00:29:45.785 --> 00:29:49.725
Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. And opposed.

645
00:29:51.795 --> 00:29:53.685
Okay. Good morning Board, Shannon Boyd Community

646
00:29:53.885 --> 00:29:57.125
Standards, again, case number D seven dash one zero dash 25

647
00:29:57.125 --> 00:30:00.485
Village Community Development District number seven versus

648
00:30:00.615 --> 00:30:02.685
Janet a Scout and individually

649
00:30:02.705 --> 00:30:05.325
and as trustee of the Janet a Scout

650
00:30:05.325 --> 00:30:08.405
and Living Trust dated May 4th, 2018.

651
00:30:08.905 --> 00:30:12.285
2 5 0 4 Dale Loop, unit 1, 3, 4,

652
00:30:12.545 --> 00:30:15.125
lot five seven violation of the district's rule

653
00:30:15.125 --> 00:30:16.565
to bring about D compliance.

654
00:30:16.625 --> 00:30:17.765
And specifically, the rule

655
00:30:17.925 --> 00:30:20.565
that states owners shall keep their home sites neat

656
00:30:20.565 --> 00:30:22.645
and clean and the grass cut, irrigated

657
00:30:22.645 --> 00:30:23.645
and edged at all times.

658
00:30:24.065 --> 00:30:26.325
If an owner does not adhere to this regulation,

659
00:30:26.515 --> 00:30:28.885
then the work may be performed on behalf of the owner

660
00:30:29.065 --> 00:30:30.885
and the cost shall be charged to the owner.

661
00:30:31.345 --> 00:30:33.605
As stated in the Village Community Development District

662
00:30:33.605 --> 00:30:36.605
number seven, external deed restriction, definitions

663
00:30:36.725 --> 00:30:37.725
and interpretations.

664
00:30:38.355 --> 00:30:41.245
Maintenance of landscaping is defined as the exercise

665
00:30:41.245 --> 00:30:44.805
of generally accepted garden management practices necessary

666
00:30:44.865 --> 00:30:47.205
to promote a healthy weed-free environment

667
00:30:47.385 --> 00:30:48.685
for optimum plant growth.

668
00:30:49.185 --> 00:30:52.325
On June 27th, 2025, a complaint was received

669
00:30:52.635 --> 00:30:54.885
regarding a large plant in the front yard

670
00:30:54.915 --> 00:30:56.565
with poison ivy growing on it.

671
00:30:56.985 --> 00:30:58.325
The violation was verified

672
00:30:58.325 --> 00:31:01.165
and a deed restriction reminder was written on June 30th.

673
00:31:01.775 --> 00:31:03.725
Staff encounter difficulties, uh,

674
00:31:04.045 --> 00:31:06.965
reaching the property owner directly through conversations

675
00:31:06.995 --> 00:31:08.365
with an onsite caretaker.

676
00:31:08.695 --> 00:31:10.765
Staff were referred to the caretaker's wife

677
00:31:10.785 --> 00:31:12.885
to obtain the homeowner's information.

678
00:31:13.625 --> 00:31:16.325
The initial and second letters were sent out on July 11th

679
00:31:16.385 --> 00:31:17.445
and July 24th.

680
00:31:17.745 --> 00:31:20.005
And after following the procedures of compliance

681
00:31:20.005 --> 00:31:22.165
of external deed restrictions, a notice

682
00:31:22.225 --> 00:31:25.085
of public hearing was sent by regular and certified mail.

683
00:31:25.265 --> 00:31:29.205
On August 19, staff successfully established communication

684
00:31:29.205 --> 00:31:31.885
with Katie, the homeowner's daughter who served

685
00:31:31.905 --> 00:31:33.845
as the primary point of communication.

686
00:31:34.375 --> 00:31:37.205
Katie, um, indicated that she would coordinate

687
00:31:37.205 --> 00:31:39.685
with the company that's currently servicing the remainder

688
00:31:39.685 --> 00:31:42.165
of the property to address the violation.

689
00:31:42.505 --> 00:31:45.085
She also stated that if the company could not resolve the

690
00:31:45.085 --> 00:31:47.325
issue that she would personally handle it.

691
00:31:47.625 --> 00:31:51.565
Um, when she, um, came to her town, when she came

692
00:31:51.565 --> 00:31:53.045
to town in approximately two weeks,

693
00:31:53.465 --> 00:31:55.085
during staff's recent inspection

694
00:31:55.085 --> 00:31:58.045
of the property on September 2nd, it was determined

695
00:31:58.045 --> 00:32:00.085
that the property does remain out of compliance.

696
00:32:00.505 --> 00:32:02.125
So staff's recommendation would be

697
00:32:02.125 --> 00:32:03.445
to find the owner in violation

698
00:32:03.665 --> 00:32:05.285
of the districts de compliance rule.

699
00:32:05.285 --> 00:32:06.965
As cited by the deed compliance staff,

700
00:32:07.505 --> 00:32:10.365
the owner has seven days to remove the weeds to bring the,

701
00:32:10.505 --> 00:32:11.925
uh, property into compliance.

702
00:32:12.465 --> 00:32:15.005
If the weeds are removed within seven days of the order

703
00:32:15.005 --> 00:32:18.005
of enforcement, case number D seven dash 10 dash

704
00:32:18.005 --> 00:32:19.125
25 shall be closed.

705
00:32:19.625 --> 00:32:20.885
If the weeds are not removed

706
00:32:20.885 --> 00:32:23.565
and the property is not brought into compliance within seven

707
00:32:23.565 --> 00:32:26.525
days of the order of enforcement, authorize the district

708
00:32:26.545 --> 00:32:27.885
to maintain the property

709
00:32:28.145 --> 00:32:30.925
and impose a minimum of a $250 fine.

710
00:32:31.185 --> 00:32:34.045
Or the actual cost of maintenance, whichever is more

711
00:32:34.045 --> 00:32:36.005
to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

712
00:32:36.555 --> 00:32:37.645
Authorize the district

713
00:32:37.645 --> 00:32:39.765
to maintain the property twice a month in the summer

714
00:32:40.025 --> 00:32:41.845
and once a month in the winter as needed.

715
00:32:42.065 --> 00:32:45.125
And impose a $250 fine each time the

716
00:32:45.325 --> 00:32:46.645
district maintains the property.

717
00:32:46.985 --> 00:32:49.525
If the owners prohibit the district from maintaining the

718
00:32:49.725 --> 00:32:52.365
property, then the owner shall be fined an initial amount

719
00:32:52.365 --> 00:32:53.445
of $150

720
00:32:53.745 --> 00:32:56.645
and a daily fine of $50 per day

721
00:32:56.815 --> 00:32:58.845
until the property is brought into compliance.

722
00:32:59.345 --> 00:33:01.125
It is a property owner's responsibility

723
00:33:01.185 --> 00:33:03.285
to contact the Community Standards Department

724
00:33:03.505 --> 00:33:06.485
to request a deed compliance officer revisit the property

725
00:33:06.665 --> 00:33:07.845
to confirm compliance.

726
00:33:08.385 --> 00:33:11.445
If the fines reach $1,500, the case shall be turned over

727
00:33:11.445 --> 00:33:13.845
to district counsel to seek all available over remedies,

728
00:33:14.055 --> 00:33:16.205
which may include initiating a lawsuit

729
00:33:16.345 --> 00:33:18.885
or seeking an injunction against the property owner.

730
00:33:19.225 --> 00:33:21.245
The property owner are, is responsible

731
00:33:21.245 --> 00:33:23.445
for reimbursing the districts for all attorney's fees,

732
00:33:23.445 --> 00:33:25.885
costs, and expenses associated with

733
00:33:25.905 --> 00:33:28.005
or related to this order of enforcement

734
00:33:28.305 --> 00:33:30.325
and Chairman to execute the order of enforcement.

735
00:33:30.325 --> 00:33:32.765
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have

736
00:33:34.665 --> 00:33:36.125
On, um, I'm sorry, go ahead.

737
00:33:36.675 --> 00:33:38.605
When does summer and winter, what?

738
00:33:38.705 --> 00:33:41.925
You said summer twice a month and then winter once a month.

739
00:33:41.945 --> 00:33:43.565
So what, how do we define

740
00:33:43.565 --> 00:33:44.565
That here? It, it,

741
00:33:44.565 --> 00:33:46.605
it's difficult because of the weather.

742
00:33:47.025 --> 00:33:49.565
Um, it, it tends to be more of a October,

743
00:33:50.005 --> 00:33:52.165
november time when the grass tends to go dormant.

744
00:33:52.745 --> 00:33:56.125
It is roughly when and when it needs to be maintained.

745
00:33:56.125 --> 00:33:59.085
Staff on those property staff continually goes out

746
00:33:59.085 --> 00:34:00.605
monthly to check on them.

747
00:34:00.985 --> 00:34:02.685
So if we do see that it needs

748
00:34:02.685 --> 00:34:04.005
to be maintained, we'll maintain it.

749
00:34:04.115 --> 00:34:05.115
Okay.

750
00:34:05.475 --> 00:34:06.805
Does the resident is aware

751
00:34:07.225 --> 00:34:09.085
or the owner is aware that the, uh,

752
00:34:09.195 --> 00:34:12.685
they have seven days now from the time that we decide

753
00:34:12.945 --> 00:34:14.925
to fix this problem, they should be able

754
00:34:14.925 --> 00:34:16.765
to fix this problem within the next seven days.

755
00:34:17.465 --> 00:34:19.805
Am I right? They are aware of that, correct.

756
00:34:20.035 --> 00:34:22.925
Well, once you make, if you Yes, they will be aware

757
00:34:22.925 --> 00:34:23.925
Of that, then they will be aware. Yes.

758
00:34:23.925 --> 00:34:25.885
We will let them know that they have seven days. Quick

759
00:34:26.045 --> 00:34:27.045
Question. Yes.

760
00:34:27.045 --> 00:34:29.365
Unless I was asleep.

761
00:34:29.505 --> 00:34:32.205
Did we go through the staff recommendations

762
00:34:32.305 --> 00:34:35.545
for oh 8 25? The one on

763
00:34:36.085 --> 00:34:37.505
No, we're on the, yeah.

764
00:34:38.265 --> 00:34:40.025
D seven dash one zero dash 25.

765
00:34:40.685 --> 00:34:43.985
But didn't we start with oh 8 25?

766
00:34:44.765 --> 00:34:44.985
No,

767
00:34:48.965 --> 00:34:50.945
no, that's the sec.

768
00:34:51.045 --> 00:34:54.105
That's the second. Um, community standards public hearing.

769
00:34:54.695 --> 00:34:58.105
Yeah. But when you asked the question about if it had any

770
00:34:58.105 --> 00:35:01.025
contact, it was regarding Holly Berry place.

771
00:35:01.325 --> 00:35:02.465
No. Was it not? No.

772
00:35:02.645 --> 00:35:05.065
It was regarding seven seven dash 10. Not

773
00:35:05.805 --> 00:35:06.805
It was answered or changed.

774
00:35:07.815 --> 00:35:09.185
Okay. Note noted for the record.

775
00:35:10.525 --> 00:35:12.225
All right. Okay.

776
00:35:13.925 --> 00:35:16.625
But the answer still, So any

777
00:35:16.625 --> 00:35:18.665
other responses, questions?

778
00:35:19.125 --> 00:35:20.705
Uh, boy, no. Any, uh,

779
00:35:21.225 --> 00:35:22.225
I just one question. I, you

780
00:35:22.225 --> 00:35:25.225
said the daughter is aware, she said she'd take care

781
00:35:25.225 --> 00:35:26.865
of it if it wasn't correct.

782
00:35:28.095 --> 00:35:30.665
When did that occur and when is she gonna take care of it?

783
00:35:30.935 --> 00:35:32.465
It's obviously not been changed.

784
00:35:32.575 --> 00:35:36.945
Correct. When she had stated that, that was in

785
00:35:37.465 --> 00:35:38.925
the end of July.

786
00:35:39.745 --> 00:35:41.165
Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. So it's been,

787
00:35:41.585 --> 00:35:43.405
so it's been some time 30 days, correct?

788
00:35:43.585 --> 00:35:46.685
Yes, sir. And, and she's not done anything. Okay.

789
00:35:48.925 --> 00:35:49.965
I, I can't see them.

790
00:35:50.025 --> 00:35:52.405
And once she's aware that she has seven days, I,

791
00:35:53.115 --> 00:35:55.685
it's not too bright for her to let this go.

792
00:35:55.925 --> 00:35:58.925
I, you know, so I hopefully we won't hear about this once

793
00:35:59.025 --> 00:36:02.565
we, uh, so I agree with the recommendation.

794
00:36:02.675 --> 00:36:07.085
Does, does, uh, hear something I Okay, Judy Ann?

795
00:36:07.905 --> 00:36:09.845
I'm fine. Yeah. Everybody good?

796
00:36:09.865 --> 00:36:13.165
Do I get a motion to, uh, go with their, uh, rep,

797
00:36:13.225 --> 00:36:14.965
uh, requirements

798
00:36:18.745 --> 00:36:22.965
In regard to case number D seven dash 10 dash 25?

799
00:36:25.165 --> 00:36:29.165
I move that we accept the, uh, recommendation district

800
00:36:29.705 --> 00:36:31.365
and proceed court.

801
00:36:31.705 --> 00:36:35.125
You get Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

802
00:36:36.095 --> 00:36:38.925
Thank you. Okay,

803
00:36:38.985 --> 00:36:42.045
now we got the case number 7 8 25.

804
00:36:42.455 --> 00:36:43.565
Sorry to let you know,

805
00:36:46.925 --> 00:36:47.925
Okay. So I have case

806
00:36:47.925 --> 00:36:50.255
number D seven dash zero eight dash 25

807
00:36:50.255 --> 00:36:51.695
Village Community Development,

808
00:36:51.935 --> 00:36:54.775
district number seven versus Kenneth C. Robinson,

809
00:36:54.915 --> 00:36:57.095
1 5 7 5 Holly Berry Place.

810
00:36:58.755 --> 00:37:02.375
And, um, I will note for the record that supervisor, um,

811
00:37:03.205 --> 00:37:06.775
Coleman would likely make the same remark as he did, um,

812
00:37:06.775 --> 00:37:10.215
earlier and each of the other board members note

813
00:37:10.215 --> 00:37:11.895
for the record whether you've had any communications

814
00:37:11.895 --> 00:37:13.175
with the homeowner or staff.

815
00:37:13.715 --> 00:37:17.255
Not that I recall. Now you're badge, Steve.

816
00:37:18.675 --> 00:37:20.455
No. No. None. No, none.

817
00:37:20.945 --> 00:37:24.815
Thank you. Okay. Good morning Board.

818
00:37:24.815 --> 00:37:26.255
Shannon Boyce, community Standards.

819
00:37:27.595 --> 00:37:30.255
Is anyone is gonna testify in this case?

820
00:37:30.255 --> 00:37:32.095
Would you please stand and raise your right hand?

821
00:37:34.315 --> 00:37:37.575
Do you solemnly swear affirm that the testimony, wait

822
00:37:37.575 --> 00:37:38.575
Second.

823
00:37:46.165 --> 00:37:49.535
Okay. If

824
00:37:49.535 --> 00:37:51.135
You, are you able to submit?

825
00:37:51.145 --> 00:37:53.215
Thank you. Do you solemnly swear

826
00:37:53.215 --> 00:37:54.375
and affirm that the testimony

827
00:37:54.375 --> 00:37:56.495
and evidence you're about to give in the hearing today will

828
00:37:56.495 --> 00:37:58.375
be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

829
00:37:58.675 --> 00:37:59.175
Yes, I do.

830
00:38:04.755 --> 00:38:07.655
And a motion for, um, opening the public hearing? Yeah,

831
00:38:07.855 --> 00:38:09.415
I would like motion public hearing.

832
00:38:09.595 --> 00:38:13.415
Motion. Second. Second. All in favor? Any opposed?

833
00:38:13.635 --> 00:38:16.335
No hearing is open. Okay.

834
00:38:16.335 --> 00:38:17.655
Good Morning Board, Shannon Boyd,

835
00:38:17.655 --> 00:38:20.895
community Standards case number D seven dash zero eight dash

836
00:38:20.895 --> 00:38:24.095
25 Village Community Development District number seven

837
00:38:24.095 --> 00:38:25.935
versus Kenneth C. Robinson.

838
00:38:26.315 --> 00:38:31.095
1 5 7 5 Holly Berry Place, unit 1 4 6, lot one four.

839
00:38:31.445 --> 00:38:32.935
Violation of the district's rule

840
00:38:32.935 --> 00:38:34.255
to bring about deed compliance.

841
00:38:34.355 --> 00:38:35.525
And specifically the rule

842
00:38:35.525 --> 00:38:38.405
that states owners shall keep their homicides neat and clean

843
00:38:38.405 --> 00:38:40.725
and the grass cut, irrigated, and edged at all times.

844
00:38:41.225 --> 00:38:43.445
If an owner does not adhere to this regulation,

845
00:38:43.445 --> 00:38:45.605
then the work may be performed on behalf of the owner

846
00:38:45.865 --> 00:38:47.565
and the cost shall be charged to the owner.

847
00:38:47.945 --> 00:38:50.085
As stated in the Village Community Development District

848
00:38:50.085 --> 00:38:52.845
number seven, external deed restriction definitions

849
00:38:53.085 --> 00:38:54.085
and interpretations.

850
00:38:54.945 --> 00:38:57.685
Uh, the definition maintenance of landscaping is defined

851
00:38:57.705 --> 00:39:00.885
as the exercise of generally accepted garden management

852
00:39:01.205 --> 00:39:02.365
practices necessary

853
00:39:02.425 --> 00:39:04.725
to promote a healthy weed-free environment

854
00:39:04.945 --> 00:39:06.205
for optimum plant growth.

855
00:39:06.785 --> 00:39:10.125
On May 12th, 2025, a complaint was received

856
00:39:10.125 --> 00:39:13.285
regarding dead grass, weeds, and mold on the home site.

857
00:39:13.505 --> 00:39:16.325
The violations were verified in a deed restriction reminder

858
00:39:16.425 --> 00:39:17.645
was written that same day.

859
00:39:18.145 --> 00:39:20.165
The initial and second letters were sent out on

860
00:39:20.165 --> 00:39:21.805
June 18th and July 2nd.

861
00:39:22.385 --> 00:39:24.325
And after following the procedures of compliance

862
00:39:24.345 --> 00:39:26.285
of external deed restrictions, a notice

863
00:39:26.285 --> 00:39:28.045
of public hearing was sent by regular

864
00:39:28.145 --> 00:39:30.405
and certified mail on July 23rd

865
00:39:30.785 --> 00:39:34.725
and Reno again on August 18th, staff spoke to one

866
00:39:34.725 --> 00:39:37.205
of the neighbors who indicated the homeowner had passed away

867
00:39:37.225 --> 00:39:39.965
and were unaware of any relatives attempt

868
00:39:40.065 --> 00:39:41.205
to reach the emergency.

869
00:39:41.245 --> 00:39:43.605
Contacts on file were unsuccessful.

870
00:39:43.985 --> 00:39:45.605
One phone number was no longer in service,

871
00:39:45.745 --> 00:39:48.165
and the other, uh, contact has not returned.

872
00:39:48.165 --> 00:39:51.445
The voicemail messages left during a recent inspection

873
00:39:51.465 --> 00:39:53.125
of the property on September 2nd.

874
00:39:53.265 --> 00:39:54.685
It was determined that the property

875
00:39:54.685 --> 00:39:55.845
remains out of compliance.

876
00:39:56.355 --> 00:39:57.725
Staff's recommendation would be

877
00:39:57.725 --> 00:39:59.005
to find the owner in violation

878
00:39:59.005 --> 00:40:00.565
of the district's de compliance rule.

879
00:40:00.565 --> 00:40:02.325
As cited by the deed compliance staff,

880
00:40:02.705 --> 00:40:04.845
the owner has seven days to remove the weeds to bring

881
00:40:04.845 --> 00:40:07.005
that portion of the property into compliance.

882
00:40:07.625 --> 00:40:10.205
If the weeds are removed within seven days of the order

883
00:40:10.225 --> 00:40:11.765
of enforcement, that portion

884
00:40:11.825 --> 00:40:14.045
of case number D seven dash zero eight dash

885
00:40:14.045 --> 00:40:15.525
25 shall be closed.

886
00:40:15.905 --> 00:40:17.765
If the weeds are not removed, then that portion

887
00:40:17.785 --> 00:40:20.765
of the property is not brought into compliance within seven

888
00:40:20.765 --> 00:40:22.125
days of the Order of enforcement.

889
00:40:22.355 --> 00:40:24.725
Authorize the district to maintain the property

890
00:40:24.945 --> 00:40:28.085
and impose a minimum of a $250 fine,

891
00:40:28.345 --> 00:40:30.965
or the actual cost of maintenance, whichever is more

892
00:40:31.265 --> 00:40:33.325
to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

893
00:40:33.755 --> 00:40:34.885
Authorize the district

894
00:40:34.885 --> 00:40:37.125
to maintain the property twice a month in the summer,

895
00:40:37.435 --> 00:40:39.325
once a month in the winter as needed,

896
00:40:39.745 --> 00:40:42.365
and impose a $250 fine each time the

897
00:40:42.645 --> 00:40:44.005
district maintains the property.

898
00:40:44.345 --> 00:40:46.885
If the owners prohibit the district from maintaining the

899
00:40:47.085 --> 00:40:49.485
property, then the owner shall be fined an initial amount

900
00:40:49.485 --> 00:40:52.965
of $150 in an additional $50 per day

901
00:40:53.135 --> 00:40:55.045
until the property is brought into compliance.

902
00:40:55.665 --> 00:40:58.245
The owners have seven days to remove the mold from the home

903
00:40:58.245 --> 00:40:59.925
and rear patio to bring that portion

904
00:40:59.925 --> 00:41:01.325
of the property into compliance.

905
00:41:01.825 --> 00:41:03.805
If the mold has been removed from the home

906
00:41:03.805 --> 00:41:06.405
and the rear patio within seven days of the order

907
00:41:06.425 --> 00:41:08.165
of enforcement, that portion

908
00:41:08.225 --> 00:41:11.405
of case number D seven dash zero eight dash 25 shall be

909
00:41:11.405 --> 00:41:13.605
closed if the mold is not removed

910
00:41:13.605 --> 00:41:14.685
from the home and rear patio.

911
00:41:14.825 --> 00:41:17.045
And that portion of the property is not brought into

912
00:41:17.045 --> 00:41:19.925
compliance within seven days of the order of enforcement,

913
00:41:20.235 --> 00:41:22.645
authorize the district to maintain the property

914
00:41:22.825 --> 00:41:25.805
and impose $150 per maintenance hour fine,

915
00:41:26.075 --> 00:41:28.165
plus a hundred dollars administrative fee

916
00:41:28.545 --> 00:41:30.525
to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

917
00:41:31.025 --> 00:41:34.125
The owner has 30 days to reseed or resaw the dead

918
00:41:34.125 --> 00:41:35.605
and missing grass to bring that portion

919
00:41:35.625 --> 00:41:36.965
of the property into compliance.

920
00:41:37.505 --> 00:41:40.845
If the grass is reseeded or ODed, and the dead grass

921
00:41:40.905 --> 00:41:42.725
and bare spots no longer exists,

922
00:41:43.065 --> 00:41:45.525
and that portion of the property is brought into compliance

923
00:41:45.525 --> 00:41:49.045
within 30 days of the order of Enforcement, that portion

924
00:41:49.145 --> 00:41:53.445
of case number D seven dash 0 8 25 shall be closed.

925
00:41:53.905 --> 00:41:56.205
If the property is not receded or recited,

926
00:41:56.345 --> 00:41:58.565
and the dead grass and bear spots still exists,

927
00:41:58.865 --> 00:42:01.045
and that portion of the property is not brought into

928
00:42:01.045 --> 00:42:03.925
compliance within 30 days of the order of enforcement,

929
00:42:04.065 --> 00:42:08.165
impose $150 fine to be paid within 10 days of the invoice

930
00:42:08.385 --> 00:42:10.325
and impose a $50 daily fine

931
00:42:10.325 --> 00:42:12.045
until the property is brought into compliance.

932
00:42:12.745 --> 00:42:15.005
If the weeds are removed, the mold on the home

933
00:42:15.005 --> 00:42:17.165
and rear patio has been removed, and the dead

934
00:42:17.165 --> 00:42:18.965
and missing grass has been receded

935
00:42:18.965 --> 00:42:22.325
and re resetted all within the timeframe specified herein.

936
00:42:22.475 --> 00:42:25.925
Case number D seven dash zero eight dash 25 shall be closed.

937
00:42:26.625 --> 00:42:28.485
It is a property owner's responsibility

938
00:42:28.505 --> 00:42:30.845
to contact the Community Standards Department

939
00:42:30.985 --> 00:42:33.845
to request a deed compliance officer, revisit the property

940
00:42:33.845 --> 00:42:34.965
to confirm compliance.

941
00:42:35.425 --> 00:42:38.445
If the fines reach $1,500, the case shall be turned over

942
00:42:38.445 --> 00:42:41.325
to district counsel to seek all available remedies,

943
00:42:41.325 --> 00:42:42.765
which may include initiating a lawsuit

944
00:42:43.105 --> 00:42:45.445
or seeking an injunction against the property owner.

945
00:42:45.865 --> 00:42:47.725
The property owner is responsible

946
00:42:47.725 --> 00:42:50.845
for reimbursing the district for all attorney's fees, costs,

947
00:42:50.865 --> 00:42:52.605
and expenses associated with

948
00:42:52.785 --> 00:42:55.525
or related to this Order of enforcement chairman

949
00:42:55.585 --> 00:42:57.245
to execute the order of enforcement.

950
00:42:57.245 --> 00:42:59.685
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

951
00:43:00.905 --> 00:43:02.725
Any Questions? Uh, uh,

952
00:43:02.725 --> 00:43:04.605
this might just a quick question.

953
00:43:05.425 --> 00:43:10.245
Now that the, the owner has passed away, who is,

954
00:43:11.785 --> 00:43:14.045
who is the owner in, in reference to all these,

955
00:43:14.625 --> 00:43:15.845
the staff recommendations?

956
00:43:16.715 --> 00:43:18.565
Currently it is still listed

957
00:43:18.625 --> 00:43:20.365
as Ken c Robinson as the homeowner.

958
00:43:21.155 --> 00:43:25.245
Okay. All right. Thank you. State any questions?

959
00:43:25.865 --> 00:43:27.965
No. Julianne? No. There.

960
00:43:28.025 --> 00:43:31.285
So there's been no, as far as we know, there's been no,

961
00:43:32.585 --> 00:43:33.605
no probate set up

962
00:43:33.605 --> 00:43:36.045
Or any other No, we, we've checked for that.

963
00:43:36.265 --> 00:43:38.525
Um, so we haven't seen any type of probate.

964
00:43:38.525 --> 00:43:40.765
We haven't been able to locate any type of family members.

965
00:43:41.305 --> 00:43:43.525
Um, we did try the emergency contact one.

966
00:43:43.525 --> 00:43:44.645
We haven't heard from the other one.

967
00:43:44.645 --> 00:43:45.765
The phone number is disconnected.

968
00:43:46.545 --> 00:43:50.845
Oh. I mean, I don't know if you'd have a crystal ball,

969
00:43:50.945 --> 00:43:55.685
but in that case, what ultimately happens here, I mean,

970
00:43:55.685 --> 00:43:58.925
after seven days, doesn't look like we're gonna be able to

971
00:43:59.955 --> 00:44:01.085
have some resolution

972
00:44:01.225 --> 00:44:04.525
or would obviously the owner's not gonna be doing anything.

973
00:44:05.465 --> 00:44:07.205
That's where you would authorize the district

974
00:44:07.225 --> 00:44:08.325
to come in and maintain it.

975
00:44:08.345 --> 00:44:10.645
We would go ahead. We'd, uh, take care of the grass,

976
00:44:10.745 --> 00:44:13.205
the weeds, and the mold on the home and on the patio.

977
00:44:13.705 --> 00:44:14.705
Uh, we don't address.

978
00:44:16.545 --> 00:44:17.925
That's a good question. How long does

979
00:44:17.925 --> 00:44:19.325
that go on? Until they

980
00:44:19.325 --> 00:44:20.965
Have find accumulation?

981
00:44:20.965 --> 00:44:25.005
Eventually you'll put a lien against the property. No, no,

982
00:44:25.545 --> 00:44:26.545
Not a lien. Um,

983
00:44:26.545 --> 00:44:28.565
but we would work with legal counsel

984
00:44:28.665 --> 00:44:31.285
to see if there's any other opportunity once,

985
00:44:31.285 --> 00:44:34.205
because there is an expense associated with seeking any type

986
00:44:34.205 --> 00:44:37.005
of, um, you know, lawsuit or injunction.

987
00:44:37.145 --> 00:44:39.725
So you'd, you'd wanna ensure that the fines

988
00:44:39.725 --> 00:44:43.045
that were accumulated met that threshold to proceed

989
00:44:43.045 --> 00:44:44.325
with any type of action?

990
00:44:45.185 --> 00:44:48.165
Uh, yes. The amount we're talking about it likely is just a

991
00:44:48.165 --> 00:44:49.525
small claims court claim.

992
00:44:49.825 --> 00:44:52.005
Um, but it'll be, it'll be

993
00:44:52.005 --> 00:44:53.525
through the judicial process at that point.

994
00:44:53.885 --> 00:44:55.645
I mean, it could, it could go up pretty quick.

995
00:44:55.885 --> 00:44:58.525
I mean, if in the fact that we don't have anyone

996
00:44:58.525 --> 00:45:00.245
to contact, I mean, in theory

997
00:45:00.865 --> 00:45:02.965
We have this in the past, is that, is Brittany,

998
00:45:02.985 --> 00:45:04.285
had this ever happened in District seven

999
00:45:05.065 --> 00:45:07.445
or any district where we just go on

1000
00:45:07.545 --> 00:45:09.245
and, you know, what happens?

1001
00:45:10.845 --> 00:45:13.965
I saw somebody in the paper had $26,000 accumulated.

1002
00:45:13.965 --> 00:45:15.045
Correct. They're

1003
00:45:15.045 --> 00:45:16.045
There. I think

1004
00:45:16.045 --> 00:45:18.685
they're there just refusing to do the work here.

1005
00:45:18.685 --> 00:45:20.605
In this case. We're,

1006
00:45:21.185 --> 00:45:22.725
We never had that problem for six seven yet.

1007
00:45:22.725 --> 00:45:24.965
Right. Where we had somebody that put up prolonged,

1008
00:45:25.225 --> 00:45:27.125
uh, for years. And I mean, yeah,

1009
00:45:27.465 --> 00:45:28.965
It varies throughout the district,

1010
00:45:29.105 --> 00:45:31.405
but I will say, just for reference, the fine

1011
00:45:31.405 --> 00:45:34.445
that is imposed is not the actual cost to maintain

1012
00:45:34.445 --> 00:45:35.885
that the district incurs. Yeah.

1013
00:45:36.395 --> 00:45:39.725
Yeah. So they would reimburse, eventually the estate

1014
00:45:39.725 --> 00:45:40.965
Will Reimburse all of it.

1015
00:45:41.305 --> 00:45:44.365
That's, I mean, theoretical typically at the time

1016
00:45:44.365 --> 00:45:45.405
that a, um,

1017
00:45:46.165 --> 00:45:47.165
A house. Correct.

1018
00:45:47.165 --> 00:45:49.205
When they're looking for an estoppel

1019
00:45:49.205 --> 00:45:51.485
and they're looking for any type of outstanding fines,

1020
00:45:51.875 --> 00:45:53.925
they work with the community standards departments

1021
00:45:53.925 --> 00:45:55.085
or a finance department.

1022
00:45:55.085 --> 00:45:56.685
Because typically it's not just,

1023
00:45:57.385 --> 00:45:59.525
it may be community standards related fines.

1024
00:45:59.545 --> 00:46:03.485
It could be past due amenity fees, um, utility fees, things

1025
00:46:03.685 --> 00:46:05.925
of that nature that would all apply

1026
00:46:05.925 --> 00:46:07.885
to the outstanding balance on the property.

1027
00:46:08.105 --> 00:46:09.765
And what's the difference between that and a lien?

1028
00:46:09.905 --> 00:46:12.285
You know, wouldn't that be the same as a lien? You know?

1029
00:46:12.675 --> 00:46:16.925
Yeah. Uh, no, I don't mean to get into the nuts and bolts,

1030
00:46:16.925 --> 00:46:18.285
but I'm just saying, you know, a

1031
00:46:18.725 --> 00:46:22.165
A a lien would pass with the title, um, whereas the,

1032
00:46:22.265 --> 00:46:24.045
the fines that we impose are not, um,

1033
00:46:24.045 --> 00:46:25.205
necessarily tied to that.

1034
00:46:25.315 --> 00:46:27.365
Yeah. Um, I do wanna remind the board and,

1035
00:46:27.465 --> 00:46:30.085
and staff that there was another, uh, member of the public

1036
00:46:30.145 --> 00:46:31.525
who wished to speak on this. See,

1037
00:46:31.955 --> 00:46:33.565
This is gonna come before us again.

1038
00:46:33.605 --> 00:46:36.285
I, yeah. So next. Yes, please come up, give you name. Yeah.

1039
00:46:36.285 --> 00:46:38.405
One quick question. I Why is there,

1040
00:46:39.905 --> 00:46:41.485
is there a mortgage on the property?

1041
00:46:41.945 --> 00:46:44.925
Not that we have. It's been able to, yeah. Know

1042
00:46:46.145 --> 00:46:47.145
So much for a bank.

1043
00:46:47.295 --> 00:46:50.525
Thank you. Give your name, address, please. Thank you.

1044
00:46:51.505 --> 00:46:54.685
Sandra Hanselman, 1566 Holly Berry Place.

1045
00:46:55.505 --> 00:46:57.765
Um, I live across the street from the property.

1046
00:46:58.095 --> 00:46:59.645
Quite a few neighbors are here too,

1047
00:46:59.825 --> 00:47:00.965
and it does look terrible.

1048
00:47:01.525 --> 00:47:04.005
I do have a letter from the property next door.

1049
00:47:04.865 --> 00:47:07.685
Um, they had to move back to be closer to their daughter.

1050
00:47:07.825 --> 00:47:09.645
So they're trying to sell their property,

1051
00:47:09.645 --> 00:47:11.685
which you can understand could be very difficult

1052
00:47:12.475 --> 00:47:13.645
with what's next door.

1053
00:47:14.185 --> 00:47:16.165
So there is a letter from Jim

1054
00:47:16.825 --> 00:47:20.045
and Sue saying this letter formerly reports on the neglected

1055
00:47:20.245 --> 00:47:22.245
property of 1575 Holly Berry Place.

1056
00:47:22.255 --> 00:47:25.045
There are concerns about the ongoing issues stemming from

1057
00:47:25.045 --> 00:47:26.565
the neglected property.

1058
00:47:27.305 --> 00:47:29.805
The impact of this neglect is on the neighborhood,

1059
00:47:29.805 --> 00:47:32.405
includes decreased property value, safety concerns,

1060
00:47:32.575 --> 00:47:33.925
unpleasant aesthetics,

1061
00:47:34.185 --> 00:47:35.965
and the potential for attracting crime.

1062
00:47:36.415 --> 00:47:38.125
There can be no doubt that this abandoned,

1063
00:47:38.525 --> 00:47:41.125
deteriorating home is having a profound effect on the value

1064
00:47:41.745 --> 00:47:43.285
of our property, which is adjacent.

1065
00:47:44.225 --> 00:47:46.405
Um, it goes on just to explain, you know,

1066
00:47:46.405 --> 00:47:48.445
how severely overgrown everything is.

1067
00:47:49.245 --> 00:47:53.865
Um, they did receive a response from Matthew Armstrong.

1068
00:47:55.495 --> 00:47:58.105
Dear Mr. Fields, let me start by apologizing

1069
00:47:58.565 --> 00:48:00.785
for 1575 Holly Berry Place.

1070
00:48:01.245 --> 00:48:03.185
It should have been on the, on August agenda.

1071
00:48:03.215 --> 00:48:04.785
Many of us came here last month,

1072
00:48:05.205 --> 00:48:08.825
but somehow it didn't make the agenda. So we're back. I'm

1073
00:48:08.825 --> 00:48:09.825
Sorry. I must apologize. I

1074
00:48:09.825 --> 00:48:11.585
did get, somebody emailed me

1075
00:48:11.585 --> 00:48:13.745
and I gave that to, uh, the manager

1076
00:48:13.845 --> 00:48:17.105
or director of, uh, the compliance, which is Armstrong.

1077
00:48:17.485 --> 00:48:19.425
Now I do remember. Yes. Okay. Get it.

1078
00:48:19.725 --> 00:48:20.865
We have recognized the, our,

1079
00:48:20.925 --> 00:48:23.185
and we are working towards steps to ensure

1080
00:48:23.185 --> 00:48:24.345
that it doesn't happen again,

1081
00:48:24.515 --> 00:48:27.185
which we're here today at the public hearing.

1082
00:48:27.215 --> 00:48:29.265
Community standards will ask the board

1083
00:48:29.265 --> 00:48:32.065
to enter into an order of enforcement where we can

1084
00:48:32.705 --> 00:48:34.225
maintain the property for its condition,

1085
00:48:34.475 --> 00:48:36.825
which will include mowing, edging, weeding,

1086
00:48:36.825 --> 00:48:40.585
and power washing with regard to reviewing current processes

1087
00:48:40.925 --> 00:48:42.145
for property such as this.

1088
00:48:42.285 --> 00:48:45.385
We are reviewing if there is a way to expedite timelines

1089
00:48:45.925 --> 00:48:47.505
for possible abandoned homes.

1090
00:48:48.315 --> 00:48:49.985
We're also requesting a change

1091
00:48:50.005 --> 00:48:51.465
to the deed compliance process

1092
00:48:51.615 --> 00:48:54.065
that will be brought up at this coming September board

1093
00:48:54.065 --> 00:48:55.465
meeting for the board to consider.

1094
00:48:55.955 --> 00:48:57.505
Again, I apologize for the error.

1095
00:48:57.525 --> 00:48:58.905
We take concern seriously

1096
00:48:59.925 --> 00:49:01.465
and as always want to find

1097
00:49:02.025 --> 00:49:03.905
resolution when it comes to our attention.

1098
00:49:04.285 --> 00:49:05.705
If you would like to discuss further,

1099
00:49:05.965 --> 00:49:07.065
he gives his phone number.

1100
00:49:07.445 --> 00:49:10.985
So I guess the thought is how quickly can they make

1101
00:49:10.985 --> 00:49:13.065
that property look half decent

1102
00:49:13.365 --> 00:49:15.345
so at least they can have the potential

1103
00:49:15.345 --> 00:49:19.465
to sell their property, you know, for a fair market price.

1104
00:49:20.065 --> 00:49:21.385
I mean, right now someone might buy,

1105
00:49:21.385 --> 00:49:23.225
but they're probably gonna really low ball them

1106
00:49:23.415 --> 00:49:25.385
because of the property next door.

1107
00:49:26.295 --> 00:49:27.625
Good question, Brittany.

1108
00:49:27.625 --> 00:49:29.465
There's a way where we could expedite us.

1109
00:49:29.605 --> 00:49:32.305
Of course, we do have it within seven days now,

1110
00:49:32.435 --> 00:49:35.225
which obviously after the seven days,

1111
00:49:35.365 --> 00:49:37.945
can we have the village come in and clean our property up?

1112
00:49:38.645 --> 00:49:41.025
Yes. Currently that staff's recommendation,

1113
00:49:41.165 --> 00:49:44.345
the board does have discretion to shorten that time period.

1114
00:49:44.965 --> 00:49:47.985
Um, it's just an opportunity to provide someone

1115
00:49:48.045 --> 00:49:50.665
to come into compliance within a certain amount of time

1116
00:49:50.755 --> 00:49:52.505
after you sign the order of enforcement.

1117
00:49:53.005 --> 00:49:56.145
Um, but as it stands right now, what's included in there, if

1118
00:49:56.145 --> 00:49:59.785
after seven days there's no, um, attempt

1119
00:49:59.925 --> 00:50:02.545
or improvement to come into compliance, um,

1120
00:50:02.875 --> 00:50:07.025
staff will initiate sending the, the, the landscaper out

1121
00:50:07.245 --> 00:50:08.465
to address the property.

1122
00:50:08.895 --> 00:50:11.185
Okay. So the question is, do the, the board,

1123
00:50:11.185 --> 00:50:12.425
do we wanna wait the seven days

1124
00:50:12.845 --> 00:50:15.905
or do we want to, uh, expedite it and do it right away?

1125
00:50:16.265 --> 00:50:17.505
I, I'd just like to make a motion

1126
00:50:17.505 --> 00:50:19.265
that we immediately let them go.

1127
00:50:19.375 --> 00:50:21.745
It's clear there's nobody to contact. Right. There's nobody.

1128
00:50:22.405 --> 00:50:25.185
And so, you know, emergency action, whatever,

1129
00:50:25.205 --> 00:50:26.665
get 'em out there today if possible

1130
00:50:26.765 --> 00:50:28.725
And start fixing it up.

1131
00:50:28.745 --> 00:50:31.565
And I, because I, it's going to take a, a bit of days

1132
00:50:32.065 --> 00:50:33.725
And I just wanna ask staff if,

1133
00:50:33.985 --> 00:50:36.805
if we've exhausted every option that we have

1134
00:50:36.805 --> 00:50:40.885
to contact somebody along the, uh, chain of title. Okay.

1135
00:50:40.955 --> 00:50:42.765
Four months. So I recommend that we do it right away.

1136
00:50:43.075 --> 00:50:45.125
Yeah. Okay.

1137
00:50:45.145 --> 00:50:48.285
So we That's somewhere in the, when we make the motion.

1138
00:50:48.395 --> 00:50:50.125
Yeah, we, yeah, because that's on the agenda.

1139
00:50:50.305 --> 00:50:53.285
So we could That is, am I right about that? Yeah.

1140
00:50:53.285 --> 00:50:55.045
Everything's closed up and then we make a

1141
00:50:55.165 --> 00:50:56.165
Decision. Yes. But

1142
00:50:56.165 --> 00:50:58.765
my point is we do have this subject on the agenda

1143
00:50:58.825 --> 00:51:00.085
now, uh, Brady, don't we?

1144
00:51:00.395 --> 00:51:01.525
It's coming up. You do.

1145
00:51:01.545 --> 00:51:04.005
But the order of enforcement, I would say

1146
00:51:04.535 --> 00:51:08.125
Right now is Based on our timeline

1147
00:51:08.125 --> 00:51:10.045
as the administrative just procedure,

1148
00:51:10.365 --> 00:51:11.685
I would say tomorrow. Yeah.

1149
00:51:11.875 --> 00:51:14.325
Just, yeah. Are you Comfortable with that? Okay.

1150
00:51:14.795 --> 00:51:16.685
They have no contact. Okay.

1151
00:51:17.105 --> 00:51:19.165
We have, there is another item on the agenda about

1152
00:51:19.605 --> 00:51:20.805
changing the whole thing.

1153
00:51:20.905 --> 00:51:23.365
Yes. But for this one, we can make that emergency.

1154
00:51:23.365 --> 00:51:26.365
There we go. Saying it's obvious nobody's coming in the next

1155
00:51:26.365 --> 00:51:27.845
week, so why wait a week?

1156
00:51:27.985 --> 00:51:29.165
Yes. Let's get it done.

1157
00:51:29.665 --> 00:51:31.645
So it would be effective September 5th?

1158
00:51:31.945 --> 00:51:34.205
Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

1159
00:51:34.745 --> 00:51:38.485
Uh, before, before we do that, let me close, uh, right.

1160
00:51:38.585 --> 00:51:41.125
Any, any more comments? Any any more comments? Uh,

1161
00:51:46.225 --> 00:51:46.445
yes.

1162
00:51:49.485 --> 00:51:51.895
Okay. Um, any more comments on this issue?

1163
00:51:52.355 --> 00:51:53.695
Please come up. Okay.

1164
00:51:54.075 --> 00:51:56.335
He needs to be sworn in. She needs to be sworn in. Yeah,

1165
00:51:56.995 --> 00:51:59.455
He, if if it is public commenting

1166
00:51:59.455 --> 00:52:01.135
On it, why do They need to be sworn in?

1167
00:52:01.135 --> 00:52:02.215
Yeah. It's a public comment

1168
00:52:03.555 --> 00:52:04.815
If they're gonna provide evidence

1169
00:52:04.835 --> 00:52:06.735
and testimony during the Quas judicial.

1170
00:52:06.835 --> 00:52:08.455
I'm just asking if anyone speaking

1171
00:52:08.455 --> 00:52:10.335
during these types of public hearings. Okay. Okay.

1172
00:52:10.485 --> 00:52:12.895
Raymond Jones, 1598 Hall, very please,

1173
00:52:13.235 --> 00:52:14.235
Please. Um, please

1174
00:52:14.235 --> 00:52:16.255
solemnly affirm that the testimony

1175
00:52:16.255 --> 00:52:18.375
and evidence you're about to give in the hearing today will

1176
00:52:18.455 --> 00:52:19.695
be the truth, truth, nothing

1177
00:52:19.695 --> 00:52:20.695
But the Truth. Uh, sure.

1178
00:52:20.695 --> 00:52:21.935
Okay.

1179
00:52:22.605 --> 00:52:24.815
Name? Yes. So, I have a question.

1180
00:52:25.135 --> 00:52:27.255
I can speak up into place. I'm sorry.

1181
00:52:27.255 --> 00:52:30.655
Yeah, I have a question. Uh, 160,000 people.

1182
00:52:31.285 --> 00:52:33.695
This had to happen some other time here in the villages.

1183
00:52:34.395 --> 00:52:39.215
So who takes over to the state takeover the county?

1184
00:52:41.755 --> 00:52:43.815
So there's different scenarios.

1185
00:52:43.915 --> 00:52:45.855
If there's no mortgage on the property,

1186
00:52:46.115 --> 00:52:48.295
it is a more of a challenge.

1187
00:52:48.955 --> 00:52:51.495
Um, I would say there's the opportunity

1188
00:52:51.495 --> 00:52:53.415
that there's unpaid taxes, that it goes

1189
00:52:53.415 --> 00:52:55.655
through a tax deed sale through the county.

1190
00:52:56.435 --> 00:52:57.895
Um, that's a hypothetical.

1191
00:52:58.115 --> 00:53:01.495
Not knowing if they have any type of auto debit set up.

1192
00:53:01.995 --> 00:53:04.335
Um, if they're behind on their utility payments,

1193
00:53:04.335 --> 00:53:07.815
their amenity fees, there's other opportunities to, um,

1194
00:53:07.925 --> 00:53:11.775
take action to, you know, on the asset.

1195
00:53:11.845 --> 00:53:13.655
Yeah. To repay the fines. Well,

1196
00:53:13.655 --> 00:53:15.495
One of the things occurs to me is like if you have no

1197
00:53:15.775 --> 00:53:19.015
electricity, you have no ac, you got mold on the outside,

1198
00:53:19.015 --> 00:53:20.615
you're gonna have mold on the inside,

1199
00:53:20.995 --> 00:53:22.095
in the roof and everything.

1200
00:53:22.195 --> 00:53:24.655
So that means if something doesn't happen soon,

1201
00:53:25.065 --> 00:53:26.405
you're gonna have to gut that house.

1202
00:53:26.745 --> 00:53:28.045
You may clean up the outside,

1203
00:53:28.585 --> 00:53:31.245
but whoever's going to get it inherited

1204
00:53:31.245 --> 00:53:32.925
or whatever, I don't think there's gonna be inheritance.

1205
00:53:32.925 --> 00:53:34.765
But the inside is gonna be terrible too.

1206
00:53:34.825 --> 00:53:38.245
So without some kind of action to address that issue,

1207
00:53:38.245 --> 00:53:39.525
it's just gonna get worse and worse.

1208
00:53:39.785 --> 00:53:42.045
And, I mean, you've gonna have to gut it.

1209
00:53:42.585 --> 00:53:44.885
And as it is right now, the siding looks like would need

1210
00:53:44.885 --> 00:53:46.325
to be taken off the house and replaced

1211
00:53:46.865 --> 00:53:48.805
and God, god knows what else.

1212
00:53:49.125 --> 00:53:50.125
I just wanted to make that point

1213
00:53:50.125 --> 00:53:51.445
because it's only gonna get worse.

1214
00:53:51.505 --> 00:53:54.485
You can pretty up the outside, but it's not gonna work.

1215
00:53:55.965 --> 00:53:57.045
I would say it's a legitimate point.

1216
00:53:57.045 --> 00:53:59.165
This board only has the authority to enforce it.

1217
00:54:00.445 --> 00:54:03.005
Covenanted, um, restrictions. Right.

1218
00:54:03.025 --> 00:54:04.565
Um, currently the property is going

1219
00:54:04.565 --> 00:54:06.165
through the probate process,

1220
00:54:06.255 --> 00:54:08.485
which is a relatively length process.

1221
00:54:08.485 --> 00:54:09.485
Right. Takes a long time. Yes.

1222
00:54:09.625 --> 00:54:10.965
Um, so then

1223
00:54:10.965 --> 00:54:12.485
after that process is taken over,

1224
00:54:12.865 --> 00:54:15.045
the taxi sale could happen, like Brittany says.

1225
00:54:15.145 --> 00:54:17.445
But, um, the, this board does not have any authority

1226
00:54:17.445 --> 00:54:18.725
to weigh in on any of those. Okay.

1227
00:54:18.725 --> 00:54:20.285
I just wanna make that point. 'cause it's not

1228
00:54:20.285 --> 00:54:21.445
gonna get better and

1229
00:54:21.875 --> 00:54:22.875
Yeah. Her view is

1230
00:54:22.875 --> 00:54:24.525
only exterior, not interior.

1231
00:54:24.755 --> 00:54:27.045
Okay. Alright. Thank you very much. Thank

1232
00:54:27.045 --> 00:54:28.045
You. Yeah. Okay.

1233
00:54:28.045 --> 00:54:32.125
Do, uh, any other mo uh, issues?

1234
00:54:33.035 --> 00:54:34.725
Okay, we're gonna close the public hearing

1235
00:54:34.865 --> 00:54:36.245
motion to close the public hearing.

1236
00:54:36.705 --> 00:54:41.245
Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? None.

1237
00:54:42.835 --> 00:54:44.965
It's closed. Okay.

1238
00:54:45.135 --> 00:54:49.005
Let's do, um, board, board discussion and termination.

1239
00:54:49.005 --> 00:54:51.005
Alright. Will we determine? Yeah,

1240
00:54:51.125 --> 00:54:54.125
I, I I think we should, um, go ahead, um,

1241
00:54:54.505 --> 00:54:56.845
and approve the, the staff recommendations

1242
00:54:57.395 --> 00:54:58.565
with the caveat that

1243
00:54:59.715 --> 00:55:02.005
They proceed that it as Soon as possible.

1244
00:55:02.065 --> 00:55:05.405
If that means tomorrow the fifth, that's, that's fine. But,

1245
00:55:05.625 --> 00:55:08.605
Uh, I agree, Steve, I'll agree and let's get

1246
00:55:08.605 --> 00:55:09.645
It taken care of yesterday.

1247
00:55:09.995 --> 00:55:12.645
Yeah. Okay. Judy Ann? Um, I'm fine with that.

1248
00:55:12.825 --> 00:55:13.965
Yep, I agree. Okay.

1249
00:55:14.225 --> 00:55:19.045
Get motion to, um, follow the recommendation of

1250
00:55:19.845 --> 00:55:22.245
property management, right? Is that what I'm

1251
00:55:22.555 --> 00:55:23.555
Case? Um, staff's

1252
00:55:23.555 --> 00:55:24.365
recommendation.

1253
00:55:24.395 --> 00:55:26.325
Staff's recommendation, but the effective date

1254
00:55:26.325 --> 00:55:27.605
of the order of enforcement.

1255
00:55:27.885 --> 00:55:29.805
September 5th. Yes. That,

1256
00:55:30.635 --> 00:55:31.635
Okay. Good. Second, and

1257
00:55:31.635 --> 00:55:34.165
I'll second. You got a second? Okay.

1258
00:55:34.225 --> 00:55:37.365
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none,

1259
00:55:37.695 --> 00:55:38.925
Thank you. Board. I

1260
00:55:38.925 --> 00:55:39.925
Don't have to do.

1261
00:55:41.235 --> 00:55:42.645
Okay. Okay.

1262
00:55:42.785 --> 00:55:47.445
New business, new business, Brittany?

1263
00:55:47.705 --> 00:55:49.125
Yes. Good morning. Board members.

1264
00:55:49.625 --> 00:55:52.645
So on your agenda is the adoption of your goals

1265
00:55:52.645 --> 00:55:55.405
and objectives for fiscal year 25 26?

1266
00:55:55.945 --> 00:55:58.165
Um, this is the second year, um,

1267
00:55:58.185 --> 00:55:59.565
in accordance with state statute.

1268
00:55:59.865 --> 00:56:03.125
Um, the statute change requiring, um, the boards

1269
00:56:03.185 --> 00:56:04.445
to adopt these.

1270
00:56:04.665 --> 00:56:06.685
Um, so these do mirror

1271
00:56:06.915 --> 00:56:09.445
what were adopted in fiscal year 24, 25.

1272
00:56:10.305 --> 00:56:11.885
Um, your current year goals

1273
00:56:11.965 --> 00:56:14.245
and objectives will be reported on in December.

1274
00:56:14.945 --> 00:56:17.965
And this will be for fiscal year 25, 26.

1275
00:56:18.585 --> 00:56:20.405
Um, we did take a look at other

1276
00:56:20.845 --> 00:56:22.125
districts throughout the state of Florida.

1277
00:56:22.495 --> 00:56:25.725
These are in alignment, um, with most of the goals

1278
00:56:25.725 --> 00:56:27.245
and objectives that we reviewed.

1279
00:56:27.385 --> 00:56:30.125
We wanna make sure that they are attainable, um,

1280
00:56:30.225 --> 00:56:32.005
and that when we report on them,

1281
00:56:32.105 --> 00:56:34.845
you are successful in achieving them on an annual basis.

1282
00:56:35.525 --> 00:56:37.165
I think this the first time we've done this goal

1283
00:56:37.515 --> 00:56:38.845
objective last year

1284
00:56:39.505 --> 00:56:40.605
You did them last year,

1285
00:56:40.785 --> 00:56:44.285
and that was the, that was as a result of the statute change

1286
00:56:44.285 --> 00:56:45.965
that you were required to adopt them.

1287
00:56:45.965 --> 00:56:46.965
Okay? Yes.

1288
00:56:47.625 --> 00:56:51.485
Do we have the, I guess the, the systems in place

1289
00:56:52.195 --> 00:56:55.885
empirically to, you know, actually measure

1290
00:56:57.135 --> 00:56:59.165
these goals and objectives and know whether

1291
00:56:59.165 --> 00:57:01.165
or not they've been attained or not?

1292
00:57:01.405 --> 00:57:04.645
I mean, these are, you have to set up performance measures,

1293
00:57:04.695 --> 00:57:08.525
which I think we talked about this almost a year ago.

1294
00:57:08.825 --> 00:57:10.205
And, you know,

1295
00:57:10.205 --> 00:57:12.725
they're really not performance measures per se,

1296
00:57:12.865 --> 00:57:16.245
but, you know, if that's as, as stringent as, you know,

1297
00:57:16.385 --> 00:57:19.205
the government wants to, uh, move forward.

1298
00:57:19.425 --> 00:57:22.605
But in, in all of these that we have, do we have the,

1299
00:57:22.825 --> 00:57:25.485
the systems in place to collect the data necessary

1300
00:57:25.545 --> 00:57:26.645
to evaluate?

1301
00:57:26.835 --> 00:57:29.765
Correct. And we ensured that the goals

1302
00:57:29.765 --> 00:57:32.885
that you are adopting, that we have the justification

1303
00:57:33.265 --> 00:57:36.085
and proof to show that you have in fact achieved them.

1304
00:57:36.355 --> 00:57:40.245
They are in a yes no format. Um, the statute is very vague.

1305
00:57:40.245 --> 00:57:41.645
Mm-hmm. Um, it does not,

1306
00:57:42.825 --> 00:57:44.405
it essentially requires you to adopt them.

1307
00:57:44.425 --> 00:57:47.085
It doesn't say the, um, extent

1308
00:57:47.265 --> 00:57:49.965
or the depth of them other than they just have

1309
00:57:49.965 --> 00:57:51.125
to be reported on annually.

1310
00:57:51.795 --> 00:57:55.565
Okay. I don't remember us doing a, a list of goals.

1311
00:57:56.265 --> 00:57:58.925
Oh, uh, for this, for last year. For this year.

1312
00:57:59.145 --> 00:58:00.605
Am I correct? It's the same. It's the same

1313
00:58:00.605 --> 00:58:01.605
As this one, right? It is. They

1314
00:58:01.605 --> 00:58:02.285
are the same.

1315
00:58:02.395 --> 00:58:05.645
They were adopted for the first time last September.

1316
00:58:06.235 --> 00:58:09.765
Okay. And they will be reported on in the annual

1317
00:58:09.825 --> 00:58:11.405
report in December. Okay.

1318
00:58:12.115 --> 00:58:14.405
Okay. So we will know, we met them goals

1319
00:58:14.575 --> 00:58:17.045
until we see the December, uh, report.

1320
00:58:18.345 --> 00:58:20.085
So all of the goals are functions

1321
00:58:20.085 --> 00:58:21.805
that are already performed.

1322
00:58:21.995 --> 00:58:22.995
Okay.

1323
00:58:24.825 --> 00:58:27.005
So You can go home and rest assured that

1324
00:58:27.005 --> 00:58:28.005
You pass.

1325
00:58:29.555 --> 00:58:33.765
Okay. That's fine. Okay.

1326
00:58:33.765 --> 00:58:37.805
Next one is the, do we need to, we Yeah, we have to, yes.

1327
00:58:37.985 --> 00:58:39.285
If we can get a, please get a motion

1328
00:58:39.345 --> 00:58:40.525
to adopt though. Motion

1329
00:58:40.625 --> 00:58:45.125
To motion to adopt the board Governance

1330
00:58:45.125 --> 00:58:47.725
and accountability objective. Is that what they're

1331
00:58:48.225 --> 00:58:49.225
Yes. For fiscal year

1332
00:58:49.225 --> 00:58:50.645
25, 26, 26.

1333
00:58:50.645 --> 00:58:52.445
Goals and measurements. Yeah. You get second.

1334
00:58:53.465 --> 00:58:57.125
Second. All favor? Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none.

1335
00:58:57.265 --> 00:59:00.925
Motion add. Okay,

1336
00:59:01.355 --> 00:59:04.725
next we got the, uh, um, four B.

1337
00:59:05.865 --> 00:59:07.885
Yes. The next item is consideration

1338
00:59:07.885 --> 00:59:10.805
to adopt a resolution establishing the board's, uh,

1339
00:59:10.805 --> 00:59:12.165
meeting cancellation policy.

1340
00:59:12.825 --> 00:59:16.215
Um, in accordance with your general and procedural rules?

1341
00:59:16.795 --> 00:59:20.215
Um, because of the rule amendment process is more cumbersome

1342
00:59:20.325 --> 00:59:21.805
than adopting a resolution.

1343
00:59:21.905 --> 00:59:23.085
We indicated in there

1344
00:59:23.085 --> 00:59:25.125
that your meeting cancellation policy

1345
00:59:25.375 --> 00:59:26.725
would be by resolution.

1346
00:59:26.945 --> 00:59:28.805
So in the event you ever wanted to change it,

1347
00:59:28.945 --> 00:59:31.285
it could be noticed on a meeting without a

1348
00:59:31.445 --> 00:59:32.525
a public hearing format.

1349
00:59:33.345 --> 00:59:37.445
Um, so this is really to, um, solidify how you would like

1350
00:59:37.445 --> 00:59:40.565
to proceed with any type of cancellation policy.

1351
00:59:41.505 --> 00:59:45.005
As you're aware, we very rarely have a situation

1352
00:59:45.005 --> 00:59:46.285
where there's no new business.

1353
00:59:46.865 --> 00:59:48.365
Um, but in the event there is,

1354
00:59:48.545 --> 00:59:51.445
or in the event of inclement weather, things of that nature,

1355
00:59:51.755 --> 00:59:54.085
this would establish the procedure that staff would follow.

1356
00:59:55.065 --> 00:59:57.965
Um, so there are three options that are available to you.

1357
00:59:58.625 --> 00:59:59.765
Um, I will tell you

1358
00:59:59.765 --> 01:00:02.525
that the districts throughout the community all select

1359
01:00:03.035 --> 01:00:05.325
varying options that are listed there.

1360
01:00:05.825 --> 01:00:09.605
Um, the first option is that staff would contact the chair,

1361
01:00:10.145 --> 01:00:12.125
um, inquire within each supervisor

1362
01:00:12.185 --> 01:00:14.205
and the chair would make the final determination.

1363
01:00:14.825 --> 01:00:16.365
Um, I do wanna put on the record, we,

1364
01:00:16.565 --> 01:00:19.845
we would not be polling on whether or not you are in favor

1365
01:00:20.145 --> 01:00:22.685
or, um, not of holding the meeting.

1366
01:00:22.825 --> 01:00:25.205
It would be to identify if there were any items

1367
01:00:25.905 --> 01:00:28.445
or residents that you expected to attend

1368
01:00:28.555 --> 01:00:31.165
that staff was not aware of before the meeting was canceled.

1369
01:00:32.945 --> 01:00:34.925
Um, the op, the second option would be

1370
01:00:35.085 --> 01:00:37.845
that it would be at the, um, chair's discretion,

1371
01:00:37.845 --> 01:00:39.365
that staff would contact the chair.

1372
01:00:39.785 --> 01:00:42.525
Um, we would still provide notification to the board

1373
01:00:42.525 --> 01:00:43.645
that the meeting was canceled,

1374
01:00:43.865 --> 01:00:45.885
but it ultimately would fall to the chair.

1375
01:00:46.545 --> 01:00:48.165
Um, and option three is

1376
01:00:48.165 --> 01:00:50.445
that no board meetings would be canceled due

1377
01:00:50.445 --> 01:00:51.765
to lack of actionable items.

1378
01:00:52.505 --> 01:00:56.165
Um, we do have some boards that are adamant that regardless

1379
01:00:56.305 --> 01:00:59.325
of the date, time, location, that no meetings are canceled.

1380
01:01:00.915 --> 01:01:03.685
Okay. Would you, ed, what's your view?

1381
01:01:07.125 --> 01:01:11.885
I, I think I would probably leave it up to the chair Yep.

1382
01:01:11.945 --> 01:01:16.085
To decide. I think that's the most direct

1383
01:01:16.225 --> 01:01:18.085
and least cumbersome

1384
01:01:18.265 --> 01:01:21.245
and probably the,

1385
01:01:21.555 --> 01:01:23.005
I'll be Honest, the most streamlined

1386
01:01:23.415 --> 01:01:24.415
Being the chair. I

1387
01:01:24.415 --> 01:01:27.245
honestly, and I honestly believe that, I like the idea

1388
01:01:27.345 --> 01:01:29.285
of asking the other supervisors

1389
01:01:29.285 --> 01:01:31.885
because we don't talk to each other, but we are not allowed

1390
01:01:31.885 --> 01:01:34.725
because of, uh, the Florida, uh, sun Sunshine.

1391
01:01:34.725 --> 01:01:36.565
Yeah. Sunshine Law. We can't talk to each other.

1392
01:01:37.025 --> 01:01:38.685
Uh, any item that made

1393
01:01:38.755 --> 01:01:41.165
that is on the agenda come up on board supervisor.

1394
01:01:41.165 --> 01:01:42.765
Yeah. So I like the idea.

1395
01:01:42.865 --> 01:01:44.885
You may have something, somebody on this board may have

1396
01:01:44.885 --> 01:01:48.085
something that's hot or they wanted to come up that month.

1397
01:01:48.945 --> 01:01:52.325
Um, it's only right that you have the right to have your,

1398
01:01:52.385 --> 01:01:54.445
you know, and obviously then you come back to this chair.

1399
01:01:54.785 --> 01:01:56.245
But I honestly like to be, uh,

1400
01:01:56.465 --> 01:01:58.525
So if, if one, the second one, if one,

1401
01:01:58.825 --> 01:02:01.205
if one board supervisor wants to hold it,

1402
01:02:01.795 --> 01:02:03.845
that it would still be held, then Yeah.

1403
01:02:03.995 --> 01:02:05.125
They would have the wherewithal.

1404
01:02:05.355 --> 01:02:06.485
Yeah. Because, you know,

1405
01:02:06.485 --> 01:02:08.325
you're elected fix just like I am.

1406
01:02:08.425 --> 01:02:09.885
And, uh, I honestly believe

1407
01:02:09.885 --> 01:02:12.125
that you should have say, and that's my opinion.

1408
01:02:12.475 --> 01:02:14.045
Okay. I can, I can go ahead along with

1409
01:02:14.045 --> 01:02:15.045
That. It's a, the

1410
01:02:15.045 --> 01:02:17.885
Idea if we've taken, I'm sorry.

1411
01:02:18.305 --> 01:02:21.805
No, no, please go ahead. Uh, the idea of just

1412
01:02:22.555 --> 01:02:24.805
canceling, because there's nothing on the agenda

1413
01:02:26.295 --> 01:02:29.455
I have a problem with, because the first thing we ever do is

1414
01:02:29.515 --> 01:02:31.695
see if there's any comments from the community.

1415
01:02:31.875 --> 01:02:33.055
If there's a hot issue.

1416
01:02:33.995 --> 01:02:36.455
If you want to ask the person to wait for two months, I,

1417
01:02:37.015 --> 01:02:38.735
I don't think that's a good idea. I

1418
01:02:38.735 --> 01:02:39.735
Agree. I agree.

1419
01:02:39.735 --> 01:02:43.495
I mean, Julian, generally speaking,

1420
01:02:43.875 --> 01:02:46.015
if we're having a hurricane, then, you know, the

1421
01:02:46.555 --> 01:02:48.175
rec center's closed, that would be a reason

1422
01:02:48.235 --> 01:02:50.055
to cancel a meeting no matter what's on the agenda.

1423
01:02:50.055 --> 01:02:52.055
Sure. And you can just reschedule it somewhere around that.

1424
01:02:52.235 --> 01:02:56.095
But I, I mean, I know that the districts

1425
01:02:56.095 --> 01:02:57.495
that like don't meet in December

1426
01:02:57.835 --> 01:02:59.655
or whatever, we've always met

1427
01:03:00.365 --> 01:03:02.455
because we always have a hot stuff.

1428
01:03:02.595 --> 01:03:05.295
No, we canceled. We canceled I think one time, uh,

1429
01:03:06.035 --> 01:03:10.095
we canceled, we more canceled on that Christmas month than,

1430
01:03:10.095 --> 01:03:12.575
than had a meeting, I think one month in the last 12 years.

1431
01:03:12.695 --> 01:03:14.775
I think we had one meeting in Christmas month. Right.

1432
01:03:14.915 --> 01:03:17.695
So, but there's nothing on those agendas. Yeah.

1433
01:03:17.755 --> 01:03:19.335
But Steve has a good, a good,

1434
01:03:19.435 --> 01:03:22.055
but there may be something hot that you don't, I don't know

1435
01:03:22.055 --> 01:03:23.255
that, you know, Brittany's coming.

1436
01:03:23.915 --> 01:03:25.295
So I get an email saying they

1437
01:03:25.295 --> 01:03:26.415
want to come and discuss something.

1438
01:03:26.495 --> 01:03:28.455
I can't tell you that they're coming to discuss. Right.

1439
01:03:28.555 --> 01:03:30.135
And I don't have time. You tell Brittany and she Yeah.

1440
01:03:30.135 --> 01:03:31.735
And I don't have time to put it on the agenda.

1441
01:03:31.975 --> 01:03:33.815
'cause it's seven days. You gotta have it in

1442
01:03:33.815 --> 01:03:35.295
advance if that happens.

1443
01:03:35.775 --> 01:03:37.855
I, so, yeah. But that's just my opinion.

1444
01:03:38.195 --> 01:03:40.055
No, I, I'm not questioning that.

1445
01:03:40.715 --> 01:03:43.375
We should all be contacted individually and asked,

1446
01:03:43.555 --> 01:03:46.695
but I don't foresee that where Yeah.

1447
01:03:46.815 --> 01:03:48.815
I, I don't see us canceling meetings

1448
01:03:48.815 --> 01:03:51.375
with agendas other than, uh, seriously.

1449
01:03:51.515 --> 01:03:52.695
So, yeah.

1450
01:03:52.795 --> 01:03:55.175
And in this, regardless of the circumstance,

1451
01:03:55.515 --> 01:03:58.215
it would set the, the expectations of

1452
01:03:58.275 --> 01:03:59.415
how we would communicate.

1453
01:03:59.655 --> 01:04:01.615
'cause we can't arbitrarily cancel your meeting.

1454
01:04:01.985 --> 01:04:03.895
Right, exactly. Yeah. Why not?

1455
01:04:04.485 --> 01:04:05.895
Yeah. So I, I, I really question.

1456
01:04:05.895 --> 01:04:08.895
I I think Steve makes a great comment or great point,

1457
01:04:09.165 --> 01:04:12.015
because we never know what, who's gonna attend

1458
01:04:12.115 --> 01:04:13.255
and what they might bring up.

1459
01:04:13.315 --> 01:04:17.375
And as a perfect example is today we had the, uh,

1460
01:04:17.795 --> 01:04:18.895
the Holly Berry place.

1461
01:04:18.895 --> 01:04:20.935
Mm-hmm. Somebody could have come, I mean,

1462
01:04:20.935 --> 01:04:24.575
we got pictures going back into June when this place was

1463
01:04:24.575 --> 01:04:27.055
totally out of compliance back then.

1464
01:04:27.635 --> 01:04:30.135
One of the residents could have come up, brought it up,

1465
01:04:30.635 --> 01:04:31.775
and it would've been advanced.

1466
01:04:32.035 --> 01:04:33.895
It would've been resolved in the June meeting.

1467
01:04:33.915 --> 01:04:36.015
But in the July meeting, we would've for sure,

1468
01:04:37.275 --> 01:04:39.615
in all likelihood, made an emergency resolution

1469
01:04:39.675 --> 01:04:40.935
to get it fixed up.

1470
01:04:41.355 --> 01:04:42.655
And it would've gotten taken care

1471
01:04:42.655 --> 01:04:44.775
of a lot sooner than it is going to get taken care of now.

1472
01:04:45.195 --> 01:04:46.195
So,

1473
01:04:46.875 --> 01:04:48.495
So what option would we like to go with?

1474
01:04:48.635 --> 01:04:51.295
Option is option two, the one where Right.

1475
01:04:51.355 --> 01:04:52.615
You would notify all of us.

1476
01:04:53.275 --> 01:04:56.255
No, I think Option one. Option. That's option one.

1477
01:04:56.255 --> 01:04:58.935
Option one. Option option one. Motion to approve Option one.

1478
01:05:00.075 --> 01:05:03.655
No. Was that the motion that we discussed where they Yeah,

1479
01:05:03.655 --> 01:05:05.135
I, I go along with that, I think,

1480
01:05:05.515 --> 01:05:06.975
and that would, uh, motion one.

1481
01:05:06.975 --> 01:05:09.215
Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. Now do I again, motion.

1482
01:05:09.635 --> 01:05:14.055
Motion to approve mo option one. Okay. Second. Second.

1483
01:05:14.835 --> 01:05:19.125
All in favor A. Aye. Any, uh, disapprove or opposed? None.

1484
01:05:19.425 --> 01:05:22.565
Motion. Thank you. Okay.

1485
01:05:25.295 --> 01:05:26.295
She's back.

1486
01:05:27.985 --> 01:05:32.085
We, We haven't seen in a long time. Least

1487
01:05:34.015 --> 01:05:37.045
Thank you for the welcoming, uh, good Morning board,

1488
01:05:37.045 --> 01:05:38.285
Melissa Shaw purchasing.

1489
01:05:38.745 --> 01:05:41.045
Yes. This item provides the board with information

1490
01:05:41.115 --> 01:05:42.925
regarding the award of request

1491
01:05:42.925 --> 01:05:45.925
for proposals 25 P dash 0 1 9,

1492
01:05:46.445 --> 01:05:50.605
district seven Solar Street Lighting project, rebid to, um,

1493
01:05:50.785 --> 01:05:54.005
Helios Avalon, LLC at the highest ranked firm

1494
01:05:54.225 --> 01:05:55.445
by the selection committee.

1495
01:05:56.065 --> 01:05:57.565
Uh, just to give you a brief overview

1496
01:05:57.565 --> 01:06:01.045
and for the audience, um, on May 22nd, 2025,

1497
01:06:01.175 --> 01:06:06.045
staff issued RFP 25 P dash 0 1 9 rebid three,

1498
01:06:06.225 --> 01:06:07.925
uh, vendors submitted proposals.

1499
01:06:07.945 --> 01:06:10.565
And two, uh, vendors were determined,

1500
01:06:10.615 --> 01:06:12.165
responsive, and responsible.

1501
01:06:12.585 --> 01:06:16.325
The selection committee met on July 10th, 2025 to score

1502
01:06:16.325 --> 01:06:17.605
and rank the two proponents.

1503
01:06:17.605 --> 01:06:21.965
According to the criteria in the RFP Helio scoring, uh,

1504
01:06:21.975 --> 01:06:25.365
376 out of 500 points,

1505
01:06:25.425 --> 01:06:29.565
and Renovo 291 points out of 500 points.

1506
01:06:30.265 --> 01:06:33.685
On July 28th, 2025, the board held a workshop

1507
01:06:33.705 --> 01:06:34.845
for the vendors, uh,

1508
01:06:34.915 --> 01:06:38.165
presentations in which representatives from Helios

1509
01:06:38.185 --> 01:06:39.885
and Renovo participated.

1510
01:06:41.225 --> 01:06:44.685
Uh, following the review of this information, excuse me, uh,

1511
01:06:44.685 --> 01:06:46.325
staff put together several discussion

1512
01:06:46.325 --> 01:06:47.405
points for the board today.

1513
01:06:48.185 --> 01:06:51.365
Um, the board may reject all proposals within the district's

1514
01:06:51.365 --> 01:06:54.285
procurement rules and policies in Florida law.

1515
01:06:54.505 --> 01:06:58.645
If the board determines the proposed costs are too high,

1516
01:06:59.345 --> 01:07:00.885
or the board determines it is

1517
01:07:00.885 --> 01:07:02.885
otherwise in the district's best interest

1518
01:07:02.985 --> 01:07:06.325
to do the following, um, not enough responsive proposals,

1519
01:07:07.105 --> 01:07:08.765
or they feel the following.

1520
01:07:08.765 --> 01:07:11.325
Um, not enough responsive proposals, uh,

1521
01:07:11.395 --> 01:07:13.205
were submitted to be competitive.

1522
01:07:13.585 --> 01:07:15.245
Uh, the scores are so low

1523
01:07:15.305 --> 01:07:18.165
to indicate the rank proposals do not demonstrate a quality

1524
01:07:18.385 --> 01:07:20.765
of the work the district seeks, uh,

1525
01:07:21.065 --> 01:07:23.765
or when an existing arrangement is more financially

1526
01:07:23.765 --> 01:07:25.165
advantageous for the district.

1527
01:07:25.545 --> 01:07:27.925
And, um, the next option would be

1528
01:07:27.925 --> 01:07:29.445
to re-lit for the services.

1529
01:07:30.065 --> 01:07:32.725
So at this time, staff is requesting the board review,

1530
01:07:32.725 --> 01:07:35.645
discuss and provide direction on whether to award

1531
01:07:35.645 --> 01:07:38.765
to Helios Avalon, LLC as the highest ranked firm

1532
01:07:38.865 --> 01:07:41.685
for RFP 25 P dash 0 1 9

1533
01:07:42.365 --> 01:07:46.445
District Solar Street Lighting Project Rebid as recommended

1534
01:07:46.465 --> 01:07:49.245
by the selection committee to modify rankings,

1535
01:07:49.625 --> 01:07:50.765
reject all bids,

1536
01:07:51.145 --> 01:07:54.485
or reject all bids in favor of reissuing the RFT.

1537
01:07:54.905 --> 01:07:56.765
And, uh, I'll open up for discussion.

1538
01:07:57.395 --> 01:08:00.605
Okay. We thought, uh, I'll get mine, ed.

1539
01:08:01.185 --> 01:08:04.845
Uh, yeah, I think, didn't we have a several

1540
01:08:05.545 --> 01:08:08.725
action items or things that we wanted to

1541
01:08:09.955 --> 01:08:12.205
have accomplished to come back to us?

1542
01:08:12.485 --> 01:08:17.365
I think, wasn't it negotiations with CCO or, uh, yes.

1543
01:08:17.505 --> 01:08:18.925
Yes. The letter. Yes, it was,

1544
01:08:18.925 --> 01:08:20.925
it was a letter on the, uh, poll removal.

1545
01:08:21.065 --> 01:08:23.325
And I think I also asked kind of the question,

1546
01:08:23.945 --> 01:08:28.565
can we withhold payment if they are not providing the lumens

1547
01:08:28.565 --> 01:08:30.165
that, you know, was in the agreement?

1548
01:08:30.245 --> 01:08:32.365
I don't know how specific that agreement is.

1549
01:08:33.365 --> 01:08:34.485
I think Mike, because If they're not,

1550
01:08:34.865 --> 01:08:38.125
if they're not delivering to us, um, what was,

1551
01:08:38.275 --> 01:08:40.605
what was agreed to, what recourse do we

1552
01:08:40.605 --> 01:08:41.605
Have? Mike, Mike, Mike, uh,

1553
01:08:41.605 --> 01:08:44.605
gonna do a letter on the, uh, wound

1554
01:08:44.945 --> 01:08:48.045
of the qua qua of the lighting that they give us.

1555
01:08:48.065 --> 01:08:50.205
Now the seco given us. Now, can he do that letter?

1556
01:08:51.185 --> 01:08:53.325
Not yet. Um, he let me know that, um,

1557
01:08:53.375 --> 01:08:56.445
we're still in the review process of the, the agreements,

1558
01:08:56.585 --> 01:08:59.325
um, none that I've reviewed so far speak to any

1559
01:08:59.845 --> 01:09:02.685
required level of luminosity from the bold.

1560
01:09:02.815 --> 01:09:05.725
Right. And so I'm finding, uh, so I'm making sure

1561
01:09:05.725 --> 01:09:08.085
that I'm turning every page to make sure

1562
01:09:08.085 --> 01:09:10.325
that there isn't another avenue.

1563
01:09:11.025 --> 01:09:13.805
Um, certainly if the contract provides

1564
01:09:13.805 --> 01:09:17.045
for a certain default, there has to be some sort of remedy.

1565
01:09:17.265 --> 01:09:19.645
But that, but that's what we are researching at this time.

1566
01:09:20.305 --> 01:09:24.285
Um, they also provided access to copies of the agreement,

1567
01:09:24.285 --> 01:09:26.005
however, did not allow for download.

1568
01:09:26.065 --> 01:09:29.805
So there's some logistical issues I'm having reviewing these

1569
01:09:30.125 --> 01:09:32.045
contracts, um, that I, you know,

1570
01:09:32.045 --> 01:09:33.725
we are making sure we're doing all

1571
01:09:33.725 --> 01:09:34.885
due diligence to review same things.

1572
01:09:35.385 --> 01:09:36.605
Is there a State requirement?

1573
01:09:37.905 --> 01:09:39.805
Um, that I was not aware

1574
01:09:39.805 --> 01:09:41.285
that there will be a state requirement,

1575
01:09:41.305 --> 01:09:43.125
but I, I will look into that.

1576
01:09:43.545 --> 01:09:45.165
The problem is we can't make a decision.

1577
01:09:45.485 --> 01:09:46.725
I, that's my thought is we can't make,

1578
01:09:46.725 --> 01:09:47.885
we can't make a decision on this

1579
01:09:48.025 --> 01:09:49.325
and that, what, it's a last month.

1580
01:09:49.395 --> 01:09:52.125
Hold on one second. We can't make a decision on this till we

1581
01:09:52.125 --> 01:09:53.245
know, you know,

1582
01:09:53.705 --> 01:09:56.125
that's big number 200 something thousand dollars

1583
01:09:56.125 --> 01:09:57.165
off that number two.

1584
01:09:57.505 --> 01:09:59.685
So you Yeah, two 50 to charge us to remove it.

1585
01:10:00.035 --> 01:10:01.645
That where are we gonna get that money from?

1586
01:10:01.645 --> 01:10:04.285
It don't make it feasible. Without that information,

1587
01:10:05.305 --> 01:10:07.325
it doesn't make any sense for it even

1588
01:10:07.385 --> 01:10:09.245
to do this, to even, you know.

1589
01:10:09.585 --> 01:10:12.005
So at that point, you ahead to, I I have a question.

1590
01:10:12.315 --> 01:10:15.125
When we had the last meeting, when we discussed this,

1591
01:10:15.725 --> 01:10:17.205
I thought there was a clear decision

1592
01:10:17.205 --> 01:10:18.645
that we were not moving forward

1593
01:10:18.795 --> 01:10:20.445
with the Sola proposal at all.

1594
01:10:20.945 --> 01:10:25.485
And this is confirmation of that, that we're gonna deny all

1595
01:10:26.035 --> 01:10:29.045
bids because the, the cost of it was so extreme.

1596
01:10:29.305 --> 01:10:32.245
It didn't, it doesn't, this is information we need anyway.

1597
01:10:32.385 --> 01:10:34.365
Yes. But that does not affect the

1598
01:10:34.365 --> 01:10:35.805
recommendation of this. Correct.

1599
01:10:36.465 --> 01:10:38.005
We have options Yes. In there.

1600
01:10:38.005 --> 01:10:39.405
And that is one of the options. One of

1601
01:10:39.405 --> 01:10:41.205
The options is that we're just not going to

1602
01:10:42.395 --> 01:10:43.395
Correct. Correct.

1603
01:10:43.395 --> 01:10:45.525
And that, that was that recommendation

1604
01:10:45.545 --> 01:10:47.605
or understanding based on the last meeting.

1605
01:10:47.825 --> 01:10:50.725
You're correct. But the reason why, though, in my opinion,

1606
01:10:50.745 --> 01:10:52.965
the reason why we can't, uh, accept any,

1607
01:10:52.965 --> 01:10:54.325
because we we're not accepting

1608
01:10:54.625 --> 01:10:55.805
and we're gonna deny them all.

1609
01:10:55.875 --> 01:10:58.645
Yeah. Yeah. And so obviously this all goes out the window.

1610
01:10:58.645 --> 01:11:00.765
We're not gonna address this at point. Right.

1611
01:11:00.765 --> 01:11:02.605
So Ed's question is

1612
01:11:02.605 --> 01:11:04.645
that there was more information we had requested,

1613
01:11:04.905 --> 01:11:08.645
and we requested that outside of not doing solar,

1614
01:11:08.835 --> 01:11:11.125
because we still needed an answer to that question.

1615
01:11:11.585 --> 01:11:14.370
But I thought it was clear that the cost of doing it

1616
01:11:14.395 --> 01:11:16.805
with any of the providers was prohibitive.

1617
01:11:16.905 --> 01:11:18.205
It was gonna cost us more.

1618
01:11:19.155 --> 01:11:20.965
Well that To do it than not do it.

1619
01:11:21.105 --> 01:11:23.165
And that we would look at this again in the future.

1620
01:11:23.715 --> 01:11:28.405
Well, that is based upon CCOs suddenly not needing all the

1621
01:11:28.405 --> 01:11:30.405
money that they request.

1622
01:11:30.625 --> 01:11:32.725
Now, let me finish. Okay.

1623
01:11:33.345 --> 01:11:36.925
Now, based on what CCO has come back with,

1624
01:11:39.105 --> 01:11:41.365
it pretty much ties our hands as what to do.

1625
01:11:41.745 --> 01:11:45.325
Yes. My concern is that in a year

1626
01:11:45.325 --> 01:11:49.365
or so, when we lose all the solar credit,

1627
01:11:51.105 --> 01:11:53.365
CCO comes back and said, well, we made another mistake

1628
01:11:53.365 --> 01:11:54.685
and we're gonna need the rest of it.

1629
01:11:56.875 --> 01:11:59.805
Well, now, one, one of the things that was requested is

1630
01:11:59.805 --> 01:12:03.565
that we asked CCO if they would provide a limitation

1631
01:12:03.705 --> 01:12:05.165
to their annual increase.

1632
01:12:05.705 --> 01:12:07.005
Did we get a response on that?

1633
01:12:08.785 --> 01:12:11.205
No. So that is information that legal

1634
01:12:11.545 --> 01:12:13.725
and district staff are still working through

1635
01:12:13.745 --> 01:12:15.525
and reviewing all of that information.

1636
01:12:15.625 --> 01:12:19.205
And that will be my understanding communicated at once based

1637
01:12:19.205 --> 01:12:20.325
on the board's direction.

1638
01:12:20.985 --> 01:12:23.965
Now, I just wanna clarify, the information that's

1639
01:12:23.965 --> 01:12:25.645
before you today is independent of

1640
01:12:25.645 --> 01:12:28.285
that communication with cco. So we do need to

1641
01:12:28.285 --> 01:12:30.205
Bring Some final, our

1642
01:12:30.665 --> 01:12:34.085
Has to base be based on what is best for the residents,

1643
01:12:34.085 --> 01:12:35.805
what's gonna keep their cost to a minimum.

1644
01:12:36.105 --> 01:12:38.125
Yes. And if we don't have the information on

1645
01:12:38.125 --> 01:12:40.285
what CCOs doing, how can we press

1646
01:12:40.285 --> 01:12:41.485
forward with anything? See,

1647
01:12:41.485 --> 01:12:42.485
The problem is I agree.

1648
01:12:42.685 --> 01:12:44.645
I agree both with all statements

1649
01:12:44.645 --> 01:12:46.565
because we can't make a decision on this

1650
01:12:47.115 --> 01:12:50.565
that this has an impact on us, you know,

1651
01:12:51.035 --> 01:12:52.045
putting out the bid.

1652
01:12:52.065 --> 01:12:54.045
We don't, you know, but I agree with you. Yes.

1653
01:12:54.285 --> 01:12:57.005
I I understand where we're at. So we had a package. Yes.

1654
01:12:57.145 --> 01:13:00.805
It was gonna be $41,000 a month. Yes. Okay.

1655
01:13:01.945 --> 01:13:05.485
Not doing anything was only $31,000 a month. Right.

1656
01:13:05.685 --> 01:13:07.285
I cannot, in good conscience, I agree.

1657
01:13:07.475 --> 01:13:09.925
Tell everybody in the villages in District seven

1658
01:13:10.155 --> 01:13:12.605
that we're gonna charge 'em an extra $10,000 a month

1659
01:13:12.665 --> 01:13:14.205
for the next four years. Mm-hmm.

1660
01:13:15.075 --> 01:13:17.965
Yeah. Yes. Uh, I'm sorry. I agree. Yeah.

1661
01:13:17.965 --> 01:13:22.125
So I that I, we do need this information for future use,

1662
01:13:22.425 --> 01:13:23.925
but it does not affect whether

1663
01:13:23.925 --> 01:13:25.685
or not we're gonna go forward with this bid.

1664
01:13:25.795 --> 01:13:27.525
Yeah. I, I don't see how it affects

1665
01:13:27.585 --> 01:13:29.005
how we're going forward with this bid.

1666
01:13:29.545 --> 01:13:34.005
And yes, we might have to pay $220,000 to have pole removal,

1667
01:13:34.425 --> 01:13:35.685
but we're not gonna pay that

1668
01:13:35.685 --> 01:13:38.405
because we're still not gonna charge the residents $10,000 a

1669
01:13:38.405 --> 01:13:39.965
month more with solar.

1670
01:13:40.035 --> 01:13:41.405
Then we would with seco.

1671
01:13:42.025 --> 01:13:44.725
If SECO makes a change a year from now, then we work

1672
01:13:44.725 --> 01:13:45.805
with that a year from now.

1673
01:13:46.345 --> 01:13:50.045
So when we all started this, there was no solar credit.

1674
01:13:50.515 --> 01:13:51.765
Then we got solar credit.

1675
01:13:52.715 --> 01:13:55.005
Seco used that solar credit to do research.

1676
01:13:55.445 --> 01:13:58.125
I, I get all that, but I'm, I'm,

1677
01:14:00.465 --> 01:14:02.725
the extraneous conversations are important,

1678
01:14:03.305 --> 01:14:06.885
but they don't affect this is to either give the bid

1679
01:14:06.985 --> 01:14:08.005
or not give the bid.

1680
01:14:08.505 --> 01:14:11.925
And I, I thought we were pretty clear a month ago

1681
01:14:11.955 --> 01:14:15.925
that we weren't going upcharge the residents for something

1682
01:14:15.925 --> 01:14:18.085
that 20 years from now we still don't own.

1683
01:14:19.185 --> 01:14:21.445
And we go through it all over again. So I, I agree.

1684
01:14:21.465 --> 01:14:24.685
So the, my the way it sounds to me is, my opinion is

1685
01:14:24.685 --> 01:14:28.325
that we obviously don't go into any bid.

1686
01:14:28.545 --> 01:14:30.965
We just, obviously, it's just too costly for us

1687
01:14:31.145 --> 01:14:33.285
and we still get this information.

1688
01:14:33.515 --> 01:14:36.405
Yeah. We, yeah. And that, you know, yes.

1689
01:14:36.405 --> 01:14:39.165
Regarding the luminosity future, they would be

1690
01:14:39.235 --> 01:14:40.965
that they do have any plans for that.

1691
01:14:40.965 --> 01:14:43.765
The problem, obviously, the cost of that is that the, um,

1692
01:14:44.585 --> 01:14:48.925
the, they're gonna end up, we're gonna lose the tax credit

1693
01:14:49.025 --> 01:14:51.765
or for if we ever did go, but, and,

1694
01:14:51.785 --> 01:14:53.005
and we don't know that we ever

1695
01:14:53.005 --> 01:14:54.245
would've gotten the tax credit.

1696
01:14:54.515 --> 01:14:56.365
Some company would've gotten it, but we wouldn't have.

1697
01:14:56.665 --> 01:14:59.205
But the whole thing is we need the information,

1698
01:14:59.505 --> 01:15:02.285
but it, what we are trying to do with that information

1699
01:15:02.835 --> 01:15:07.765
clearly was to have them hasten the installation

1700
01:15:07.765 --> 01:15:10.925
of the LED lights, Paco's gotta put, replace them all

1701
01:15:10.925 --> 01:15:13.045
with LED lights, but they're taking their sweet time.

1702
01:15:13.625 --> 01:15:15.245
We were hoping that if we found

1703
01:15:15.245 --> 01:15:17.685
that they were not delivering on luminosity, that

1704
01:15:17.685 --> 01:15:18.965
that would increase the speed

1705
01:15:18.965 --> 01:15:20.565
with which they put the LED lights in.

1706
01:15:20.905 --> 01:15:22.165
So that would decrease cost.

1707
01:15:22.265 --> 01:15:25.965
But that, that's aside from whether

1708
01:15:25.965 --> 01:15:27.525
or not we're gonna award a bid.

1709
01:15:27.635 --> 01:15:29.285
Yeah. But we were hoping that the cost

1710
01:15:29.285 --> 01:15:32.485
that they were charging for, uh, the, the poles

1711
01:15:32.485 --> 01:15:34.845
and license that they have, that they, they're leasing

1712
01:15:34.845 --> 01:15:36.525
to us, that they own, that they're

1713
01:15:36.645 --> 01:15:37.725
charging us to remove 'em.

1714
01:15:37.825 --> 01:15:40.325
We, we were under misconception or maybe right

1715
01:15:40.325 --> 01:15:42.885
or wrong, that we wouldn't have to pay for that.

1716
01:15:42.955 --> 01:15:44.485
They would be responsible for that.

1717
01:15:44.835 --> 01:15:47.485
Obviously they're saying, no, we're responsible for that,

1718
01:15:47.515 --> 01:15:48.725
that becomes another problem.

1719
01:15:49.225 --> 01:15:50.365
So that's you. Right.

1720
01:15:50.385 --> 01:15:52.445
And, and that's something else that you're working on,

1721
01:15:52.465 --> 01:15:54.885
on the side, but it does not change exactly

1722
01:15:55.395 --> 01:15:57.685
what was the bid said it was gonna cost.

1723
01:15:57.925 --> 01:15:59.045
I agree. Okay.

1724
01:16:00.175 --> 01:16:02.885
Based upon that discussion, we reject all

1725
01:16:02.915 --> 01:16:03.915
Bids. Yes. Yep.

1726
01:16:03.915 --> 01:16:04.645
I agree.

1727
01:16:06.165 --> 01:16:08.245
I agree. Reject all bids. Yeah. I'm sorry.

1728
01:16:08.305 --> 01:16:10.285
No, I would like to see this, uh,

1729
01:16:10.985 --> 01:16:12.805
do we have a timetable when we have

1730
01:16:12.805 --> 01:16:14.565
to make a decision on the bids?

1731
01:16:16.985 --> 01:16:18.965
Um, I would defer to legal,

1732
01:16:18.965 --> 01:16:22.005
but I believe we can only hold these costs for 90 days.

1733
01:16:22.285 --> 01:16:24.085
I don't know if that's after award

1734
01:16:24.265 --> 01:16:26.805
or if it's since we're still bringing it back,

1735
01:16:26.865 --> 01:16:28.685
but we can't, you know, ask the vendors to just keep,

1736
01:16:28.685 --> 01:16:29.965
keep holding what they bid on

1737
01:16:30.425 --> 01:16:31.425
For A month. This is just the one thing

1738
01:16:31.425 --> 01:16:33.685
we have to hold CCO to the buyer.

1739
01:16:34.105 --> 01:16:35.925
Mm-hmm. And we,

1740
01:16:35.925 --> 01:16:40.445
We, sorry, can't, I cannot, Well, let me finish, Judy.

1741
01:16:41.865 --> 01:16:46.045
If we take in, withhold a decision

1742
01:16:46.615 --> 01:16:48.005
until the next board meeting,

1743
01:16:48.235 --> 01:16:52.205
perhaps we'll have more information from CCO as to

1744
01:16:52.205 --> 01:16:53.445
what their plans are, what sort

1745
01:16:53.445 --> 01:16:56.165
of guarantees they are gonna give us on future increases.

1746
01:16:57.905 --> 01:16:59.765
And if they won't do it,

1747
01:16:59.765 --> 01:17:04.525
because as it sayings right now, it, it's a no brainer, uh,

1748
01:17:04.905 --> 01:17:06.405
SE QL will guarantee their rates.

1749
01:17:07.855 --> 01:17:11.325
But, uh, my concern is that they're gonna come back

1750
01:17:12.135 --> 01:17:13.165
after this is over.

1751
01:17:13.465 --> 01:17:16.045
And when we can't get the silver credit to reduce our costs

1752
01:17:17.305 --> 01:17:18.725
and say, oh gee, we need the money.

1753
01:17:19.345 --> 01:17:22.485
So I'd like to see at least another wait

1754
01:17:22.485 --> 01:17:24.405
for one more meeting before we make a decision

1755
01:17:25.425 --> 01:17:27.685
and see if we can get some response from CCO

1756
01:17:28.105 --> 01:17:29.845
so we can make an informed decision

1757
01:17:30.795 --> 01:17:33.885
That all the credit ends soon ends around,

1758
01:17:33.945 --> 01:17:36.285
Uh, November as long as we, as long as we started

1759
01:17:36.385 --> 01:17:38.005
before the end of the year. Okay.

1760
01:17:38.705 --> 01:17:42.565
Mr. Chairman, if I can just relay the expenses associated

1761
01:17:42.595 --> 01:17:45.165
with, in this context of the RFP.

1762
01:17:45.785 --> 01:17:49.725
So at your current scro rate with no increase, your 20 year

1763
01:17:50.365 --> 01:17:52.325
baseline is 7.6 million.

1764
01:17:53.585 --> 01:17:56.485
The Helios lease option over the 20 year period

1765
01:17:57.065 --> 01:18:00.885
was a 59.4% increase at 12.2 million

1766
01:18:01.675 --> 01:18:05.425
over a 20 year period with the 30 year comparison.

1767
01:18:06.045 --> 01:18:09.945
Um, which would most likely result in a, um,

1768
01:18:11.005 --> 01:18:12.345
uh, bond situation.

1769
01:18:13.015 --> 01:18:16.145
Your baseline is 11.4 million with cco,

1770
01:18:17.175 --> 01:18:21.505
even if you received the full 40% federal direct pay credit,

1771
01:18:21.575 --> 01:18:24.745
that would still be 118% increase at

1772
01:18:24.745 --> 01:18:28.185
25.1 million over a 30 year period.

1773
01:18:28.565 --> 01:18:31.305
Yes. It's aig it is a significant difference.

1774
01:18:31.645 --> 01:18:34.305
And those are the project costs directly

1775
01:18:34.305 --> 01:18:35.505
associated with the bid.

1776
01:18:35.505 --> 01:18:39.305
That does not include, um, the cost to go back to the court

1777
01:18:39.325 --> 01:18:42.425
to seek validation of additional authority to issue bonds.

1778
01:18:43.085 --> 01:18:46.825
Um, the cost that would include to, for, for

1779
01:18:47.565 --> 01:18:51.505
the special, um, attorney in my office to prepare

1780
01:18:51.565 --> 01:18:55.625
for the credit application it's banking on whether there

1781
01:18:55.625 --> 01:18:58.265
would be no further changes in the federal regulations for,

1782
01:18:58.265 --> 01:19:01.945
regarding the, um, credit applicability.

1783
01:19:02.565 --> 01:19:06.705
Um, there are a lot of unfortunate unknown with,

1784
01:19:06.855 --> 01:19:08.105
with that option as well.

1785
01:19:08.685 --> 01:19:11.785
Um, and so just wanted to note that again, for the record.

1786
01:19:12.105 --> 01:19:13.625
I mean, none of us trust seco.

1787
01:19:13.765 --> 01:19:15.705
You know, there's gonna be a raise from seco,

1788
01:19:16.045 --> 01:19:18.665
but it's not gonna be near as high as

1789
01:19:18.665 --> 01:19:19.945
what we would start off with

1790
01:19:20.645 --> 01:19:22.825
and with No, with no, there is no,

1791
01:19:22.845 --> 01:19:26.145
if you look at the entire plane, even if SECO went up more,

1792
01:19:26.325 --> 01:19:27.905
you're still not gonna get the

1793
01:19:27.905 --> 01:19:29.145
million, a hundred million dollars.

1794
01:19:29.205 --> 01:19:30.425
So I agree with that. Well, what,

1795
01:19:31.215 --> 01:19:33.985
what happens if SECO comes back with their full amount?

1796
01:19:33.985 --> 01:19:35.265
Have you run the projection on that?

1797
01:19:37.485 --> 01:19:41.425
So CCO has provided in writing what the current

1798
01:19:41.645 --> 01:19:44.985
or the fiscal year 25, 26 rate is moving forward.

1799
01:19:45.485 --> 01:19:47.625
And that's what's been incorporated into your budget.

1800
01:19:48.125 --> 01:19:51.505
And that's the information that we have to go on it at, at

1801
01:19:51.505 --> 01:19:52.505
This point. So if they go to their full

1802
01:19:52.505 --> 01:19:53.705
pricing

1803
01:19:54.775 --> 01:19:58.025
that they originally gonna do, have you run those numbers?

1804
01:20:00.745 --> 01:20:02.625
I don't have those projections with me,

1805
01:20:02.685 --> 01:20:04.305
but they have in writing what their,

1806
01:20:04.335 --> 01:20:05.665
essentially their new client.

1807
01:20:05.665 --> 01:20:07.105
I understand what they're saying,

1808
01:20:07.125 --> 01:20:10.645
they will do my concerns whether they're going to do well,

1809
01:20:10.785 --> 01:20:14.125
my suggestion was me only put the decision off for 30 days

1810
01:20:14.125 --> 01:20:15.605
and maybe we get some more information,

1811
01:20:16.225 --> 01:20:17.725
or we just do away with it.

1812
01:20:19.445 --> 01:20:21.285
I, so let's, let's make a decision.

1813
01:20:21.445 --> 01:20:23.125
I I personally think Go ahead.

1814
01:20:23.265 --> 01:20:24.525
You tell me first I'll tell you.

1815
01:20:24.915 --> 01:20:28.845
Yeah, I, I, I understand where Steve's coming from.

1816
01:20:29.185 --> 01:20:34.125
Um, I still think we, it'd be nice

1817
01:20:34.125 --> 01:20:35.685
to drag this out a little bit longer,

1818
01:20:35.745 --> 01:20:36.925
but I think we probably should.

1819
01:20:37.765 --> 01:20:40.045
I mean, we would have the, the issue

1820
01:20:40.265 --> 01:20:44.245
or the possibility of rejecting and reissuing the RFP,

1821
01:20:44.265 --> 01:20:48.205
but I think at this point that we probably reject all this.

1822
01:20:49.725 --> 01:20:51.925
I, I agree. Um,

1823
01:20:53.105 --> 01:20:54.205
I'd like to see them one month.

1824
01:20:54.385 --> 01:20:56.045
Uh, wait,

1825
01:20:56.885 --> 01:20:58.005
I, I think that we just need

1826
01:20:58.005 --> 01:21:00.245
to end the pain and reject this.

1827
01:21:01.205 --> 01:21:03.565
Phaco is gonna do, FACO can tell us anything they want.

1828
01:21:03.665 --> 01:21:05.965
We could tell this crowd anything we want, you know,

1829
01:21:05.965 --> 01:21:08.125
we said 5% next year it could be 25.

1830
01:21:08.145 --> 01:21:11.485
We don't know because we're, we're doing it in good faith,

1831
01:21:11.585 --> 01:21:13.125
but that doesn't mean anything.

1832
01:21:13.745 --> 01:21:17.325
Um, I, I think we just need to, based on the numbers

1833
01:21:17.325 --> 01:21:20.165
that we have, no speculation, this is

1834
01:21:20.165 --> 01:21:22.245
what we got. I think we need to

1835
01:21:22.245 --> 01:21:23.245
Reject the bids.

1836
01:21:24.265 --> 01:21:27.245
Now. I, I go with rejecting, um, of the bids.

1837
01:21:27.265 --> 01:21:29.885
And I, I think, uh, the whole situation

1838
01:21:29.885 --> 01:21:31.445
with SECO in the future, you know,

1839
01:21:31.445 --> 01:21:33.205
when you start doing projections out

1840
01:21:34.435 --> 01:21:38.925
5, 10, 15, 20 years about utility bills, I mean, it is,

1841
01:21:39.065 --> 01:21:40.165
you gotta do it.

1842
01:21:40.275 --> 01:21:41.285
It's, it is a guess,

1843
01:21:41.825 --> 01:21:44.805
but it's a, you know, it's a big crapshoot.

1844
01:21:45.185 --> 01:21:48.605
And I'm, I'm for like, let's just cool off on this thing.

1845
01:21:48.605 --> 01:21:50.445
Maybe in six months or a year from now,

1846
01:21:50.745 --> 01:21:52.125
we take another look at it.

1847
01:21:52.385 --> 01:21:54.445
The environment might have changed. Maybe it won't.

1848
01:21:54.765 --> 01:21:57.725
I, I don't know. But right now, I think we're,

1849
01:21:57.815 --> 01:21:58.965
we're just kind of spinning.

1850
01:21:59.215 --> 01:22:00.845
Let's get a vote. Now. I get a motion.

1851
01:22:01.325 --> 01:22:04.725
I make a motion that we reject all bids, sadly.

1852
01:22:06.465 --> 01:22:07.845
Can I just make No, um,

1853
01:22:08.385 --> 01:22:11.725
and just verification on if you want to rebid or not.

1854
01:22:11.915 --> 01:22:14.845
Okay. Just, just with the motion. All bids at this time.

1855
01:22:15.905 --> 01:22:17.845
We will look at solar again in the future,

1856
01:22:18.625 --> 01:22:21.125
but it's in a very different way.

1857
01:22:21.325 --> 01:22:23.245
I mean, I can't even imagine how much we've learned,

1858
01:22:23.625 --> 01:22:25.805
but also technology changes hourly.

1859
01:22:26.205 --> 01:22:28.245
Absolutely. So I think that motion is

1860
01:22:28.245 --> 01:22:30.565
to reject all visits this time, not rebid

1861
01:22:30.565 --> 01:22:31.925
until we are further down the road

1862
01:22:31.925 --> 01:22:35.565
and have more concrete information. Thank you. Yeah. I get

1863
01:22:35.565 --> 01:22:36.565
A second.

1864
01:22:37.305 --> 01:22:41.085
Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. One.

1865
01:22:41.305 --> 01:22:44.885
See one Opposed, uh, measure has passed.

1866
01:22:45.415 --> 01:22:47.605
Thank you. Thank you all.

1867
01:22:47.665 --> 01:22:48.765
And again, thank you staff

1868
01:22:49.185 --> 01:22:50.925
and thank, thank your staff. This,

1869
01:22:51.145 --> 01:22:52.205
It was a learning experience.

1870
01:22:52.275 --> 01:22:55.245
Yeah. It's been quite lately. Oh

1871
01:22:55.345 --> 01:22:56.345
Boy. And it, it's

1872
01:22:56.345 --> 01:22:57.805
sad to not be able to do it,

1873
01:22:57.805 --> 01:22:59.365
but right now it's just too costly.

1874
01:22:59.635 --> 01:23:00.725
Okay. D restriction.

1875
01:23:05.315 --> 01:23:07.605
Good morning Board. Shannon Boyd. Community standards.

1876
01:23:08.105 --> 01:23:09.685
Um, the District seven board

1877
01:23:09.685 --> 01:23:13.045
of supervisors has developed general provisions in Appendix

1878
01:23:13.165 --> 01:23:16.565
B and defined maintenance in your adopted external deed

1879
01:23:16.565 --> 01:23:18.085
restriction definitions

1880
01:23:18.105 --> 01:23:19.485
and interpretations for all

1881
01:23:19.485 --> 01:23:20.925
properties within District seven.

1882
01:23:21.615 --> 01:23:22.885
Staff would like to amend

1883
01:23:22.885 --> 01:23:25.645
and restate the rules to bring about deep compliance

1884
01:23:26.185 --> 01:23:30.285
and standard, uh, in definitions to create a process

1885
01:23:30.435 --> 01:23:33.845
that would allow for any complaint received for a violation

1886
01:23:34.265 --> 01:23:36.845
of any part of the general provisions.

1887
01:23:37.065 --> 01:23:39.845
And defined maintenance standards will result in a

1888
01:23:39.845 --> 01:23:43.165
comprehensive review of the property's compliance.

1889
01:23:43.235 --> 01:23:45.325
With the entirety of these provisions,

1890
01:23:46.165 --> 01:23:48.885
district staff will inspect all applicable maintenance

1891
01:23:49.085 --> 01:23:51.485
standards during their site visit, regardless

1892
01:23:51.585 --> 01:23:54.325
of the specific nature of the original complaint.

1893
01:23:55.165 --> 01:23:57.445
District staff would also like to include a new addition

1894
01:23:57.445 --> 01:24:00.485
to appendix B in the external deed restrictions,

1895
01:24:00.605 --> 01:24:04.085
definitions, and interpretations to include the cleaning up

1896
01:24:04.105 --> 01:24:06.285
of miscellaneous landscaping debris

1897
01:24:06.705 --> 01:24:10.285
and the spraying of Rob Vine growth into these documents.

1898
01:24:10.585 --> 01:24:12.565
And the matrix and your fine schedule

1899
01:24:13.195 --> 01:24:14.885
staff's recommendation would be

1900
01:24:14.915 --> 01:24:16.405
that the board discuss the topic

1901
01:24:16.705 --> 01:24:19.245
and approve for the advertisement to amend

1902
01:24:19.365 --> 01:24:22.245
and restate their rules to bring about deed compliance

1903
01:24:22.625 --> 01:24:25.645
for a November 12th, 2025 board meeting.

1904
01:24:26.025 --> 01:24:27.365
And, uh, excuse me, public hearing.

1905
01:24:27.625 --> 01:24:29.685
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

1906
01:24:30.115 --> 01:24:32.725
Yeah, it sounds like just again, a little more detail.

1907
01:24:32.725 --> 01:24:35.165
And it says, need and clean rule enforcement.

1908
01:24:36.995 --> 01:24:40.325
When, let's say we okay this and we, uh, what,

1909
01:24:41.225 --> 01:24:42.325
and you do a, uh,

1910
01:24:42.345 --> 01:24:45.285
you get the complaint obviously, and they go out.

1911
01:24:45.475 --> 01:24:48.285
What determines what, where does it stop?

1912
01:24:48.355 --> 01:24:51.245
Like, does the guy have a, a piece of toilet paper on his,

1913
01:24:51.245 --> 01:24:55.125
on his lawn and, and we get the, uh, the compliance says,

1914
01:24:55.195 --> 01:24:58.005
okay, did a violation, where's the violation?

1915
01:24:58.155 --> 01:24:59.325
Stop and go.

1916
01:24:59.755 --> 01:25:00.805
When it comes to this,

1917
01:25:00.985 --> 01:25:02.765
it seems like it's getting a little too technical.

1918
01:25:03.145 --> 01:25:04.605
It would be anything that,

1919
01:25:04.635 --> 01:25:06.245
that would be in your maintenance.

1920
01:25:06.425 --> 01:25:08.645
So it would be overgrown grass and weeds.

1921
01:25:08.645 --> 01:25:10.565
So basically what this is trying to alleviate

1922
01:25:11.145 --> 01:25:13.605
is if someone calls in a complaint right now,

1923
01:25:13.785 --> 01:25:15.165
and it's for overgrown grass

1924
01:25:15.185 --> 01:25:17.365
and weeds, we go out there, we're addressing that.

1925
01:25:17.435 --> 01:25:19.205
Well, it might have had mold on the home

1926
01:25:19.425 --> 01:25:21.805
or it might have had overgrown bushes,

1927
01:25:22.065 --> 01:25:23.245
but that wasn't called in.

1928
01:25:23.245 --> 01:25:24.365
So we're not addressing that.

1929
01:25:24.505 --> 01:25:26.605
So anything under your maintenance, such

1930
01:25:26.605 --> 01:25:27.685
as your overgrown grass

1931
01:25:27.705 --> 01:25:31.005
and weeds, your overgrown hedges, the mold on the home

1932
01:25:31.005 --> 01:25:35.925
and home site, um, those instances are

1933
01:25:35.925 --> 01:25:37.605
what we would, and we also would like

1934
01:25:37.605 --> 01:25:39.925
to include the cleaning up of miscellaneous

1935
01:25:40.525 --> 01:25:42.965
landscaping debris and also rogue vine growth.

1936
01:25:43.265 --> 01:25:46.405
So what you're saying is to clarify, right now we have,

1937
01:25:46.405 --> 01:25:48.085
with somebody, I call up, I'm a resident

1938
01:25:48.085 --> 01:25:49.365
and I got a complaint.

1939
01:25:49.365 --> 01:25:52.445
There's a violation next door, uh, there, uh,

1940
01:25:52.455 --> 01:25:53.765
grass, too many weeds.

1941
01:25:54.505 --> 01:25:56.445
You go out there, the villages go out there,

1942
01:25:56.585 --> 01:25:57.925
uh, and check it out.

1943
01:25:57.985 --> 01:26:00.885
And they say, okay, they can't look at the house

1944
01:26:00.915 --> 01:26:02.925
because it's got mild on it

1945
01:26:03.045 --> 01:26:04.805
because it wasn't part of the complaint.

1946
01:26:04.805 --> 01:26:06.845
Correct. So at this point, what we're doing is

1947
01:26:07.075 --> 01:26:09.005
that will be coming into the part,

1948
01:26:09.005 --> 01:26:11.325
it'll be just the overall neatness of the whole house,

1949
01:26:11.435 --> 01:26:12.435
Correct? Correct.

1950
01:26:12.435 --> 01:26:14.565
We're trying to cover it all in one,

1951
01:26:14.625 --> 01:26:17.605
so we don't get another call three weeks later from another

1952
01:26:17.845 --> 01:26:19.325
resident that's now complaining at the mold.

1953
01:26:19.325 --> 01:26:20.765
We would like to address anything

1954
01:26:21.035 --> 01:26:23.685
that we can maintain all in one,

1955
01:26:24.505 --> 01:26:25.505
One time. Gotcha.

1956
01:26:25.505 --> 01:26:25.945

1957
01:26:26.425 --> 01:26:29.325
Uh, I think, I think this probably should have been

1958
01:26:29.325 --> 01:26:31.325
written in Years ago.

1959
01:26:31.685 --> 01:26:34.805
I mean, this, this makes the most common sense of anything

1960
01:26:35.195 --> 01:26:38.445
that, I mean, you guys are the ones

1961
01:26:38.445 --> 01:26:40.925
that affirm the complaint, you know,

1962
01:26:41.275 --> 01:26:43.525
whether it's frivolous or it has merit.

1963
01:26:44.105 --> 01:26:45.805
And as long as we're gonna go

1964
01:26:46.105 --> 01:26:50.205
and do that, do a complete sweep of the property and,

1965
01:26:50.265 --> 01:26:52.285
and let's do it.

1966
01:26:52.485 --> 01:26:54.725
I mean, it makes sense. Let's get it, let's get it.

1967
01:26:54.785 --> 01:26:56.605
Uh, brought in, brought in line.

1968
01:26:56.685 --> 01:26:58.925
I think that something should have been done,

1969
01:26:58.995 --> 01:27:00.165
like I said, years ago.

1970
01:27:00.705 --> 01:27:02.765
It makes very good sense. It truly does.

1971
01:27:03.345 --> 01:27:05.405
How is this affected by uniform enforcement?

1972
01:27:06.105 --> 01:27:07.645
In other words, your person goes out

1973
01:27:07.705 --> 01:27:10.765
and notes all the issues on the one property,

1974
01:27:10.785 --> 01:27:12.845
but he sees an issue at the property next door.

1975
01:27:14.125 --> 01:27:16.075
Again, it's still a complaint driven process,

1976
01:27:16.815 --> 01:27:18.635
so we would have to receive a complaint,

1977
01:27:18.945 --> 01:27:20.195
Uniform enforcement issue.

1978
01:27:20.975 --> 01:27:23.195
No. So it's only specific

1979
01:27:23.215 --> 01:27:24.835
to the address of the complaint, correct.

1980
01:27:24.835 --> 01:27:26.235
Correct. Mm-hmm. Yes.

1981
01:27:26.375 --> 01:27:30.395
But I, I certainly agree with the all encompassing approach.

1982
01:27:30.655 --> 01:27:33.795
I'm amazed as well. It hasn't been in place years ago,

1983
01:27:33.925 --> 01:27:35.555
maybe a couple decades ago.

1984
01:27:36.135 --> 01:27:38.235
But, uh, yeah. Yeah.

1985
01:27:39.215 --> 01:27:42.795
And ultimately we still have the appeal process, right?

1986
01:27:42.915 --> 01:27:44.995
I mean, you go out and you see all this stuff

1987
01:27:45.015 --> 01:27:46.515
and you say they have to do all these things,

1988
01:27:46.535 --> 01:27:48.675
and if they don't comply with a certain timeframe,

1989
01:27:48.845 --> 01:27:51.315
it'll eventually come back to us here as a board to say,

1990
01:27:51.335 --> 01:27:53.635
you want to levy fines or whatever.

1991
01:27:53.665 --> 01:27:55.475
Correct. If it's not taken care of.

1992
01:27:56.395 --> 01:27:58.595
I, I think that makes great sense. Okay.

1993
01:27:59.615 --> 01:28:01.315
Say again? I'm, I'm good.

1994
01:28:01.585 --> 01:28:05.355
Like you said, why didn't it do that all? No. No. Okay.

1995
01:28:05.355 --> 01:28:08.875
Do we get a motion? Motion to approve, to amend

1996
01:28:08.875 --> 01:28:09.875
and restate the rules?

1997
01:28:10.455 --> 01:28:13.755
We have to have a public hearing on November 12th. Second.

1998
01:28:13.755 --> 01:28:18.035
Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none. Motion.

1999
01:28:18.245 --> 01:28:20.395
Thank you. Board. Thank you.

2000
01:28:21.745 --> 01:28:24.515
Okay, now we got all business. Yay. Oh boy.

2001
01:28:25.455 --> 01:28:29.075
Yes. So we will, um, remove item one, which is the, um,

2002
01:28:29.495 --> 01:28:31.475
the revised RFP for solar lighting.

2003
01:28:31.895 --> 01:28:35.795
Um, and just include the remainder on there about the

2004
01:28:36.035 --> 01:28:38.875
communication to, to CCO and the, the lumens

2005
01:28:39.135 --> 01:28:42.755
and, um, that additional communication that's forthcoming.

2006
01:28:42.855 --> 01:28:44.035
So we'll adjust that item.

2007
01:28:44.895 --> 01:28:48.115
Um, the non-district seven items, um, pertain

2008
01:28:48.115 --> 01:28:49.275
to the postal facility.

2009
01:28:49.835 --> 01:28:52.075
I did have the opportunity to have a conversation

2010
01:28:52.075 --> 01:28:53.275
with the new postmaster.

2011
01:28:53.815 --> 01:28:56.515
Um, I, I will preface this by saying

2012
01:28:56.515 --> 01:28:58.835
that I don't think the circumstances will change.

2013
01:28:58.865 --> 01:29:03.165
However, it kind of shed additional light on their process

2014
01:29:03.305 --> 01:29:04.845
and procedures that are in place.

2015
01:29:05.505 --> 01:29:08.125
Um, and their willingness to have that communication

2016
01:29:08.125 --> 01:29:12.045
because the, the prior staff member, we had a lack

2017
01:29:12.045 --> 01:29:13.245
of communication on it,

2018
01:29:13.245 --> 01:29:15.485
which is why it was escalated to the congressman's office.

2019
01:29:16.065 --> 01:29:19.605
Um, she is a huge proponent of customer service.

2020
01:29:19.985 --> 01:29:21.765
Um, she alluded to that

2021
01:29:21.865 --> 01:29:25.165
and making sure that everyone has the same expectations set.

2022
01:29:25.705 --> 01:29:26.805
Um, the items

2023
01:29:26.835 --> 01:29:29.405
that were discussed were the half mile radius question

2024
01:29:29.405 --> 01:29:30.645
within their contract.

2025
01:29:31.105 --> 01:29:34.925
Um, she did state that that is a contractual regulation

2026
01:29:34.925 --> 01:29:36.845
that they should be adhering to.

2027
01:29:37.585 --> 01:29:39.605
Um, it, it sounds

2028
01:29:40.995 --> 01:29:42.925
what has been communicated is the carrier

2029
01:29:43.185 --> 01:29:46.565
for the postal facility in question was strictly adhering

2030
01:29:46.565 --> 01:29:48.765
to the contract as they were expected to.

2031
01:29:49.135 --> 01:29:50.525
There are others that are not.

2032
01:29:51.145 --> 01:29:54.525
Um, so I think the double-edged sword is that there will,

2033
01:29:54.525 --> 01:29:58.085
now, the expectation is that all carriers are adhering to

2034
01:29:58.085 --> 01:29:59.325
that half mile radius.

2035
01:30:00.105 --> 01:30:03.485
Um, So this

2036
01:30:03.485 --> 01:30:04.485
Went wrong. So you

2037
01:30:04.485 --> 01:30:05.885
complained. You complained,

2038
01:30:05.985 --> 01:30:10.645
and obviously now who wrote, I know anybody

2039
01:30:10.665 --> 01:30:14.005
and I apologize, but who changed the contract

2040
01:30:14.865 --> 01:30:17.485
to have this half out without, without coming to us?

2041
01:30:17.505 --> 01:30:20.445
So that's a private contract with their carriers.

2042
01:30:21.115 --> 01:30:23.965
It's, it's not, it's it's through the US Postal Service

2043
01:30:24.225 --> 01:30:25.605
and their contract carriers.

2044
01:30:25.605 --> 01:30:27.045
That's not something that the

2045
01:30:27.045 --> 01:30:28.445
nationwide district is a party to.

2046
01:30:28.445 --> 01:30:30.165
Correct? It's the nationwide policy.

2047
01:30:30.275 --> 01:30:33.125
It's not, we're not a party to that.

2048
01:30:33.265 --> 01:30:36.805
And I say we meaning the world, the district,

2049
01:30:36.825 --> 01:30:37.925
the county, the cities.

2050
01:30:38.155 --> 01:30:40.685
It's, it's the postal service and their contract carriers.

2051
01:30:40.835 --> 01:30:44.005
This, if they, if they, well, you just said if they do it

2052
01:30:44.105 --> 01:30:46.605
and, and be uniformed on this new structure,

2053
01:30:46.915 --> 01:30:47.925
this is gonna be a problem.

2054
01:30:48.715 --> 01:30:51.365
Well, I don't know that it's a new structure as much

2055
01:30:51.365 --> 01:30:54.765
as it is consistency in its application. Yeah.

2056
01:30:54.765 --> 01:30:56.205
Well, it's gonna be a problem. Um,

2057
01:30:56.435 --> 01:31:00.165
Yeah, it's, and we did also discuss, um, that the fact

2058
01:31:00.165 --> 01:31:03.965
that the contract is what they consider a private contract

2059
01:31:04.035 --> 01:31:05.285
with that said individual.

2060
01:31:05.905 --> 01:31:08.685
Um, but they did indicate that the page that has been

2061
01:31:09.005 --> 01:31:12.405
provided is the only page that is, um,

2062
01:31:12.545 --> 01:31:14.445
covers the half mile radius question.

2063
01:31:14.665 --> 01:31:17.085
It is the pertinent information that the,

2064
01:31:17.145 --> 01:31:20.485
the carrier voluntary, voluntarily gave to the resident.

2065
01:31:21.225 --> 01:31:26.045
Um, also the discussion about the, um, divvying up

2066
01:31:26.045 --> 01:31:27.165
of the parcel boxes.

2067
01:31:27.345 --> 01:31:29.645
She said that's also contractually driven.

2068
01:31:30.145 --> 01:31:31.605
Um, because there are routes

2069
01:31:31.605 --> 01:31:34.405
that have various postal carriers where,

2070
01:31:34.585 --> 01:31:36.125
so if the postal carrier changes,

2071
01:31:36.275 --> 01:31:40.285
they always know contractually which boxes are their boxes.

2072
01:31:41.065 --> 01:31:43.965
Um, it, it's defined, um, she said they're very

2073
01:31:44.635 --> 01:31:46.485
regulated in the way that they do business.

2074
01:31:46.865 --> 01:31:50.045
And that's the structure that has been established.

2075
01:31:50.745 --> 01:31:53.525
Um, she did say, you know, the discussion

2076
01:31:53.555 --> 01:31:55.765
regarding the communication with the carriers.

2077
01:31:56.465 --> 01:31:59.485
Um, she indicated it, it's not that the carriers,

2078
01:32:00.465 --> 01:32:03.155
that there's no expectation that they will not communicate

2079
01:32:03.155 --> 01:32:04.995
with the residents at the postal facilities.

2080
01:32:05.095 --> 01:32:09.395
The challenge has been that if the door is left unlocked,

2081
01:32:09.975 --> 01:32:12.995
um, there are oftentimes the residents not just here

2082
01:32:13.355 --> 01:32:17.995
anywhere, will go in and have the conversation with them.

2083
01:32:18.135 --> 01:32:21.515
And they really don't have the opportunity to manage that

2084
01:32:22.015 --> 01:32:23.475
and keep individuals out.

2085
01:32:24.255 --> 01:32:26.595
Um, so they did institute, um,

2086
01:32:26.595 --> 01:32:30.475
where they put a sign out front where to please contact the,

2087
01:32:30.815 --> 01:32:33.475
you know, whichever the closest postal, uh, facility is

2088
01:32:33.475 --> 01:32:37.275
for additional questions if they're not available to field

2089
01:32:37.835 --> 01:32:39.155
everyone's questions while they're there.

2090
01:32:40.325 --> 01:32:43.065
The problem is, Brittany, I that I understand all that

2091
01:32:43.065 --> 01:32:45.105
with the do it, but the problem is you have somebody

2092
01:32:45.105 --> 01:32:48.865
that's gonna go, and a lot of people, uh, at our age, my age

2093
01:32:49.325 --> 01:32:53.945
and and older, um, obviously now have

2094
01:32:53.945 --> 01:32:55.985
to go to the post office, find out that

2095
01:32:55.985 --> 01:32:58.105
that package now it's gotta go through.

2096
01:32:58.165 --> 01:33:00.985
It went to the main post office, which, you know,

2097
01:33:01.165 --> 01:33:04.185
and now it, it's gonna be putting a lot of people out.

2098
01:33:04.185 --> 01:33:06.225
It's gonna be, it's gonna stress out a lot of people.

2099
01:33:06.925 --> 01:33:09.065
And, and especially if they do this

2100
01:33:09.325 --> 01:33:11.185
for everybody, we're gonna have a problem.

2101
01:33:11.625 --> 01:33:14.945
I, I think so too. And you know, it not everybody drives.

2102
01:33:15.615 --> 01:33:17.345
Yeah. Yeah. And I think,

2103
01:33:18.625 --> 01:33:20.465
I think this really needs to be addressed.

2104
01:33:20.895 --> 01:33:22.985
Yeah. I I, because it's almost American

2105
01:33:22.985 --> 01:33:25.745
with disabilities, it's, you know, you're putting them

2106
01:33:26.285 --> 01:33:30.545
and making them jump through hoops that's unreasonable for,

2107
01:33:31.205 --> 01:33:33.465
you know, many of us could probably do it.

2108
01:33:33.575 --> 01:33:34.665
Yeah. But by

2109
01:33:34.665 --> 01:33:37.145
and large, there's gonna be a, a, you know,

2110
01:33:37.145 --> 01:33:41.345
some finite number of people that really can't live up to,

2111
01:33:41.845 --> 01:33:43.185
And some people don't even have cars.

2112
01:33:43.415 --> 01:33:44.745
They have to go through a post office.

2113
01:33:44.885 --> 01:33:45.945
But you can't use your dog car,

2114
01:33:46.045 --> 01:33:47.265
Put a mailbox in front of my house.

2115
01:33:47.705 --> 01:33:48.705
I, I don't understand it.

2116
01:33:48.945 --> 01:33:50.465
I, I can honest with you, I don't know.

2117
01:33:50.615 --> 01:33:52.545
Obviously I know the politician, Webster

2118
01:33:52.545 --> 01:33:54.185
or whatever his name is, honestly, this,

2119
01:33:54.295 --> 01:33:55.625
this is gonna become a problem.

2120
01:33:56.885 --> 01:33:59.345
That's, that's Why, why we need to take it up

2121
01:33:59.345 --> 01:34:01.105
with the local senators Yeah.

2122
01:34:01.505 --> 01:34:03.705
Congress and whatever, because it's like their problem.

2123
01:34:04.255 --> 01:34:06.185
It's not a problem we can fix. Yeah.

2124
01:34:06.185 --> 01:34:08.265
But it becomes all problem. 'cause the residents

2125
01:34:08.265 --> 01:34:09.625
that we represent, I get that.

2126
01:34:10.205 --> 01:34:11.465
But we need to be sending them

2127
01:34:11.485 --> 01:34:12.785
to the people that can fix it.

2128
01:34:12.965 --> 01:34:15.305
We did what we, we did, we did. Look what happened.

2129
01:34:15.855 --> 01:34:20.425
Yeah. They're denying the FOIA on

2130
01:34:22.235 --> 01:34:26.545
their contract with the individual person delivering,

2131
01:34:27.485 --> 01:34:32.345
not the FOIA should be applicable to the one going

2132
01:34:32.485 --> 01:34:35.025
to the main contractor.

2133
01:34:35.605 --> 01:34:37.785
Not to the individual who's been told

2134
01:34:37.785 --> 01:34:39.265
to sign this or you don't get the job.

2135
01:34:40.685 --> 01:34:42.205
I it's two different contracts. Correct.

2136
01:34:42.305 --> 01:34:44.805
And unfortunately, I don't know their exemption structure.

2137
01:34:44.955 --> 01:34:46.845
Even within Florida State statutes,

2138
01:34:46.845 --> 01:34:48.005
there are certain public records

2139
01:34:48.075 --> 01:34:49.605
that are exempt from disclosure.

2140
01:34:49.875 --> 01:34:52.765
It's a public record, but exempt from providing

2141
01:34:52.765 --> 01:34:53.885
it upon request.

2142
01:34:54.705 --> 01:34:59.645
Um, I know this is not necessarily the answer the board

2143
01:34:59.705 --> 01:35:01.285
is, is, was looking for.

2144
01:35:01.945 --> 01:35:05.405
Um, I would encourage that if residents have issues

2145
01:35:05.435 --> 01:35:09.165
that they communicate with their congressional, um,

2146
01:35:09.225 --> 01:35:13.805
representatives, we can revise the communication, uh,

2147
01:35:13.835 --> 01:35:16.205
from the board to state that you're supportive

2148
01:35:16.205 --> 01:35:17.605
of a contract change.

2149
01:35:18.185 --> 01:35:22.165
But I, I don't know that there's anything further correct.

2150
01:35:22.275 --> 01:35:24.565
That can, no further action can be taken

2151
01:35:25.225 --> 01:35:28.165
by this board other than expressing your support

2152
01:35:28.425 --> 01:35:31.685
for a change on that contract side.

2153
01:35:32.105 --> 01:35:34.885
So we have, and when this, when this starts getting,

2154
01:35:35.605 --> 01:35:37.885
'cause obviously what I foresee is

2155
01:35:37.885 --> 01:35:39.285
that there's gonna be much more complaints

2156
01:35:39.965 --> 01:35:41.485
'cause the person that used to get his box

2157
01:35:41.745 --> 01:35:45.685
or his, uh, his postal, uh, uh, box or paper

2158
01:35:45.705 --> 01:35:47.245
or whatever it may be delivered now

2159
01:35:47.245 --> 01:35:48.365
they gotta go to the post office.

2160
01:35:48.365 --> 01:35:49.645
Correct. And it is no different.

2161
01:35:49.685 --> 01:35:50.725
I live in Citrus County

2162
01:35:50.985 --> 01:35:55.805
and I have, if the box is too big to fit in a mailbox

2163
01:35:56.105 --> 01:35:57.605
or a parcel box, you have to go

2164
01:35:57.605 --> 01:35:58.965
to the post office to pick it up.

2165
01:35:59.385 --> 01:36:00.805
If it's through USPS.

2166
01:36:00.835 --> 01:36:02.725
Yeah. But sometimes it has nothing to do with the size.

2167
01:36:02.725 --> 01:36:04.965
Sometimes they just, just, am I correct

2168
01:36:05.785 --> 01:36:07.245
The box is not available to that.

2169
01:36:07.395 --> 01:36:09.605
Yeah. The box is not available. I mean, so,

2170
01:36:10.105 --> 01:36:13.525
You know, I, on those boxes, I mean,

2171
01:36:13.805 --> 01:36:15.685
I know this is all federal stuff again,

2172
01:36:16.225 --> 01:36:19.925
but to me, a simple solution would be to take of most

2173
01:36:19.925 --> 01:36:21.365
of those boxes, a lot of 'em,

2174
01:36:21.365 --> 01:36:23.165
and divide 'em in half and make 'em two.

2175
01:36:23.535 --> 01:36:25.725
Right Now you can fit a suitcase in those boxes

2176
01:36:26.225 --> 01:36:29.085
and people are, if you get a package that's one inch thick

2177
01:36:29.345 --> 01:36:32.165
and six inches wide, they gotta throw it in one

2178
01:36:32.165 --> 01:36:33.965
of the big outside boxes.

2179
01:36:34.145 --> 01:36:35.485
It won't fit in your little mail.

2180
01:36:36.025 --> 01:36:37.965
You know what my problem is darl, is

2181
01:36:37.965 --> 01:36:39.485
that I live in Hemingway.

2182
01:36:39.505 --> 01:36:42.205
I'm there 17 years, never had a problem picking up mine.

2183
01:36:42.265 --> 01:36:46.365
My wife gets a, uh, UPS, um, whatever, delivery when a,

2184
01:36:46.505 --> 01:36:48.925
you know, old stuff, you know, through tv.

2185
01:36:49.585 --> 01:36:51.885
And I never had a problem. Never had a problem.

2186
01:36:52.055 --> 01:36:54.085
Every, every Thursday I get something.

2187
01:36:54.425 --> 01:36:56.685
How come it was only at those certain individual.

2188
01:36:56.905 --> 01:36:59.765
And you told me why individual locations,

2189
01:37:00.075 --> 01:37:01.365
Hemingway never had a problem.

2190
01:37:02.385 --> 01:37:04.405
And it could be that your proximity,

2191
01:37:04.675 --> 01:37:08.325
your home is a different proximity than other homes. Yeah.

2192
01:37:08.345 --> 01:37:10.685
But I I, I feel bad for the residents. Is

2193
01:37:10.685 --> 01:37:13.405
There, is there any possibility of, uh, erecting

2194
01:37:14.125 --> 01:37:18.725
a freestanding, an additional 10 or 15 boxes?

2195
01:37:19.025 --> 01:37:22.925
Or is that, is that strictly the postal service or, I mean,

2196
01:37:23.125 --> 01:37:24.125
Whatever. Correct. That would be postal

2197
01:37:24.125 --> 01:37:24.565
service.

2198
01:37:24.745 --> 01:37:28.085
And it sounds like the way that the contracts are set up is

2199
01:37:28.085 --> 01:37:29.765
that they have,

2200
01:37:31.435 --> 01:37:34.365
they're managing the structure that they have in place.

2201
01:37:34.585 --> 01:37:36.525
And I don't know that, uh, adding

2202
01:37:36.705 --> 01:37:38.765
to it would alleviate Okay. Then

2203
01:37:38.765 --> 01:37:40.325
They have to go outside and then they wouldn't do that.

2204
01:37:40.485 --> 01:37:42.805
'cause they, yeah. Okay.

2205
01:37:44.235 --> 01:37:46.325
Well, what what's interesting is, uh,

2206
01:37:46.785 --> 01:37:48.285
we in West Hemingway can have

2207
01:37:48.285 --> 01:37:49.285
Our mail delivered.

2208
01:37:49.425 --> 01:37:53.285
You can't, oh, Leno, Arizona.

2209
01:37:53.315 --> 01:37:54.525
Yeah. It, it's that much of a,

2210
01:37:54.835 --> 01:37:55.835
Yeah. I mean,

2211
01:37:55.835 --> 01:37:57.365
a 10th of 10th

2212
01:37:57.365 --> 01:37:59.765
of a mile makes a difference, but mm-hmm.

2213
01:38:00.145 --> 01:38:03.365
Yes. Le Arizona 1634 Marigold Lane.

2214
01:38:03.715 --> 01:38:07.685
Obviously this is not the news that I expected today.

2215
01:38:08.505 --> 01:38:09.805
You know, and, and I understand,

2216
01:38:09.945 --> 01:38:11.445
and I'd like to thank the board

2217
01:38:11.745 --> 01:38:13.805
and Brittany for all the work.

2218
01:38:14.345 --> 01:38:15.885
You know, we still have some issues

2219
01:38:15.885 --> 01:38:17.045
because, you know,

2220
01:38:17.505 --> 01:38:20.205
the mail carrier makes us talk through the mailbox.

2221
01:38:20.665 --> 01:38:25.045
And when you have the lower mailboxes, you know, a lot

2222
01:38:25.045 --> 01:38:27.005
of people can't get down that low anymore.

2223
01:38:27.425 --> 01:38:29.285
So there's that. And then, you know,

2224
01:38:29.385 --> 01:38:31.285
it would be nice if there were more boxes.

2225
01:38:31.825 --> 01:38:35.125
But if I understand correctly, you're saying that

2226
01:38:35.985 --> 01:38:38.445
the villages can't do anything to the boxes.

2227
01:38:38.665 --> 01:38:40.445
It would have to be the post office.

2228
01:38:40.765 --> 01:38:43.765
I thought that we own the postal station.

2229
01:38:45.315 --> 01:38:48.285
Unfortunately, it's not a con the structure. Yes.

2230
01:38:48.545 --> 01:38:51.085
But the, the mail service

2231
01:38:51.745 --> 01:38:54.005
to the boxes is a separate function.

2232
01:38:54.105 --> 01:38:55.765
And it does get a little complex,

2233
01:38:55.905 --> 01:38:59.085
but it falls under federal guidelines.

2234
01:38:59.345 --> 01:39:01.005
And it, that's why

2235
01:39:03.025 --> 01:39:05.725
At The local level, I mean, speaking to the postmaster,

2236
01:39:05.725 --> 01:39:08.445
they are enforcing the contract that they are expected

2237
01:39:08.465 --> 01:39:12.805
to enforce and ensure that there's, um, continuity

2238
01:39:13.065 --> 01:39:15.485
and fairness in the way that it is applied.

2239
01:39:16.225 --> 01:39:19.805
Um, that's why I say it, it really comes down to a,

2240
01:39:20.225 --> 01:39:22.205
it would have to result in a contract change.

2241
01:39:22.315 --> 01:39:24.965
Yeah. And that's, I mean, you can, you can communicate

2242
01:39:24.965 --> 01:39:26.925
that you're in support of a contract change,

2243
01:39:27.185 --> 01:39:31.005
but the circumstances that are in effect now, that's

2244
01:39:31.005 --> 01:39:32.605
what they're expected to enforce.

2245
01:39:33.265 --> 01:39:38.045
So, Mr. KO's, um, suggestion to like, change the sizes

2246
01:39:38.045 --> 01:39:39.645
of the boxes is not something

2247
01:39:39.875 --> 01:39:43.205
that is in the village's purview, like through P Wax or

2248
01:39:43.625 --> 01:39:44.625
That's several. You touch the

2249
01:39:44.625 --> 01:39:45.525
box, you go to jail.

2250
01:39:47.465 --> 01:39:50.565
But, you know, um, if you go down south of 44,

2251
01:39:51.015 --> 01:39:53.765
their mailboxes are longer

2252
01:39:53.945 --> 01:39:56.125
and flatter instead of new process.

2253
01:39:56.875 --> 01:39:57.875
There's A new,

2254
01:39:58.715 --> 01:40:00.565
When they built those New stations, that's

2255
01:40:00.565 --> 01:40:01.685
what they Well, I know,

2256
01:40:01.685 --> 01:40:04.965
but my point is that there are other alternatives

2257
01:40:05.345 --> 01:40:08.845
and you know, it's like, to me it seems like all our boxes,

2258
01:40:09.305 --> 01:40:11.645
not the individual boxes, that's too big of a tax.

2259
01:40:11.785 --> 01:40:13.365
But the ones where they put the parcels,

2260
01:40:13.595 --> 01:40:15.085
that whole section should be ripped out

2261
01:40:15.085 --> 01:40:16.165
from the new one put in.

2262
01:40:16.315 --> 01:40:17.925
That is far more efficient.

2263
01:40:18.625 --> 01:40:19.885
You could put, who's gonna pay for that?

2264
01:40:20.595 --> 01:40:22.485
Well, the feds would, no, they won't.

2265
01:40:23.265 --> 01:40:25.005
The federal property, you're not gonna pay for it.

2266
01:40:25.005 --> 01:40:26.325
You can't pay. It's not a federal

2267
01:40:26.525 --> 01:40:27.885
property. I a question. We don't

2268
01:40:28.045 --> 01:40:28.605
Property. They

2269
01:40:28.605 --> 01:40:29.605
Run the mailbox. You can't

2270
01:40:29.605 --> 01:40:30.645
touch the boxes though.

2271
01:40:30.905 --> 01:40:35.285
But we can raise their rent. Okay. The rent, Brittany? Yes.

2272
01:40:35.745 --> 01:40:40.645
To help in, in our contact with the, uh,

2273
01:40:40.645 --> 01:40:45.205
representative could, could somebody draw a,

2274
01:40:45.585 --> 01:40:49.605
uh, a circle or circumference from each, uh,

2275
01:40:50.025 --> 01:40:53.845
postal station so that we would know in essence that

2276
01:40:54.035 --> 01:40:58.325
that half mile only satisfies 30%

2277
01:40:58.465 --> 01:41:01.245
of the residents versus what Steve is talking about.

2278
01:41:02.385 --> 01:41:03.645
You know, 90%.

2279
01:41:03.745 --> 01:41:07.205
So that we know in, in our district how many people

2280
01:41:07.745 --> 01:41:10.885
are covered and how many people are not covered by,

2281
01:41:13.025 --> 01:41:14.525
I'm not saying we can't do that.

2282
01:41:14.985 --> 01:41:17.685
My my hesitation would be that

2283
01:41:18.765 --> 01:41:22.145
if there are any deviations from how they apply it,

2284
01:41:22.345 --> 01:41:24.705
I would hate for that expectation to be set

2285
01:41:24.815 --> 01:41:27.425
with the residents and then it be incorrect.

2286
01:41:28.125 --> 01:41:31.145
No, I'm just using it for the purpose of me writing

2287
01:41:31.645 --> 01:41:35.825
and saying, Hey, this, this, this language in this contract

2288
01:41:37.015 --> 01:41:40.345
negates, uh, you know, X number of households

2289
01:41:40.345 --> 01:41:42.745
that are not able to receive their,

2290
01:41:42.755 --> 01:41:45.145
their packages at their postal facility,

2291
01:41:45.395 --> 01:41:48.745
which may necessitate them driving to the,

2292
01:41:48.805 --> 01:41:50.225
the local post station.

2293
01:41:50.335 --> 01:41:52.145
That it, it's information for me

2294
01:41:52.165 --> 01:41:55.225
to include in my justification or argument. We

2295
01:41:55.225 --> 01:41:57.505
Will, with the caveat, it will be an estimation.

2296
01:41:57.535 --> 01:41:59.625
Yeah. Um, but we can do that for District seven.

2297
01:41:59.965 --> 01:42:01.865
The other thing is, would you add,

2298
01:42:01.975 --> 01:42:04.665
when you're put together the letter saying that we support

2299
01:42:05.485 --> 01:42:09.265
the contract change, et cetera list,

2300
01:42:10.045 --> 01:42:11.345
not just Webster's office,

2301
01:42:12.525 --> 01:42:15.265
but the state US Senator's offices.

2302
01:42:15.785 --> 01:42:17.305
I mean, there are, you know mm-hmm.

2303
01:42:17.695 --> 01:42:19.705
There's, there's more than that one person

2304
01:42:19.815 --> 01:42:20.865
that can handle this.

2305
01:42:20.995 --> 01:42:24.545
Quite honestly, it needs to go as high as it can go.

2306
01:42:27.145 --> 01:42:29.325
Now, where I have gotten action in the past

2307
01:42:30.545 --> 01:42:33.445
is the requirement for a delivery is

2308
01:42:33.445 --> 01:42:35.325
that it fiscally either gets in your hands

2309
01:42:36.145 --> 01:42:39.615
or in the mailbox, sending it back

2310
01:42:39.615 --> 01:42:42.095
to Lady Lake doesn't cut it.

2311
01:42:42.795 --> 01:42:44.975
That's not a delivery. So if they have

2312
01:42:46.045 --> 01:42:47.815
falsified an official government

2313
01:42:48.375 --> 01:42:49.775
documents saying they've delivered

2314
01:42:50.635 --> 01:42:55.215
and they haven't, that pushes them even harder to get

2315
01:42:55.215 --> 01:42:56.335
that into your hands or at

2316
01:42:56.335 --> 01:42:57.455
least keep it at the local station.

2317
01:42:57.845 --> 01:42:59.095
Well, I still have some

2318
01:42:59.095 --> 01:43:02.935
of the initial boxes when I came here over a year ago.

2319
01:43:03.175 --> 01:43:05.015
'cause it was August, it was a a year.

2320
01:43:05.575 --> 01:43:08.935
I still have that, and it still has the, the, the,

2321
01:43:08.995 --> 01:43:10.255
um, paperwork on it.

2322
01:43:10.515 --> 01:43:15.015
But I think the ones that at least I still have

2323
01:43:15.545 --> 01:43:17.535
don't, don't fit that criteria.

2324
01:43:18.035 --> 01:43:19.775
But I can take a double look at that.

2325
01:43:20.285 --> 01:43:23.255
Yeah. Claim that it was delivered. Okay.

2326
01:43:23.275 --> 01:43:25.615
You'll find that it probably has been. All

2327
01:43:25.615 --> 01:43:26.295
Right. All

2328
01:43:26.295 --> 01:43:27.575
Right. Thank you. Thank

2329
01:43:27.575 --> 01:43:28.575
You. Sorry. Thank you. Sorry.

2330
01:43:28.575 --> 01:43:29.375
Sorry.

2331
01:43:30.595 --> 01:43:31.935
That's why have to pursue it.

2332
01:43:31.955 --> 01:43:33.895
And we end up, we're better off than that facility.

2333
01:43:34.515 --> 01:43:38.255
No, uh, so far it's better to keep your mom mouth shut.

2334
01:43:38.255 --> 01:43:42.975
Sometimes. Sometimes. Okay. Now that's end old business.

2335
01:43:44.075 --> 01:43:45.335
Yes. That concludes old business.

2336
01:43:45.365 --> 01:43:48.215
Beautiful. Uh, information items only.

2337
01:43:50.235 --> 01:43:51.885
Yes. Items, um, A, B

2338
01:43:51.885 --> 01:43:53.925
and C are included for informational purposes.

2339
01:43:53.945 --> 01:43:55.925
If you have any questions, we're happy to address them.

2340
01:43:56.745 --> 01:43:59.245
Any questions on the information? Nothing. Okay.

2341
01:43:59.245 --> 01:44:01.765
We'll move on to, uh, district manager's report.

2342
01:44:02.845 --> 01:44:04.205
Y Yes. We are really trying

2343
01:44:04.205 --> 01:44:05.285
to fill up your social calendar

2344
01:44:05.355 --> 01:44:07.845
with the district management reports this month.

2345
01:44:08.345 --> 01:44:12.485
Um, so the first is a reminder of your, um, adjusted

2346
01:44:13.085 --> 01:44:15.365
adjusted meeting schedule beginning next month.

2347
01:44:15.905 --> 01:44:17.565
Um, so your next meeting, um,

2348
01:44:17.875 --> 01:44:19.485
they're gonna occur on the Wednesday

2349
01:44:19.485 --> 01:44:22.565
before the second Friday at 8:00 AM at this location.

2350
01:44:22.905 --> 01:44:25.805
So we did include all the meeting dates to just to ensure

2351
01:44:26.075 --> 01:44:27.245
that they're on your calendar.

2352
01:44:27.785 --> 01:44:29.805
Um, and the clerk's office will be sending out

2353
01:44:29.805 --> 01:44:30.885
those reminders as well.

2354
01:44:31.865 --> 01:44:34.085
The what office? The clerk's office.

2355
01:44:34.105 --> 01:44:35.885
Oh, I thought you said post office. Oh, no.

2356
01:44:38.205 --> 01:44:40.805
Alrighty then. Okay.

2357
01:44:41.185 --> 01:44:44.125
Uh, the next three items, um, are all upcoming events.

2358
01:44:44.425 --> 01:44:46.045
Um, the first is a night

2359
01:44:46.245 --> 01:44:49.845
with DPM on September 17th, 2025.

2360
01:44:49.905 --> 01:44:53.405
That's gonna be held at the Elle Recreation Center from five

2361
01:44:53.425 --> 01:44:56.765
to 6:30 PM Um, this is the second

2362
01:44:56.825 --> 01:44:59.005
or third year that this event has been held,

2363
01:44:59.105 --> 01:45:00.765
and it's had a good turnout just

2364
01:45:00.765 --> 01:45:03.045
to understand the divisions within district property

2365
01:45:03.045 --> 01:45:06.125
management with basin management, water resources,

2366
01:45:06.485 --> 01:45:10.805
landscaping, uh, construction, uh, downtown squares,

2367
01:45:11.225 --> 01:45:13.525
all the divisions are there to understand what their roles

2368
01:45:13.545 --> 01:45:14.685
and responsibilities are.

2369
01:45:14.885 --> 01:45:16.525
I, I do have a question. Yes.

2370
01:45:16.985 --> 01:45:21.245
Um, the new website, the new updated website mm-hmm.

2371
01:45:21.515 --> 01:45:23.285
Very pretty, but almost useful.

2372
01:45:25.325 --> 01:45:26.725
I, I, I too much.

2373
01:45:27.245 --> 01:45:31.885
I spent a while trying to find a phone number for a neighbor

2374
01:45:32.025 --> 01:45:34.725
who had a problem that they thought they, well, a friend

2375
01:45:34.725 --> 01:45:36.045
that thought they had a sinkhole

2376
01:45:36.785 --> 01:45:38.485
and district property manager was

2377
01:45:38.485 --> 01:45:39.605
finally the number I gave her.

2378
01:45:39.605 --> 01:45:42.325
Mm-hmm. But finding phone numbers,

2379
01:45:42.515 --> 01:45:44.925
there's no easy, easy place.

2380
01:45:45.065 --> 01:45:47.365
So well see if there's some way

2381
01:45:47.365 --> 01:45:50.165
to just under one tab put all phone numbers, you know.

2382
01:45:50.945 --> 01:45:52.365
No, thank you. We appreciate the feedback.

2383
01:45:52.385 --> 01:45:54.525
The, the new website launched a year ago.

2384
01:45:55.105 --> 01:45:57.925
Um, we're still making tweaks to it, so if you see issues

2385
01:45:57.925 --> 01:46:01.525
where it may make sense to us, us, but it Right.

2386
01:46:01.555 --> 01:46:02.685
They couldn't find anything.

2387
01:46:02.685 --> 01:46:04.085
And I said, okay, I'm here

2388
01:46:04.105 --> 01:46:06.245
and this is what I found and this is what they need.

2389
01:46:07.065 --> 01:46:10.605
And, you know, I finally sent them to the big office

2390
01:46:10.745 --> 01:46:11.885
and they were able to help them,

2391
01:46:12.065 --> 01:46:16.365
but they spent an hour trying to find stuff. So we'll take

2392
01:46:16.365 --> 01:46:17.365
A look at that. They should

2393
01:46:17.365 --> 01:46:19.245
be like all phone number's here.

2394
01:46:20.145 --> 01:46:22.005
And Yeah, I could have sent her to her phone book,

2395
01:46:22.025 --> 01:46:23.645
but she should be looking for her phone.

2396
01:46:27.385 --> 01:46:29.325
No, thank you. We, we appreciate the feedback.

2397
01:46:31.145 --> 01:46:34.565
Uh, the next item is Government Day on November 1st from

2398
01:46:34.705 --> 01:46:37.445
10:00 AM to 1:00 PM That will be, again,

2399
01:46:37.445 --> 01:46:39.605
held at the Eisenhower Recreation Center.

2400
01:46:40.145 --> 01:46:43.485
Um, there will be a signup sheet going around. Got

2401
01:46:43.485 --> 01:46:44.485
It. I have it

2402
01:46:44.485 --> 01:46:45.725
right here. I'll bring it to you.

2403
01:46:45.835 --> 01:46:48.645
Good. Yes. So if each supervisor,

2404
01:46:48.865 --> 01:46:51.485
we don't have more than one supervisor in attendance at one

2405
01:46:51.485 --> 01:46:54.285
time, but if you can select your time slot,

2406
01:46:54.535 --> 01:46:56.125
there will be designated space

2407
01:46:56.345 --> 01:46:59.125
for a representative for District seven. Got it.

2408
01:46:59.945 --> 01:47:03.445
And the last one ready on a home, uh,

2409
01:47:03.845 --> 01:47:06.485
repainting paint flag, uh, profile book.

2410
01:47:06.825 --> 01:47:08.805
And I did Miss National Night Out.

2411
01:47:08.805 --> 01:47:11.845
It's hosted by community Watch with all surrounding fire

2412
01:47:11.905 --> 01:47:13.325
and law enforcement agencies.

2413
01:47:13.785 --> 01:47:17.365
Um, that's October 7th, so could mark that one as well.

2414
01:47:17.395 --> 01:47:19.685
Well, how about that? Seven E the repainting?

2415
01:47:20.345 --> 01:47:22.285
Yes. Got it.

2416
01:47:22.785 --> 01:47:24.805
We got a pallet, you know, I got,

2417
01:47:25.325 --> 01:47:26.365
I got the question with that.

2418
01:47:26.745 --> 01:47:28.445
No, and Brittany, and, and you too.

2419
01:47:28.745 --> 01:47:31.885
Um, the, on that, we haven't revised

2420
01:47:31.985 --> 01:47:36.965
or updated our, uh, color platinum for, uh, the homes.

2421
01:47:37.145 --> 01:47:38.565
Of course, courtyard Villages

2422
01:47:38.565 --> 01:47:40.165
and Patio Village are a little more stricter.

2423
01:47:40.465 --> 01:47:44.725
But, uh, maybe it's wise that we have a meeting to revise

2424
01:47:44.725 --> 01:47:47.285
that, to update the, uh, pallet, like the colors.

2425
01:47:47.985 --> 01:47:51.605
Uh, is that recommended to do it periodically?

2426
01:47:51.605 --> 01:47:53.565
Because it's been about 10 years since we looked at that.

2427
01:47:55.945 --> 01:47:57.565
So that's at the board's discretion.

2428
01:47:57.825 --> 01:48:02.485
Um, the pallet that Ms. Boyd is going to present is a pallet

2429
01:48:02.485 --> 01:48:05.205
that is available in a new format to residents.

2430
01:48:05.465 --> 01:48:08.765
You are correct. Various districts have selected, um,

2431
01:48:10.415 --> 01:48:12.645
color ranges and cues for

2432
01:48:12.645 --> 01:48:16.005
what is acceptable on the main structure of the home

2433
01:48:16.305 --> 01:48:17.805
as trim and accent colors.

2434
01:48:18.465 --> 01:48:20.925
Um, I know there was recently a question from a resident

2435
01:48:20.925 --> 01:48:23.485
that they had requested a color

2436
01:48:24.555 --> 01:48:26.965
that was not an acceptable trim color

2437
01:48:27.105 --> 01:48:29.605
and their a RC application was denied.

2438
01:48:30.105 --> 01:48:33.005
Um, it's, it is board discretion.

2439
01:48:33.465 --> 01:48:35.805
Um, I'll defer to Ms. Boyd.

2440
01:48:35.805 --> 01:48:38.765
She can kind of explain the, the thought process of what

2441
01:48:39.445 --> 01:48:42.725
districts have looked at, um, as far as accent colors,

2442
01:48:43.355 --> 01:48:46.165
trim colors versus a very dark color on the

2443
01:48:46.635 --> 01:48:48.285
primary base of the home.

2444
01:48:48.315 --> 01:48:50.525
Does that get revised more often than 10 years?

2445
01:48:50.525 --> 01:48:52.805
Does that, I know it's up to the individual districts,

2446
01:48:53.145 --> 01:48:56.285
but, uh, are we a little lack on that in this district

2447
01:48:56.385 --> 01:48:58.445
by not looking at it or, you know,

2448
01:48:59.425 --> 01:49:02.725
No, there was a significant, um, review that took place.

2449
01:49:03.065 --> 01:49:06.045
Um, honestly, I'm not aware of many issues

2450
01:49:06.045 --> 01:49:07.525
that have come up in District seven

2451
01:49:08.145 --> 01:49:10.365
except the one most recently with respect

2452
01:49:10.365 --> 01:49:11.765
to trim color. Yeah.

2453
01:49:11.875 --> 01:49:13.365
Yeah. Okay, good. So, okay.

2454
01:49:14.105 --> 01:49:17.645
So yes. Um, with this patent palette, um, each

2455
01:49:17.825 --> 01:49:21.045
of the colors, it will show what district

2456
01:49:21.045 --> 01:49:22.565
that those colors are allowed in.

2457
01:49:22.745 --> 01:49:25.605
For example, your district does not allow certain dark

2458
01:49:25.605 --> 01:49:28.365
colors for a base color, but it's allowed for a trim.

2459
01:49:28.585 --> 01:49:31.805
And it is marked on here, say district one through six

2460
01:49:31.805 --> 01:49:35.205
that's allowed or for just base or just trim.

2461
01:49:35.785 --> 01:49:38.525
Um, so all that information is there.

2462
01:49:39.115 --> 01:49:41.805
This will be able to be at all of our offices.

2463
01:49:42.265 --> 01:49:43.725
So we'll have it at our Brownwood,

2464
01:49:43.725 --> 01:49:45.685
we'll have it at our Lake Sumter Landing office.

2465
01:49:46.345 --> 01:49:49.205
Our boards that we have right now are just available at the

2466
01:49:49.205 --> 01:49:50.285
Lake Sumter Landing office,

2467
01:49:50.285 --> 01:49:52.365
because that was all we had was the boards.

2468
01:49:52.545 --> 01:49:55.845
So now we'll have these nice, um, book lists

2469
01:49:56.155 --> 01:49:58.605
that will be able, they can sit down, look at them.

2470
01:49:58.865 --> 01:50:00.885
We also, on our website, um,

2471
01:50:00.985 --> 01:50:02.365
on the community standards page,

2472
01:50:02.385 --> 01:50:05.005
we also have a link on there where if you go to the bottom

2473
01:50:05.025 --> 01:50:06.965
of that page, it'll have the paint pals

2474
01:50:07.145 --> 01:50:08.245
and it'll have this as well.

2475
01:50:08.825 --> 01:50:11.445
So if someone wants, uh, access at their home,

2476
01:50:11.515 --> 01:50:13.685
Well in that, on that,

2477
01:50:13.685 --> 01:50:16.965
it tells you what's gonna happen is we have a resident

2478
01:50:16.965 --> 01:50:19.845
that wants a dark color for the house, A darker,

2479
01:50:20.385 --> 01:50:21.805
of course we are not gonna accept black,

2480
01:50:22.265 --> 01:50:24.005
but, uh, you know, a dark color

2481
01:50:24.125 --> 01:50:25.485
and a lighter color for the trim.

2482
01:50:25.735 --> 01:50:28.605
Other districts have it. District seven doesn't have it.

2483
01:50:29.035 --> 01:50:32.445
Okay. Now, obviously you guess what's gonna happen,

2484
01:50:32.535 --> 01:50:33.845
we'll get a call from the resident.

2485
01:50:33.845 --> 01:50:35.125
Well, they have it at District six.

2486
01:50:35.185 --> 01:50:36.725
How come I can't have it at District seven?

2487
01:50:37.265 --> 01:50:40.445
Uh, that's gonna happen. Um, how do we address that?

2488
01:50:40.795 --> 01:50:42.325
Obviously we could revise it.

2489
01:50:42.945 --> 01:50:44.365
You know, we don't wanna revise it every

2490
01:50:44.365 --> 01:50:45.405
time somebody complains.

2491
01:50:46.025 --> 01:50:48.245
But, uh, that may be a problem. Got

2492
01:50:48.245 --> 01:50:49.245
It. If they can't find something

2493
01:50:49.245 --> 01:50:51.645
to paint their house with Yeah.

2494
01:50:51.715 --> 01:50:55.645
With all those options, you know, okay. Haven't help us.

2495
01:50:56.225 --> 01:50:58.445
And some of it is based on original construction

2496
01:50:58.475 --> 01:51:01.605
that was in the district or the, the village.

2497
01:51:02.305 --> 01:51:05.645
Um, and considering what the surrounding properties are

2498
01:51:05.865 --> 01:51:07.645
and developing your hue ranges.

2499
01:51:08.145 --> 01:51:10.605
So that was factored in when you made your

2500
01:51:11.085 --> 01:51:12.125
decision originally.

2501
01:51:12.505 --> 01:51:14.365
That's not to say that it can't be adjusted,

2502
01:51:14.785 --> 01:51:15.925
but also considering

2503
01:51:15.995 --> 01:51:18.325
what do the surrounding properties look like

2504
01:51:18.545 --> 01:51:22.245
and what it, um, enhance that enhance

2505
01:51:22.625 --> 01:51:23.805
or Yes.

2506
01:51:25.095 --> 01:51:28.485
Would the aesthetics match the surrounding community? Right.

2507
01:51:28.865 --> 01:51:30.965
It becomes a matter of opinion sometimes too.

2508
01:51:31.105 --> 01:51:34.085
You know, it becomes a problem or case. Yeah. Okay.

2509
01:51:34.345 --> 01:51:39.125
Or lack of. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

2510
01:51:39.305 --> 01:51:40.405
So now very good.

2511
01:51:40.545 --> 01:51:43.645
Um, district council reports. Anything Michelle,

2512
01:51:43.795 --> 01:51:45.085
Nothing further to report,

2513
01:51:45.105 --> 01:51:46.605
but I'd be happy to answer any questions.

2514
01:51:47.225 --> 01:51:49.405
Any questions? No, thank you Michelle for being here.

2515
01:51:49.525 --> 01:51:52.245
Michelle. Thanks. Uh, supervisors Commons.

2516
01:51:52.245 --> 01:51:54.525
We'll start with Ed. Uh, p what,

2517
01:51:54.945 --> 01:51:57.125
Uh, let me do, yeah, I tell you what,

2518
01:51:57.265 --> 01:52:00.405
pw the meeting lasted probably all 45 minutes.

2519
01:52:00.665 --> 01:52:03.765
It was, it, it went quick.

2520
01:52:06.105 --> 01:52:09.405
The only, the only two items of that were in

2521
01:52:09.425 --> 01:52:14.045
of any note was, uh, reissuing of the contract for, uh,

2522
01:52:14.105 --> 01:52:17.365
the pond, maintenance for weed control and such.

2523
01:52:17.905 --> 01:52:20.325
And basically what it, it boiled down

2524
01:52:20.325 --> 01:52:24.765
to is now there's three different, uh, vendors, contractors.

2525
01:52:25.585 --> 01:52:29.285
Um, and so we were only looking at those ponds

2526
01:52:29.285 --> 01:52:30.965
that fall within the purview of pw.

2527
01:52:31.105 --> 01:52:34.845
So there's gonna to be, uh, I guess a contractor up north,

2528
01:52:35.075 --> 01:52:37.045
there's gonna be a contractor down south,

2529
01:52:37.145 --> 01:52:38.645
and we have the ones in the middle.

2530
01:52:39.625 --> 01:52:40.645
And the only other item,

2531
01:52:40.905 --> 01:52:45.805
and it didn't even uh, elicit any kind, uh,

2532
01:52:45.895 --> 01:52:48.885
discussion by any of the board members was the cost

2533
01:52:48.885 --> 01:52:52.725
of $142,000 for pickle balls, um, that they,

2534
01:52:52.795 --> 01:52:53.805
that they're paying for.

2535
01:52:53.985 --> 01:52:56.925
Um, pretty much that's it. You know, 45 minutes

2536
01:52:56.925 --> 01:52:58.205
Rolled around and we were out of there.

2537
01:52:58.445 --> 01:53:01.285
140,000 here. 140,000 there pretty soon.

2538
01:53:01.285 --> 01:53:02.485
It's real money. Yeah, it's real

2539
01:53:02.485 --> 01:53:03.485
Money. You

2540
01:53:03.485 --> 01:53:04.885
know what happened, honestly, I'm sorry.

2541
01:53:05.075 --> 01:53:08.805
Real quick on that. 142,000 in Prack about seven,

2542
01:53:08.805 --> 01:53:10.965
eight years ago, we had the same exact,

2543
01:53:11.395 --> 01:53:13.285
they spent about a hundred something thousand dollars.

2544
01:53:13.585 --> 01:53:15.005
Now, I don't know how long that was.

2545
01:53:15.425 --> 01:53:17.005
It could have been five, six years ago,

2546
01:53:17.185 --> 01:53:19.125
but within five years they used a hundred thousand

2547
01:53:19.125 --> 01:53:20.285
dollars worth of pickle balls.

2548
01:53:20.345 --> 01:53:22.365
Oh yeah. So, so that's what happened.

2549
01:53:22.405 --> 01:53:24.485
When you're there a long time, history helps a little bit.

2550
01:53:25.065 --> 01:53:27.805
Um, I don't know why they would use a hundred thousand

2551
01:53:27.805 --> 01:53:29.165
dollars in pickle balls within five,

2552
01:53:29.225 --> 01:53:30.725
six years, but they did.

2553
01:53:30.915 --> 01:53:32.885
Okay. People take 'em home. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2554
01:53:32.885 --> 01:53:34.245
Obviously that should have been looked at

2555
01:53:34.345 --> 01:53:35.445
or brought up at least.

2556
01:53:35.705 --> 01:53:37.205
But history would home, you know,

2557
01:53:37.205 --> 01:53:39.045
that obviously the natural,

2558
01:53:39.045 --> 01:53:40.845
because that was, when I read that, I said

2559
01:53:41.625 --> 01:53:43.365
it was like a flashback from five years ago.

2560
01:53:43.685 --> 01:53:44.925
'cause that was a big deal. You know,

2561
01:53:45.005 --> 01:53:46.325
a hundred thousand dollars on pickleball.

2562
01:53:46.325 --> 01:53:48.765
Well, and we have more pickleball courses now. Yeah.

2563
01:53:48.815 --> 01:53:49.925
We've ever had. Yeah.

2564
01:53:49.945 --> 01:53:51.765
But, uh, that's a lot of my pickle balls.

2565
01:53:51.765 --> 01:53:54.845
You know, you and the argument was well in golf's a lot

2566
01:53:54.845 --> 01:53:56.005
of money on golf courses though.

2567
01:53:56.075 --> 01:53:57.885
Well, the argument is it's not the ball.

2568
01:53:58.185 --> 01:54:00.885
The argument is you have to buy your own, uh, golf ball.

2569
01:54:00.885 --> 01:54:04.045
Like, like the, that the for golf ball too. Yeah.

2570
01:54:04.065 --> 01:54:05.645
Why can't they buy their own pickle ball?

2571
01:54:05.785 --> 01:54:07.005
You know, that was the argument.

2572
01:54:07.725 --> 01:54:10.565
Absolutely. If I read, if I read that correctly,

2573
01:54:10.685 --> 01:54:12.445
I did the math on it, maybe I did it wrong.

2574
01:54:12.625 --> 01:54:15.765
It said it was 150 400 dozen.

2575
01:54:16.305 --> 01:54:19.005
It comes out to $2 and 20 cents a ball.

2576
01:54:19.665 --> 01:54:23.725
Is that really possible? Yeah. You got me a pickle ball.

2577
01:54:23.795 --> 01:54:24.795
It's just a plastic.

2578
01:54:25.665 --> 01:54:27.365
Hey, it recorded.

2579
01:54:27.435 --> 01:54:29.245
Well, obviously somebody must be eating who's in person.

2580
01:54:30.255 --> 01:54:32.085
Where did it go? Is

2581
01:54:32.085 --> 01:54:33.085
That right? Did I figure that

2582
01:54:33.085 --> 01:54:35.245
right Out? Two 20. It's, it's

2583
01:54:35.665 --> 01:54:39.085
$26 and 38 cents per dozen. Yeah.

2584
01:54:39.185 --> 01:54:41.885
So Pickle ball two 20. Yeah. It,

2585
01:54:42.065 --> 01:54:43.285
That's outrageous. What do

2586
01:54:43.285 --> 01:54:44.285
You pay for golf ball?

2587
01:54:44.395 --> 01:54:45.445
This was competitive

2588
01:54:45.445 --> 01:54:46.445
Way. It doesn't matter. I'm paying for

2589
01:54:46.445 --> 01:54:46.845
the golf

2590
01:54:46.845 --> 01:54:47.965
ball myself. Yeah,

2591
01:54:48.065 --> 01:54:49.685
That's the, The pickleball people.

2592
01:54:51.035 --> 01:54:53.365
That one to me is, is is absurd.

2593
01:54:53.395 --> 01:54:55.165
Just like, uh, I don't want to bring it up,

2594
01:54:55.165 --> 01:54:57.485
but I will, uh, about the wood shop.

2595
01:54:57.785 --> 01:55:00.925
How it's the only club in the villages that subsidized.

2596
01:55:02.105 --> 01:55:04.085
That's absurd to me. I brought that up when

2597
01:55:04.085 --> 01:55:05.485
that came up a year or so ago.

2598
01:55:05.775 --> 01:55:08.245
How'd you make up? I didn't do well.

2599
01:55:08.645 --> 01:55:11.285
Somebody threw a hunk of wood through my window, uh,

2600
01:55:11.285 --> 01:55:14.085
pickle balls Or $24

2601
01:55:14.265 --> 01:55:16.805
and 60 cents a dozen on Amazon.

2602
01:55:17.225 --> 01:55:18.845
So that's about the same thing. Yeah.

2603
01:55:19.065 --> 01:55:21.885
Oh, sorry. Well, sorry. You're right.

2604
01:55:21.995 --> 01:55:23.445
Well, they should buy their own pickleball.

2605
01:55:23.465 --> 01:55:24.465
That's it for me.

2606
01:55:25.345 --> 01:55:27.085
I'm good. What The reason that we own, the reason

2607
01:55:27.085 --> 01:55:29.045
that we provide some is I go to a rec center.

2608
01:55:29.125 --> 01:55:31.285
I just moved down here. I've never played pickleball.

2609
01:55:31.365 --> 01:55:33.085
I can go in and get paddles and,

2610
01:55:33.145 --> 01:55:34.685
and pickle balls to test it out.

2611
01:55:34.845 --> 01:55:36.965
I mean, that's what we do. Mm-hmm. You can get bocce balls

2612
01:55:36.965 --> 01:55:38.245
at every, every center.

2613
01:55:38.305 --> 01:55:39.965
You get horseshoes at every center. Mm-hmm.

2614
01:55:39.965 --> 01:55:41.165
You don't tell you to buy your own.

2615
01:55:41.825 --> 01:55:44.085
That's part of the process of being there

2616
01:55:44.085 --> 01:55:46.365
and being able to use the facility. Ah, that professional.

2617
01:55:46.585 --> 01:55:47.805
We should do that on the golf courses.

2618
01:55:47.955 --> 01:55:50.205
Then we should have golf courses for you to try it out.

2619
01:55:51.345 --> 01:55:53.085
You go to The, there's a lot of people come on.

2620
01:55:53.085 --> 01:55:54.365
The golf courses should be there.

2621
01:55:54.875 --> 01:55:56.205
Okay. Alright. All right. Sorry.

2622
01:55:56.215 --> 01:55:57.725
Let's go Steve next I comments.

2623
01:55:58.755 --> 01:56:03.125
Okay. Uh, vendor are still

2624
01:56:03.155 --> 01:56:05.485
utilizing the pools for their own

2625
01:56:07.315 --> 01:56:09.005
private bathrooms, et cetera.

2626
01:56:11.345 --> 01:56:13.565
And I don't believe that's permitted. Yeah.

2627
01:56:13.735 --> 01:56:18.125
Under, I asked, uh, I asked Bruce round about that, uh,

2628
01:56:18.345 --> 01:56:20.125
at the before the PWAC meeting,

2629
01:56:20.265 --> 01:56:24.805
and he said, uh, contractors are permitted to go ahead

2630
01:56:24.805 --> 01:56:27.125
and use those facilities, the restrooms,

2631
01:56:27.145 --> 01:56:29.205
The restroom, The restrooms, uh, nothing else.

2632
01:56:29.405 --> 01:56:30.685
I did raise the question.

2633
01:56:30.845 --> 01:56:33.725
I said, and Steve, you're gonna attend for me, the,

2634
01:56:33.945 --> 01:56:38.325
the joint P-A-A-A-C meeting that's gonna discuss uh,

2635
01:56:38.745 --> 01:56:41.965
access, controlled access to the amenities, the pools and,

2636
01:56:42.225 --> 01:56:45.925
and whatnot, at which time that's gonna go away.

2637
01:56:45.925 --> 01:56:48.605
As a Ben, if that's adopted, that will probably go away

2638
01:56:48.625 --> 01:56:52.405
as a benefit for the vendors driving around the community.

2639
01:56:52.605 --> 01:56:54.165
'cause they will strictly access, will

2640
01:56:54.805 --> 01:56:57.285
strictly then be limited to residents. That's

2641
01:56:57.325 --> 01:56:58.325
Correct. Well, who, who

2642
01:56:58.325 --> 01:56:59.925
gave them permission to use it?

2643
01:56:59.985 --> 01:57:01.165
Who authorized it?

2644
01:57:01.315 --> 01:57:03.725
Well, they're, they're considered a public facility.

2645
01:57:04.745 --> 01:57:06.285
Now, if we move to access control,

2646
01:57:06.285 --> 01:57:07.285
That's an amenity.

2647
01:57:07.465 --> 01:57:08.465
The pools.

2648
01:57:09.145 --> 01:57:11.045
But they're, they're owned by governmental entities.

2649
01:57:11.825 --> 01:57:13.365
So they're not utilizing the pool,

2650
01:57:13.395 --> 01:57:15.005
they're utilizing the restroom.

2651
01:57:15.005 --> 01:57:17.765
However, if we go towards access control,

2652
01:57:18.465 --> 01:57:21.885
the public being the resident still has access to the pool

2653
01:57:21.885 --> 01:57:23.245
through a valid id.

2654
01:57:24.185 --> 01:57:27.005
Um, but everyone else will not be able to access it.

2655
01:57:29.305 --> 01:57:31.885
It is dated. They're going into the pool area

2656
01:57:32.535 --> 01:57:33.535
Again. It is,

2657
01:57:33.535 --> 01:57:35.565
it, it's what exists now. And

2658
01:57:36.165 --> 01:57:37.725
Yeah, the question is, is why doesnt

2659
01:57:37.725 --> 01:57:39.245
exist? Who gave them permission?

2660
01:57:39.635 --> 01:57:41.525
Because it's, well, she said

2661
01:57:41.525 --> 01:57:42.885
because it was a public building.

2662
01:57:43.395 --> 01:57:46.285
Yeah, but it's not a public building. We pay for it

2663
01:57:46.975 --> 01:57:48.565
Again at the end of the day. Any other,

2664
01:57:49.105 --> 01:57:50.105
Oh, that's enough. Okay.

2665
01:57:50.105 --> 01:57:51.885
Judy Ann? I'm fine.

2666
01:57:52.205 --> 01:57:53.885
I just want, again, thank all the staff

2667
01:57:53.885 --> 01:57:55.365
that do all of these things that

2668
01:57:57.605 --> 01:57:58.605
Absolutely.

2669
01:57:59.225 --> 01:58:01.165
Uh, the only last thing I have is about the,

2670
01:58:01.185 --> 01:58:02.565
the change in the meeting dates.

2671
01:58:03.365 --> 01:58:04.445
I didn't look this morning,

2672
01:58:04.545 --> 01:58:07.165
but is that put up at the postal stations yet?

2673
01:58:07.165 --> 01:58:09.725
And if not, I would say it needs to immediately get up there

2674
01:58:10.645 --> 01:58:12.935
because it's not that long until we have a

2675
01:58:12.935 --> 01:58:13.935
Case. I will verify that.

2676
01:58:13.935 --> 01:58:14.375
Yeah.

2677
01:58:15.395 --> 01:58:16.415
You know what I'm talking about?

2678
01:58:16.875 --> 01:58:19.615
Yes. Yeah. You can take the pictures down. It hasn't.

2679
01:58:24.735 --> 01:58:27.135
I checked. We're the only ones that have pictures still.

2680
01:58:27.165 --> 01:58:29.135
Yeah. That was on purpose. We did that to you. Yeah.

2681
01:58:29.135 --> 01:58:30.695
And I think it's good, a good process.

2682
01:58:31.135 --> 01:58:33.375
I do, in my, my first opinion, few years ago,

2683
01:58:33.865 --> 01:58:35.215
we're the only ones that have our pictures

2684
01:58:35.215 --> 01:58:36.655
of now people relate who we are.

2685
01:58:36.715 --> 01:58:38.175
That's why when you go to the bathroom

2686
01:58:38.235 --> 01:58:40.335
or something in, uh, McDonald's, they know who you are.

2687
01:58:42.065 --> 01:58:46.205
Who you are. Jerry. No, I think, I think it's important.

2688
01:58:46.365 --> 01:58:48.885
I do. I, uh, I think people should know who the heck you are

2689
01:58:48.885 --> 01:58:50.325
because they look at it,

2690
01:58:50.325 --> 01:58:51.805
they see a phone number, they don't know.

2691
01:58:51.905 --> 01:58:54.045
You know, they don't. But, uh, yeah.

2692
01:58:54.045 --> 01:58:55.445
That, that should be updated. But it's good.

2693
01:58:55.445 --> 01:58:57.845
You have and all.

2694
01:58:57.845 --> 01:58:59.885
We're the only issue that are, you know,

2695
01:58:59.905 --> 01:59:01.125
the four, the locations.

2696
01:59:01.145 --> 01:59:03.245
We have our pictures where the other districts don't have,

2697
01:59:03.745 --> 01:59:07.845
you know, and four or five years I've gotten one phone call.

2698
01:59:08.115 --> 01:59:11.125
Yeah. Oh. So Jerry gets a ton of 'em.

2699
01:59:11.125 --> 01:59:13.405
But I think because I'm at the top of the stack

2700
01:59:13.545 --> 01:59:15.725
as a supervisor one and I get phone calls.

2701
01:59:16.715 --> 01:59:19.285
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that when I got one.

2702
01:59:19.285 --> 01:59:22.365
That'd be well liked. Okay, let's let, uh,

2703
01:59:22.365 --> 01:59:23.605
do I get a motion to adjourn?

2704
01:59:23.605 --> 01:59:26.605
Motion to adjourn. Second. A second. All in favor? Aye.

2705
01:59:26.975 --> 01:59:29.405
We're over time. Thank you. Thank you Owen.

2706
01:59:29.405 --> 01:59:30.205
Thanks for coming. Thank you.