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Good morning everyone.

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Good morning. The meeting of District five, uh,

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community developed, uh, district is now called to order.

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As we begin our meeting, we always start with a roll call

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of our officers and elected supervisors, Mr. Walter Martin.

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Here, Mr. Jerry Noll. Here.

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Jerry Felicis present.

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And Mark Schweiker, I believe, is on a very lovely vacation.

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So he is not with us today. He's excused.

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And I'm Gary Cato, your chair for the day,

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if you would please rise, uh, for the Pledge of Allegiance

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to the flag, followed by a brief moment of silence,

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I pledge into the

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Flag of

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The United States of America,

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and to the republic for which

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It stands, one nation under God,

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Indivisible, With liberty and justice for all.

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You may be seated and happy Easter.

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For those who have the,

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We have, uh, some of our usual visitors today.

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Nice to have you here again, Lee, Ken, so forth.

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And we have some guests today.

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So I'll run through how we operate.

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Uh, we're gonna be going through our agenda

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and as we go through our agenda, if there is an item

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that you wish to speak to, all you have

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to do is raise your hand, be recognized by the chair,

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you then proceed to the podium.

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Give us your name and your address,

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and then you have up to three minutes.

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Uh, we can give you a little longer if

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we have time to do that.

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Uh, and that's kind of how our procedure works.

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If you wish to talk about something

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that is not listed on the agenda, same thing.

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At the end of the meeting, we will have audience comment.

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We'll recognize you, proceed to the podium, same thing.

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Give us your name, give us your

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address, and then you can speak.

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So, welcome, nice to have you here today.

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I see we have some new guests with us.

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So good to be, have you here.

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Our first order of business is going to be, uh,

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law Enforcement quarterly updates,

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and I believe the Good Sergeant is here.

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Good morning. Welcome, maam.

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Good morning. My name's Sergeant Adam Dodge

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with the Sumter County Sheriff's Office.

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And I'm here to provide you with your

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quarterly law enforcement update.

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Uh, now, in, in past quarters, we've been unable

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to provide you with statistics on crashes

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and, uh, citations issued.

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I do have numbers to provide this quarter,

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however, I've been warned that, uh,

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if the numbers end up being off by 10

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or so, don't be shocked at that.

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We're still in the process of inputting, uh,

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paper tickets that were issued.

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Uh, but these are, uh, fairly accurate numbers.

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If they're 10 higher or 10 lower in six

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months, please don't be upset with me.

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This is the best numbers our

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records division was able to provide.

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We also have received records, so, you know,

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from the public safety department,

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what they have on their records too.

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Oh, fantastic. Yours are most interesting. Go right ahead.

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Okay. Alright. So, uh, during the last quarter,

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Suffolk County Sheriff's Office responded to a total

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of 400 hundred 67 vehicle crashes, 36 golf cart crashes.

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And we issued, uh,

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here in the villages area a 653 a motor vehicle citation.

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So we are, uh, out

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and about on our roadways, trying to keep traffic, um,

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at a safe speed and, and, uh, flowing smoothly.

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And we talk about traffic and traffic flow.

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Um, I want to bring to your attention,

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some people aren't aware of the great working relationship

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that the Sheriff's Office enjoys with Community Watch.

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Mm-hmm. Uh, provided through the district, uh,

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the Sheriff's Office and Community Watch together, um,

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provided some training to community watch drivers

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and what's called Tims,

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which is Traffic Incident Management System.

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Uh, and that as well as some, uh,

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special markings on community watch vehicles, uh,

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give them the ability to assist us in managing traffic flow,

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whether it's, uh, for a rock, a blocked roadway

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or, uh, in the instance of a crash.

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And that's been a great asset for the Sheriff's Office, uh,

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to help keep that traffic moving smoothly

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and safely, allowing the deputies

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to conduct their investigation

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and then get that roadway open as soon as possible.

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Uh, our working relationship with Community Watch is,

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is really, um, it's, it's special

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because it's different than what you'd, uh, anticipate

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or expect or something you'd see in other areas.

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I wanna share with you, we had a recent golf cart theft at,

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uh, lake Sumter Landing.

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And typically when we, when a golf cart theft is reported at

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Lake Sumter Landing, we say, we'll, we'll help you find it,

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'cause it's probably parked somewhere.

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And they just, uh, they're confused about where they are.

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Uh, however, this was a, a legitimate case

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where a golf cart was taken by another individual, uh,

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the detective in investigating that located

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security camera video in the area,

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and ultimately found, uh, gate camera video, uh,

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of this individual driving the golf cart.

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Um, so we were able to locate that individual, recover

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that golf cart, and I think that our, uh,

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great working relationship with Community Watch was, uh,

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a big factor and,

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and, uh, bringing that case to a resolution.

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So I just wanna make sure that,

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that you're aware of, of that.

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Uh, anytime we get a chance to,

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to share information from the Sheriff's Office, we'd like

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to give an update on kind of the things

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that are, that are happening.

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And one thing that we're seeing we continue

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to see are scams.

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Uh, and the scams happen everywhere I know,

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but I think that this area, um, we see more scams.

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Uh, likely your constituents come from a generation

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where they look people in the eye, they shook hands,

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and what they said they were gonna do is what they meant.

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And unfortunately, today, there's a lot

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of young people looking to take advantage of that trust.

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Um, I'd encourage you,

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if you get a phone call from the Sheriff's office

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that says you have a warrant for your arrest, please,

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no, it's a scam, right?

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Uh, you'll know you have a warrant for your arrest

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when we show up to arrest you, right?

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We're not gonna call and give you a heads up.

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Yeah, that would do it. Um,

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so if they say you've missed jury duty, uh,

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and there's a warrant for your arrest, but if you go get

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$3,000 in Home Depot gift cards, it is a scam, right?

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It's unfortunate that you have to, uh, assume

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that when someone calls you out of the blue,

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that they're likely not telling you the truth.

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Um, sharing information about scams,

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if you encounter something suspicious, don't be afraid

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to reach out to the Sheriff's office.

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We have a mobile app, and we'd ask that you,

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if you encounter a potential scam, please let us know.

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Uh, that information is sent

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to our white collar crimes detective vetted to verify it

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as a scam and then forward it out to all the users

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of our mobile app just to make them aware.

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Um, the more information, if you've heard of a scam,

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when you encounter it, you're likely to say,

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Hey, I heard about this.

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My, my neighbor down the street told me, uh,

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that there's something going on

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with toll violations, that it's a scam.

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And it is. But just that knowledge and,

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and having that information is gonna keep

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people from becoming a victim.

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So, gentlemen,

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that's all the information I have for you today.

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I'd be more than happy to answer

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any questions if you have any. I got one.

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Is that 653 car accidents?

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Um, I mean, taken violations, um, up or down?

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Uh, I believe that number is technically lower than,

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than quarters that we saw, uh, one year ago.

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It's not a, uh, uh, significant amount within probably 10%.

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Uh, we have seen quarters with significantly higher, uh,

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tickets issued.

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And one factor in this was

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because of our typical process

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for issuing citations was done almost completely digitally.

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Uh, and this required the deputies,

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they're issuing citations on printed paper,

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however, that, that the paper

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was then physically carried to our records division.

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And, and that that transmittal process

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has been an extra step in a hurdle.

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So we, we did see, uh, fewer citations,

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but when you look at the number, uh, just over that quarter,

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it's a, it's a significant number of golf.

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Golf, excuse me, uh, motor vehicle citations issued.

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Great question. Thank you. Okay.

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Uh, Sergeant, regarding the, uh, relationship

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between Community Watch

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and the, uh, Sheriff's Department,

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what is Community Watch's responsibility as far

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as moving the vehicles?

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So they just, uh, control traffic

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and get the traffic to go around.

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And then, then they, they are moved when you guys arrive.

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Community watch's role there is, they're assisting us in,

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and the training really came down to the best ways

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to place vehicles as a blocking, uh,

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to encourage the motorists to, uh,

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merge at a safe time and speed.

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Uh, and it, it's education for the, uh, driver there

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and helping us maintain that safe area.

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Um, their role wouldn't be to show up

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and say, Hey, you know,

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you guys have gotta get out of the road.

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Let's get you moved. They're gonna make sure the scene's

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as safe as possible prior to our arrival,

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and then while we're there so we can focus on getting that

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investigation conducted in the roadway back open.

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Nothing, nothing's more frustrating than, uh,

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going down the roadway and suddenly, oh, well no,

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everything's gotta go down to one lane

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because there's a crash here.

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So the quicker we can get that opened up and,

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and moving the better off, I think we all are.

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I have a question for you. Not related to traffic,

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just from my own curiosity.

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I've been doing this now for 18 years,

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serving as a supervisor.

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Uh, times are changing, obviously, uh,

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things get a little more heated,

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people get a little more angry.

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Uh, and one of the things that does happen,

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and I've had it happen myself,

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I don't know about the others, but

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I've had death threats already.

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I've had emails that have come that have been threatening.

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Uh, the last time I followed up on that was with, uh,

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captain Seamers.

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Still Captain, right? Yes, sir. Okay.

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Uh, and he had said at that point that any threats

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that are made to an elected official are, is a felony,

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and they could be punishable by three years imprisonment.

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Do you know about that? Is that true?

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We would, we would always encourage you

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that if you encounter, uh, whether a statement is,

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even if you believe a statement made be benign,

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it's always worth, uh, making the Sheriff's office aware

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so we can look into it, uh, evaluate what that comment or,

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or situation is.

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And also, it's great just to have documentation.

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It's good to know that, uh, uh, it's written down somewhere

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that if, if an instance occurs now you, we can show a, uh,

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pattern of behavior or, or repeated instances.

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We would always encourage, uh, the board as well as, um,

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any members of the public, if, if they receive messages

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that they believe are a threatening nature

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to contact the sheriff's office so we can look,

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look further into it and evaluate those.

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Okay. Great question. Thank you.

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It's a shame it happens, but we are in an environment

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that's quite different than it was 15

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years ago, 20 years ago.

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Okay. Thank you for that. Any other

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questions for law enforcement?

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Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you, gentlemen.

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Much appreciated. New business.

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Uh, everyone has received a copy

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of the minutes from our last meeting.

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I assume we've had time to read it

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for the audience's benefit.

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If you see us moving quickly, it's not

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that we don't read these things here,

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we get them about a week in advance so we have time to read,

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study, and be prepared for our meeting.

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So in reviewing the minutes, anything that you wish

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to change, modify, amend.

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Okay. Could I have a motion to accept the minutes?

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So moved. Second.

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Second. It's been moved

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and seconded, except the minutes from our prior meeting.

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All those in favor signify by saying aye a. Aye. Opposed?

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So moved. Thank you.

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Next and not the least, Mr.

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Lesi, you attended our recent PAC meeting.

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Uh, can you give a brief report on that, please? Sure.

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I'll make it brief. Yeah.

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There were a couple items on the consent agenda.

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There was one for, uh, approval of landscape

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and irrigation maintenance with SPA landscape

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for the new areas for six, uh, for six month period

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for an increase of $13,111 and 62 cents.

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And that would be forwarded to the S-L-C-D-D.

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Uh, there was a second one

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for sole source designation

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for USGA green section services for, uh,

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the provision of ed golf golf course consulting services

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that will also be presented through the F-L-C-D-E board.

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And thirdly, there was a recommendation, again

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to present it to the board. Could

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You talk to Mike directly? Sorry to hear you.

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Excuse me. Talking to Mike

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Directly. I'm not going into the

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mic. No.

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Uh, third one, executive cost, uh,

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aggregate golf cart products for bulk aggregate golf on an

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as needed basis for an amount not to exceed 500,000.

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And all three are going to be presented to the, uh,

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F-L-C-D-D.

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And lastly, uh,

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yours truly have made a request to the other districts

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for the, uh, approval of RPMs,

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or better known as raised pavement markets on

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multimodal paths.

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We wanted to have some consistency throughout all

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of the villages and see if they were interested in pa in,

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in, in having it approved throughout the villages.

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Uh, there were some districts that were in favor

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and there were obviously some districts

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that were not in favor of it.

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And it was agreed that we would take it back

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to our respective districts, each of us,

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and bring it up for, uh, for approval at each district.

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And that's kind of how that ending.

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Correct. That concludes my remarks.

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Okay. Just for the audience benefit,

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the reflective pavement markers,

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it's been going on for a while.

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Uh, information was sent, I sent it personally

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to the chairman of each

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of the respective districts requesting

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that they discuss it with their boards.

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Uh, and at that time, we would come together at the PAC

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meeting and make a decision one way

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or the other if they're in favor.

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There are nine districts

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that are involved in this five through 13.

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In order to get it passed

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and get it paid out of project wide advisory funds

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through the Sumter Landing Development, uh, district,

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we needed to have five out of nine votes in favor.

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Uh, during that meeting, I believe, well,

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district five made the motion, so obviously

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we're greatly in favor of it.

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Uh, district six believe, uh, uh, tweet Coleman said

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that they were in favor and District

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12 was definitely in favor.

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All of their board voted for it, but that was three.

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We could not get the other two votes.

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Uh, I'm not gonna go into great detail,

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but I think some probably didn't have sufficient time

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or get the information or read it.

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Uh, 'cause a lot of the questions

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that came out were questions that were already addressed

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and answered in writing to them.

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Uh, we did our best shot to try and get 'em to go along,

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but in the end, uh,

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they would not make a decision one way or the other.

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But it was requested that a study,

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an engineering study be done.

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Who's our engineers again, that we always go

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to. Do you recall

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The previous report was Kimley Horn.

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Kimley Horn. Yeah. I'm, I'm not certain, I'd have to defer

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to Mr. Harris, which, which firm will use for this study.

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But anyway, rather than voting on it,

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making a decision at this meeting, it was decided

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to commission an engineering study, uh,

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regarding the reflective pavement markers,

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the effectiveness and so forth.

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Uh, personal opinion, not the opinion of this board.

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I think it's 3000 to $5,000.

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That's of no great value as far as I'm concerned.

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It's kinda like throwing money down a rat hole.

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Bottom line is, it would be like commissioning to say,

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can you see better during the daytime than you can at night?

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And would reflect a marker

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after you see a little better at night.

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I don't need an engine engine engineering

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study to tell me that.

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Yeah, you could see a lot better

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with reflective markers at night

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and you could probably protect a lot of our residents,

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which is the main objective of this board is

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to represent our residents in District five.

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Uh, likewise their health

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and safety is a matter of always foremost concern, uh,

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by the board of Supervisors.

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So that's kind of how it went.

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Uh, and that pretty much ended the meeting.

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Am I correct, Jerry? You wanna add

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To that? Yeah.

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In fact, not only is it the pavement marker help you

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see where, where it's really dark.

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There's so many gob cuts now with such bright headlights

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that you can't look straight ahead.

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You gotta, you gotta look away.

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And that's where the pavement markers will really help also,

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because if, when you look away,

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you can look down at the pavement marker

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so you don't go crashing into the dirt.

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Right? So it, it's a really, a very, very, uh,

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important measure to have more safety on

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those golf cart pants.

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I would agree. I know there's been

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comments about striping.

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I saw something in the paper recently on that,

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I believe a letter to the editor.

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Uh, when I saw that I went back,

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'cause I've been here a long time,

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and I pulled files from 2015 July when people were lined up

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and protesting striping and so on and so forth.

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Uh, at that time we had 45 miles in golf cart

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paths we were talking about.

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And the cost back then in 2015 was over $300,000.

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I would venture a guess today

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that we're probably talking twice, if not triple that to do

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reflective striping down the sidelines

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or down the middle of the cart cart paths.

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We also have twice that now as far as cart paths.

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It's not 45, it's over 80,000, I'm sorry, 80,000,

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80 miles in golf cart paths.

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So doing reflective markers for district five,

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which is our concern would be a cost somewhere between 12

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to $13,000.

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It's a minuscule amount to provide an extra level of safety.

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And if anybody has any questions, uh,

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this will come up again under, um,

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further business.

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Uh, and at that time we'll discuss a motion so

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that this district can move forward.

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But we'll answer any questions if the audience has at this

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point, if they want to make any comments.

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Uh, Mr. Chairman, I have a Yes, sir.

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It's my understanding based upon what was just said here,

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that, uh, project wide has,

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is commissioning kimley horn to, uh, do a review

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of the previous engineering study and to make any updates.

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Mm-hmm. Uh, referring to things like the, uh,

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manual uniform traffic control devices that governs all

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of these markings be on mm-hmm.

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Roads and multimodal paths.

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Um, it's not a complete study though.

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It's just a, it's a review of the existing study

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and an update based upon any current changes

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that have been made between the time

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of the original study and now Yeah.

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We did install 'em

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previously. I know. Went through that. All

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Right. And so, uh,

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it's my suggestion that we wait for that study.

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Well, um, one

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of the reasons professional engineers look at this and,

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and they make recommendations based upon ordinances

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and codes and, uh, national laws and requirements.

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It, it, it benefits us as, as a district

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because we're, we're then relying on

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fact and law.

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And so there's a,

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there's a certain protection in our decision making process.

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Mm-hmm. And, and I suspect

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that this update isn't gonna take all that long.

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And since we've been going on this for a few years,

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another month or two, I think would be prudent on our part

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to wait for that study to, to come out.

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We can look at it and then make

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any decisions we've gotta make.

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Because if the study comes out

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and suggests that it should be done,

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there may be a change in the PA position in which,

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in which case they would then take it.

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And if they get the five votes or more mm-hmm.

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Then they would do the whole thing.

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I understand that. So, Okay.

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The, the only question I would have is, we did a study,

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if you recall before, and I know Jerry, you

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and I were actively involved in that.

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Mm-hmm. Uh, when we put the markers down on the islands

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and the sharp curves and so forth.

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Yep. I would assume,

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and if I'm wrong, tell me

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that putting reflective markers down the middle at this

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point would not be any different as far as regulations

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and allowances and so forth than we did before.

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So it, to me, it kind of looked like a repeat

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of what we've already gone through.

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It, it may be, I don't know, I, I'm not up

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to date on the m ut CDs.

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Um, but uh, they are and Right.

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And I just think anytime

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that you get a professional engineering report put in place,

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that that says what it says, you've got a certain level

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of protection that that

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strengthens your decision making process.

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We're not gonna vote on it until we get that report. Yeah.

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At the pwac level, no. And here as well. Oh, okay.

489
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I misunderstood. I thought we were gonna vote on it today.

490
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Well, it's gonna come up today asking the board

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what they want to do, if they want to proceed.

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And I was gonna make that motion has come up. Okay.

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I didn't realize that. Asking the board if they

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wanna wait for the study.

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And, and again, I don't put that much emphasis on the study.

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Uh, from what I saw, it was, it's a good reason

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to allow people to make a decision.

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'cause now they've got an engineering

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report they can fall back on.

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Uh, as far as we're concerned, I would like to think

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that our board is definitely in favor

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and I think we are in providing this extra level

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of protection regardless of what the report says.

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So to wait another two or three months to do that.

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And if I'm wrong, vote me down.

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But I, you know, I would just

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as soon proceed and get it done.

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We did talk in the letter we sent out about a pilot program

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and the District five would serve as that pilot program.

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I think from that standpoint,

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it might be a good thing to do.

512
00:21:01.965 --> 00:21:04.365
'cause once we do it, and it's in, I can assure you,

513
00:21:04.375 --> 00:21:06.525
we're gonna get feedback from our residents whether

514
00:21:06.525 --> 00:21:07.645
they like it or they don't.

515
00:21:08.145 --> 00:21:09.805
And I can tell you, just as a result

516
00:21:09.805 --> 00:21:12.525
of the last week's meeting, I've had over 100 emails

517
00:21:12.665 --> 00:21:14.285
and phone calls from people

518
00:21:14.345 --> 00:21:16.165
who have said, this is wonderful.

519
00:21:16.275 --> 00:21:19.245
Finally, we have disenfranchised so many

520
00:21:19.425 --> 00:21:22.645
of our elderly residents from a join the same privilege

521
00:21:22.645 --> 00:21:24.485
as we do, and going down to the squares

522
00:21:24.655 --> 00:21:25.725
where they've written back

523
00:21:25.725 --> 00:21:28.165
and said, I can drive there during daylight hours,

524
00:21:28.625 --> 00:21:29.925
but I can't go 'cause I have

525
00:21:29.925 --> 00:21:31.085
to drive home when it's at night

526
00:21:31.345 --> 00:21:32.965
and I have macular degeneration,

527
00:21:33.025 --> 00:21:35.085
or my eyesight isn't what it used to be.

528
00:21:35.545 --> 00:21:38.365
Now, I've also had the assorted number of nutcases right in

529
00:21:38.365 --> 00:21:40.445
and say, well, too bad if you're that old stay home.

530
00:21:40.445 --> 00:21:41.565
You shouldn't go to the square.

531
00:21:42.165 --> 00:21:44.205
I mean, just ridiculous responses coming out.

532
00:21:44.225 --> 00:21:45.325
And we've all seen that.

533
00:21:45.945 --> 00:21:50.405
But I think in this case, for the sake of $12,000 to wait

534
00:21:50.425 --> 00:21:52.645
for a study and wait another three months to do

535
00:21:52.645 --> 00:21:53.885
what we know is the right thing

536
00:21:53.885 --> 00:21:56.165
to do, I don't agree with that.

537
00:21:56.285 --> 00:21:58.085
I think we should move forward with it. I'll

538
00:21:58.085 --> 00:22:01.725
Make a motion to instill RPMs or reflective payment.

539
00:22:01.835 --> 00:22:06.285
Mark is, uh, center line throughout, uh, uh, district five.

540
00:22:06.665 --> 00:22:09.525
And again, we're talking a cost between 12 to 13,000.

541
00:22:10.265 --> 00:22:12.965
We have a budget that's in the hundreds of millions,

542
00:22:12.965 --> 00:22:15.845
so I don't see that as any obstacle.

543
00:22:16.075 --> 00:22:18.725
Okay. So you have a motion on the floor to do that? Yes.

544
00:22:18.865 --> 00:22:21.645
Is there a second to that motion? I second that, Mr.

545
00:22:21.885 --> 00:22:23.205
Chairman. Okay. It's been moved

546
00:22:23.205 --> 00:22:26.085
and seconded to proceed with pavement markers, uh,

547
00:22:26.145 --> 00:22:28.725
and serve as a prior study.

548
00:22:28.985 --> 00:22:31.405
And Okay.

549
00:22:31.425 --> 00:22:33.485
We have an audience comment on, on this before we vote.

550
00:22:34.305 --> 00:22:35.965
Yes, sir. Please come up.

551
00:22:36.115 --> 00:22:39.005
Give us your name and your address please.

552
00:22:44.795 --> 00:22:45.995
I need to touch it to find it.

553
00:22:47.045 --> 00:22:49.715
Where is it? It's right in front of you. There you go.

554
00:22:49.815 --> 00:22:52.315
I'm sorry. Okay. Thank you, chairman Cato.

555
00:22:52.315 --> 00:22:53.675
Uh, my name is John Cornel.

556
00:22:54.315 --> 00:22:58.235
I live at 2385 D Drive in the village of Antrim Dells.

557
00:22:58.235 --> 00:22:59.595
And no, that's not in your district,

558
00:23:00.335 --> 00:23:03.635
but this issue does affect all of us in the villages,

559
00:23:03.635 --> 00:23:05.435
and I appreciate the opportunity to speak

560
00:23:05.435 --> 00:23:06.795
for just a couple minutes on this.

561
00:23:07.535 --> 00:23:11.675
Um, I, I, I guess I'm stunned to hear

562
00:23:11.985 --> 00:23:14.635
what I just heard this morning that this is a cost of 12

563
00:23:14.655 --> 00:23:19.595
to $13,000 and that there's any debate whatsoever about it.

564
00:23:20.355 --> 00:23:23.395
I spoke to one of my commissioners yesterday about this

565
00:23:23.415 --> 00:23:26.035
to learn where our district sits on this position.

566
00:23:26.895 --> 00:23:29.515
And it was confirmed what Chairman Cato said

567
00:23:29.515 --> 00:23:30.955
that they're not in favor of it yet.

568
00:23:31.145 --> 00:23:34.715
Some of the thing reasons I heard were, um, didn't like the,

569
00:23:34.775 --> 00:23:37.275
uh, it wouldn't be attractive enough if

570
00:23:37.275 --> 00:23:38.995
each district didn't have it.

571
00:23:39.695 --> 00:23:43.115
And it was all I could do to restrain myself from not saying

572
00:23:43.115 --> 00:23:45.645
what I really thought about attractiveness when it comes

573
00:23:45.645 --> 00:23:46.645
to a safety issue.

574
00:23:47.225 --> 00:23:49.485
And then he said, it's a very expensive project.

575
00:23:50.225 --> 00:23:52.765
And I said, well, how expensive the answer was, well,

576
00:23:52.765 --> 00:23:53.845
we're not really sure yet.

577
00:23:54.185 --> 00:23:56.325
Now I want to hear 12 or $13,000.

578
00:23:57.115 --> 00:23:58.925
It's, it borders on ridiculousness

579
00:23:58.925 --> 00:24:00.405
that this is even an issue.

580
00:24:00.865 --> 00:24:02.325
I'm not a big acronym guy,

581
00:24:03.025 --> 00:24:06.765
but PA if they don't see the value in this,

582
00:24:07.155 --> 00:24:10.005
then something needs to be done about it.

583
00:24:10.385 --> 00:24:12.085
And I'm willing to do whatever I can

584
00:24:12.105 --> 00:24:13.565
to voice my opinion on this.

585
00:24:13.685 --> 00:24:16.605
I I'm a blind guy, why am I talking about driving?

586
00:24:16.995 --> 00:24:18.085
Well, I don't drive anymore.

587
00:24:18.085 --> 00:24:22.925
Thankfully, I did until my 40th birthday 25 years ago.

588
00:24:23.125 --> 00:24:25.485
I drove in the Chicago suburban area a lot

589
00:24:25.875 --> 00:24:27.045
with compromised vision.

590
00:24:27.725 --> 00:24:30.325
I had a career with the foundation fighting blindness,

591
00:24:30.325 --> 00:24:33.605
which raises money for medical research to cure blindness,

592
00:24:33.605 --> 00:24:35.125
including macular degeneration.

593
00:24:35.605 --> 00:24:37.725
I know a little bit about the aging population,

594
00:24:38.005 --> 00:24:40.725
I know a little bit about the vision loss community.

595
00:24:41.665 --> 00:24:46.205
And we have in this country over 10 million people

596
00:24:46.715 --> 00:24:48.685
with age-related macular degeneration,

597
00:24:48.685 --> 00:24:49.805
which is the leading cause

598
00:24:49.905 --> 00:24:52.325
of vision loss in people over age 55.

599
00:24:53.035 --> 00:24:54.565
Last time I heard this was a 55

600
00:24:54.565 --> 00:24:57.165
and over community that touts itself

601
00:24:57.945 --> 00:25:02.365
as the country's most active and friendly 55

602
00:25:02.385 --> 00:25:04.645
and over community and living here three years.

603
00:25:04.925 --> 00:25:06.005
I totally agree with that.

604
00:25:06.505 --> 00:25:09.605
Why don't we add to it the safest 55

605
00:25:09.625 --> 00:25:11.445
and over community in the country.

606
00:25:12.065 --> 00:25:14.725
We don't need a study to tell us

607
00:25:14.795 --> 00:25:17.765
that you see better at night with lights.

608
00:25:19.075 --> 00:25:20.805
It's ridiculous. You guys know

609
00:25:20.805 --> 00:25:24.125
that I appreciate more than you know, the desire

610
00:25:24.185 --> 00:25:27.485
to protect yourself from legal liability and criticism.

611
00:25:28.185 --> 00:25:31.845
But I'm not gonna get political common sense.

612
00:25:32.505 --> 00:25:34.165
You know, this intuitively

613
00:25:34.275 --> 00:25:36.245
that this is the right thing to do.

614
00:25:36.745 --> 00:25:41.325
The villages has promoted itself as a golf cart friendly.

615
00:25:41.645 --> 00:25:44.245
CI heard that you want gimme 30 more seconds.

616
00:25:44.765 --> 00:25:46.805
A golf cart friendly community.

617
00:25:47.505 --> 00:25:50.725
It is the major mode of transportation in this community.

618
00:25:50.825 --> 00:25:52.925
The villages does a ton of things, right,

619
00:25:53.465 --> 00:25:56.645
but when it made the decision to combine golf carts,

620
00:25:57.155 --> 00:26:01.525
pedestrians, and bicyclists on one path, that was horrific

621
00:26:02.165 --> 00:26:03.645
decision from a safety standpoint.

622
00:26:04.075 --> 00:26:05.925
It's a heavy lift to get that changed.

623
00:26:06.425 --> 00:26:09.725
But you can do little things, baby steps to make it better.

624
00:26:10.025 --> 00:26:12.245
And these reflectors are a no-brainer.

625
00:26:12.605 --> 00:26:17.285
I urge you to take action to vote yes on this today.

626
00:26:17.965 --> 00:26:20.565
I vote I encourage you to do it unanimously

627
00:26:20.665 --> 00:26:23.725
to send a message to the rest of the district, uh,

628
00:26:23.725 --> 00:26:26.285
commissioners that this is the right thing to do,

629
00:26:26.785 --> 00:26:29.405
the primary duty of government.

630
00:26:29.545 --> 00:26:33.205
And that's what you are as underappreciated and underpaid

631
00:26:33.205 --> 00:26:35.365
and undervalued as you are, is

632
00:26:35.365 --> 00:26:37.285
to protect the safety of your residents.

633
00:26:37.775 --> 00:26:39.285
Thank you for your time. Thank you. John.

634
00:26:39.285 --> 00:26:40.565
If I may you raise the question,

635
00:26:40.585 --> 00:26:42.605
the cost Your district 10, I believe, correct?

636
00:26:43.025 --> 00:26:44.085
That's correct. Okay.

637
00:26:44.245 --> 00:26:48.005
I think you represent Steve Bova. He's a good man. Um, I

638
00:26:48.005 --> 00:26:49.845
Didn't give any names, but in particular No, that's okay.

639
00:26:49.845 --> 00:26:50.845
They're all good people, Steve. Well,

640
00:26:50.845 --> 00:26:51.805
and he's an honorable man.

641
00:26:51.805 --> 00:26:53.405
Unfortunately, you couldn't be there at the meeting.

642
00:26:53.465 --> 00:26:55.245
So you weren't represented at the Pwac

643
00:26:55.245 --> 00:26:56.445
meeting when we discussed this.

644
00:26:56.795 --> 00:26:59.165
Your cost involved on that was some right

645
00:26:59.165 --> 00:27:01.325
around $23,200 for your

646
00:27:01.525 --> 00:27:02.525
District. Okay. Let's not heat

647
00:27:02.525 --> 00:27:04.325
the pools to 84 degrees.

648
00:27:04.935 --> 00:27:07.325
Let's, uh, there's so many other ways that you can go

649
00:27:07.325 --> 00:27:09.485
through and find $23,000.

650
00:27:09.665 --> 00:27:11.925
You guys know that? Of course. Okay. Thank you

651
00:27:11.925 --> 00:27:12.925
So much. Thank you very

652
00:27:12.925 --> 00:27:15.285
much. Gentlemen.

653
00:27:15.285 --> 00:27:17.965
We have a motion on the floor to approve, uh,

654
00:27:17.965 --> 00:27:19.605
that we install these things as quickly

655
00:27:19.865 --> 00:27:22.365
as we possibly can within reasonable timeframe.

656
00:27:22.945 --> 00:27:27.005
Um, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye.

657
00:27:27.185 --> 00:27:29.605
Aye. Those opposed? Aye. Okay.

658
00:27:29.865 --> 00:27:32.765
Uh, and my opposition is, I would like to wait

659
00:27:33.225 --> 00:27:34.965
for PA to make their decision.

660
00:27:35.555 --> 00:27:39.765
Okay. Thank you. It is best. We have three in favor.

661
00:27:39.985 --> 00:27:44.405
One opposed? I ask chairman. Sure. Just for clarification.

662
00:27:44.905 --> 00:27:49.525
Uh, after the study, did this go back to PA? Yeah.

663
00:27:50.585 --> 00:27:53.565
And then the process will start over again.

664
00:27:53.945 --> 00:27:57.485
But in the meantime, we've already approved, uh,

665
00:27:57.825 --> 00:28:00.685
for District five to proceed regardless of whether

666
00:28:00.685 --> 00:28:02.525
or not it's PA approved it.

667
00:28:02.715 --> 00:28:04.485
Correct. Very good. Yeah.

668
00:28:04.505 --> 00:28:06.365
The, the main difference, just so we're clear,

669
00:28:06.425 --> 00:28:08.565
is I don't want to have any illusions about this.

670
00:28:09.225 --> 00:28:10.405
Uh, going to PA

671
00:28:10.425 --> 00:28:13.325
and getting approval from PA, they then can take it forward

672
00:28:14.025 --> 00:28:16.685
to the Sumter Landing Development District

673
00:28:17.305 --> 00:28:19.285
and that would be paid out of their funds.

674
00:28:19.435 --> 00:28:22.445
However we supply those funds to them. Yes. Yeah.

675
00:28:22.545 --> 00:28:24.165
So it's our money no matter what.

676
00:28:24.165 --> 00:28:25.565
And that was clear in the last meeting,

677
00:28:25.835 --> 00:28:28.685
whether we take it out of what we contributed previously

678
00:28:28.945 --> 00:28:32.325
or whether we take it and budget for it this year, again,

679
00:28:32.335 --> 00:28:33.965
we're talking $12,000.

680
00:28:34.955 --> 00:28:36.885
What value is safety? Mm-hmm. Okay.

681
00:28:37.185 --> 00:28:39.365
$12,000 as far as I'm concerned.

682
00:28:39.875 --> 00:28:42.525
Well, I pay that myself just to make sure we got it done.

683
00:28:42.765 --> 00:28:44.565
I really would. I think it's that important.

684
00:28:44.945 --> 00:28:47.925
No, I, I concur, Mr. Chairman, I just want to clarification.

685
00:28:48.145 --> 00:28:50.805
It does go back to PA in the meantime.

686
00:28:50.945 --> 00:28:53.165
It, as far as I'm concerned, it's moot

687
00:28:53.165 --> 00:28:54.605
because we have approved it.

688
00:28:54.745 --> 00:28:56.605
Yes, we have. Okay.

689
00:28:57.755 --> 00:29:00.725
Yeah, the reason bringing it to PA was we were hoping

690
00:29:00.945 --> 00:29:03.325
for uniformity throughout all of these districts.

691
00:29:03.925 --> 00:29:05.485
I, I'd like to think no matter what,

692
00:29:05.795 --> 00:29:07.845
that we probably would've uniformity anyway.

693
00:29:07.905 --> 00:29:11.325
And using reflective markers to do striping at this point,

694
00:29:11.385 --> 00:29:13.805
as I mentioned, would be a ridiculous amount of money.

695
00:29:14.305 --> 00:29:16.005
Uh, very, very expensive. Yeah.

696
00:29:16.145 --> 00:29:20.045
If it was 300,000 back in 2015, I guess we'd be close

697
00:29:20.045 --> 00:29:22.885
to 800,000 by now with the cost going up and so forth.

698
00:29:23.385 --> 00:29:26.365
And again, it Alright. Cliff

699
00:29:32.755 --> 00:29:34.005
Plus I think striping does,

700
00:29:34.015 --> 00:29:36.205
makes it look like a freeway or a Disney ride.

701
00:29:38.975 --> 00:29:42.405
Cliff Weiner, I live in d on in the village of Piedmont.

702
00:29:42.865 --> 00:29:45.245
Uh, I am the chairman of multi

703
00:29:45.855 --> 00:29:47.445
multimodal Path Discussion group

704
00:29:47.445 --> 00:29:52.245
and the chairman of District four, Gary, that, that 2015

705
00:29:53.375 --> 00:29:57.405
study was really, really high when District four,

706
00:29:57.625 --> 00:30:00.445
who has striping, striped our path.

707
00:30:00.905 --> 00:30:03.805
And we just redid it, I believe two years ago,

708
00:30:03.965 --> 00:30:04.965
I believe maybe three.

709
00:30:05.425 --> 00:30:07.165
It was 20 some hundred dollars.

710
00:30:08.405 --> 00:30:12.005
I don't know where that $300,000 mark came from in

711
00:30:12.005 --> 00:30:14.085
that study, but I disagreed

712
00:30:14.085 --> 00:30:15.885
with it since the study came out.

713
00:30:16.195 --> 00:30:18.085
Yeah, it came out July, 2015.

714
00:30:18.085 --> 00:30:22.245
But I'll tell you that the Multi Motor Path discussion group

715
00:30:22.345 --> 00:30:25.925
is not in favor of striping or I am not at any rate.

716
00:30:26.345 --> 00:30:28.445
And when our contract,

717
00:30:28.985 --> 00:30:31.085
or we need to retrip in District four,

718
00:30:31.085 --> 00:30:32.325
and I brought it up in meetings

719
00:30:32.325 --> 00:30:35.965
before, we are gonna look at putting in our PMs.

720
00:30:36.065 --> 00:30:40.045
We do have RPMs on part of our path that goes from

721
00:30:40.855 --> 00:30:44.005
first responders to solely our villas

722
00:30:44.455 --> 00:30:47.125
where there isn't a light within 500 feet.

723
00:30:47.145 --> 00:30:48.725
So it's pitch dark. Mm-hmm.

724
00:30:48.865 --> 00:30:51.885
And these RPMs make all the difference in the world

725
00:30:51.995 --> 00:30:53.445
driving on that path.

726
00:30:54.065 --> 00:30:55.885
And if you wanna see it, drive it

727
00:30:55.885 --> 00:30:57.245
after nine o'clock at night

728
00:30:57.545 --> 00:30:59.525
and you'll see how you can drive on a path

729
00:30:59.635 --> 00:31:01.165
with no light whatsoever.

730
00:31:02.085 --> 00:31:05.085
I just want to say that thank you guys for what you're doing

731
00:31:05.085 --> 00:31:07.365
because that's the first step in a project

732
00:31:07.435 --> 00:31:09.325
that I've been trying to do for the last four years.

733
00:31:09.895 --> 00:31:13.005
Thank you. You might get a kick outta this.

734
00:31:13.105 --> 00:31:17.005
I'm quoting from an article I believe meta put out on July

735
00:31:17.105 --> 00:31:18.365
of 2015.

736
00:31:18.745 --> 00:31:20.765
And it says, once villagers learned that

737
00:31:20.765 --> 00:31:23.285
and they believed that it was $300,000 decision

738
00:31:23.745 --> 00:31:25.725
to put down thermoplastic striping,

739
00:31:25.725 --> 00:31:28.645
which is a highly reflective, um, on both sides

740
00:31:28.645 --> 00:31:29.845
of the multimodal pads.

741
00:31:30.195 --> 00:31:32.205
Supervisors were inundated with the wrath

742
00:31:32.285 --> 00:31:35.845
of the silent majority, which found its voice thanks

743
00:31:35.905 --> 00:31:38.725
to the sticker shock and people lined up.

744
00:31:38.985 --> 00:31:41.765
In fact, the representative Steve Bova from 10 is standing

745
00:31:41.765 --> 00:31:44.045
in line as is Paul Farone, several others.

746
00:31:44.625 --> 00:31:46.445
Uh, and these are some very well known people

747
00:31:46.445 --> 00:31:47.645
and very smart individuals.

748
00:31:48.105 --> 00:31:49.405
So that's kind of where I got that from.

749
00:31:49.525 --> 00:31:52.525
I didn't pull that outta the air. Okay.

750
00:31:52.665 --> 00:31:54.725
We are done with that. Moving on, uh,

751
00:31:54.865 --> 00:31:57.205
we are into old business status report.

752
00:31:57.665 --> 00:31:58.925
Yes. Good morning board. Morning.

753
00:31:58.925 --> 00:32:00.725
Um, there's two items on old business.

754
00:32:00.825 --> 00:32:02.605
The first is to track your deed compliance

755
00:32:02.605 --> 00:32:03.925
complaints for a one year period.

756
00:32:04.385 --> 00:32:06.125
So we will bring that back in November.

757
00:32:06.785 --> 00:32:10.445
Um, just as information though, staff did put together the,

758
00:32:10.665 --> 00:32:13.405
um, mid-year stats that are included

759
00:32:13.425 --> 00:32:15.565
for informational purposes on the agenda.

760
00:32:16.465 --> 00:32:19.165
Um, the next item which has been addressed was the

761
00:32:19.365 --> 00:32:21.765
consideration to install center line reflective,

762
00:32:21.825 --> 00:32:23.325
um, pavement markers.

763
00:32:23.865 --> 00:32:26.245
Um, but given the direction from the board, um,

764
00:32:26.255 --> 00:32:28.845
staff will proceed with issuing a purchase order

765
00:32:28.865 --> 00:32:30.445
to the vendor to get that initiated.

766
00:32:30.775 --> 00:32:34.725
Thank you. Any questions? Okay.

767
00:32:38.355 --> 00:32:40.805
Well, obviously four B is already taken care of.

768
00:32:40.815 --> 00:32:42.565
We've had a motion passed to that effect.

769
00:32:43.265 --> 00:32:46.005
Uh, the following items in item five A

770
00:32:46.005 --> 00:32:48.125
through E are informational items only.

771
00:32:48.625 --> 00:32:49.965
We have provided, we've been

772
00:32:50.205 --> 00:32:52.045
provided as individual supervisors with

773
00:32:52.045 --> 00:32:53.205
that information to review.

774
00:32:53.745 --> 00:32:56.605
Uh, this does not this require a motion for all of them

775
00:32:56.625 --> 00:32:57.805
to be passed or no,

776
00:32:58.145 --> 00:32:59.145
No motion necessary. No

777
00:32:59.145 --> 00:33:00.885
motion necessary. Everybody

778
00:33:00.885 --> 00:33:02.045
had a chance to read those items.

779
00:33:02.305 --> 00:33:03.685
Any questions regarding those?

780
00:33:05.155 --> 00:33:08.365
Okay, hearing none, uh, quick meeting, uh,

781
00:33:08.725 --> 00:33:09.725
district manager's report.

782
00:33:10.385 --> 00:33:13.405
Yes. The first item is the 2024 annual report.

783
00:33:13.905 --> 00:33:17.565
Um, so staff did email that out to all supervisors.

784
00:33:18.065 --> 00:33:20.725
Um, we hope you've had an opportunity to take a look at it.

785
00:33:21.025 --> 00:33:23.285
Um, it highlights the activities of all

786
00:33:23.285 --> 00:33:24.765
of the individual boards

787
00:33:24.765 --> 00:33:26.525
and all of the departments in the district.

788
00:33:26.985 --> 00:33:29.245
Um, and everything that we've accomplished with the,

789
00:33:29.265 --> 00:33:32.685
the support of all of the boards, um, we will get

790
00:33:32.685 --> 00:33:34.565
that published hard copy.

791
00:33:35.065 --> 00:33:37.965
Um, we just wanted to ensure that there were no last minute,

792
00:33:38.545 --> 00:33:42.125
um, edit or catches once we distributed to the larger group.

793
00:33:42.505 --> 00:33:44.365
Um, but we'll be getting the hard copies printed.

794
00:33:45.175 --> 00:33:47.205
We've had this for a while. Uh, I know mm-hmm.

795
00:33:47.505 --> 00:33:48.485
I'm quite sure you've all read

796
00:33:48.485 --> 00:33:49.445
the whole thing all the way through.

797
00:33:49.665 --> 00:33:51.125
Uh, it's an outstanding report.

798
00:33:51.585 --> 00:33:53.605
We should really be proud of what we're doing here.

799
00:33:53.785 --> 00:33:56.205
And your staff, uh, to put this together

800
00:33:56.865 --> 00:33:58.725
really deserves kudos for doing that

801
00:33:58.725 --> 00:34:00.405
because it's very, very well done.

802
00:34:00.535 --> 00:34:02.685
Thank you. And it's available to all our residents, correct?

803
00:34:03.745 --> 00:34:05.925
Yes, online. It's available on the website, yes.

804
00:34:06.135 --> 00:34:07.485
Thank you. I'll relay that.

805
00:34:07.545 --> 00:34:08.965
It was, um, there was significant

806
00:34:08.965 --> 00:34:10.205
input from all departments.

807
00:34:12.175 --> 00:34:13.685
Thank seem to be working very,

808
00:34:13.685 --> 00:34:14.885
very well with all departments.

809
00:34:14.985 --> 00:34:17.445
And I know our, our directors now they're heading up.

810
00:34:17.445 --> 00:34:19.085
These departments are putting a lot of time

811
00:34:19.085 --> 00:34:21.445
and a lot of effort in to make sure we do things right.

812
00:34:21.545 --> 00:34:23.725
So thank you to all of you sitting at the

813
00:34:23.725 --> 00:34:24.885
table. Appreciate it.

814
00:34:25.335 --> 00:34:30.205
Thank you. And the next item is the CCO update. Mm-hmm.

815
00:34:30.345 --> 00:34:34.405
So on Wednesday we did email out, um, the update

816
00:34:34.405 --> 00:34:35.445
with two attachments,

817
00:34:35.545 --> 00:34:38.965
or excuse me, the attachment that we received from cco, um,

818
00:34:39.355 --> 00:34:42.565
regarding your increase

819
00:34:42.865 --> 00:34:45.565
for this coming October 1st, 2025.

820
00:34:46.025 --> 00:34:49.605
So if you recall when you received the notices, um,

821
00:34:49.965 --> 00:34:53.165
previously that had the estimated pole rental increases

822
00:34:53.675 --> 00:34:56.165
that did not include your electricity expenses,

823
00:34:56.385 --> 00:34:59.085
it was strictly just the, the pole rental fee.

824
00:34:59.375 --> 00:35:01.925
Right. Um, the letter that was sent to you

825
00:35:02.525 --> 00:35:07.205
includes a combined total of the pole rental fee as well

826
00:35:07.305 --> 00:35:08.765
as your electricity expenses.

827
00:35:09.425 --> 00:35:11.925
So if you try and compare the numbers, they're not going

828
00:35:11.925 --> 00:35:13.925
to tie together Exactly.

829
00:35:15.105 --> 00:35:18.725
Um, but that reflects what your actual expenses will be.

830
00:35:18.875 --> 00:35:20.965
Beginning October 1st, 2025.

831
00:35:21.565 --> 00:35:23.685
Considering that you were only paying 50%

832
00:35:23.685 --> 00:35:24.845
of your increase this year

833
00:35:25.025 --> 00:35:26.045
and it was projected

834
00:35:26.105 --> 00:35:28.725
to pay the second portion this coming year.

835
00:35:29.585 --> 00:35:31.645
Um, there were a few items, um,

836
00:35:31.645 --> 00:35:33.205
that were previously communicated

837
00:35:33.205 --> 00:35:36.165
that CECO took into consideration to adjust those rates.

838
00:35:36.785 --> 00:35:40.925
Um, excuse me, which resulted in overall reduction

839
00:35:41.025 --> 00:35:43.765
to all districts from the original proposed amount.

840
00:35:44.305 --> 00:35:46.765
Um, but they were adjusting their, um,

841
00:35:47.465 --> 00:35:51.365
repair times from 24 hours to seven to 30 days,

842
00:35:51.365 --> 00:35:53.365
which they indicated was industry standard.

843
00:35:54.145 --> 00:35:57.365
Um, they were adjusting their light rovers

844
00:35:57.365 --> 00:35:59.325
that were out in the community, um,

845
00:35:59.555 --> 00:36:02.165
that they would rely on community watch.

846
00:36:02.185 --> 00:36:04.565
You do have the benefit of community watch submitting a lot

847
00:36:04.565 --> 00:36:06.125
of light outages in the community

848
00:36:06.185 --> 00:36:09.045
and then residents can submit them online as well.

849
00:36:10.105 --> 00:36:13.885
Um, and also how they replace their poles, um, more on an

850
00:36:13.965 --> 00:36:17.725
as needed basis rather than looking at a, you know,

851
00:36:18.565 --> 00:36:21.645
a mass turnover of pole replacement.

852
00:36:22.105 --> 00:36:25.325
Um, so all that being said, the document that you have is

853
00:36:25.355 --> 00:36:27.925
what will be reflected in your proposed budget.

854
00:36:28.025 --> 00:36:29.445
Mm-hmm. Um,

855
00:36:29.445 --> 00:36:31.285
and also at the bottom is the information

856
00:36:31.285 --> 00:36:33.645
for the teams meeting that they committed to.

857
00:36:33.645 --> 00:36:36.125
Right. Um, so there's the login information

858
00:36:36.425 --> 00:36:39.085
for any supervisors to join the teams meeting.

859
00:36:39.625 --> 00:36:43.005
Um, it's May 2nd at 3:00 PM Okay.

860
00:36:43.005 --> 00:36:45.085
Um, and the credentials are included on the letter.

861
00:36:46.035 --> 00:36:48.725
What would you say the, now obviously it's a reduction

862
00:36:48.725 --> 00:36:51.325
from what they were asking for previously.

863
00:36:51.905 --> 00:36:54.605
Uh, what is the amount of reduction if they come back with

864
00:36:54.605 --> 00:36:56.765
what are we actually saving from what they initially wanted?

865
00:36:57.065 --> 00:36:58.205
Do you know that at this point?

866
00:36:59.305 --> 00:37:02.285
So that's what we're, we are reviewing that

867
00:37:02.285 --> 00:37:05.205
because again, they combined both all

868
00:37:05.205 --> 00:37:07.805
of the pole rental fees, fees a little, and the electricity.

869
00:37:08.465 --> 00:37:10.765
Um, so we can compare your budget,

870
00:37:11.105 --> 00:37:14.925
but that's going to be different than the notices for trying

871
00:37:14.925 --> 00:37:18.085
to identify the differences in the poll rental specifically.

872
00:37:18.085 --> 00:37:20.765
Okay. Um, but we, we can get that information out to you.

873
00:37:21.555 --> 00:37:22.965
Also, just to kind of add to it,

874
00:37:22.985 --> 00:37:24.725
my understanding in talking with their chairman

875
00:37:24.745 --> 00:37:26.605
of the board, uh, the lights

876
00:37:26.605 --> 00:37:28.805
that are gonna be put in right now we have quartz

877
00:37:28.815 --> 00:37:30.165
lamps that are in our lights.

878
00:37:30.785 --> 00:37:33.485
Uh, you can't buy those anymore. You can't replace those.

879
00:37:33.485 --> 00:37:34.485
They're just not available.

880
00:37:35.185 --> 00:37:38.565
So they're transferring over to the bright white LEDs.

881
00:37:38.985 --> 00:37:40.365
That's what they'll be installing.

882
00:37:40.755 --> 00:37:43.165
That will be a vast improvement in the amount of light

883
00:37:43.165 --> 00:37:44.445
that we currently have out there.

884
00:37:44.935 --> 00:37:48.685
Which also not to beat the horse to death can reflect on

885
00:37:48.685 --> 00:37:49.765
how much brighter it could be

886
00:37:49.765 --> 00:37:51.365
for our paths when you're driving at night.

887
00:37:51.675 --> 00:37:54.205
That may add to that and make it even a little better.

888
00:37:54.465 --> 00:37:55.925
So we're looking forward to that too.

889
00:37:56.585 --> 00:37:59.285
But we still don't have the final breakdown on numbers.

890
00:37:59.505 --> 00:38:01.885
And that will be interesting once you guys calculate that

891
00:38:01.945 --> 00:38:03.805
to see how much we're really reduced.

892
00:38:04.865 --> 00:38:07.005
Yes. Because in one invoice, you know,

893
00:38:07.005 --> 00:38:09.005
it reflects a 9% change.

894
00:38:09.055 --> 00:38:13.005
Right. But it was 4,000 467 60, um, going

895
00:38:13.025 --> 00:38:17.365
to 4,000 876 40, which is still lower right.

896
00:38:17.475 --> 00:38:19.325
Than what was originally projected.

897
00:38:19.705 --> 00:38:21.405
But again, it's your cumulative code.

898
00:38:21.405 --> 00:38:23.325
It trust in a different way though. Yes. Okay.

899
00:38:23.345 --> 00:38:25.965
So right, right now it's a little smoke and mirrors.

900
00:38:25.965 --> 00:38:27.085
We need to find out what it really

901
00:38:27.085 --> 00:38:28.085
Is. Right. And then your,

902
00:38:28.085 --> 00:38:30.005
your larger invoice, um,

903
00:38:30.255 --> 00:38:35.085
going from 4 95, um, four 95,000, $38

904
00:38:35.225 --> 00:38:39.405
and 55 cents to 539,000 984 65.

905
00:38:39.985 --> 00:38:41.165
Um, we did, uh,

906
00:38:41.165 --> 00:38:43.645
request additional detail at this point though.

907
00:38:43.785 --> 00:38:45.045
Um, we don't have

908
00:38:45.665 --> 00:38:47.445
and are not sure that we're going

909
00:38:47.445 --> 00:38:49.245
to get the additional detail from cco.

910
00:38:49.245 --> 00:38:50.845
So we're working internally to mm-hmm.

911
00:38:50.925 --> 00:38:52.205
To do the calculations. Okay.

912
00:38:52.785 --> 00:38:54.525
Uh, a question in line with that.

913
00:38:54.685 --> 00:38:57.285
I know that there was, uh, an exploratory project

914
00:38:57.285 --> 00:38:58.445
regarding solar lighting

915
00:38:58.445 --> 00:39:00.325
that was conducted by another district.

916
00:39:00.905 --> 00:39:02.125
Has that come to fruition?

917
00:39:02.185 --> 00:39:05.485
Do they know whether that's feasible or within cost?

918
00:39:05.945 --> 00:39:08.405
So District seven held their meeting yesterday

919
00:39:08.985 --> 00:39:12.285
and that, uh, request for proposal was discussed.

920
00:39:12.355 --> 00:39:14.725
Essentially they had five submissions,

921
00:39:14.935 --> 00:39:16.885
three were deemed non-responsive.

922
00:39:17.065 --> 00:39:19.205
Um, they did not include bid bonds.

923
00:39:19.745 --> 00:39:22.885
Um, so they were not evaluated by the selection committee.

924
00:39:23.145 --> 00:39:27.765
Two were, um, the board elected to reject all submissions

925
00:39:28.745 --> 00:39:33.565
and um, include additional detail in the scope about the

926
00:39:33.565 --> 00:39:36.045
aesthetics of the community and the quality

927
00:39:36.465 --> 00:39:39.485
and appearance of the existing pole types that they have.

928
00:39:40.265 --> 00:39:44.365
Um, so we're going to revise that scope and reissue the RFP.

929
00:39:44.545 --> 00:39:46.285
It goes out for bid again then? Yes, it's going

930
00:39:46.285 --> 00:39:47.445
Out for bid again, just curious.

931
00:39:48.995 --> 00:39:51.605
Okay. Any questions regarding the cco? Yes sir.

932
00:39:51.605 --> 00:39:54.845
Just a comment. Were you surprised at the reduction,

933
00:39:57.165 --> 00:39:58.185
the price reduction?

934
00:39:58.445 --> 00:40:02.145
I'm sure there is one not going into specific, uh,

935
00:40:02.165 --> 00:40:05.225
rental versus the, uh, electrical fee.

936
00:40:05.455 --> 00:40:08.025
Yeah, I was surprised when I thought that,

937
00:40:08.025 --> 00:40:10.305
that there was gonna be an overall reduction

938
00:40:10.305 --> 00:40:13.185
that we not be responsible for the 50%

939
00:40:13.325 --> 00:40:15.065
for this coming fiscal year.

940
00:40:16.295 --> 00:40:17.705
Correct. You still Have what?

941
00:40:17.965 --> 00:40:19.865
You still have a minimal, it would be,

942
00:40:20.245 --> 00:40:24.345
you still have a minimal increase over your current portion

943
00:40:24.775 --> 00:40:26.185
that you're paying, but you're correct.

944
00:40:26.405 --> 00:40:29.785
You're not going to pay the 50%, the full, the second half

945
00:40:29.965 --> 00:40:31.185
of your allotment.

946
00:40:31.805 --> 00:40:35.625
But again, I was saying were you was staff surprised at

947
00:40:35.625 --> 00:40:38.665
that reduction or you anticipated it?

948
00:40:39.145 --> 00:40:40.505
I don't know that we anticipated it,

949
00:40:40.525 --> 00:40:43.985
but I think that CCO heard feedback from all of the boards

950
00:40:44.405 --> 00:40:46.665
and how the increase was received.

951
00:40:48.935 --> 00:40:52.675
Not well. Yes, correct. It was not received well.

952
00:40:53.505 --> 00:40:56.315
Okay. Good. Any questions? Any further questions? Yeah.

953
00:40:56.395 --> 00:40:59.315
I believe SL got a sizable grant as well

954
00:40:59.385 --> 00:41:02.315
that I think may have impacted somewhat on their costs.

955
00:41:02.785 --> 00:41:04.595
Several million. It saved them. Yeah.

956
00:41:04.595 --> 00:41:08.195
Several million dollars. Yeah. Good. Okay.

957
00:41:09.215 --> 00:41:12.155
Now as far as services, uh, response time

958
00:41:12.155 --> 00:41:13.875
and so forth, that will change also.

959
00:41:13.875 --> 00:41:16.195
Correct? Correct. Didn't they They modify some of those?

960
00:41:16.815 --> 00:41:18.395
Yes. So the previous communication

961
00:41:18.395 --> 00:41:20.915
that you received outlined the areas that they were going

962
00:41:20.915 --> 00:41:23.235
to adjust and that was one of them that the,

963
00:41:23.235 --> 00:41:24.955
It's not gonna be a six hour response time

964
00:41:24.955 --> 00:41:26.555
anymore like we used to have. Correct.

965
00:41:26.555 --> 00:41:29.275
They're moving to the seven to 30 day time period.

966
00:41:29.825 --> 00:41:33.645
Okay. Okay. Good. Moving on.

967
00:41:33.925 --> 00:41:35.525
District council reports. Welcome.

968
00:41:35.905 --> 00:41:38.125
Yes sir. Just one report looking at your, uh,

969
00:41:38.125 --> 00:41:39.765
public hearing case update list.

970
00:41:39.815 --> 00:41:40.885
There is one property,

971
00:41:40.885 --> 00:41:41.885
you only have three properties

972
00:41:41.885 --> 00:41:42.965
on there, so you're doing pretty good.

973
00:41:42.985 --> 00:41:46.165
The first one, we filed a lawsuit on that one

974
00:41:46.165 --> 00:41:48.725
and already have a judgment lien certificate filed the State

975
00:41:48.725 --> 00:41:50.885
of Florida and a lien recorded in the public record.

976
00:41:50.985 --> 00:41:53.325
So that one is not much more we can do

977
00:41:53.325 --> 00:41:56.485
with the second one on Sander Link Street, though I'm kind

978
00:41:56.485 --> 00:41:57.485
of monitoring that one.

979
00:41:57.585 --> 00:41:59.405
Uh, community standards did send me an email

980
00:41:59.405 --> 00:42:00.445
with some information on it.

981
00:42:00.445 --> 00:42:02.245
It looks like it might be going through foreclosure.

982
00:42:02.945 --> 00:42:05.045
Uh, I'm gonna keep an eye on it, see what happens with that.

983
00:42:05.045 --> 00:42:06.885
But that might be one you want to proceed with,

984
00:42:07.185 --> 00:42:08.325
um, at some point in time.

985
00:42:09.245 --> 00:42:12.005
'cause the fines are over $20,000 on that one. Yeah, we

986
00:42:12.005 --> 00:42:13.005
Talked about the last meeting.

987
00:42:13.315 --> 00:42:15.325
Yeah, so for now I'm kind of monitoring it

988
00:42:15.325 --> 00:42:17.525
because the foreclosure that, uh,

989
00:42:17.585 --> 00:42:19.605
was posted on the property was sort

990
00:42:19.605 --> 00:42:20.965
of a federal type foreclosure.

991
00:42:21.185 --> 00:42:22.805
So, um, something a little different.

992
00:42:23.545 --> 00:42:24.645
So I'll keep an eye on it

993
00:42:24.705 --> 00:42:27.405
and, um, if the property owners are still there

994
00:42:27.585 --> 00:42:29.965
or if it's still owned by the same individuals,

995
00:42:29.965 --> 00:42:32.165
then this again might be one we wanna proceed with.

996
00:42:32.475 --> 00:42:34.365
Federal lie usually has something to do

997
00:42:34.365 --> 00:42:35.485
with a law enforcement.

998
00:42:36.155 --> 00:42:39.645
Well this one, uh, cited to an FHA, um, type deal.

999
00:42:39.745 --> 00:42:42.005
So I have to look into that a little further. Okay.

1000
00:42:42.755 --> 00:42:47.685
Okay. Questions? Okay. Any audience comments?

1001
00:42:48.575 --> 00:42:52.445
Now's your chance about that or in general? In general.

1002
00:42:54.065 --> 00:42:55.065
Yes sir.

1003
00:42:58.225 --> 00:43:00.645
Lee Gilpen 2155 Darlington Drive.

1004
00:43:02.195 --> 00:43:06.155
I have been floating question around about why so

1005
00:43:06.735 --> 00:43:09.555
few people attend these meetings, whether it be

1006
00:43:10.235 --> 00:43:11.595
District five only or all of 'em.

1007
00:43:11.595 --> 00:43:13.315
And it appears it's all of the districts

1008
00:43:14.175 --> 00:43:15.555
except when there's a complaint

1009
00:43:15.575 --> 00:43:17.955
and then they come in and crosses.

1010
00:43:18.055 --> 00:43:19.595
But I'm sitting here thinking

1011
00:43:19.595 --> 00:43:23.435
that I'm probably not the only one that can't hear

1012
00:43:23.585 --> 00:43:25.315
what is said at these meetings.

1013
00:43:26.055 --> 00:43:27.955
Uh, these microphones that you use,

1014
00:43:28.375 --> 00:43:32.155
and I have microphone fright myself bad enough that, uh,

1015
00:43:32.225 --> 00:43:34.035
have trouble speaking in, in public.

1016
00:43:34.535 --> 00:43:36.315
But when I can't remember

1017
00:43:36.335 --> 00:43:39.795
to speak into the microphone, I'm wasting my time.

1018
00:43:40.295 --> 00:43:41.755
And it's a waste of time to come

1019
00:43:41.755 --> 00:43:44.195
to these meetings when the people can't understand

1020
00:43:44.195 --> 00:43:47.915
what you folks are saying to once amongst yourself.

1021
00:43:48.425 --> 00:43:51.675
This spacing goes back to the, to the pandemic

1022
00:43:52.305 --> 00:43:54.115
when it was these meetings were held in,

1023
00:43:54.175 --> 00:43:55.475
uh, like something landing.

1024
00:43:55.495 --> 00:43:56.555
You were sitting side by

1025
00:43:56.555 --> 00:43:57.675
side and we could hear what you said.

1026
00:43:57.835 --> 00:43:59.795
'cause we were then feet above you.

1027
00:44:00.425 --> 00:44:04.235
This atmosphere here, this environment here, uh, in addition

1028
00:44:04.235 --> 00:44:06.875
to things being posted on that screen, which I just happened

1029
00:44:06.875 --> 00:44:10.635
to look at, it's impossible for us to see that it needs

1030
00:44:10.635 --> 00:44:12.635
to be where it can be seen or be big enough.

1031
00:44:12.775 --> 00:44:15.275
If it's important enough for it to be put on the screen,

1032
00:44:15.975 --> 00:44:17.595
the the audience should be able

1033
00:44:17.595 --> 00:44:18.835
to see it as well as you folks.

1034
00:44:19.695 --> 00:44:21.635
And getting back to these studies,

1035
00:44:21.855 --> 00:44:25.395
it doesn't take a $10,000 study to find somebody

1036
00:44:25.395 --> 00:44:27.195
that can find microphones that work.

1037
00:44:27.195 --> 00:44:29.115
Like you see on the news, people on tv,

1038
00:44:29.665 --> 00:44:31.965
they got a little tiny thing about the big as a,

1039
00:44:32.165 --> 00:44:34.365
a peanut on their, on their clothing.

1040
00:44:34.865 --> 00:44:37.005
And you can hear every word they say. But

1041
00:44:37.235 --> 00:44:38.725
Here, if you look the other way,

1042
00:44:38.905 --> 00:44:39.905
You're not heard.

1043
00:44:40.185 --> 00:44:43.765
You gotta speak right into these Tencent store microphones.

1044
00:44:43.765 --> 00:44:45.885
And I know they're not Tencent store microphones. No.

1045
00:44:45.885 --> 00:44:49.405
Something should be done to make the audience more likely

1046
00:44:49.665 --> 00:44:53.925
to come and participate, be aware of what is going on.

1047
00:44:53.925 --> 00:44:57.085
This is a unique type of government that,

1048
00:44:57.185 --> 00:44:58.805
uh, I'm not familiar with.

1049
00:44:59.005 --> 00:45:00.245
I came from Montgomery County, Maryland

1050
00:45:00.255 --> 00:45:02.765
where there was a little clique that did it over dinner

1051
00:45:03.185 --> 00:45:04.965
and then they came in and made believe

1052
00:45:04.965 --> 00:45:07.925
that they were having a public meeting about, uh,

1053
00:45:07.955 --> 00:45:09.045
such and such a matter.

1054
00:45:09.475 --> 00:45:11.205
This is an ideal situation.

1055
00:45:11.265 --> 00:45:14.525
And I think you would have a lot more, not only this group,

1056
00:45:15.165 --> 00:45:17.565
a lot more people would attend their local

1057
00:45:18.325 --> 00:45:20.365
district's boards of supervisors.

1058
00:45:20.905 --> 00:45:22.725
And just one more thing on the, uh,

1059
00:45:23.745 --> 00:45:25.205
on the reflective monitors,

1060
00:45:25.765 --> 00:45:28.765
I was not exactly quoted on the minutes correctly.

1061
00:45:28.965 --> 00:45:31.525
I was in hopes that you would go about

1062
00:45:31.525 --> 00:45:34.005
that decision based on the leadership.

1063
00:45:34.145 --> 00:45:36.645
The District five has shown, going back

1064
00:45:36.645 --> 00:45:40.565
to the anonymous complaints issue, you set an example there.

1065
00:45:41.185 --> 00:45:44.125
And I think that is floating around through all

1066
00:45:44.125 --> 00:45:45.965
of the other residential districts too.

1067
00:45:46.465 --> 00:45:48.405
And I believe if you, when you do go ahead

1068
00:45:48.405 --> 00:45:51.325
with these reflectors, you're gonna be setting a, a visible

1069
00:45:51.915 --> 00:45:54.845
example of why the others should come aboard.

1070
00:45:55.305 --> 00:45:56.405
Thanks. Thank you.

1071
00:45:57.085 --> 00:45:59.645
I can't argue your comments on the microphones. I agree.

1072
00:45:59.805 --> 00:46:01.605
I sat in the meeting the other day, the,

1073
00:46:01.625 --> 00:46:02.965
the PA meeting the other day.

1074
00:46:03.745 --> 00:46:06.125
Uh, I noticed pretty much anybody

1075
00:46:06.125 --> 00:46:07.845
that talked the mic was over here

1076
00:46:08.265 --> 00:46:09.485
so you really couldn't hear 'em.

1077
00:46:09.485 --> 00:46:11.965
Yeah. And uh, yeah, that's a problem.

1078
00:46:12.345 --> 00:46:14.685
It is hard to get people to talk into these microphones

1079
00:46:15.005 --> 00:46:16.685
directly unless they put it right in front of their mouth.

1080
00:46:17.105 --> 00:46:19.045
So most of you don't, I wouldn't either.

1081
00:46:19.425 --> 00:46:22.325
We can take, we can take a look at that. Not a problem.

1082
00:46:23.535 --> 00:46:25.325
Agree. Can we explore that?

1083
00:46:26.545 --> 00:46:28.685
We do have an upgraded sound system

1084
00:46:28.785 --> 00:46:32.005
and that is what part of this system is,

1085
00:46:32.145 --> 00:46:34.725
and the fact that we tied into the rec center,

1086
00:46:35.365 --> 00:46:36.725
I think one, one of the, but you have to

1087
00:46:36.725 --> 00:46:37.605
Talk into this. Correct.

1088
00:46:37.665 --> 00:46:41.565
One of the reminders that, that we will, um, send out

1089
00:46:41.565 --> 00:46:43.165
to board members before and

1090
00:46:43.165 --> 00:46:45.205
after the committee meeting is that these are wireless

1091
00:46:45.545 --> 00:46:48.365
and one of the reasons why we went with wireless is

1092
00:46:48.365 --> 00:46:50.725
that you can move it and have it Right.

1093
00:46:50.885 --> 00:46:51.925
I know. Right in front of you.

1094
00:46:52.305 --> 00:46:54.085
So the question is, will they, and do they,

1095
00:46:54.185 --> 00:46:56.005
and then so far that's not exactly working.

1096
00:46:57.495 --> 00:46:58.605
We'll remind the groups

1097
00:46:58.905 --> 00:47:00.925
to speak directly into the microphones.

1098
00:47:02.475 --> 00:47:04.325
Okay. Thank you Lee. Appreciate it.

1099
00:47:04.425 --> 00:47:07.845
Any other comments from the audience? Okay, we will move on.

1100
00:47:08.275 --> 00:47:11.795
Supervisors. Mr. Fei? No comment.

1101
00:47:11.815 --> 00:47:13.795
Any comments Mr. Noll? Yes.

1102
00:47:13.895 --> 00:47:16.795
Um, this one's for Mike Harris

1103
00:47:16.975 --> 00:47:21.075
and, uh, I received a couple of phone calls from residents,

1104
00:47:21.215 --> 00:47:25.915
uh, expressing concern about the, uh, the basin on the, uh,

1105
00:47:25.975 --> 00:47:28.355
Arnold Palmer Golf course.

1106
00:47:29.505 --> 00:47:33.125
The basin is located on the north side of Belvere,

1107
00:47:33.955 --> 00:47:38.685
just west of Buena Vista at the, uh, Bonnie Brook gate.

1108
00:47:39.355 --> 00:47:42.085
That, that, that, uh, basin is dry

1109
00:47:42.185 --> 00:47:43.285
and, and we understand it.

1110
00:47:43.475 --> 00:47:45.645
It's been a drought condition and,

1111
00:47:46.145 --> 00:47:50.445
but apparently there's a lot of debris, trash,

1112
00:47:50.755 --> 00:47:53.405
garbage and things of that nature that are starting

1113
00:47:53.425 --> 00:47:54.605
to accumulate in there.

1114
00:47:55.065 --> 00:47:58.325
And they said that they had made some phone calls

1115
00:47:58.465 --> 00:48:02.125
and they were waiting for something to happen there.

1116
00:48:02.865 --> 00:48:06.045
And, uh, if you could take a look at that, I'd appreciate it

1117
00:48:06.045 --> 00:48:07.565
and I will let these residents know

1118
00:48:07.565 --> 00:48:10.645
that we're on it. Thank you.

1119
00:48:11.315 --> 00:48:15.445
Okay. Thanks Jerry. Mr. Martin? No comments, Mr. Chairman.

1120
00:48:16.035 --> 00:48:17.885
Okay. And I have nothing further.

1121
00:48:18.085 --> 00:48:19.325
I think we covered everything in the meeting.

1122
00:48:19.545 --> 00:48:21.645
So at this point we'd entertain a motion to adjourn.

1123
00:48:21.865 --> 00:48:22.965
So moved. Second,

1124
00:48:22.965 --> 00:48:24.405
Second, second. We

1125
00:48:24.405 --> 00:48:25.405
Are hereby adjourned.

1126
00:48:27.375 --> 00:48:27.805
Thank you.