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Before the, uh, April meeting of District nine,

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I know all supervisors are here.

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So we have a quorum. It's official meeting.

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And if I could, if we would, uh, stand

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for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge of allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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And two over which it stands, one nation,

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indivisible, with liberty

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and justice, all we would stand, stay standing

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for a moment of silence.

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As we remember, our first responders, uh, deployed military.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to welcome any attendees.

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We have welcome to, to the, uh, meeting.

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And if you have any comments that you'd like to make,

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if it's an agenda topic, if you hold it

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until the agenda topic comes up, we appreciate it.

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Oh, well, I made an amendment today.

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I won't say I don't look like it. We won't say anything.

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Welcome, though. We'll know there was an upgrade.

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Yeah, Christie

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put his name in favor on mine,

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but if anyone would have any comments this time,

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appropriate time to make them.

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If not, we'll continue to, uh, follow the agenda.

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And our first, uh, topic is the Law

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Enforcement quarterly update.

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Good afternoon, gentlemen. My name is Sergeant Adam Dodge

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with the Sumter County Sheriff's Office.

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I'm here to provide you with your

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quarterly law enforcement update.

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I am able to provide you, uh, now with some statistics

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for vehicle crashes and citations.

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Uh, we have, uh, as you're well aware, have been, uh,

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struggling through the recovery process

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of a ransomware attack.

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We have numbers to provide,

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however, I've been told that if these numbers are, uh,

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slightly off, so if we find out six months down the road

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that we have, uh, 10 more than what I tell you,

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please don't be upset with us.

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These numbers are fluid as we still, uh,

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consolidate paper citations

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and those issues that were written during that period.

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But during our last quarter,

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Suffolk County Sheriff's Office responded to 467, uh,

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automobile crashes

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and 37 golf, sorry, excuse me, 36 golf cart crashes.

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The Sheriff's Office also issued within the Villages 653,

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uh, motor vehicle citations during that quarter.

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Uh, so we are, uh, out

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and about, uh, within the community, uh, hoping

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to make an impact on, on traffic safety.

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I do want to, um, make you aware,

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we talk about the community, uh, community watch.

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Sometimes people, uh, inquire.

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They ask about our relationship.

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I tell you, our working relationship

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with Communitywide is, is excellent.

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And they're a excellent resource, uh, not only for us, but

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but your constituents as well.

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Uh, we think of them as a really a force multiplier when

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we're out looking for a person who's walked off,

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wandered away their extra eyeballs in the area, uh,

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they conduct those, uh, business checks

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or recreation, uh, district, uh, property checks

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that are excellent for us

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and making sure those assets are protected for the district.

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We had a recent success story

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with a stolen golf cart from Lake Sumter Landing.

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Golf Cart was stolen, and usually when we have a reported

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golf cart stolen at Lake Sumter Landing,

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we say, let's help you find it.

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We can go out and find where they parked it.

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It's not actually stolen, but this was a

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legitimately stolen golf cart.

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Um, and, uh,

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the detective in reviewing video footage from Lake Sumter

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Landing then found, uh, gate camera video, uh,

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with the assistance of the, uh, cameras in place,

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the community watch, and we're able

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to identify that individual.

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We've since recovered that golf cart.

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And, and it's been a, a win for us.

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And sometimes people ask, you know, if you just pull up

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to the gate and you, and you press the button,

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does it really limit anyone?

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It slows them down. We get a good picture of their face.

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We get a good picture of that license plate.

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It's an excellent resource for us,

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and it's great working with Community Watch.

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They're a great partner for us in helping to provide

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that service, uh, for the community.

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I do also wanna bring your attention.

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Scam scams have been, uh, uh, an issue nationwide,

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but they're something that plagues us here in this area.

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Uh, our community, uh, has, is from a demographic that,

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you know, grew up in a time where you look people in the eye

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and what you said you were gonna do, and you shook hands

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and that, and you meant it.

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Unfortunately, there's a lot

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of young people today out there looking to take advantage

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of, of your trust.

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Um, I would encourage you that if someone calls you

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and says you have a warrant for your arrest,

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please assume it's a scam.

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If someone, whatever they tell you, assume they're lying.

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It's unfortunate you have to do that.

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Uh, the Sheriff's Office, uh,

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we will let you know you have a warrant when we show up at

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your door, uh, not beforehand, okay?

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It's not a playhouse, uh, playground game

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where we're gonna give you a ten second head start.

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Now. We're gonna show up and, and make an arrest there.

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If someone says, you need to pay something via gift card,

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please know that's a scam.

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So, uh, in, as you speak with your constituents,

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I'd encourage you just to make them aware.

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Uh, speaking about scams

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and sharing information about scams is the best thing we

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can do to combat them.

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If you've heard about a scam, when you encounter

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that suspicious situation

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and they say, Hey, I heard, heard someone mention my friend

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down the street said they, uh, dealt with this scam.

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And, uh, they may be, uh, quick enough to not fall for it.

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So, gentlemen, that's all

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the information I have for you today.

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If you have any questions, I'd

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be more than happy to answer 'em.

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Um,

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Just for, uh, I get notices.

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There's a, on your website for the sheriff,

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I get notices this latest scam is going around and stuff.

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So it's a very helpful thing from your, uh,

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your organization to provide that.

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Absolutely. I'm glad you mentioned it.

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The Sheriff's Office has a mobile app.

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And, uh, through that mobile app, we have

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what we call Sumter Scam Sting.

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It's an, it's a way to input information.

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If you encounter a suspicious incident,

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you can put that information in.

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It opens up a comment box.

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You can say, Hey, I got a phone call,

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and this is what they explained.

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That information's forwarded

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to our white collar crimes Detective who vets

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and verifies that is indeed a scam.

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And then we're able to push that information out, uh,

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to all the users of the mobile app.

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Again, just sharing information about the,

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the scams is really the best thing we can do to combat them.

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Thank you for doing that. Thank you, John.

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Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Good. Okay. Okay.

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Uh, we'll turn to new business.

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Uh, the first item is approval of your minutes.

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I think everybody was provided copies of the minutes

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or any make a motion to approve the minutes.

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Second. Motion moved. And second. All all in favor? A aye.

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All opposed minutes have been approved.

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Uh, Mr. Chairman, the next item is the consideration

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for the installation and maintenance agreement, uh, for

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safety equipment with Flock Group Incorporated,

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doing business as flock safety.

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Um, so this request is for, um,

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through the Sum County Sheriff's Office for the installation

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of an automatic automatic license plate reader, A LPR, um,

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located in District nine, right of way, um,

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near Mission Hills Trail and South Morris Boulevard.

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Okay. Um, approaching,

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if you're heading North County Road 4 66.

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Um, this request, um, would be at no cost to the district.

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Um, they would be required to, um,

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maintain the device, excuse me.

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Um, and that would include all installation,

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operation maintenance, and eventual removal costs.

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Um, there are an ag there is an agreement attached, um,

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that also contains specific insurance requirements

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for commercial general liability, um, automobile liability

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and professional liability, um, that will be funded

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by flock safety.

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Um, additionally, they have received all necessary permits,

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um, from Sumter County.

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Um, so at this time, um, we'd be happy

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to address any questions, um,

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but staff would recommend approval of the agreement

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before you, um, for installation

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of this device in the right of way.

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Okay. What, what does that physically look like?

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Uh, the flock safety device. So it will be,

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Looking to see, I'm pretty sure

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they're included in one of the

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If you look on page 57, 57 of the, uh,

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in packet, there is a diagram

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That Shows, um, where it would be,

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it looks like there might be a solar panel above

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It as well. Yes. So

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it's on the attachment that's labeled, um, right

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of way or ROW 25 dash 0 0 0 0 4 4 permit approval.

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There is a, um, schematic in there

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that essentially shows the pole mounted device.

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And there's also a, a photo of a camera there as well,

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or a drawing of it.

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Okay. I made a motion to approve second

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motion been made and approve to approve the, uh,

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recommendation on the camera in the across end of the hills.

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Anyone any further debate? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

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All opposed. Motion passes.

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Thank you. Uh, the next item is to request

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and discuss fines

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for case number D nine dash zero one dash 24.

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Ms. Boyd is approaching the podium.

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Good afternoon board Shannon Boyd Community Standards.

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Um, today I have a request to discuss fines,

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case number D nine dash zero one dash 24.

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Uh, this property was brought

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before the board at a public hearing held on

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January 18th, 2024, excuse me,

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and found to be in violation by failing to remove the weeds

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and the mold from the driveway.

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The homeowner was granted seven days

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to bring the property into compliance.

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So weeds were brought into compliance during

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that seven day compliance period that was granted

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during the public hearing,

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but the mold was still on the driveway.

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After that seven days, the homeowner refused

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to allow the district to maintain the mold on the driveway.

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So the fines began

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to accrue at the $150 initial fine in $50 a day

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until the property is brought into compliance.

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Um, the homeowner's daughter did provide a letter, uh,

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for you, uh, excuse me, an email for you to review.

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Uh, the property was brought into compliance on

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March 1st, 2024.

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The outstanding fine balance accrued during

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that time is 1080 $7,

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and there is $137 of that in associated cost incurred

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by the district, which includes administrative

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fees and lien fees.

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So, staff recommends that the board review the information

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and provide direction to staff to waive the fines,

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waive the fines, um, minus the cost incurred

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by the district, or deny the request to waive the fines.

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And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

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Okay. Comments? I have a question.

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Um, and I'm not sure who would've the answer,

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but is, is this a case of first impression

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within District nine,

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for example? You mean

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As far as a request for reduction in fine,

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Or, or, or, or waiver room e either.

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I, I'm not sure. I mean, it happened,

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it happens throughout the,

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the villages of the different districts.

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Uh, I'm not sure if any

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Have come before. I think, I believe

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we have. Yeah.

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And it's a case by case based,

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Obviously. Right. And

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generally, what you look at when you decide

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whether you wanna waive fines is, um, how long it took

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for them to come into compliance.

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Um, whether they acted immediately

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after the order of enforcement was entered,

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whether there was anything

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that prevented them from completing the work.

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You know, um, generally when someone starts

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to act right away, um,

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even though maybe they don't complete it within the time

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period, they show that, they show

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that they've tried to get it done.

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Uh, in those cases, some districts will,

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will waive some of the fines.

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The only thing that sticks out to me here is they're, um,

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not allowing the district to go on the property to,

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to remedy it, but not remedy it themselves.

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Um, that's kind of an issue.

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But on the other hand, apparently the property owner has now

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passed and the daughter it looks like is requesting correct,

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um, for the fine reduction.

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So again, if you're gonna reduce the fine, you're gonna want

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to have a reason for doing it.

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Like, um, they started to act immediately, which they did,

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at least for part of it.

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They did remove the weeds within the seven day time period.

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It's just the mold. Um, so, you know, you have to look at it

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and, uh, on a case by case basis, decide whether, uh,

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based on the facts you want to grant them.

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Any sort of leniency on, on the wa on the waiver?

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Well, again, and the other question I would've, and, and,

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and forgive me, um, as you all know,

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I'm a rookie here. Um, we all

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Are.

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Um, but my understanding, um, from other issues we have,

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I'm aware of there's no direct appeal of a,

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of a board decision to the board.

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So what's the foundation?

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What's, what's the, uh, criteria that would allow the board

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to now act on this?

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So the board has the right to,

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to waive fines if they choose to.

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But like I always say, if you're gonna waive fines,

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you should have a reason for doing it.

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You can't have two people with the same issue come in, um,

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and have taken the same action

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and grant one a waiver and not the other.

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So there's gotta be some evidence that you want

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to put on the record as to why.

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And again, if you wanted to consider it here, you would say,

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well, at least they did part

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of the work within the seven day time period.

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Um, but then again, you have the other fact with the mold.

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And how long did it take for them to clear the mold?

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Um, it was a little over a month, about

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30. So even, even

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still, you know, that's not a lot of time.

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Whereas if someone comes in here

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and it took 'em a year to clear it,

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of course that's different.

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Um, so if you wanted to consider reducing

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or waiving, you would say, well, we're gonna do it

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because one, they got the weeds

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out of there within seven days.

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And two, although they didn't get the mold done within seven

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days, it was done within 30 to 40 days,

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which is a reasonable amount

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of time, if that's what you think.

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Uh, and then you make your motion and,

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and you decide that you wanna do it.

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And, uh, counsel, if I could, could I bring up a,

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uh, personal experience

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With something like this? Is that

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Permitted?

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Yeah, you can. Okay.

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Uh, brain cancer,

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when you get cancer in the brain, it does different things.

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We had good friends, uh, daughter was a, uh,

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very responsible citizen.

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Uh, worked for a company for about 20 years.

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Uh, she started suddenly just stealing money from the

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company, found out she had brain cancer,

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and it gave her a personality change.

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Uh, it didn't show up in anger or anything like that.

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She just all of a sudden had this need

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to take money from the company.

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She didn't do anything with it.

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She just took it and threw it in her drawer.

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So I can see, I'm not a medical professional,

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but based on that,

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this could have been a personality change.

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She did mention, the daughter did mention

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that they found lesions in his brain.

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So it could have been a personality change

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that he didn't want anybody on his property other than

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his daughter or himself.

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So for me, uh, the law is the law,

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but justice should be tempered with mercy.

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And I'd go for a waiver of all the fines, uh,

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including the 138

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or whatever that other fine is, uh, my opinion.

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So the 1 37 are the actual cost of district incurred?

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Yes, sir. My, uh, my feeling on

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that is absolutely root with yours.

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Except, uh, I would not waive the, um, cost

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to the villages to process it.

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That's, I would waive the fine,

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not the, I would agree with Steve.

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So then we just need a motion, um, based on

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what you've just discussed, any other comment before?

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Um, okay. I'll entertain a motion.

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Mr. Chairman. I'd make a motion to waive the fines,

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but not the fees.

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Costs. Cost. Cost. Excuse me.

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So it'd be waiving the one, the fines,

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but not the 1 37 correct.

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Cost of the Correct. I would second. Okay.

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Motion been made and the second to waive the fees,

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but not the, uh, cost of the district with $137.

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All in favor? Aye.

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Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion.

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Thank you. Board. Thank you.

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Okay.

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Okay. We're ready for old business.

390
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Yes. Good afternoon. Board members.

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Um, the first item on old business isn't to include options

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to reduce your maintenance costs

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and the fiscal year 25, 26 budget.

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Um, and that will be included in the budget process, um,

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which we are currently in.

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But at your May meeting, you'll get a diff additional

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budget information.

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Uh, the second item is to discuss

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how house fires are addressed in the district's rule

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to be bring back deed compliance.

401
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Um, you did authorize staff to advertise

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to hold a public hearing at your May meeting,

403
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but we've included an additional, um, discussion item

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after this old business chart.

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Uh, the third item is the 32 92

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Southwood Avenue.

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That lawsuit has been prepared,

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and hopefully by next month will have been

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served on the property owner.

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Um, and I can update you next month on that.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Uh, the next item is to provide maintenance expenses

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for reflective pavement markers.

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Um, so the 10 foot spacing on radiuss

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and 20 foot on straight lines, um,

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is $7,926 and 50 cents.

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$7,926 and 50 cents.

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And that's, uh, not to exceed cost.

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Um, that would include,

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so it would include the 850 mobilization fee as well.

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But,

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Uh, I know they base it on the number of feet of path.

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Yes. And a lot of the path already has it

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where there's a divider, where there's, um,

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That was taken into consideration.

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Yes. Existing RPMs that are out there,

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That is total cost.

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Okay. Okay.

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Um, and then under, not non-district nine items, um,

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we will at a future date provide,

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provide the utilization statistics for district gov.org.

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And then we are still working on adjusting the long range

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reader at Virginia Trace.

434
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We've had multiple adjustments made,

435
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but we're, we're trying to fine tune that location.

436
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Okay. Um, so that the item that is included

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on under old business as item B

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is the proposed chapter two rule

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to bring about deed compliance for the amendment

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and restatement related to house fires and other casualties.

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So we included on there the, the draft amendment, um,

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for the rule for discussion, um, as well as the third letter

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that is provided to residents.

444
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Um, the board did ask about that last month.

445
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Um, so staff is here to answer any questions you may have.

446
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Um, I know I've heard from, uh,

447
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a couple different board members about different viewpoints

448
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on potential adjustments.

449
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So, um, I'm happy to turn it over to you

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and then, um, we'll go from there.

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Uh, just to be upright on this, I, uh, asked Brittany to,

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uh, I'd like to put table this, uh,

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topic we go ahead and talk about today.

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I personally think that the, uh, it needs

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to be rewritten again.

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Uh, but I'd like to discuss it today so we can get it.

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And it wouldn't be discussed at the May meeting.

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We would put that off to the, uh,

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open forum on, in the June meeting.

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And, uh, so I'd like to have any other comments

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that people have.

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And I'll give you mine if

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anybody have any comment.

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Yeah, I did. I'm trying to get to the paragraph.

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Um, and it's a, uh, kind of a little bit

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of a confusion, uh, factor

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As soon as I can find it.

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Um, if somebody else can talk now

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if you want to, but I do have

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A comment. I'll go, I'll go ahead if you

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don't mind, just to,

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so save us some time.

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I, uh, I thought the, uh, paper is written

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and the changes was, uh,

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was very good from the district standpoint,

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and it, it, uh, was very,

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very reflective of what they should do.

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I did not think it was very good from

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the residents viewpoint.

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And if I were, I passed it out to a couple of residents

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to ask them to read it and see what they thought.

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They didn't understand it.

483
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And our whole purpose in this was to make it so

484
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residents would understand it.

485
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It'd be simple. It'd have dates.

486
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It wouldn't have vague things in it.

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Like the, uh, person who is in non-compliance has to go

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to another section someplace to find out

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what dates they're, they are involved.

490
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Uh, I just think we could make it a lot simpler

491
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and make it with very specific.

492
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We send out a letter after we're notified.

493
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The thing that really caught my attention says,

494
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after we're notified, who's gonna notify us?

495
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I thought we made that. We'd had that discussion earlier

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and said, we thought the public

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safety department would do it.

498
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Well, why not put that in there?

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Are we afraid of offending the public safety department?

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Or what is the reason?

501
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So I just think we ought to make it a lot more specific.

502
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It should be re uh, really resident friendly.

503
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So any new resident could pick it up and read it.

504
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Say, if my house caught on fire, I understand what I,

505
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what people would do for me and what I have to do.

506
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That's, so I think we spent a little more time on it.

507
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Yeah, I think those are good comments with regard

508
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to the one with public safety.

509
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I think the reason we did it that way is

510
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because it might be someone other than public safety

511
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that provides that notification.

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So that's why we did it that way.

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But we will look at it

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and take your comments into consideration

515
00:22:38.855 --> 00:22:40.735
and see what we can do to clarify some of that.

516
00:22:41.695 --> 00:22:45.185
Yeah. Um, perhaps something like public safety should be

517
00:22:45.205 --> 00:22:46.585
the first one to notify,

518
00:22:47.205 --> 00:22:50.665
but they will take issue from other complainants.

519
00:22:51.485 --> 00:22:54.105
One other comment that I, my background has been,

520
00:22:54.105 --> 00:22:58.705
when you have a situation like that, you prevent t uh,

521
00:22:59.165 --> 00:23:02.665
we, in the military, we call them poam plan

522
00:23:02.665 --> 00:23:03.785
of action with milestones.

523
00:23:03.885 --> 00:23:05.425
So you know what actions you gotta take

524
00:23:05.425 --> 00:23:06.585
and when you've gotta have 'em done.

525
00:23:07.285 --> 00:23:09.345
And I think if we gave that to the resident

526
00:23:09.345 --> 00:23:10.465
and said, Hey, you know,

527
00:23:11.035 --> 00:23:12.505
these are the things that have to be done.

528
00:23:12.815 --> 00:23:17.025
Keep your property in compliance with dates on it,

529
00:23:17.255 --> 00:23:20.225
it'd be a lot simpler than just being vague about it.

530
00:23:20.285 --> 00:23:21.985
So I would suggest we do that.

531
00:23:22.585 --> 00:23:25.505
I also believe, and I know we've gone through this before,

532
00:23:25.685 --> 00:23:28.145
but I, I still believe that we ought

533
00:23:28.145 --> 00:23:31.865
to get the developer involved, uh, at some manner,

534
00:23:32.175 --> 00:23:36.225
because I do believe that the developer has the resources

535
00:23:36.245 --> 00:23:37.345
and the talents

536
00:23:37.365 --> 00:23:40.585
and all the things to remember the case

537
00:23:40.585 --> 00:23:42.545
where we had the house to be rebuilt

538
00:23:42.965 --> 00:23:44.385
and the man had to go out

539
00:23:44.385 --> 00:23:46.085
and find someone that would build a house,

540
00:23:46.525 --> 00:23:48.405
a land tana designer home.

541
00:23:49.075 --> 00:23:51.085
Well, I still think the developer would,

542
00:23:51.225 --> 00:23:53.685
if he was really involved in, so I'm gonna go talk

543
00:23:53.685 --> 00:23:57.045
to whoever Gary Lester's, the new Gary Lester is,

544
00:23:57.785 --> 00:23:58.885
and just see what he thinks.

545
00:23:59.705 --> 00:24:02.605
And, and that was brought up offline as well.

546
00:24:02.865 --> 00:24:05.485
And that is something that I've requested feedback

547
00:24:05.705 --> 00:24:07.605
to provide to the board on. Okay. Good.

548
00:24:07.605 --> 00:24:11.165
Because I think, I mean, just this whole community is,

549
00:24:11.225 --> 00:24:14.765
is built around being a very friendly, helpful community.

550
00:24:15.265 --> 00:24:18.005
And I go back to the tornado when it went

551
00:24:18.005 --> 00:24:21.045
through here in 2005 or whatever it was,

552
00:24:21.905 --> 00:24:26.685
and how fast the developer responded to help residents.

553
00:24:27.245 --> 00:24:28.925
I don't know if that would be the case today.

554
00:24:29.045 --> 00:24:30.405
I think it would be. I hope it would be,

555
00:24:30.705 --> 00:24:31.805
but it could be, sure.

556
00:24:31.805 --> 00:24:33.525
Could be when a house fire happens.

557
00:24:33.705 --> 00:24:35.085
So I'd just like

558
00:24:35.085 --> 00:24:37.485
to delay this one a little bit till we get it right. Okay.

559
00:24:37.545 --> 00:24:40.805
You're comment on s would be very applicable.

560
00:24:41.185 --> 00:24:44.205
Um, this is seven pages of

561
00:24:44.205 --> 00:24:46.325
how we're gonna beat you up if you have a fire.

562
00:24:46.945 --> 00:24:49.045
But it never, and just the shock value

563
00:24:49.185 --> 00:24:50.405
of, of losing your house.

564
00:24:50.945 --> 00:24:53.045
Uh, you're not gonna be clearly

565
00:24:53.045 --> 00:24:54.485
thinking of what you have to do.

566
00:24:54.625 --> 00:24:58.125
No. You still have the deed restrictions from the developer

567
00:24:58.125 --> 00:25:02.445
is six months after a fire, and the district is eight months

568
00:25:03.225 --> 00:25:04.225
Now. I think we go by

569
00:25:04.225 --> 00:25:04.765
what the

570
00:25:04.765 --> 00:25:06.645
Developer is and I think it's eight months. Is

571
00:25:06.645 --> 00:25:07.645
It? Yes. And I believe

572
00:25:07.645 --> 00:25:09.845
it, it, there are some differences

573
00:25:09.845 --> 00:25:12.045
amongst the districts and throughout the community,

574
00:25:12.145 --> 00:25:14.285
but, um, Ms. Boyd can correct me if I'm wrong.

575
00:25:14.285 --> 00:25:18.085
Like the situations that we run into recently are they have

576
00:25:18.085 --> 00:25:20.045
to start the rebuild within two months

577
00:25:20.425 --> 00:25:21.925
and be complete within an eight.

578
00:25:22.665 --> 00:25:25.205
Mm-hmm. But they have to, they have to wait

579
00:25:25.205 --> 00:25:26.845
until they get an insurance settlement

580
00:25:27.225 --> 00:25:28.285
and they drag the anchor.

581
00:25:28.545 --> 00:25:31.765
The guy on, uh, Mayflower was four months. Yep.

582
00:25:32.265 --> 00:25:35.205
So that's definitely a considering factor.

583
00:25:35.605 --> 00:25:40.565
However, if regardless of when a complaint comes in,

584
00:25:41.265 --> 00:25:44.445
so even if taking out the emergency order of enforcement,

585
00:25:44.545 --> 00:25:46.645
if a complaint comes in, um,

586
00:25:46.705 --> 00:25:49.165
and the fire did occur eight months ago

587
00:25:49.265 --> 00:25:52.805
and they hadn't started rebuild, they are in violation.

588
00:25:53.595 --> 00:25:55.845
They, they, the clock doesn't start.

589
00:25:56.035 --> 00:25:57.885
It's, they're in violation at that time.

590
00:25:59.755 --> 00:26:02.365
Well, they can, they can maintain the property though.

591
00:26:02.515 --> 00:26:04.645
They can maintain the property, which appears

592
00:26:04.645 --> 00:26:07.045
to be the big thing, uh, in all of these fires

593
00:26:07.045 --> 00:26:11.445
that we've had, is that the property just goes to seed or

594
00:26:11.445 --> 00:26:12.845
however you want to describe it.

595
00:26:13.465 --> 00:26:17.325
Um, while the house is an eyesore,

596
00:26:17.325 --> 00:26:19.325
maybe the windows are boarded up, maybe they're not.

597
00:26:19.945 --> 00:26:22.005
Uh, but if they have started a process

598
00:26:22.185 --> 00:26:24.085
and saying, I'm, I'm working with my insurance,

599
00:26:24.145 --> 00:26:27.485
at least come in and bring proof, not just I'm saying this,

600
00:26:27.505 --> 00:26:28.885
but you bring a letter in that says,

601
00:26:29.425 --> 00:26:32.005
my insurance company has not settled with this yet.

602
00:26:32.075 --> 00:26:33.925
They expect it to be at such and such a time.

603
00:26:34.225 --> 00:26:36.205
The board has proven that we will be,

604
00:26:36.825 --> 00:26:38.725
um, ready to look at that.

605
00:26:38.785 --> 00:26:41.125
But as long as they're making pro progress on that

606
00:26:41.125 --> 00:26:43.885
and they're maintaining the property so that the neighbors

607
00:26:44.425 --> 00:26:47.925
aren't seeing a, uh, trash pile next door. Yes.

608
00:26:48.465 --> 00:26:52.845
And I, I think the important thing to, to note is

609
00:26:52.845 --> 00:26:57.005
that they can, if a property owner is out of compliance,

610
00:26:57.555 --> 00:27:00.405
your rule states that if it's brought to public hearing,

611
00:27:01.105 --> 00:27:02.725
you have a fine schedule mm-hmm.

612
00:27:02.805 --> 00:27:05.045
Associated with that. So it's really

613
00:27:06.275 --> 00:27:08.965
your enforcement mechanism is through that order

614
00:27:08.985 --> 00:27:10.805
of enforcement and the fines.

615
00:27:12.265 --> 00:27:16.085
But that doesn't necessarily correlate with the,

616
00:27:16.795 --> 00:27:18.445
even if they haven't started the rebuild

617
00:27:19.265 --> 00:27:22.125
or if they have started the rebuild, they could still be out

618
00:27:22.125 --> 00:27:24.405
of compliance and being assessed fines.

619
00:27:24.565 --> 00:27:27.085
'cause that's really where your input comes in.

620
00:27:27.495 --> 00:27:29.205
Right. And then I think that it,

621
00:27:29.385 --> 00:27:31.765
as I've seen the practice since I've been here,

622
00:27:32.065 --> 00:27:34.685
the fines are assessed if the person is not doing anything,

623
00:27:35.065 --> 00:27:37.365
you know, as, as in the case that was here earlier,

624
00:27:38.105 --> 00:27:40.045
you know, the, the weeds were taken care of,

625
00:27:40.065 --> 00:27:41.405
but the mold was not.

626
00:27:41.785 --> 00:27:45.685
And I, I think that's within our power to look at that.

627
00:27:46.345 --> 00:27:48.245
And if they're taking care of the property

628
00:27:48.915 --> 00:27:50.725
insurance company hasn't settled yet,

629
00:27:50.725 --> 00:27:51.965
but they can keep the yard mode.

630
00:27:52.445 --> 00:27:56.805
I think depending on that may be a satisfactory way to say,

631
00:27:56.875 --> 00:28:00.525
okay, uh, we're not gonna start the fines this week,

632
00:28:00.705 --> 00:28:03.405
but you take as much time. Or

633
00:28:03.405 --> 00:28:04.805
If you do start the fines

634
00:28:05.225 --> 00:28:08.725
and the scenario, I think that you just took action on

635
00:28:08.785 --> 00:28:10.485
to waive fines.

636
00:28:10.485 --> 00:28:12.365
The fines had been assessed. You had already, and,

637
00:28:12.425 --> 00:28:15.245
and, you know, you entered your order of enforcement.

638
00:28:15.665 --> 00:28:20.325
The fines had accrued, but they had justification as to

639
00:28:20.665 --> 00:28:24.165
and showed Im improvement of the property.

640
00:28:24.195 --> 00:28:26.165
That good faith efforts to improve it.

641
00:28:26.905 --> 00:28:29.205
So that could be a scenario as well. Mm-hmm.

642
00:28:29.285 --> 00:28:33.245
That they, they have substantial proof to show you

643
00:28:33.915 --> 00:28:35.805
what delayed their rebuild mm-hmm.

644
00:28:35.985 --> 00:28:37.085
For fine purposes.

645
00:28:37.295 --> 00:28:38.445
Right. And I think

646
00:28:41.115 --> 00:28:42.725
that may be spelled out a little bit better

647
00:28:42.725 --> 00:28:46.285
that when you know it as that, um, action plan

648
00:28:46.285 --> 00:28:48.325
that he's got, maybe an attachment in step one,

649
00:28:48.325 --> 00:28:49.405
step two, whatever.

650
00:28:49.945 --> 00:28:53.445
Uh, but in each of those, uh, steps where they come

651
00:28:53.445 --> 00:28:56.445
before the board, uh, they have to have paperwork with them.

652
00:28:56.465 --> 00:29:00.125
Mm-hmm. A copy of the, whatever you call it, the,

653
00:29:00.705 --> 00:29:02.245
The permit, Uh, permits Yes.

654
00:29:02.245 --> 00:29:03.525
Thank you permit from the county.

655
00:29:03.725 --> 00:29:04.965
A copy of, uh, you know, a letter

656
00:29:04.965 --> 00:29:06.005
from your insurance company.

657
00:29:06.005 --> 00:29:08.325
There's proof that they're actually doing something,

658
00:29:08.505 --> 00:29:11.445
but the wheels of the county

659
00:29:11.825 --> 00:29:14.685
or the insurance company are not permitting progress.

660
00:29:15.345 --> 00:29:17.965
And then the deed restrictions too, most

661
00:29:17.965 --> 00:29:19.725
of those sections state that

662
00:29:20.505 --> 00:29:24.965
unless it's due to governmental jurisdiction issues such

663
00:29:24.965 --> 00:29:25.965
as permitting

664
00:29:25.965 --> 00:29:29.765
or things of that nature that would, that's included within

665
00:29:29.885 --> 00:29:31.005
that rebuild timeframe.

666
00:29:31.455 --> 00:29:34.925
Right. But, uh, as we've had that experience here

667
00:29:34.925 --> 00:29:36.125
where people say

668
00:29:36.795 --> 00:29:39.005
that they've done stuff we should put in there,

669
00:29:39.005 --> 00:29:40.285
they have to bring proof.

670
00:29:40.465 --> 00:29:42.525
You know, like you gotta have a, uh,

671
00:29:42.615 --> 00:29:44.405
photo ID to do certain things.

672
00:29:44.625 --> 00:29:47.365
Uh, you gotta have proof to do things here too.

673
00:29:49.195 --> 00:29:51.485
Well, as we've discovered in the last four that we've had,

674
00:29:51.485 --> 00:29:53.845
each one of 'em have been different situation,

675
00:29:53.865 --> 00:29:55.645
but each one of 'em has been a difficult

676
00:29:56.045 --> 00:29:57.445
situation for the neighbors.

677
00:29:58.065 --> 00:30:02.365
And I, I just think if we had a, a more resident friendly

678
00:30:03.325 --> 00:30:05.605
approach to it and a letter that would,

679
00:30:05.865 --> 00:30:08.965
if my house burned down tomorrow in a week,

680
00:30:09.105 --> 00:30:12.565
I'd get a letter from the district that would friendly to me

681
00:30:12.865 --> 00:30:15.725
and and spelled out all the things would be a lot better off

682
00:30:15.725 --> 00:30:17.325
than just say, if you gotta go

683
00:30:17.325 --> 00:30:19.005
to the deed compliance regulation.

684
00:30:19.005 --> 00:30:20.845
Yeah. You gotta, you know, do this and that.

685
00:30:21.705 --> 00:30:24.445
People don't, I mean, we pay attention to it

686
00:30:24.685 --> 00:30:27.325
'cause we're, that's our jobs, but not, as we've said

687
00:30:27.325 --> 00:30:30.525
before, nine times out of 10, the resident doesn't even know

688
00:30:30.525 --> 00:30:32.245
that we have a regulation on these things.

689
00:30:32.345 --> 00:30:34.805
Yes. And what call, I'm sorry.

690
00:30:35.585 --> 00:30:39.565
Uh, that was the, the, uh, question that I had do.

691
00:30:40.145 --> 00:30:42.205
As soon as the fire department alerts us,

692
00:30:42.205 --> 00:30:45.885
do we send out this in whatever form we end up making it,

693
00:30:46.035 --> 00:30:48.405
whether it's, uh, this full length thing

694
00:30:48.405 --> 00:30:50.205
or maybe has what, uh, we used

695
00:30:50.205 --> 00:30:52.605
to call summary when we're writing engineering report

696
00:30:52.635 --> 00:30:54.965
summary, we all the important points,

697
00:30:55.345 --> 00:30:57.285
or an explainer as they call it now.

698
00:30:57.665 --> 00:31:00.925
Uh, and I realize that that can be tough when you have

699
00:31:01.725 --> 00:31:02.805
specific logistic things.

700
00:31:02.805 --> 00:31:04.045
You don't wanna say one thing here

701
00:31:04.505 --> 00:31:07.445
and then not validated in the text,

702
00:31:07.785 --> 00:31:09.525
but, uh, yes, I agree.

703
00:31:09.585 --> 00:31:12.085
It needs from that part, it needs to be clear.

704
00:31:12.585 --> 00:31:14.485
It needs to be something that's advantageous

705
00:31:14.485 --> 00:31:17.685
to the homeowner and it needs to be sent right away.

706
00:31:19.785 --> 00:31:23.765
So the emergency order of enforcement process is really

707
00:31:24.505 --> 00:31:29.365
the vehicle to initiate the, the deed compliance process.

708
00:31:29.585 --> 00:31:34.565
The documentation, um, it would allow, in this instance,

709
00:31:34.705 --> 00:31:36.365
it would allow it to come immediately

710
00:31:36.365 --> 00:31:38.685
to your next board meeting as a public hearing.

711
00:31:39.425 --> 00:31:41.645
Um, but then I understand what you're saying,

712
00:31:41.645 --> 00:31:44.525
and we've discussed that that communication letter

713
00:31:46.255 --> 00:31:50.065
that is sent to the resident, that that explains the process

714
00:31:50.905 --> 00:31:53.585
and the fact that there was a fire at the home,

715
00:31:53.845 --> 00:31:56.585
and here's the timeline included in the declaration

716
00:31:56.585 --> 00:31:59.185
of restrictions, and this is the date

717
00:31:59.185 --> 00:32:00.505
that the fines would accrue.

718
00:32:00.885 --> 00:32:03.265
And I, I, I understand that's,

719
00:32:03.295 --> 00:32:06.065
it's a difficult situation when any type of loss

720
00:32:06.065 --> 00:32:07.265
of residence occurs.

721
00:32:07.645 --> 00:32:11.505
Um, but it's essentially more of a, a notification as well

722
00:32:11.505 --> 00:32:15.545
that there is, in fact, these are the items that you agreed

723
00:32:15.545 --> 00:32:17.025
to within the deed restrictions.

724
00:32:17.245 --> 00:32:20.985
Yes. Um, but then an opportunity that they understand that

725
00:32:22.105 --> 00:32:23.565
if they come back before the board,

726
00:32:23.585 --> 00:32:26.085
and they did have permitting delays, but they have proof

727
00:32:26.185 --> 00:32:27.765
or they had insurance disputes,

728
00:32:27.765 --> 00:32:30.125
but they have proof what type

729
00:32:30.125 --> 00:32:32.165
of documentation is required by the board.

730
00:32:33.705 --> 00:32:36.645
Um, more than a year ago, long

731
00:32:36.645 --> 00:32:40.165
before you got here, the district, um, in one of these

732
00:32:40.395 --> 00:32:43.205
Discussions on this very topic,

733
00:32:43.705 --> 00:32:46.205
the district was gonna make up an information

734
00:32:46.235 --> 00:32:47.285
booklet for people.

735
00:32:47.925 --> 00:32:50.805
I, I think the title was what to do if you Have a Fire.

736
00:32:51.145 --> 00:32:53.125
It did. Yes. Was it done? Mm-hmm.

737
00:32:54.025 --> 00:32:55.805
If it was on the website at one time,

738
00:32:57.545 --> 00:32:59.875
I'll, I'll defer to Ms. Boyd.

739
00:33:00.175 --> 00:33:04.395
We had a, something on the website a year, I think. Yeah.

740
00:33:14.425 --> 00:33:16.555
Good afternoon, Shannon Boyd. Community standards.

741
00:33:16.995 --> 00:33:18.195
I would have to see, look on the

742
00:33:18.195 --> 00:33:19.435
website and see where it is.

743
00:33:19.455 --> 00:33:22.835
But we did have a, a what to do after a fire that Yeah.

744
00:33:23.505 --> 00:33:25.635
That gave a checklist that was on the website,

745
00:33:26.595 --> 00:33:27.595
I remember. Right. That

746
00:33:27.595 --> 00:33:30.715
was kind of, everything has to be generic

747
00:33:30.715 --> 00:33:33.715
because it's on a website and it's not a specific your case.

748
00:33:34.455 --> 00:33:36.835
Uh, but I don't, you know, there was a list

749
00:33:36.835 --> 00:33:39.475
of things you should consider, but there was not a timeline

750
00:33:39.935 --> 00:33:42.075
or something that you're, you're discussing there

751
00:33:42.075 --> 00:33:43.555
that would be most helpful for

752
00:33:44.155 --> 00:33:45.395
somebody at that time to understand.

753
00:33:46.465 --> 00:33:49.595
Yeah. I mean, it's a start. It was a start. Yeah.

754
00:33:49.645 --> 00:33:51.155
We're still working this one.

755
00:33:51.235 --> 00:33:54.075
I think there's one other thing I'd like to ask for.

756
00:33:54.505 --> 00:33:58.035
When you come back with the process that you're proposing,

757
00:33:58.935 --> 00:34:02.275
I'd like for you to put it on the same timeline as one

758
00:34:02.275 --> 00:34:03.715
of these last four that we've had.

759
00:34:04.455 --> 00:34:07.595
And let's see if we solved anything that we had difficulty

760
00:34:07.595 --> 00:34:09.875
with in the, one of those four processes,

761
00:34:10.255 --> 00:34:12.275
how this new procedure would solve that

762
00:34:13.175 --> 00:34:15.035
so we could prevent having it again.

763
00:34:15.675 --> 00:34:17.475
I think that'd be proof that we're doing the right thing

764
00:34:17.895 --> 00:34:20.875
and not just doing something that might not solve a problem.

765
00:34:21.265 --> 00:34:23.035
Okay. And I, and I have a comment.

766
00:34:23.275 --> 00:34:26.915
I, I think somewhere whether we're this document

767
00:34:26.915 --> 00:34:27.915
that would discussing

768
00:34:27.975 --> 00:34:32.595
or somewhere else that we enumerate,

769
00:34:33.625 --> 00:34:36.915
what constitutes the commencement of the rebuild?

770
00:34:37.815 --> 00:34:42.355
You know, is it filing for a permit, uh, you know, applying

771
00:34:42.415 --> 00:34:44.355
for, uh, insurance

772
00:34:44.575 --> 00:34:48.475
or I mean the language

773
00:34:49.475 --> 00:34:51.595
reconstruction, so be able to take it within two months.

774
00:34:51.625 --> 00:34:55.945
What does that mean? I, I think we need to delineate

775
00:34:57.375 --> 00:34:59.745
what four or five or six things actually constitute.

776
00:35:00.245 --> 00:35:02.385
You've actually stopped the process of the rebuild.

777
00:35:05.205 --> 00:35:06.985
That's a good point. I don't know the answer to it.

778
00:35:07.185 --> 00:35:09.225
I, and, and I, the only thing I caution,

779
00:35:09.225 --> 00:35:11.185
and I think it's a good point, I don't want

780
00:35:11.185 --> 00:35:14.345
to make this thing a legal document that, you know,

781
00:35:14.445 --> 00:35:17.105
it takes six lawyers to understand it.

782
00:35:17.625 --> 00:35:19.465
I want a resident to be able to understand it

783
00:35:20.245 --> 00:35:21.345
and no reflection on you.

784
00:35:23.005 --> 00:35:25.345
But you know what I'm saying, if a, if a,

785
00:35:25.785 --> 00:35:27.585
a new resident can't pick up example, you know?

786
00:35:27.775 --> 00:35:29.625
Yeah. It doesn't have to be all occlusive.

787
00:35:29.685 --> 00:35:31.985
No, but you got, you've got a good point.

788
00:35:31.985 --> 00:35:33.265
There's certain things. Yeah.

789
00:35:33.365 --> 00:35:37.765
So we all know what, in fact Yep. As a bare minimum Yep.

790
00:35:38.735 --> 00:35:41.685
Would constitute the commencement of the reconstruction.

791
00:35:42.435 --> 00:35:47.045
Well, yeah. Okay. For me, timing is important.

792
00:35:47.225 --> 00:35:49.045
Now, I'll go back and,

793
00:35:49.305 --> 00:35:52.325
and challenge you to see if I understood you correctly that,

794
00:35:52.745 --> 00:35:55.605
um, there's a house fire today.

795
00:35:56.145 --> 00:35:59.045
And is it the board that has

796
00:35:59.045 --> 00:36:00.365
to initiate the complaint

797
00:36:02.875 --> 00:36:04.205
anymore? The, the fire

798
00:36:04.205 --> 00:36:05.205
Department? No. Anyone, anyone

799
00:36:05.205 --> 00:36:07.405
today can initiate

800
00:36:07.525 --> 00:36:08.645
a complaint regarding a fire.

801
00:36:08.905 --> 00:36:12.485
But if we, what we were trying to do is

802
00:36:13.475 --> 00:36:16.285
significantly expedite that notification process

803
00:36:16.585 --> 00:36:18.605
by taking it from the public safety department,

804
00:36:18.655 --> 00:36:21.925
which would be within 24 hours of it happening. Okay.

805
00:36:22.085 --> 00:36:23.485
I, I thought I heard you say that.

806
00:36:23.485 --> 00:36:24.765
We can't, nothing really happens

807
00:36:24.815 --> 00:36:26.845
until it comes to the board. And that's all I was

808
00:36:27.465 --> 00:36:28.765
To eliminate gaps.

809
00:36:29.225 --> 00:36:32.485
The, the order of enforcement would be put in

810
00:36:32.525 --> 00:36:34.165
by the board at your next meeting,

811
00:36:35.005 --> 00:36:36.045
whatever your next meeting was.

812
00:36:36.145 --> 00:36:37.445
We would get that on the agenda

813
00:36:38.225 --> 00:36:41.965
and we would eliminate all of the letters,

814
00:36:42.425 --> 00:36:43.965
the notification that happens

815
00:36:43.965 --> 00:36:45.805
during the normal deed compliance process,

816
00:36:46.175 --> 00:36:47.605
which is about a 60 day process

817
00:36:47.745 --> 00:36:49.005
before it comes to the board.

818
00:36:49.815 --> 00:36:52.045
Thank you. Well, I still think it's public safety

819
00:36:52.045 --> 00:36:54.245
department that reports that there isn't a fire

820
00:36:54.245 --> 00:36:55.485
around in the villages

821
00:36:55.485 --> 00:36:57.365
that they aren't involved in, in some manner.

822
00:36:57.865 --> 00:36:59.885
So we just make them responsible for

823
00:36:59.885 --> 00:37:01.845
that rather than beating around the bush.

824
00:37:02.115 --> 00:37:04.245
They say, well, I didn't think we were responsible

825
00:37:04.245 --> 00:37:05.405
for it, somebody else could do it.

826
00:37:05.895 --> 00:37:09.565
We're we're, we're adding to the confusion, in my opinion.

827
00:37:09.785 --> 00:37:11.885
So we'll see what you all come back with.

828
00:37:12.955 --> 00:37:14.165
Make it very specific,

829
00:37:15.145 --> 00:37:16.145
Mr. Allow

830
00:37:16.145 --> 00:37:17.805
adequate time with this.

831
00:37:17.945 --> 00:37:21.645
We will need to, to re-notice hearing.

832
00:37:22.145 --> 00:37:24.765
So my recommendation would be that we,

833
00:37:24.905 --> 00:37:29.285
we work on this draft, um, allow between your May

834
00:37:29.385 --> 00:37:31.765
and June meetings to discuss.

835
00:37:31.765 --> 00:37:33.325
Because what happens is if we,

836
00:37:33.325 --> 00:37:34.725
if we discuss again at your May

837
00:37:34.725 --> 00:37:37.445
and you have additional revision where mm-hmm.

838
00:37:37.545 --> 00:37:40.925
So we would, let's look to like the July timeframe

839
00:37:41.025 --> 00:37:43.165
to actually hold the public hearing to amend

840
00:37:43.165 --> 00:37:44.205
and restate. Right.

841
00:37:44.505 --> 00:37:46.125
In my opinion, it's more important

842
00:37:46.125 --> 00:37:48.325
to get it right than it is to get it soon.

843
00:37:48.825 --> 00:37:50.125
So I, I want to get it right.

844
00:37:50.535 --> 00:37:53.725
We've had too much confusion on this subject, in my opinion

845
00:37:54.425 --> 00:37:55.845
in the four fires we've had.

846
00:37:55.905 --> 00:37:58.365
So let's do it right and, you know, we'll get it right.

847
00:37:58.475 --> 00:38:00.525
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

848
00:38:00.665 --> 00:38:02.965
Um, mark, Of course, there's

849
00:38:02.965 --> 00:38:06.565
Been a couple of 'em now that we're in a house burns, um,

850
00:38:07.305 --> 00:38:09.965
and a developer buys their records to rebuild it.

851
00:38:10.475 --> 00:38:13.445
What happens to the property if the developer goes bankrupt?

852
00:38:14.795 --> 00:38:16.005
What do you mean the developer?

853
00:38:17.075 --> 00:38:18.485
Well, the, the person that's going to

854
00:38:18.485 --> 00:38:19.485
Rebuild it. So

855
00:38:19.485 --> 00:38:21.525
if someone buys the property

856
00:38:21.545 --> 00:38:23.325
and that someone is a, a company

857
00:38:24.355 --> 00:38:25.355
Yeah.

858
00:38:25.465 --> 00:38:27.325
And they failed to rebuild. Yeah.

859
00:38:28.585 --> 00:38:30.725
Um, I think at that point in time, the only

860
00:38:31.455 --> 00:38:33.045
thing you can do, um,

861
00:38:33.465 --> 00:38:34.925
or a property owner could do, would be

862
00:38:34.925 --> 00:38:36.485
to file a lawsuit similar to

863
00:38:36.485 --> 00:38:39.405
what we're doing right now on the, is it s wood, sir?

864
00:38:39.555 --> 00:38:42.925
That property that to have a judge enter an order to require

865
00:38:42.925 --> 00:38:44.645
that they abide by the deed

866
00:38:44.645 --> 00:38:45.885
restrictions and the district's rule.

867
00:38:45.885 --> 00:38:47.405
And that is to rebuild the property.

868
00:38:48.155 --> 00:38:50.725
Even I'm not familiar with Florida bankruptcy laws,

869
00:38:50.795 --> 00:38:53.045
even if they're bankruptcy, if they

870
00:38:53.045 --> 00:38:55.965
Bank, if they file for bankruptcy. Yeah. That becomes

871
00:38:56.525 --> 00:38:57.525
A huge problem. Then

872
00:38:57.525 --> 00:38:58.485
you're in line receiver

873
00:38:58.505 --> 00:39:00.005
And it sits for God knows how long.

874
00:39:00.075 --> 00:39:01.565
Yeah. Then you have problems.

875
00:39:02.105 --> 00:39:03.925
That's what I was afraid of. Thank you.

876
00:39:06.105 --> 00:39:09.085
And just, uh, go to step one complaints.

877
00:39:09.465 --> 00:39:12.365
Um, and I talked with, uh, Ms. Wilson about this.

878
00:39:12.905 --> 00:39:16.805
Um, it, it's kind of confusing the way it's written.

879
00:39:17.425 --> 00:39:20.645
Uh, talking about getting the complainant's unit

880
00:39:20.645 --> 00:39:22.605
number, uh, verified.

881
00:39:22.605 --> 00:39:24.285
They assure they're in district nine

882
00:39:25.065 --> 00:39:27.125
and, uh, it could be public record.

883
00:39:27.625 --> 00:39:30.045
Uh, I did not know that there would,

884
00:39:30.615 --> 00:39:33.845
could be more than one home in a unit number.

885
00:39:34.425 --> 00:39:36.605
And I doubt that the individual would know.

886
00:39:36.665 --> 00:39:38.405
So that I, I looked at that

887
00:39:38.405 --> 00:39:40.525
and I thought, oh, that means we've gotten rid

888
00:39:40.525 --> 00:39:41.685
of anonymous complaints.

889
00:39:42.445 --> 00:39:44.605
'cause I thought the unit number was my house.

890
00:39:45.305 --> 00:39:49.725
And so that would be, so I, I think in, in, in, in her reply

891
00:39:49.725 --> 00:39:53.085
to me, she included some language I think would help that,

892
00:39:53.265 --> 00:39:57.165
uh, slim it down to unit number is not specific.

893
00:39:57.315 --> 00:40:00.725
Explain that unit number does not give away your anonymity.

894
00:40:03.555 --> 00:40:05.605
Okay. We can take that into consideration

895
00:40:05.665 --> 00:40:06.965
as well when we Yeah.

896
00:40:07.165 --> 00:40:08.365
I repeat this one enough

897
00:40:08.425 --> 00:40:12.405
or we Okay.

898
00:40:12.995 --> 00:40:14.605
Alright. So, so we'll work on that

899
00:40:14.665 --> 00:40:15.845
and we'll have a rewrite.

900
00:40:15.845 --> 00:40:17.845
We'll communicate. Okay, good. The information back out

901
00:40:17.865 --> 00:40:19.845
And, and supervisor, if you have any input,

902
00:40:19.845 --> 00:40:22.165
please get it into to Trinity

903
00:40:22.185 --> 00:40:24.445
so we can get this thing right. Okay.

904
00:40:25.015 --> 00:40:28.285
Thank You. Thank you. Okay.

905
00:40:28.315 --> 00:40:28.605
Next,

906
00:40:30.345 --> 00:40:35.165
um, information items.

907
00:40:35.265 --> 00:40:36.265
Are we,

908
00:40:37.945 --> 00:40:38.945
Yes. You have five?

909
00:40:38.945 --> 00:40:40.045
Yeah.

910
00:40:40.785 --> 00:40:44.165
Um, items five A through five E are included as, uh,

911
00:40:44.165 --> 00:40:45.205
informational items.

912
00:40:45.385 --> 00:40:47.645
But if you have any questions, we're happy to address them.

913
00:40:50.305 --> 00:40:53.965
Any comments or questions? Okay.

914
00:40:55.045 --> 00:40:55.565
DMP

915
00:41:01.855 --> 00:41:02.725
going down to six

916
00:41:04.225 --> 00:41:05.565
For district management report.

917
00:41:05.865 --> 00:41:07.485
Yes. Um,

918
00:41:07.485 --> 00:41:09.125
so the first item included is the

919
00:41:09.125 --> 00:41:11.445
2024 district annual report.

920
00:41:11.865 --> 00:41:14.805
Um, so we are, we're excited to have that, uh, published

921
00:41:14.805 --> 00:41:16.165
and sent out to each of you.

922
00:41:16.585 --> 00:41:18.445
Um, we will be getting hard copies made,

923
00:41:18.465 --> 00:41:21.445
but it was an opportunity to highlight the activities

924
00:41:21.505 --> 00:41:24.845
of each of the boards and all of the district departments

925
00:41:25.025 --> 00:41:27.645
and staff, um, and with your support, um,

926
00:41:27.645 --> 00:41:28.965
accomplishing all those items.

927
00:41:29.105 --> 00:41:32.045
So we hope you have had an opportunity to review,

928
00:41:33.225 --> 00:41:34.925
um, starting next year.

929
00:41:35.585 --> 00:41:38.125
Um, we will be reporting on the goals

930
00:41:38.125 --> 00:41:40.685
and objectives that you, uh, adopted.

931
00:41:40.865 --> 00:41:43.605
So we will include each individual district portion

932
00:41:43.825 --> 00:41:45.565
and report on the goals and objectives

933
00:41:45.585 --> 00:41:48.365
and have that on each individual district website as well.

934
00:41:49.275 --> 00:41:52.325
Okay. Good. Um,

935
00:41:52.395 --> 00:41:53.395
Good report, I thought. Oh,

936
00:41:53.395 --> 00:41:57.485
thank you. Um, and the next item is a CCO update.

937
00:41:57.865 --> 00:42:00.125
Um, so I know it was very short timing, um,

938
00:42:00.125 --> 00:42:03.125
but we did email that information out yesterday, um,

939
00:42:03.275 --> 00:42:04.645
upon receipt from cco.

940
00:42:05.185 --> 00:42:08.245
Um, just so you understand, the original estimates

941
00:42:08.245 --> 00:42:11.445
that were included in your, your budget, um,

942
00:42:12.465 --> 00:42:15.845
it encompassed the electricity expenses and the pole rental.

943
00:42:16.585 --> 00:42:19.845
Um, but the documentation you received from CCO just

944
00:42:19.845 --> 00:42:21.845
addressed the pole rental increase.

945
00:42:22.665 --> 00:42:25.725
The documents that you received yesterday include both

946
00:42:26.125 --> 00:42:28.405
expenses as one line item.

947
00:42:29.145 --> 00:42:32.005
So that would be your total electricity expense

948
00:42:32.825 --> 00:42:35.285
and your pole rental expense, which is not

949
00:42:35.285 --> 00:42:36.485
how it was presented before,

950
00:42:36.545 --> 00:42:38.525
but just, just so you're aware of that.

951
00:42:39.385 --> 00:42:41.685
Um, and they also included the information on there

952
00:42:41.985 --> 00:42:44.885
for their teams meeting that they've scheduled for May 2nd.

953
00:42:45.745 --> 00:42:48.205
Um, so it will be held virtually,

954
00:42:48.265 --> 00:42:51.725
but it will be an opportunity for all board supervisors, um,

955
00:42:51.865 --> 00:42:54.365
to attend and ask any questions that you may have.

956
00:42:55.145 --> 00:42:57.245
Is there any further catch up with them?

957
00:42:57.705 --> 00:42:59.485
Are we from the past,

958
00:43:00.465 --> 00:43:04.725
or, I'm not saying that correctly,

959
00:43:04.745 --> 00:43:07.005
but we're in a catch up on the polls.

960
00:43:07.625 --> 00:43:09.125
So currently they,

961
00:43:09.195 --> 00:43:12.805
they had split their increase 50% this current year

962
00:43:12.945 --> 00:43:16.405
and 50% starting October 1st, 2025.

963
00:43:16.715 --> 00:43:19.485
Okay. So you're paying 50% of that increase.

964
00:43:20.305 --> 00:43:23.365
The document that you received will be the full expense

965
00:43:23.435 --> 00:43:26.765
that you will be paying as of October 1st, 2025.

966
00:43:27.025 --> 00:43:31.045
2025, yes. Annually going out, yes.

967
00:43:32.475 --> 00:43:33.475
Okay.

968
00:43:34.395 --> 00:43:38.005
That encompassed any type of increase or reduction. Yes.

969
00:43:38.005 --> 00:43:41.445
Yes. But in all instances it was lower than originally

970
00:43:41.515 --> 00:43:45.925
estimated, but it's still,

971
00:43:45.945 --> 00:43:48.285
it is ultimately still an increase. Yeah,

972
00:43:48.795 --> 00:43:49.795
It's an increased us.

973
00:43:50.315 --> 00:43:52.565
What, what do you think the chances are of a reduction?

974
00:43:53.815 --> 00:43:56.765
Stand by. Okay.

975
00:44:00.715 --> 00:44:05.245
Okay. Counsel. Counsel.

976
00:44:05.945 --> 00:44:10.805
No reports. Okay. Okay.

977
00:44:10.905 --> 00:44:13.005
Any other? Well, project wide.

978
00:44:18.035 --> 00:44:18.325
Okay.

979
00:44:18.425 --> 00:44:22.205
Um, the main thing, uh, from this, we,

980
00:44:23.195 --> 00:44:27.765
they've, uh, sole sourced the PGA, uh, review

981
00:44:27.765 --> 00:44:29.405
of our golf courses, et cetera.

982
00:44:29.905 --> 00:44:31.805
Uh, so their agronomy plan,

983
00:44:31.805 --> 00:44:33.165
they'll come out about once a quarter.

984
00:44:33.575 --> 00:44:37.005
Their program has been helping, uh, rejuvenate our courses

985
00:44:37.785 --> 00:44:40.685
and, uh, expect a continued improvement with, uh,

986
00:44:40.685 --> 00:44:43.325
their consultation, uh, on there.

987
00:44:44.185 --> 00:44:46.245
And the other big item, uh,

988
00:44:47.535 --> 00:44:51.005
there was a supervisor from one of the, uh, districts

989
00:44:51.005 --> 00:44:55.885
that wanted to make RPMs a project wide, uh, activity.

990
00:44:56.625 --> 00:44:59.805
Uh, the budget would not be shared by everybody

991
00:44:59.805 --> 00:45:01.285
because, uh, district eight

992
00:45:01.345 --> 00:45:05.605
and 11, uh, do not have paths that would require RPMs.

993
00:45:06.145 --> 00:45:10.845
But, uh, at the next meeting, they will be, uh, looking

994
00:45:11.105 --> 00:45:14.485
for concurrence from the boards if they would agree

995
00:45:14.485 --> 00:45:16.165
to have RPMs installed.

996
00:45:16.825 --> 00:45:21.565
And I believe, uh, from the, uh, past, uh,

997
00:45:21.565 --> 00:45:23.165
discussion on this, it was the feeling

998
00:45:23.425 --> 00:45:25.005
of the board members here

999
00:45:25.005 --> 00:45:28.605
that they would support having the RPMs installed within

1000
00:45:29.045 --> 00:45:30.365
district uh, nine.

1001
00:45:30.465 --> 00:45:31.485
And I just want to check

1002
00:45:31.485 --> 00:45:34.525
and make sure nobody has changed their mind on that.

1003
00:45:38.105 --> 00:45:39.325
I'm good with It. Okay.

1004
00:45:39.625 --> 00:45:42.845
Uh, the cost is, uh, Ms. Wilson said was around

1005
00:45:42.845 --> 00:45:45.405
that $7,900 for that activity.

1006
00:45:45.865 --> 00:45:48.125
Uh, so just wanted to make sure that was an okay thing.

1007
00:45:48.125 --> 00:45:51.925
So I will take that forward to the, uh, next, uh,

1008
00:45:52.045 --> 00:45:53.445
PA meeting where that will come up.

1009
00:45:54.995 --> 00:45:58.885
Will the, uh, multimodal path group continue to

1010
00:46:00.035 --> 00:46:03.485
meet and discuss Multimodal?

1011
00:46:03.485 --> 00:46:06.005
Does, does. There's, there's a meeting next Tuesday at

1012
00:46:06.005 --> 00:46:07.525
which I will be in attendance.

1013
00:46:07.905 --> 00:46:10.765
Mm-hmm. And, and what, what is the pur I mean, the future,

1014
00:46:10.825 --> 00:46:13.165
is it just, what's the agenda?

1015
00:46:15.635 --> 00:46:17.245
Well, the continuing discussion,

1016
00:46:17.305 --> 00:46:20.125
but the recommendation that they would make is

1017
00:46:20.125 --> 00:46:21.565
that they go with the IRPs.

1018
00:46:21.825 --> 00:46:23.205
Oh, no, I didn't mean that. I'm sorry.

1019
00:46:23.585 --> 00:46:26.965
But after they do the RPMs, is there gonna be multimodal,

1020
00:46:27.225 --> 00:46:29.045
uh, discussion group?

1021
00:46:29.505 --> 00:46:31.845
Yes. And what are they going to be discussing?

1022
00:46:32.595 --> 00:46:34.965
Well, if they do the RPMs, that

1023
00:46:35.105 --> 00:46:39.005
and other potential safety issues other than the RPMs.

1024
00:46:39.075 --> 00:46:41.005
Okay. Well, the, the reason I'm asking

1025
00:46:41.005 --> 00:46:44.245
that is I've asked this question several times and,

1026
00:46:44.345 --> 00:46:46.125
and we've never come up with that.

1027
00:46:46.625 --> 00:46:48.685
Who is responsible for monitoring

1028
00:46:49.225 --> 00:46:53.125
the speed limits on the multimodal paths and enforcing it?

1029
00:46:54.115 --> 00:46:57.235
I take, they put the district put out a nice book booklet

1030
00:46:57.295 --> 00:47:01.395
not too long ago on the multimodal paths and golf carts.

1031
00:47:01.935 --> 00:47:06.315
But we're getting to a point where electric bicycles, uh,

1032
00:47:07.185 --> 00:47:11.955
golf carts, walkers, joggers, uh, there needs to be some,

1033
00:47:11.975 --> 00:47:13.355
uh, enforcement of speed limits.

1034
00:47:14.055 --> 00:47:17.115
We put all the multi, uh, speed bumps

1035
00:47:17.115 --> 00:47:18.915
and all we want along there reflectors.

1036
00:47:19.415 --> 00:47:21.355
But as long as people are going, you know,

1037
00:47:21.355 --> 00:47:22.835
30 miles an hour on a bicycle

1038
00:47:23.135 --> 00:47:25.235
or 30 miles an hour on in their golf cart,

1039
00:47:25.525 --> 00:47:27.115
we're gonna have safety problems.

1040
00:47:27.575 --> 00:47:30.885
So I just, I just wonder if that's gonna be one of the

1041
00:47:31.465 --> 00:47:33.085
topics for the multimodal.

1042
00:47:33.565 --> 00:47:35.245
I don't have answers for it, obviously.

1043
00:47:35.515 --> 00:47:37.685
Well, the multimodal is basically an un

1044
00:47:37.875 --> 00:47:39.485
unregulated private property.

1045
00:47:39.595 --> 00:47:41.565
Yeah. As far as the electric bikes,

1046
00:47:41.565 --> 00:47:43.085
they're not regulated anywhere.

1047
00:47:43.385 --> 00:47:46.565
Um, uh, I saw one on the road, I ended up talking

1048
00:47:46.665 --> 00:47:49.605
to the owner that he can hit about 40 miles an hour.

1049
00:47:49.635 --> 00:47:51.645
Yeah. He needs no insurance, no license,

1050
00:47:51.985 --> 00:47:52.985
No helmet. Nope.

1051
00:47:52.985 --> 00:47:53.965
I, I agree.

1052
00:47:53.965 --> 00:47:56.565
And I, it's, to me it's accidents waiting to happen

1053
00:47:56.905 --> 00:47:59.645
and we're worried about putting reflective, uh,

1054
00:47:59.955 --> 00:48:01.125
pads down periodically.

1055
00:48:01.245 --> 00:48:04.565
I just, you know, so

1056
00:48:05.595 --> 00:48:06.645
good luck on that one.

1057
00:48:07.615 --> 00:48:10.085
Thank you. One more item. Your point's

1058
00:48:10.085 --> 00:48:11.085
Good. But that's something that can come

1059
00:48:11.085 --> 00:48:12.765
out of the committee if,

1060
00:48:13.025 --> 00:48:14.365
if they take that to heart.

1061
00:48:14.365 --> 00:48:15.845
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just what is our purpose

1062
00:48:16.025 --> 00:48:18.725
and can we make suggestions

1063
00:48:18.865 --> 00:48:20.805
or, you know, do feasibility study, whatever,

1064
00:48:20.805 --> 00:48:23.085
but something needs to be done. Right.

1065
00:48:23.665 --> 00:48:27.725
And there was one item on the, uh, on the next PA as far

1066
00:48:27.725 --> 00:48:29.205
as these RPMs go.

1067
00:48:29.665 --> 00:48:32.845
Uh, the last study that was done on that was actually

1068
00:48:32.865 --> 00:48:36.805
for striping, uh, back about 2015 or 2016.

1069
00:48:37.345 --> 00:48:40.525
Uh, so the board asked for, uh, Kimberly Horn

1070
00:48:40.525 --> 00:48:44.005
to do a study on, uh, effectiveness of

1071
00:48:44.555 --> 00:48:45.765
RPMs, uh, there.

1072
00:48:45.865 --> 00:48:49.205
So they, uh, Mr. Brown said that should only take a couple

1073
00:48:49.205 --> 00:48:50.525
of weeks to get there.

1074
00:48:50.665 --> 00:48:53.405
So that study results will be looked at

1075
00:48:53.425 --> 00:48:54.605
at the next PA meeting.

1076
00:48:55.795 --> 00:49:00.565
Okay. Okay. There'll always be something with them.

1077
00:49:00.575 --> 00:49:04.245
Multimodal paths, I think probably. Yeah. Okay.

1078
00:49:05.225 --> 00:49:09.965
Uh, next topic. I guess it's mine.

1079
00:49:10.545 --> 00:49:11.605
Mm-hmm. Yes. Mr.

1080
00:49:11.845 --> 00:49:14.285
Chairman, you had requested the maintenance assessment

1081
00:49:14.315 --> 00:49:15.565
information be included on

1082
00:49:15.565 --> 00:49:16.565
That. About a year ago,

1083
00:49:16.565 --> 00:49:16.725
somebody

1084
00:49:16.905 --> 00:49:21.805
and the district gave me a, uh, a chart that showed the, uh,

1085
00:49:21.805 --> 00:49:23.405
maintenance assessments and what percent

1086
00:49:23.405 --> 00:49:26.005
of the budget in each district was being covered

1087
00:49:26.025 --> 00:49:27.285
by maintenance assessments.

1088
00:49:28.005 --> 00:49:29.525
I thought it was a very interesting chart.

1089
00:49:29.605 --> 00:49:30.725
I wanted to share it with everybody.

1090
00:49:30.745 --> 00:49:34.005
If you haven't seen it, it's in here, I think in the packet.

1091
00:49:34.355 --> 00:49:36.725
Okay. Is it in the packet? It

1092
00:49:36.725 --> 00:49:37.725
Is, yes. It's included

1093
00:49:37.725 --> 00:49:38.565
as an attachment.

1094
00:49:39.505 --> 00:49:42.165
So it is just interesting that some people cover

1095
00:49:43.045 --> 00:49:46.245
a hundred percent of their ma of their fee, of their, uh,

1096
00:49:46.245 --> 00:49:48.645
maintenance budget, their operating budget list, I'm sorry,

1097
00:49:48.945 --> 00:49:49.965
by their maintenance fees.

1098
00:49:50.505 --> 00:49:54.285
Others cover down to 60, 70 per 50%.

1099
00:49:55.175 --> 00:49:59.285
We're fortunate that we, in our financial position that we,

1100
00:49:59.745 --> 00:50:01.885
we can not have to require.

1101
00:50:02.225 --> 00:50:03.965
But if you had a, a balanced budget,

1102
00:50:03.965 --> 00:50:06.125
which I'm a big supporter of, uh,

1103
00:50:06.455 --> 00:50:08.285
you'd have your maintenance fees would be a lot higher

1104
00:50:08.285 --> 00:50:12.125
because our operating budget has gotten significantly larger

1105
00:50:12.665 --> 00:50:14.085
and it's going to continue to grow.

1106
00:50:15.565 --> 00:50:17.745
So that, that's why I wanted to show that to you.

1107
00:50:17.805 --> 00:50:19.505
The other thing I wanted to say is,

1108
00:50:19.645 --> 00:50:22.425
if we have anything today that we want to give guidance

1109
00:50:22.525 --> 00:50:26.785
to the district about the budget for, uh, next year

1110
00:50:27.665 --> 00:50:31.245
may we'll get our first, uh, whack at, uh, at the budget.

1111
00:50:31.865 --> 00:50:34.125
And I know we've asked for ways we could

1112
00:50:34.125 --> 00:50:35.405
reduce the maintenance assessment.

1113
00:50:36.365 --> 00:50:39.125
I mean, but there may be other inputs that you wanna make

1114
00:50:39.545 --> 00:50:41.325
to the district, uh, for the budget.

1115
00:50:41.665 --> 00:50:44.565
Uh, what, what if now that would be a good time

1116
00:50:44.565 --> 00:50:46.605
to do it rather than wait until after May

1117
00:50:46.625 --> 00:50:48.725
and we get further down the pipe.

1118
00:50:49.665 --> 00:50:51.405
Yes. And, and certainly, um,

1119
00:50:51.625 --> 00:50:53.205
you can always email us as well.

1120
00:50:53.265 --> 00:50:54.485
So if there's any questions

1121
00:50:54.545 --> 00:50:58.485
or, um, ideas that you have that you'd like to reach out,

1122
00:50:58.585 --> 00:51:00.365
um, you can communicate with me

1123
00:51:00.385 --> 00:51:03.365
or Ms. Cook, um, to make sure it's incorporated in

1124
00:51:03.365 --> 00:51:05.725
that may, may presentation.

1125
00:51:05.845 --> 00:51:08.245
I think, as I said before, I think one of our primary

1126
00:51:09.485 --> 00:51:11.165
responsibilities as a committee is

1127
00:51:11.165 --> 00:51:13.165
to give guidance on the budget.

1128
00:51:13.625 --> 00:51:16.205
And we still haven't gotten ahead of that curve.

1129
00:51:16.255 --> 00:51:18.005
We're still a little behind it, I think

1130
00:51:18.565 --> 00:51:21.925
'cause you're gonna be putting together, uh, proposed

1131
00:51:22.025 --> 00:51:24.245
or not proposed, but a preliminary budget.

1132
00:51:24.585 --> 00:51:26.125
We haven't given you much input on it.

1133
00:51:26.385 --> 00:51:29.365
So if anybody has anything, I'd solicit it

1134
00:51:29.365 --> 00:51:31.165
to get it in now or whatever.

1135
00:51:32.265 --> 00:51:34.485
Uh, do we, I I think we did last year.

1136
00:51:34.585 --> 00:51:38.205
We have, uh, if we do a decrease, you'll show a, uh,

1137
00:51:38.295 --> 00:51:40.005
bleed down of the reserves.

1138
00:51:40.645 --> 00:51:42.325
'cause we are funding out

1139
00:51:42.325 --> 00:51:46.405
of reserves on a certain portion, uh, of items. Yeah.

1140
00:51:46.685 --> 00:51:48.445
I hope we can put, we can fund it out

1141
00:51:48.445 --> 00:51:50.885
of our reserve income mm-hmm.

1142
00:51:50.965 --> 00:51:51.965
Rather than reserves.

1143
00:51:52.835 --> 00:51:54.405
Yeah. Yeah. But if, if we can't,

1144
00:51:54.625 --> 00:51:55.645
we need to see what that's,

1145
00:51:57.665 --> 00:51:59.325
You gotta, so show the sources.

1146
00:52:02.035 --> 00:52:04.845
Okay. Any other supervisor comments?

1147
00:52:06.115 --> 00:52:09.895
Well, I, I'm gonna be submitting a, um, proposal

1148
00:52:09.995 --> 00:52:13.335
to amend one of the, uh, rules.

1149
00:52:13.715 --> 00:52:17.335
Um, and I can provide it to, um, Ms. Evans.

1150
00:52:17.695 --> 00:52:21.535
I don't know if I need to specify now what, what it is, um,

1151
00:52:21.605 --> 00:52:24.415
what rule it is, but I I what I'd like to have it added

1152
00:52:24.475 --> 00:52:25.855
to the many agenda.

1153
00:52:26.485 --> 00:52:29.455
It'd be nice if you'd share, I think now, I'm sorry,

1154
00:52:29.695 --> 00:52:31.695
I think it'd be nice if you'd share with us now.

1155
00:52:32.125 --> 00:52:35.175
Well, it's a proposal to amend one

1156
00:52:35.175 --> 00:52:36.815
of the general procedures and rules.

1157
00:52:37.085 --> 00:52:39.855
It's, uh, rule 1.5, meeting

1158
00:52:39.875 --> 00:52:42.975
and workshops, subsection tens, the reconsideration

1159
00:52:43.675 --> 00:52:45.215
of action previously taken.

1160
00:52:46.965 --> 00:52:49.175
I'll draft it up at a, an amendment to that.

1161
00:52:55.455 --> 00:52:57.015
I guess it's not prob Can we see that ahead

1162
00:52:57.015 --> 00:52:58.215
of time? I, yeah. I mean,

1163
00:52:58.875 --> 00:52:59.875
Yes. So mi mr.

1164
00:52:59.875 --> 00:53:01.935
Chairman, we'll, we'll get that information

1165
00:53:02.115 --> 00:53:05.335
and review with counsel as well to cross reference any type

1166
00:53:05.335 --> 00:53:07.655
of statutory items in the,

1167
00:53:07.655 --> 00:53:09.055
in the general and procedural rules.

1168
00:53:09.355 --> 00:53:11.455
And you'll send it to us or something till we

1169
00:53:12.035 --> 00:53:13.035
Yes. We'll send it out

1170
00:53:13.035 --> 00:53:14.135
in advance. Mm-hmm.

1171
00:53:14.905 --> 00:53:16.655
Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

1172
00:53:19.315 --> 00:53:21.375
In fact, I can give a copy of the council on that one

1173
00:53:21.395 --> 00:53:22.455
to the sevens now.

1174
00:53:22.485 --> 00:53:26.005
Okay. Okay.

1175
00:53:26.145 --> 00:53:31.125
Any supervisor comments? Brown? No. Okay.

1176
00:53:31.725 --> 00:53:33.565
I will not be here for the next meeting.

1177
00:53:34.345 --> 00:53:37.365
Uh, I'll be in, uh, Virginia at my

1178
00:53:37.925 --> 00:53:39.445
grandson's college graduation, so.

1179
00:53:39.465 --> 00:53:44.365
Oh, good. Okay. We'll have fun.

1180
00:53:45.105 --> 00:53:46.965
I'd make a motion we adjourn. Second.

1181
00:53:46.965 --> 00:53:49.845
Motion been made in second. All in favor? A aye.

1182
00:53:50.985 --> 00:53:53.725
Motion passed. That'll be fine. I got Pwac Adjo.