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Silence for those who have given their lives for our country, and let's keep

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in mind those who are currently on the way.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United

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States of America, and

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to the Republic for which it stands, one

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nation, under God,

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indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

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I guess I should have called the roll to begin with.

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I'm sorry, Jennifer, but let the record show that all members are in attendance.

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I'd like to welcome our meeting attendees.

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Thank you for joining us this morning.

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We're now ready for audience comments.

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If anyone would like to speak to the board, please go to the podium, give your

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name and address, then you'll have three minutes.

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Okay.

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Carmen Atkinson.

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I live at 2108 Salas Place in

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the Villages, the

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Santo Domingo.

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And my husband tore down some bushes, and we

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noticed some stair-stepping in our stucco home.

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And so therefore, we knew we would have to

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paint. And me being the woman that I am, I wanted to paint it

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a different color.

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And so I went to the board,

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the architectural review board. And the colors that I

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chose are

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approved, are these, and I'll pass this around.

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The color that did not get approved was the color of the garage door.

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And ma'am, if you provide these to the board, we do have to keep them.

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It's a matter of public record.

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To whom?

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To the chair.

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To the chair. Okay.

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There's the color of the house.

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Ma'am, you have to get on the record and speak so they can pick it up.

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So what I submitted to the chair is the colors

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of the base of the house and the trim, and

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the color of the garage door and the front door, the arches.

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So what he's looking at is pictures of the

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surrounding area and my neighborhood of

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homes that are beautifully...

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They're just beautiful.

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It's the same colors that I chose was

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Citizens Bank, the colors of

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the hospitals, Spanish Springs Hospital.

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It's that same

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terracotta, a trim, and a base tone, a real

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light, soft green tone. And

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so I wanted to stay within the boundaries of

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Santo Domingo area and Spanish Springs area, and that's why I chose these

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colors. So I'm hoping that I could get an approval

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today with a letter that you accept those colors

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so I could move on and get my home repaired

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and repainted. Thank you.

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But you said that the colors of the house were

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approved, but it was the garage, so it's only the garage?

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It's a garage door. Yeah. I have that form right here as well.

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And Mr. Chair, if I may, I think if

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you can have Ms. Shannon Boyd with Community

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Standards come up, the problem is in a stipulation on the paint

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palettes that you can't

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commingle different palettes, or that

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you can only have two colors. So if we can have Ms.

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Boyd come up and explain what the rules are, and then

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we don't

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issue exceptions or variances for one

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individual. What you would have to do if you wanted to

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approve this is approve it, a change to the palettes moving

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forward for everybody. So if I can have Ms.

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Boyd come forward and explain what the current rule is,

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and then you can discuss whether or not you'd like to change it.

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Certainly. Thank you.

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I have a question.

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It's my understanding that District II does not have a paint palette, and that's

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why we have approvals

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at ARC for every color.

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That's correct.

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Also, I'd like to make a note that Santo Domingo is

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a Spanish name, and the architecture

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is Spanish, and Spanish colors tend to

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be a little bit more bold than other places.

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And I know when I was on the ARC board, we've approved certain

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things that

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probably might not have been looked at if you were in Mallory, but

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in Santo Domingo, they seem to be fine, and they fit.

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I looked at the colors, and I didn't see any particular objection to the

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darker

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color on the garage door. I've seen others like it. So those are my comments.

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Okay. And let's have Ms. Boyd speak to us about it.

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Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

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Good morning.

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So your current ARC manual, it states in there that

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architectural approval is not required for garage door painting

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as long as the color is within the hue range of the base and trim

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colors of the home. So that's

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currently how your manual reads. That is to prevent

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residents from, for example, painting a house

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maybe tan with white trim and then having a purple garage door.

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So that's why it's within the base and trim hue range.

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I believe what this resident is

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Speaking of is going with a totally different color than what's

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within the hue range

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of the base and trim color. I'm not familiar with her application or her

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paint color, so I can't speak on her specific

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application.

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Mm-hmm.

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But what you're saying, though, is that

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apparently the ARC did not approve the color.

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If that's my understanding. It went to the ARC board, and they

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approved the paint color for the house but not the garage door.

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And I think that's the reason she's here today, is to get some understanding

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of whether or not that garage door color might be something

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that she might be able to take back to the ARC and have it re-looked

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at. Which would probably be my recommendation.

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Her denial was because it was not within the hue range of the base and

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trim colors of the home. It was not the specific color.

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Mm-hmm.

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And that's why

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we have, in District 2, the

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supervisors, there must be approval,

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it's her right to come here and talk to us about it.

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And in order to

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do that and stay within the Santo Domingo colors, I don't think that

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anything is in a purple. It's in terracotta, a tan,

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and a soft, muted green, like almost

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a sage green. The color palette,

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I hope you take a look at. It's not a purple.

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It's going to be a very beautiful accent to our

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neighborhood, and it represents the

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community that I live in, the hospital, once again, the banks.

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It's within this Santo Domingo

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theme

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and all that. It's not a bold choice.

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I heard that

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today. It's not a bold choice. I think

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it's going to complement our neighborhood very much in our

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cul-de-sac.

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Did you appear at the ARC meeting?

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I did not. I work at Sammy Jo's, and so I did not.

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Ma'am, the

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garage door, is that in contrast with the house painting?

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Is that-

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Right now? Oh, the house paint is going to be that

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terracotta. The trim will be in a beige, and the garage door will be in that

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green tone that I passed to the board.

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What color will the house be eventually?

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Terracotta.

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So-

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That got approved and so did the trim because it

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was in the

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colors.

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So again, your rule that applies to everybody within District

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2 is that it has to be within the same hue range.

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So the house and the trim are approved-

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Yes

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... but green is not in the same hue range as terracotta

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or the trim color.

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So therefore, I'm asking the board if I could write a letter

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to where these paint colors

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would get approved back in Brownwood, and if I could have that

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letter, I could proceed to get my

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stucco home repaired, repainted, and

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move forward on this. If I have your approval.

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Are you done painting the house yet?

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No, I haven't started-

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You need to start

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... because I really love these colors, and I really want to stick with

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it. If it was up to my husband, he'd go, "Carmen, don't

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fight this." But I really love these

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colors. I love it. It's all throughout The

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Villages.

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So what is the problem if the house is not even painted yet, whether they've

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approved the colors or not?

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The issue is not the color of the paint of the house.

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That's correct.

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That has been approved. This board can't send a letter to

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anyone approving anything. You have an ARC committee, architectural review

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committee, that consists of more than just the District 2 appointee.

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There's individuals from other districts there as well.

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And ARC has denied the application, at least as it relates, from what I understand,

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to the garage door because of the issue with the paint.

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So as mentioned earlier by Ms. Duckett, if you want to permit this sort of

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color, then you need to change your ARC manual, but it would be applicable to

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everybody.

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Sure. Jim.

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Good. One second.

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Mr. Kennedy.

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All right.

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Ma'am, I don't want to be rude or anything at all, but I don't think

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Citizens Bank, the hospital, or anything else has any bearing on your neighborhood

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itself.

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And number two is exactly what the attorney said is,

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the young lady over there came up and told you what the rules are.

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So we

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can't just write a letter for you to bring to them to say, "Oh, the

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supervisors said change it." Because then next month,

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Mary Alice is going to come up and say, "Write a letter so we can change it again."

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That's the rule.

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No, I understand what-

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Okay. Well, that's the rule, and it seems so

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cut and dry that your color is not

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in with the trim. And I understand you like the color,

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that's why there's so many various colors, but

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that's your problem right there.

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Yes, and I would like to have you take a look at

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the...

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Maybe you could change your

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bylaws on that. Would that be possible?

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So that we-

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... so that the people buying their dream home in The Villages could proceed

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with,

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not a purple.

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Of course, there'd have to be exceptions to the rules.

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If I was on the board, I would disagree with the purple and

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whatever in a home, but

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a bold... Go ahead.

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Ma'am, I'm going to make a suggestion to you.

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Yes.

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Having sat on the ARC board for about eight years, I'm aware of what goes on,

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and I know that there are certain people on the ARC board that have their

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own opinions. They differ. It's like lawyers, they always

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have different opinions on things, too.

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My suggestion to you would be as follows.

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I would make a slight modification to your colors, lighting it up a little bit,

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keeping the same color, but maybe not as dark

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as you have.

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Go reapply to the ARC board and

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see if that passes. That would be my recommendation to you.

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Okay. Thank you.

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I think that's the next approach that you should take.

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All right. Thanks for your time.

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Thank you for appearing.

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Uh-huh.

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Anyone else from the audience who would like to address the board on any particular

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topic?

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Anyone else?

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Okay, we'll move on to new business.

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We need approval of the March 13th, 2026

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minutes.

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Motion made to approve.

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Motion by Tom, second by Jim. Any discussion?

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? Carried.

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Okay, we are set for public hearings.

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Yes, sir. The first is case number VCDD number two

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versus...

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I'm sorry. This is off a little bit.

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Case number D205-26, Village Community Development District

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number two versus the estate of Donald R.

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Bilodeau, 1715 Madero Drive.

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Okay.

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A quick overview of the public hearing process.

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In public hearings, the Board of Supervisors acts as both the judge and jury.

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In that capacity, the board will consider evidence, make findings of fact, and draw

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conclusions of law. During the hearing, the board may only receive evidence from

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the property owner, district staff, and those that will be substantially and

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directly affected by the outcome of the board's decision.

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At the conclusion of the hearing, the board will need to determine whether staff

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presented competent substantial evidence to support a finding of the alleged

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violation, and if so, the board must enter an order of enforcement against the

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property owner. If there's anyone here to testify to this case, would you please

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stand and raise your right hand?

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If we're going to have witness testimony, you're going to have to provide a

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witness who will sit in that chair.

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Yes, thank you.

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We will open the public hearing and begin with the presentation of the facts from

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staff.

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Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

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Today, I have before you case number

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D2-05-26, Village Community

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Development District number two versus to the estate of Donald R.

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Bilodeau, 1715 Madero Drive, Unit

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18, Lot 8, violation of the district's rule to bring about deed

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compliance, and specifically the rule that states, "It shall be the

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responsibility of the owners to keep their lots neat and clean and the

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grass cut and edged at all times. The lot owner shall have the obligation

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to mow and maintain all areas up to the street pavement.

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If an owner does not adhere to this regulation, then the work may be performed on

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behalf of the owner, and the cost shall be charged to the owner." As

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stated in the Village Community Development District number two, external

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deed restriction standards, maintenance

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means the exercise of reasonable care to keep buildings, landscaping,

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lighting, lawns, and other related improvements and fixtures in good

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condition.

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The standard for shrubbery must be maintained so it does not

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extend to soffits and/or rain gutters of the home and must

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not obstruct the entry to the front door.

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On February 13th, 2026, a complaint was

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received regarding shrubs blocking the front door entry.

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On February 17th, staff verified the violation, and after

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staff was unable to make contact with the homeowner, a deed restriction

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reminder was written that same day.

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The initial and second letters were sent out on February 24th and March

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5th, and after following the procedures of compliance of external

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deed restrictions, a notice of public hearing was sent by regular

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and certified mail on March 25th. The homeowner passed

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away in January of 2025. According to

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the county property records, there does not appear to be a mortgage on the

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property. Staff has attempted to contact the emergency

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contacts that were on file. However, both telephone numbers have been

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disconnected. During a recent inspection of the property on April

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8th, it was determined that the property remains out of compliance.

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Staff's recommendation would be to find the owner in violation of the district's

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deed compliance rule as cited by the deed compliance staff.

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The owner has seven days to trim the bushes blocking the walkway to the

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front entry of the home to bring the property into compliance.

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If the shrubs are trimmed and the property is brought into compliance within seven

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days of the order of enforcement, case number

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D2-05-26 shall be closed. If

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the shrubs are not trimmed and the property is not brought into compliance within

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seven days of the order of enforcement, authorize the district to

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maintain the property, impose $150 per

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maintenance hour fine, plus a $100 administrative

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fee to be paid within 10 days of the invoice.

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If the owner prohibits the district from maintaining the property, then the owner

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shall be fined an initial amount of $150, an

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additional $50 per day, until the property is brought into

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compliance.

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If the property is not brought into compliance as required herein, staff

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shall record this order of enforcement claim of lien in the public records

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of Sumter County, Florida. It is the owner's responsibility to contact

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the Community Standards Department to request a deed compliance officer

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revisit the property to confirm compliance.

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If the fines reach $1,500, the case shall be turned over to district counsel

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to seek all available remedies, which may include initiating a lawsuit

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and seeking an injunction against the owner.

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The owner is responsible for reimbursing the district for all attorney's fees,

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costs, and expenses associated with or related to this

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order of enforcement claim of lien.

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If the property is brought into compliance and all fines are paid, chairman

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authorizes staff to execute and record a satisfaction and

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release of lien.

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Chairman to execute the order of enforcement, and I'm here to answer any questions

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that you may have.

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Questions?

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If the owner has passed away in January

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of last year, was it?

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Yes.

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2025.

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Do we know who the owner is? I mean, we've sent out

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letters. Have they been returned or

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do we know if there's any party alive that is

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responsible for the property?

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We have looked. We were not able to find a probate to look

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for any type of family members.

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I even read his obituary, which didn't list any

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family members, list any children or anything like that.

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We tried reaching out to the emergency contacts, and both of those

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numbers have been disconnected. So we don't know.

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According to the property appraiser's website, he

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is still the current owner of the property.

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So letters went out to some address, and were they returned?

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No, not that I'm aware of, no.

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Did the...

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We go through this every time.

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Evidently, there's no mortgage on the place and the person's

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deceased, and it's, what, four or five months before anything is

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done or any complaint is filed. Isn't there something in the

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village's standards carry that takes care of

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property in situations like this?

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Why does that have to come to... Can't they just take care of the

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property and say, "This is part of maintenance"?

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You're going to send us a bill for $5,000 to clean that property

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up when you could do it for a couple hundred dollars.

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Who are you requiring-

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The-

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... suggesting?

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The people you work for, the developer or whoever it

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is.

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No, this is the proper mechanism to have it

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maintained, and Community Standards has been very successful in

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collecting fines that reimburse the board for

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any expenses that you incurred on maintaining properties.

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So this is the proper channel to move

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forward with this, and again, we've been very successful in maintaining the

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properties to bring it up to the standards and then getting reimbursed

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through the fine process.

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The lady said, "Who are you going to collect from?"

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Well, if you put a lien on the property, sometimes when there's a

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sale of the home, we collect it.

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And it also, you have a deed compliance fund that

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is used to maintain the properties, and any fines that are

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collected for District 2 go back into that fund to reimburse

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it. Overall, and we can provide you later with your fund

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balance on that, but for the most part, the districts have been very

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successful in maintaining a positive fund balance that

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allows you to maintain these properties, and then reimburse through

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fines.

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I think-

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I'd like-

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... the balance was listed in our materials for this meeting.

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Your fines.

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Wasn't it?

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Yes.

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So I'd like to make a point, too. The

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comment that there was apparently no mortgage on this home

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is of interest to me because in the past we've had issues where there's

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large mortgages, and by the time these get sold at a foreclosure, there's

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nothing left to get us paid. This would indicate that

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whatever we do will most likely get paid.

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So I'm certainly in favor of trying to maintain this from the

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perspective of the neighbors because I think ultimately we'll get our money back.

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The home has been in disrepair for a long time.

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If you drive Madero each day like I do, it's been a long time.

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Are there any other questions? Otherwise, this is fairly straightforward, I

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think.

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Just in touch,

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maybe to counsel. At what point does a property become

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an abandoned property? If there's no lien on this,

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and we can't find any owners, at what point does it become abandoned?

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Well, we have, that I'm aware of, no rule or

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standard or anything that has anything to do with abandoned real estate.

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The fact that there's no mortgage on this property is exactly as Mr.

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Suire said. This is the kind of property you want to lien as soon as

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possible and get it cleaned up because you're almost guaranteed to get your

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money back whenever property changes hands.

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The fact that the individual's passed away, it sounds like Community Standards has

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done everything that I would've done to try and locate somebody to

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notify. They've done what they had to do.

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We've prepared all the notices that were required.

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At this point, we just need to proceed. Clearly, it's out of compliance.

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Whether it's abandoned or not, again, that's nothing we take into consideration.

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We look at the property and see whether it's in compliance with the deed

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restrictions and the rule or not, and if it's not, we enter our orders of

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enforcement and we let the ownership-

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Somebody's paying insurance for that property. Maybe not.

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Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

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Maybe not.

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Yeah.

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But that's really not our concern.

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Right. At this point-

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It's whether it's a violation or not.

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Correct.

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And then act on that. Are we okay with that?

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Yes.

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Yeah. So we just need to close the public hearing.

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Right. And anyone from the interested party who would like to

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speak? We'd love to meet you if you're here.

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Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing. Board discussion.

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Any further discussion about this matter?

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I don't think there's any discussion needed.

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I think we should just go ahead and

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approve the motion.

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Prepared to make a motion

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on D20526?

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That would be my motion, yes.

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Motion to accept staff's recommendation.

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Yes. Thank you.

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That's my motion.

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A second by Mr. Condon. Any discussion?

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All in favor of the motion say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed? Carried.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Close the hearing.

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Yes, sir. We have case number

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D2-03-26, VCDD number

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two versus Kenneth and Laura Harding, 1405 Figueroa Street.

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And with regard to this case, same rules apply.

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If there's anyone here to testify as to this matter, if you'd please stand and

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raise your right hand.

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Ms. Boyd's already been sworn. She's still under oath, so we can proceed with

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opening the public hearing.

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So there is no one.

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No, sir.

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Yes, Boyd?

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We'll open the public hearing.

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Open the public hearing, yes.

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Good morning, board. Shannon Boyd, Community Standards.

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Today, I have before you case number D2-03-26,

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Village Community Development District number two versus Kenneth Harding

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and Lauren Harding, 1405 Figueroa Street,

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unit 29, lot 142, violation of the district's rule to

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bring about deed compliance, specifically the rule that states, "No

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vehicles incapable of operation shall be stored on any lot, nor shall

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any junk vehicles or equipment be kept on any lot." As

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stated in the Village Community Development District number two external deed

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restriction standards, inoperable vehicles are vehicles that are,

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one, incapable of operation, two, are not licensed and/or

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registered, or three, have a flat or missing tires.

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Vehicles must be capable of operation and proof of such

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shall be demonstrated to staff upon request.

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On January 28th, 2026, staff received a complaint

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regarding vehicles parked in the driveway with expired

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registrations. Staff confirmed the violations, spoke to the

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homeowner, and explained the nature of the violations and steps required to

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achieve compliance in the deed compliance process.

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A deed restriction reminder was written on February 5th, and the initial

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and second letters were sent out on February 13th and February

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26th. After following the procedures of compliance of external deed

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restrictions, a notice of public hearing was sent by regular and

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certified mail on March 6th. The homeowner has maintained

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communication with staff throughout this process.

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On February 23rd, the homeowner reported that two of the vehicles

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had valid registrations and that he was working on obtaining

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registration for the third vehicle.

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On March 13th, he informed staff that he expected to have

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proof of valid registration for the third vehicle prior to

508
00:26:08.208 --> 00:26:11.858
the public hearing. However, during our property inspection

509
00:26:12.188 --> 00:26:16.048
conducted on April 8th, it was determined that the property remains

510
00:26:16.108 --> 00:26:20.068
out of compliance. Staff's recommendation would be to find the owners

511
00:26:20.108 --> 00:26:23.808
in violation of the district's deed compliance rule, as cited by the deed

512
00:26:23.848 --> 00:26:27.808
compliance staff. Owners have five days to put a valid registration

513
00:26:27.928 --> 00:26:31.668
sticker on the vehicle with the expired registration or

514
00:26:31.728 --> 00:26:35.098
remove the vehicle from the property to bring the property into compliance.

515
00:26:35.668 --> 00:26:39.568
If a valid registration sticker has been put on the vehicle or if

516
00:26:39.628 --> 00:26:43.448
the vehicle has been removed from the property within five days of the

517
00:26:43.528 --> 00:26:45.388
order of enforcement, case number

518
00:26:45.528 --> 00:26:49.008
D2-03-26 shall be closed.

519
00:26:49.568 --> 00:26:53.288
If a valid registration sticker is not put on the vehicle or if the

520
00:26:53.348 --> 00:26:57.308
vehicle has not been removed from the property and the property is not brought into

521
00:26:57.348 --> 00:27:00.948
compliance within five days of the order of enforcement, impose

522
00:27:00.958 --> 00:27:04.328
$150 fine to be paid within 10 days of the

523
00:27:04.368 --> 00:27:08.268
invoice and impose a $50 daily fine until the property is brought into

524
00:27:08.308 --> 00:27:08.868
compliance.

525
00:27:09.728 --> 00:27:13.568
If the property is not brought into compliance as required herein, staff shall

526
00:27:13.608 --> 00:27:17.448
record this order of enforcement claim of lien in the public records of Sumter

527
00:27:17.528 --> 00:27:21.428
County, Florida. If the fines reach $1,500, the case shall be turned

528
00:27:21.468 --> 00:27:25.308
over to district counsel to seek all available remedies, which may include

529
00:27:25.368 --> 00:27:29.068
initiating a lawsuit and seeking an injunction against the owners.

530
00:27:29.568 --> 00:27:33.368
The owners are responsible for reimbursing the district for all attorney's

531
00:27:33.408 --> 00:27:37.048
fees, costs, and expenses associated with or related to

532
00:27:37.368 --> 00:27:39.467
this order of enforcement claim of lien.

533
00:27:39.908 --> 00:27:43.848
If the property is brought into compliance and all fines are paid, chairman

534
00:27:43.928 --> 00:27:47.618
authorizes staff to execute and record a satisfaction and

535
00:27:47.668 --> 00:27:51.568
release of claim of lien. Chairman to execute the order of enforcement, and I'm

536
00:27:51.608 --> 00:27:53.908
here to answer any questions that you may have.

537
00:27:55.328 --> 00:27:55.788
Question.

538
00:27:57.808 --> 00:28:01.648
First of all, I note that these vehicles are not inexpensive

539
00:28:02.008 --> 00:28:05.808
junkers, as you would often see. You got a BMW

540
00:28:05.868 --> 00:28:07.928
and so on. But I do have one question.

541
00:28:08.568 --> 00:28:11.088
There's pictures I'm looking at right now.

542
00:28:11.188 --> 00:28:14.728
It shows a BMW on the left, black, and on the right there,

543
00:28:15.048 --> 00:28:15.928
it's a white Ford.

544
00:28:16.828 --> 00:28:20.588
But in the pictures I have here, I also have a picture of a black

545
00:28:20.608 --> 00:28:23.368
Lincoln, and I don't see the Lincoln in-

546
00:28:23.548 --> 00:28:23.808
Correct

547
00:28:23.818 --> 00:28:26.328
... the driveway, so if you could describe to me where that Lincoln is.

548
00:28:26.848 --> 00:28:29.928
That one, they put a valid registration.

549
00:28:30.008 --> 00:28:31.918
The BMW is the only one that has-

550
00:28:33.627 --> 00:28:34.208
The remaining-

551
00:28:34.288 --> 00:28:35.648
Oh, so we're only talking about the BMW then?

552
00:28:36.148 --> 00:28:39.668
It's the BMW. Yeah. The Lincoln and the other vehicle have valid

553
00:28:39.708 --> 00:28:41.108
registrations on them now.

554
00:28:41.198 --> 00:28:41.198
Oh, true.

555
00:28:41.198 --> 00:28:41.368
Now. Okay.

556
00:28:41.488 --> 00:28:41.848
Oh, okay.

557
00:28:41.928 --> 00:28:44.678
Yeah. He put valid registrations on two of the vehicles.

558
00:28:44.788 --> 00:28:48.508
The one, the BMW, still does not have one. So that's the one vehicle.

559
00:28:48.688 --> 00:28:52.408
And that's the one that's been sitting in the driveway for eons or something like

560
00:28:52.468 --> 00:28:52.648
that.

561
00:28:53.428 --> 00:28:56.588
I'm not sure for how long, but it's been there during our process.

562
00:28:57.148 --> 00:28:57.448
Okay.

563
00:28:57.828 --> 00:28:57.988
Yeah.

564
00:28:58.428 --> 00:29:00.108
Any other questions from... Jim?

565
00:29:01.368 --> 00:29:05.128
Yeah. On the 13th of March, he informed the staff he

566
00:29:05.148 --> 00:29:08.328
expected to have proof of valid registration from the third vehicle.

567
00:29:08.848 --> 00:29:12.308
However, during the property inspection on April 8th, determined the property

568
00:29:12.388 --> 00:29:14.968
remained out of compliance.

569
00:29:16.568 --> 00:29:16.738
Have

570
00:29:18.168 --> 00:29:21.988
staff approached the homeowner and mention to them that

571
00:29:22.048 --> 00:29:26.008
you told us they were going to be coming in compliance, you were going to get

572
00:29:26.028 --> 00:29:27.288
it, and now you still have it?

573
00:29:28.128 --> 00:29:28.188
No.

574
00:29:28.248 --> 00:29:29.368
We haven't-

575
00:29:29.488 --> 00:29:30.128
No, our last-

576
00:29:30.208 --> 00:29:31.008
... had face-to-face contact?

577
00:29:31.848 --> 00:29:35.568
No, our last communication was when the resident said that they were going to

578
00:29:36.108 --> 00:29:37.308
notify us when they

579
00:29:38.448 --> 00:29:39.408
had the valid registration.

580
00:29:39.468 --> 00:29:40.398
Thank you. Appreciate

581
00:29:42.488 --> 00:29:42.728
it.

582
00:29:42.908 --> 00:29:43.228
Okay.

583
00:29:44.308 --> 00:29:47.568
Thank you. I'm ready for any

584
00:29:47.948 --> 00:29:50.068
reaction from an interested party.

585
00:29:50.468 --> 00:29:52.628
Is there anyone who would like to speak to this matter?

586
00:29:54.008 --> 00:29:56.548
Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing.

587
00:29:56.888 --> 00:29:58.908
Yes, sir. Just for the record,

588
00:29:59.848 --> 00:30:03.748
so it's clear on the record, the order of enforcement will only be

589
00:30:03.788 --> 00:30:07.588
applicable to the BMW that was seen in the photos.

590
00:30:08.748 --> 00:30:10.748
Okay. One thing to say,

591
00:30:11.688 --> 00:30:15.208
if I may. The car is parked on the driveway.

592
00:30:15.248 --> 00:30:18.868
If that car is in the garage, is it in compliance or not in

593
00:30:18.908 --> 00:30:19.448
compliance?

594
00:30:19.668 --> 00:30:21.748
Correct. It would be in compliance if they put it in the garage.

595
00:30:22.460 --> 00:30:24.840
So, if they just put it in the garage, it'd be okay?

596
00:30:25.040 --> 00:30:25.320
Correct.

597
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:25.920
Thank you.

598
00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:30.420
Any discussion on this matter? Additional discussion?

599
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.980
Hearing none, would someone like to make a motion regarding the staff

600
00:30:37.040 --> 00:30:37.660
recommendation?

601
00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:40.640
I make a motion that we accept the staff's recommendation.

602
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:42.930
On D20326.

603
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:45.160
Yeah, on that number. Yeah, thank you.

604
00:30:45.260 --> 00:30:45.540
Second

605
00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:50.300
by Mr. Conti. Any discussion? All in favor of the motion, say aye.

606
00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:50.800
Aye.

607
00:30:50.860 --> 00:30:53.180
Opposed? Carried. Thank you.

608
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:53.960
Thank you, board.

609
00:30:57.220 --> 00:30:57.880
Old business.

610
00:30:58.620 --> 00:31:02.380
Yes, sir. The only item on your old business status update is once

611
00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:06.420
we've received communication back from FWC to provide an update on that.

612
00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:09.300
If you'll recall, they did come and do their site visit.

613
00:31:09.340 --> 00:31:13.100
However, they indicated that there were individuals that they wanted to discuss the

614
00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:16.980
site visit with first before making their recommendations, and they would

615
00:31:17.040 --> 00:31:20.420
contact staff as soon as they had an opportunity to do that.

616
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:24.180
We have not received information back from FWC.

617
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.460
However, we are continuing, as part of your budget process, to do some of those

618
00:31:28.540 --> 00:31:32.340
other items that we've discussed, such as including a

619
00:31:32.420 --> 00:31:34.880
smaller fence along with the larger one.

620
00:31:35.420 --> 00:31:39.380
We will be presenting those dollar amounts to you as part of your budgeting

621
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.620
process to determine if you would like to move forward.

622
00:31:42.660 --> 00:31:43.640
Questions?

623
00:31:44.080 --> 00:31:44.180
Yeah.

624
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.000
First of all, I would like to express my

625
00:31:47.820 --> 00:31:50.260
thanks to Mike Harris and his group for

626
00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:54.200
responding to some information that I had sent to them.

627
00:31:55.460 --> 00:31:58.860
You probably know, so there's three people that I refer to as my

628
00:31:59.580 --> 00:32:03.560
Friends of Florida Gopher Tortoises that we get together from time to time, and I

629
00:32:03.620 --> 00:32:04.960
presented some information to

630
00:32:05.800 --> 00:32:09.700
Mike relative to mowing procedures and things like

631
00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:10.600
that. And,

632
00:32:12.120 --> 00:32:16.020
I received from Mike, I think everybody got a copy of the

633
00:32:16.260 --> 00:32:20.200
updated procedures that seem to include most things that we

634
00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:24.080
had concerns about. And so I thank you, Mike, for what you've done.

635
00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:24.840
I think it's great.

636
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.050
I was also going to talk about the

637
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.140
fence, but you just mentioned that.

638
00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:33.620
That'll be covered and we'll talk about that in our budget meeting, I presume.

639
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:34.480
Yes, sir.

640
00:32:34.620 --> 00:32:37.849
And the only other thing I would like to make a comment about is, I think the

641
00:32:37.900 --> 00:32:41.680
biggest concern that we have overall with regard to

642
00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:45.240
the Harold Schwartz Preserve is that

643
00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:48.480
we have about 10 times more

644
00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:52.900
gopher tortoises per acre than what we would normally expect to see

645
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.720
and what the

646
00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:56.800
State of Florida indicates

647
00:32:57.760 --> 00:33:00.960
it should be, three to four per acre. We have about 30-some per acre.

648
00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:05.920
So, my comment would be that maybe we should have an additional follow-up with the

649
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.600
state as to where they are.

650
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.050
Because I think that's one matter that probably is the most

651
00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:14.880
significant matter of all that needs to be addressed is what we're going to do

652
00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:15.700
about that long term.

653
00:33:16.580 --> 00:33:20.060
And that is what we are anticipating they will provide guidance on.

654
00:33:21.340 --> 00:33:25.020
What they were doing when they came was actually scoping to determine

655
00:33:25.600 --> 00:33:29.360
how many of those were actually inhabited versus how many

656
00:33:29.780 --> 00:33:33.640
were either empty or had been abandoned,

657
00:33:34.100 --> 00:33:38.020
as well as determining the health of them, because even if there are more

658
00:33:38.060 --> 00:33:41.450
than what you would anticipate, if the health of the gopher

659
00:33:41.520 --> 00:33:44.040
tortoises is as it should be.

660
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.900
So those are the things that we're anticipating hearing back on them with based on

661
00:33:47.940 --> 00:33:50.220
their scoping. And again, we

662
00:33:51.100 --> 00:33:54.860
haven't heard anything back yet, but certainly they were in

663
00:33:54.900 --> 00:33:58.460
contact with BDA. BDA was there with them during

664
00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:02.430
the evaluation and site visit. So as soon as

665
00:34:02.460 --> 00:34:05.860
we hear back something, we will provide the board with their

666
00:34:05.940 --> 00:34:07.380
recommendations as well as

667
00:34:09.301 --> 00:34:12.420
any recommendations that BDA has as a follow-up to that.

668
00:34:13.361 --> 00:34:16.100
Do these things snap like a snapping turtle?

669
00:34:16.140 --> 00:34:19.480
Are they dangerous to pick one up? Just out of curiosity, because I saw a big one

670
00:34:19.560 --> 00:34:22.939
crossing El Camino the other day, and I said, "Am I going to touch that thing?"

671
00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:26.841
Because I grew up with snapping turtles that take your arm off, but anybody

672
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.120
know?

673
00:34:27.321 --> 00:34:27.420
No.

674
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:28.749
They're not? They're not aggressive?

675
00:34:28.761 --> 00:34:31.140
They're not snapping turtles. But be cautious.

676
00:34:32.080 --> 00:34:35.341
Unless you have a certificate from the State of Florida authorizing you to pick one

677
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:35.520
up,

678
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.390
you're violating the law if you pick one up, so.

679
00:34:38.390 --> 00:34:39.870
So you can run it over, but you can't pick it up.

680
00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:39.950
I-

681
00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:40.200
Okay

682
00:34:40.600 --> 00:34:43.980
... believe you can get them out of a roadway. I'm not positive.

683
00:34:44.091 --> 00:34:44.091
Right.

684
00:34:44.720 --> 00:34:46.720
And they will bite.

685
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:47.600
Okay.

686
00:34:47.640 --> 00:34:50.900
It's a tortoise, but they don't go after you and try to bite you.

687
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.600
No. Yeah. I agree with you.

688
00:34:52.861 --> 00:34:54.160
I don't want to belabor that point.

689
00:34:54.261 --> 00:34:54.920
Notwithstanding,

690
00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:58.840
I think we should pick them up and try to place them back.

691
00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:01.780
Although it's difficult to place them back in the preserve because there's a fence

692
00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:02.160
around it.

693
00:35:02.330 --> 00:35:02.450
Right.

694
00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:03.580
Yeah. I wouldn't-

695
00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:06.240
If you throw it over the fence, it lands upside down-

696
00:35:06.580 --> 00:35:06.660
Yeah.

697
00:35:06.690 --> 00:35:07.460
... you're in real trouble.

698
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.620
So you do have to have a permit to put a

699
00:35:11.680 --> 00:35:14.460
tortoise in the preserve. So I would not put them in the preserve.

700
00:35:14.540 --> 00:35:18.420
But certainly, if you see one in the middle of the road, getting it off of the

701
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:19.200
road is-

702
00:35:19.720 --> 00:35:19.890
Okay

703
00:35:20.040 --> 00:35:21.580
... probably okay.

704
00:35:21.620 --> 00:35:21.650
Carrie.

705
00:35:21.650 --> 00:35:24.220
I didn't mean to open up a whole new set of discussion, but-

706
00:35:24.520 --> 00:35:25.060
Carrie.

707
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.840
Yeah. One of the board members wants to speak first.

708
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.000
Oh, okay. There's something in the audience.

709
00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:29.740
I see that. Yeah.

710
00:35:30.080 --> 00:35:32.220
Carrie. Tom, get out of the way. Can you just-

711
00:35:32.580 --> 00:35:32.680
Yeah

712
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.109
... sit down?

713
00:35:33.170 --> 00:35:33.640
That's fine.

714
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:34.920
Carrie.

715
00:35:34.940 --> 00:35:35.050
Yes, sir.

716
00:35:35.060 --> 00:35:35.720
May I have a question?

717
00:35:36.660 --> 00:35:36.860
That

718
00:35:37.700 --> 00:35:40.780
preserve was constructed to preserve turtles.

719
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.100
A certain amount of turtles, correct?

720
00:35:44.640 --> 00:35:44.900
It's

721
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.330
not necessarily a certain amount, but they're-

722
00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:49.390
Tortoises.

723
00:35:49.390 --> 00:35:51.160
Tortoise, yes. And other animals.

724
00:35:51.180 --> 00:35:54.040
There are other animals that the preserves are designated towards.

725
00:35:54.300 --> 00:35:57.140
And we're not allowed over that fence, correct?

726
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:57.680
Correct.

727
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.470
Okay. Now, these tortoises

728
00:36:01.580 --> 00:36:02.180
proliferated

729
00:36:03.160 --> 00:36:06.620
to the point where there's 30-some turtles versus two.

730
00:36:07.580 --> 00:36:11.320
What is the district doing to maintain that population of turtles?

731
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.750
Forget all these procedures to cut grass and hatch eggs and

732
00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:19.380
all that other stuff. What is the district doing to maintain that

733
00:36:20.100 --> 00:36:22.460
thing that they set the standards on?

734
00:36:22.910 --> 00:36:26.580
Then all of a sudden it becomes a district problem or our problem or a

735
00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:29.700
resident problem. That's not our problem. That's a district problem.

736
00:36:30.100 --> 00:36:33.510
What is the district doingto maintain those turtles?

737
00:36:34.450 --> 00:36:37.690
So the district is not doing anything to maintain a

738
00:36:37.750 --> 00:36:41.590
population. The point of a preserve is to

739
00:36:41.870 --> 00:36:45.690
give a habitat for the tortoises

740
00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:47.290
to be untouched

741
00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:51.070
because of the growth going on around them.

742
00:36:51.130 --> 00:36:54.950
So the tortoises are put into a preserve, and for the most

743
00:36:55.010 --> 00:36:58.790
part, they are left alone and we don't do anything to try to

744
00:36:58.870 --> 00:37:01.020
increase or decrease the population.

745
00:37:02.810 --> 00:37:06.290
But where did that standard come from, two to 30-some?

746
00:37:06.570 --> 00:37:10.450
That's just guidance. You don't have

747
00:37:10.490 --> 00:37:14.110
to maintain that or have above or below or right at that.

748
00:37:14.180 --> 00:37:17.670
That is some guidance that has been put out that would

749
00:37:17.830 --> 00:37:21.530
indicate a healthy preserve. It's kind of

750
00:37:22.130 --> 00:37:25.950
double-sided here because in one conversation, we

751
00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:29.450
say that there's way too many tortoises, which would indicate

752
00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:32.970
that they're doing very well. And again,

753
00:37:33.410 --> 00:37:37.009
nature tends to sort itself out. So if you are

754
00:37:37.250 --> 00:37:40.610
overpopulating, eventually it's going to slow down,

755
00:37:41.170 --> 00:37:41.490
and

756
00:37:43.070 --> 00:37:46.610
they will stop overpopulating because they're not going to be healthy tortoises

757
00:37:46.650 --> 00:37:50.510
anymore. Again, the point of a preserve is to kind of put them in there and

758
00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:52.030
let them be and not mess with them.

759
00:37:52.170 --> 00:37:52.640
Yeah.

760
00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:56.310
This board has authorized a

761
00:37:56.370 --> 00:38:00.250
member, or did authorize a member and some residents to do some research

762
00:38:00.330 --> 00:38:04.230
as to whether or not there is an overpopulation or whether or not there are

763
00:38:04.250 --> 00:38:05.670
things that we can do to

764
00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:10.730
improve the life of the tortoises, which is why we're talking about it.

765
00:38:10.850 --> 00:38:14.330
Generally speaking, we do what is required and recommended by our

766
00:38:14.350 --> 00:38:17.650
environmentalists, and then we leave them alone and let

767
00:38:17.750 --> 00:38:20.050
them live their life in the preserve.

768
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:24.560
There has been people here on different occasions over a period of time that

769
00:38:24.650 --> 00:38:27.130
said they were in their backyard and chewed the fence up.

770
00:38:27.570 --> 00:38:31.430
They were under the fence. How does the district

771
00:38:33.850 --> 00:38:35.820
keep an eye on what's going on at those tortoises?

772
00:38:35.870 --> 00:38:39.710
So you budget for that. That is part of the District 2 budget, just like other

773
00:38:39.790 --> 00:38:43.710
districts that have preserves. And then District Property Management is

774
00:38:43.810 --> 00:38:46.170
responsible for replacing that fence.

775
00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:50.090
Do they punch a time clock? How do I know, or how do we know that

776
00:38:50.210 --> 00:38:51.280
they're going to take care of this?

777
00:38:51.770 --> 00:38:55.270
So it's in your budget right now to replace the fence at

778
00:38:55.310 --> 00:38:59.190
the Harold Schwartz Preserve. But this board has asked us to look

779
00:38:59.270 --> 00:39:03.050
at doing a smaller fence with it, and that's what we're in the process

780
00:39:03.190 --> 00:39:07.110
of. We were working with BDA to make sure that it was one that would

781
00:39:07.150 --> 00:39:09.730
be acceptable in the preserve setting.

782
00:39:10.180 --> 00:39:13.950
And we will be presenting to you whether or not you want to incorporate that

783
00:39:14.030 --> 00:39:17.870
into the fence replacement, because it would certainly be a lot cheaper to do

784
00:39:17.950 --> 00:39:20.130
everything at once versus doing the

785
00:39:21.890 --> 00:39:25.670
black fence this year and then going back and adding in the smaller one.

786
00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:30.150
So it is the responsibility of District Property Management

787
00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:33.069
to do that based on the policy direction of this board.

788
00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:37.490
So the district does it, but they're

789
00:39:37.530 --> 00:39:40.130
billing the District 2 for the repair.

790
00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:41.910
Well, you are the district.

791
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:42.000
We are.

792
00:39:42.010 --> 00:39:42.590
So you-

793
00:39:43.350 --> 00:39:45.730
But you're maintaining it.

794
00:39:46.010 --> 00:39:46.110
Yeah.

795
00:39:46.150 --> 00:39:48.690
You don't have anything to do with it, but you're billing us for it. Okay.

796
00:39:48.790 --> 00:39:52.190
We pay about 60-some thousand a year for mowing

797
00:39:52.890 --> 00:39:56.230
and approximately 12,000 a year for Reed Love Dennis &

798
00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:57.510
Associates for their

799
00:39:58.610 --> 00:40:01.410
professional services as environmental engineers.

800
00:40:02.030 --> 00:40:02.740
So we're paying about,

801
00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:07.150
I think, close to $75,000 a year. The fact is that we

802
00:40:07.890 --> 00:40:09.830
in fact own the tortoises,

803
00:40:10.770 --> 00:40:14.070
and I guess the only concern we have, or I have, is that

804
00:40:14.910 --> 00:40:16.800
notwithstanding what you said is correct,

805
00:40:19.490 --> 00:40:23.460
we have this thing caged in. So typically, tortoises, if they're

806
00:40:23.470 --> 00:40:27.410
on their own, can walk around and end up with only two or three

807
00:40:27.510 --> 00:40:30.590
per acre, but here we fence them in, so we don't let them out.

808
00:40:31.430 --> 00:40:35.010
And so we have an overpopulation, and I guess it's kind of similar to

809
00:40:35.610 --> 00:40:36.630
if you have a house and you got

810
00:40:38.350 --> 00:40:41.070
one cat or two cats, but if you have a house with 30 cats in it, is that

811
00:40:41.970 --> 00:40:44.730
proper? So I think we'd just

812
00:40:45.950 --> 00:40:48.130
like to get some conclusion on and deal with it.

813
00:40:48.230 --> 00:40:48.430
Yeah.

814
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.870
If the environmental people say it's fine, I guess that's fine.

815
00:40:50.910 --> 00:40:51.069
But

816
00:40:51.870 --> 00:40:53.050
right now, that's what we're trying to find out.

817
00:40:53.389 --> 00:40:56.170
Right. The intent of this was just an update as to where we're at.

818
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:56.580
Correct.

819
00:40:57.670 --> 00:41:00.120
You sit in the front, where every week we'll give you one minute to...

820
00:41:00.690 --> 00:41:01.930
You must want to say something.

821
00:41:04.330 --> 00:41:05.870
Every month, I'm sorry. Not every week.

822
00:41:06.120 --> 00:41:09.230
Paula Howard, 1501 Escandon Place.

823
00:41:10.870 --> 00:41:10.910
I

824
00:41:11.870 --> 00:41:15.790
don't have a comment about the tortoises, but I want to add to

825
00:41:15.830 --> 00:41:19.370
Tom's thank you to Mike, and it's

826
00:41:19.470 --> 00:41:22.690
about his quick response twice now

827
00:41:23.270 --> 00:41:26.830
about having the potholes in our roundabout fixed.

828
00:41:27.330 --> 00:41:27.610
Thank you.

829
00:41:28.950 --> 00:41:32.390
Okay. We're going to move on then to information items.

830
00:41:32.790 --> 00:41:35.110
Semiannual deed compliance and ARC

831
00:41:35.510 --> 00:41:37.430
statistics.

832
00:41:37.450 --> 00:41:40.760
Yes, sir. These are just provided for your information, and if you have questions

833
00:41:40.850 --> 00:41:44.660
on any A through D items, staff is available and willing to answer

834
00:41:44.750 --> 00:41:45.270
questions.

835
00:41:46.530 --> 00:41:46.610
I

836
00:41:47.450 --> 00:41:50.150
don't have the numbers right in front of me, but the

837
00:41:50.290 --> 00:41:54.090
17 ARC requests, is

838
00:41:54.110 --> 00:41:55.030
that number correct?

839
00:41:56.090 --> 00:41:58.170
I'm just thinking from when I looked at this.

840
00:41:58.570 --> 00:42:02.459
It seemed like a very small number for six months' worth of

841
00:42:02.510 --> 00:42:05.370
District 2. Am I right or wrong on that?

842
00:42:11.490 --> 00:42:14.790
No. For ARC applications processed, you had 94.

843
00:42:16.710 --> 00:42:18.330
Okay. I'm looking at the 17 number. Okay.

844
00:42:19.330 --> 00:42:23.050
I'm wrong here just like at home, so I'm okay with

845
00:42:23.150 --> 00:42:26.810
this. Any comments, questions

846
00:42:28.550 --> 00:42:30.390
regarding the semiannual

847
00:42:31.290 --> 00:42:31.850
statistics?

848
00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:37.430
The only comment I would make is that I have reviewed the numbers and the

849
00:42:37.470 --> 00:42:41.382
details, and I think theChanges that we made

850
00:42:41.422 --> 00:42:45.202
a couple of years ago with regard to the requiring

851
00:42:45.622 --> 00:42:49.462
names and addresses of complainants seems to be working

852
00:42:49.522 --> 00:42:53.042
fine. We still have proper complaints coming in where they're

853
00:42:53.682 --> 00:42:54.722
necessary, and

854
00:42:55.682 --> 00:42:58.762
I think we've avoided the issues of anonymous complaints, and

855
00:42:59.662 --> 00:43:03.202
I don't see any particular information in the data that I look at that says that

856
00:43:04.262 --> 00:43:06.582
we have made an incorrect decision a couple of years ago.

857
00:43:10.062 --> 00:43:10.862
That's your opinion.

858
00:43:11.862 --> 00:43:12.482
It is my opinion.

859
00:43:12.622 --> 00:43:12.762
Yeah.

860
00:43:12.902 --> 00:43:13.022
And-

861
00:43:13.342 --> 00:43:13.782
That's good.

862
00:43:14.862 --> 00:43:16.302
I've seen where we've dropped from...

863
00:43:17.122 --> 00:43:18.842
I should have these numbers in front of me, otherwise...

864
00:43:18.942 --> 00:43:22.042
But from 122 down to 32?

865
00:43:22.782 --> 00:43:25.022
It was 122-

866
00:43:25.462 --> 00:43:26.022
Then down to 50

867
00:43:26.142 --> 00:43:28.782
... then 57, and then as of this year, we're at 37.

868
00:43:28.882 --> 00:43:32.182
So we must all be following the rules much better as a result of that.

869
00:43:33.062 --> 00:43:36.102
Okay, well, thank you for the report. That's very helpful.

870
00:43:38.662 --> 00:43:39.522
Financial statements.

871
00:43:42.662 --> 00:43:44.702
Any questions on the financial statements?

872
00:43:45.142 --> 00:43:47.782
I have looked at them and find they look

873
00:43:48.622 --> 00:43:49.042
fine.

874
00:43:49.342 --> 00:43:49.702
Yeah.

875
00:43:49.762 --> 00:43:50.342
I have no

876
00:43:51.862 --> 00:43:53.302
questions about them.

877
00:43:54.402 --> 00:43:55.462
Yes, everything seems to be-

878
00:43:55.502 --> 00:43:55.882
Good job

879
00:43:56.582 --> 00:43:59.782
... expenses are down, and revenues are where they should be.

880
00:43:59.822 --> 00:43:59.832
Yeah.

881
00:43:59.842 --> 00:44:00.002
So,

882
00:44:00.822 --> 00:44:01.682
that's what we want.

883
00:44:01.842 --> 00:44:02.122
Yeah.

884
00:44:02.902 --> 00:44:06.222
Any other comments, questions on the financial statements?

885
00:44:07.342 --> 00:44:09.912
Seeing none, I guess we will move to the

886
00:44:12.042 --> 00:44:13.442
DPM monthly report.

887
00:44:14.422 --> 00:44:15.122
We had a nice

888
00:44:16.522 --> 00:44:19.482
report provided for us. Any questions on that? Any comments?

889
00:44:21.972 --> 00:44:23.422
Okay.

890
00:44:24.222 --> 00:44:24.562
The only

891
00:44:25.802 --> 00:44:29.602
question I have, I don't know if it's a question or comment, is just I keep looking

892
00:44:29.642 --> 00:44:32.602
at the Alhambra Pond, and I know there's no way to get water in the thing, but

893
00:44:32.622 --> 00:44:36.142
I know I had information I sent to Mike

894
00:44:37.162 --> 00:44:40.982
in response to somebody who sent me an email about the weeds that are growing.

895
00:44:41.002 --> 00:44:42.982
Now that we don't have any water in there, we have a weed problem.

896
00:44:43.242 --> 00:44:43.862
Yeah.

897
00:44:43.882 --> 00:44:46.022
So I guess that's being taken care of, but

898
00:44:46.962 --> 00:44:50.811
surely it'd be nice to get some water in there. One question, maybe Mike knows.

899
00:44:51.021 --> 00:44:54.902
Does the drainage from the streets, does that drain into the

900
00:44:54.962 --> 00:44:55.282
pond?

901
00:44:55.362 --> 00:44:55.722
It does.

902
00:44:56.342 --> 00:44:56.582
Okay.

903
00:44:57.302 --> 00:44:57.482
Yeah.

904
00:44:58.582 --> 00:44:59.642
Storm sewer going there.

905
00:45:04.602 --> 00:45:07.122
Public hearing updates. Anything on

906
00:45:08.202 --> 00:45:08.862
that topic?

907
00:45:10.142 --> 00:45:14.002
Nope, these are just updates to all of your outstanding public hearings.

908
00:45:14.742 --> 00:45:18.662
And again, Mr. Briones or Ms. Boyd are happy to answer any questions

909
00:45:18.702 --> 00:45:20.582
on any of those cases if you have them.

910
00:45:21.202 --> 00:45:23.482
Any questions from anyone regarding that report?

911
00:45:24.942 --> 00:45:25.542
Seeing none.

912
00:45:27.762 --> 00:45:31.082
Amenity Authority Committee after agenda, Mr. Benson is not here.

913
00:45:34.242 --> 00:45:38.162
I am happy to answer any questions. It's a pretty thorough document.

914
00:45:38.202 --> 00:45:41.882
There was a lot of discussion on Morse Boulevard and

915
00:45:41.962 --> 00:45:45.352
the new study that was received by Sumter County,

916
00:45:45.862 --> 00:45:47.802
which had been presented to the AAC.

917
00:45:48.302 --> 00:45:52.222
The other item to note specifically for District 2, since you're in this

918
00:45:52.502 --> 00:45:55.742
geographical area, is that they did approve the addition of water

919
00:45:55.842 --> 00:45:58.962
cannons to both sports pools

920
00:45:59.602 --> 00:46:03.082
at Savannah and Hacienda, which are the only two left

921
00:46:03.162 --> 00:46:06.422
remaining. Once those are installed, all of the sports pools will have those.

922
00:46:06.932 --> 00:46:10.862
And the intent of that is to just lower the temperature of those pools

923
00:46:10.902 --> 00:46:14.802
during the hot summer months, especially for those users who

924
00:46:14.842 --> 00:46:17.501
are doing things such as water volleyball and more active.

925
00:46:18.642 --> 00:46:22.182
But if there are any other questions on the after report or after agenda, I'm happy

926
00:46:22.302 --> 00:46:23.142
to answer them.

927
00:46:23.782 --> 00:46:26.082
I got a couple questions on the AAC.

928
00:46:27.302 --> 00:46:27.311
Yeah.

929
00:46:28.082 --> 00:46:30.342
I read something about they were going to change the

930
00:46:32.122 --> 00:46:34.102
card readers for entering the gates.

931
00:46:34.522 --> 00:46:34.642
Yes.

932
00:46:35.282 --> 00:46:37.922
And it was going to cost over a million dollars to do that.

933
00:46:38.602 --> 00:46:42.362
I don't remember seeing anything or hearing anything about that till I read about

934
00:46:42.402 --> 00:46:46.022
it. Don't the AAC have a responsibility to present that to each

935
00:46:46.102 --> 00:46:49.052
district prior to spending that money?

936
00:46:50.062 --> 00:46:53.512
It's not over a million dollars. The AAC portion is

937
00:46:53.982 --> 00:46:57.762
not even close to that, but they don't because they own the

938
00:46:57.782 --> 00:47:01.602
gates, and they are not funded through maintenance assessments, which

939
00:47:01.642 --> 00:47:03.792
falls under the purview of the residential districts.

940
00:47:03.882 --> 00:47:05.582
They're funded through the amenity fees.

941
00:47:06.202 --> 00:47:10.082
It was in several meetings that they had where long-range

942
00:47:10.142 --> 00:47:13.622
readers were presented. They received several presentations on it.

943
00:47:14.322 --> 00:47:18.242
The intent of the long-range readers is they will be added to the

944
00:47:18.282 --> 00:47:22.102
existing gate card readers, and if residents would

945
00:47:22.222 --> 00:47:25.922
like to purchase a sticker that you can add

946
00:47:26.002 --> 00:47:29.922
to your headlight, you will be able to pull up to the gate,

947
00:47:30.322 --> 00:47:34.082
stop, and the gate will open without you having to present a gate

948
00:47:34.142 --> 00:47:38.002
card. It is anticipated that the revenue generated

949
00:47:38.042 --> 00:47:41.982
from the stickers will offset the cost of the addition of all of those long-range

950
00:47:42.062 --> 00:47:45.642
readers. It also updates the technology to

951
00:47:46.282 --> 00:47:50.222
today's technology. The readers that we're using are the same readers that we

952
00:47:50.242 --> 00:47:53.702
have been using since the inception of

953
00:47:53.802 --> 00:47:57.122
the gates here, so 30-ish years.

954
00:47:57.842 --> 00:48:01.412
At some point in time, if the AAC and Project-Wide Advisory

955
00:48:01.482 --> 00:48:05.392
Committee ever wanted to transition to solely using

956
00:48:05.442 --> 00:48:08.822
those long-range readers, it is an encrypted system.

957
00:48:09.182 --> 00:48:12.682
So whereas right now you have the duplication and

958
00:48:13.242 --> 00:48:17.162
forging of the existing gate cards, this new system,

959
00:48:17.302 --> 00:48:19.782
with it being encrypted, would not allow that to happen.

960
00:48:20.282 --> 00:48:23.642
That is not something that the AAC or Project-Wide Advisory Committee are

961
00:48:23.702 --> 00:48:27.582
interested in right now. It is much more expensive to move

962
00:48:27.622 --> 00:48:31.362
in that direction, but this is essentially the first

963
00:48:31.422 --> 00:48:34.702
phase. If they were to want to do that over a multi-year

964
00:48:36.062 --> 00:48:40.022
project, they could. So this simply is going to allow residents to

965
00:48:40.062 --> 00:48:43.882
purchase a sticker, drive up to the gate, have it open without

966
00:48:43.922 --> 00:48:45.802
having to roll down your window and present a card.

967
00:48:46.486 --> 00:48:50.346
But does the AAC or whoever's spending that money,

968
00:48:50.426 --> 00:48:51.186
don't they have

969
00:48:52.206 --> 00:48:55.406
an obligation to do a presentation before they okay it or not?

970
00:48:55.726 --> 00:48:59.366
Well, they did. Just like you do it here in your meeting, they do it in their

971
00:48:59.426 --> 00:49:00.326
meeting. So if-

972
00:49:00.706 --> 00:49:01.746
I don't go to their meetings

973
00:49:02.206 --> 00:49:03.966
... Well, and that's your prerogative.

974
00:49:04.046 --> 00:49:04.726
But just like-

975
00:49:04.986 --> 00:49:04.996
It's easy

976
00:49:04.996 --> 00:49:07.956
... residents can't complain about their maintenance assessments and not

977
00:49:08.006 --> 00:49:11.246
understanding you increasing their maintenance assessments if they don't come to

978
00:49:11.286 --> 00:49:13.086
this meeting, the same would hold true.

979
00:49:13.146 --> 00:49:15.516
If you have an opinion, you would need to go to that meeting and voice it.

980
00:49:15.526 --> 00:49:18.246
So it's okay by you. If you're absent, it's okay.

981
00:49:19.946 --> 00:49:23.386
No, it's just the proper avenue would be for you to go to their meeting.

982
00:49:23.766 --> 00:49:27.026
There has to be some way of getting things done, and at least that's how they do

983
00:49:27.066 --> 00:49:27.806
it. Jim.

984
00:49:28.466 --> 00:49:28.846
Yeah.

985
00:49:30.646 --> 00:49:32.306
A couple things.

986
00:49:34.626 --> 00:49:38.606
The figure that Jim gave, it was stated, at least this is

987
00:49:38.626 --> 00:49:41.266
what I read also, 1.1 million. They sell the

988
00:49:42.166 --> 00:49:45.916
stickers, 1.2 million, so it's a break-even thing.

989
00:49:45.916 --> 00:49:47.206
I remember bringing this up to

990
00:49:48.166 --> 00:49:51.846
Mr. Batson about that, because where my brother lives, they have the sticker on the

991
00:49:51.886 --> 00:49:55.606
headlight. I brought this up a while ago, and then what yous did is

992
00:49:55.626 --> 00:49:59.556
you retweaked the system that you have now from when the

993
00:49:59.626 --> 00:50:02.486
time I brought it up to him. He thought it was ridiculous when I said that to him.

994
00:50:04.626 --> 00:50:06.266
My question, what I really want to know,

995
00:50:07.686 --> 00:50:09.506
when you buy a home in The Villages,

996
00:50:11.006 --> 00:50:13.806
villa, home, anything. When you buy property, let's put it that way.

997
00:50:14.446 --> 00:50:15.186
The white card

998
00:50:16.086 --> 00:50:19.366
that we all use now, do we pay for that, or does that come with the house?

999
00:50:20.986 --> 00:50:23.866
That comes with the house. You get two gate cards.

1000
00:50:23.926 --> 00:50:24.346
Right.

1001
00:50:24.376 --> 00:50:25.126
And yes.

1002
00:50:25.446 --> 00:50:28.166
Okay. Well, let me give my point. Here's my point.

1003
00:50:28.726 --> 00:50:30.226
My point is, why

1004
00:50:31.326 --> 00:50:33.226
can't we give every home

1005
00:50:34.846 --> 00:50:37.906
one $20 thing? It's going to cost $20.

1006
00:50:37.966 --> 00:50:41.386
We're going to give it to you for free, and then any one you want after that, you

1007
00:50:41.426 --> 00:50:44.866
have to pay. So hypothetically, we'll just say instead of making

1008
00:50:44.886 --> 00:50:48.566
$1.2 million, which was the figures that were given

1009
00:50:48.646 --> 00:50:51.266
out, we're only going to make $500 million.

1010
00:50:52.426 --> 00:50:55.746
So now on our return, it's only going to cost us

1011
00:50:55.806 --> 00:50:58.606
$500,000.

1012
00:50:59.626 --> 00:51:01.546
So we're going to give everybody one.

1013
00:51:01.986 --> 00:51:05.826
So like in my case, I have two golf carts and I have two cars.

1014
00:51:06.826 --> 00:51:09.246
So you give me one for free, that's not covering my vehicles.

1015
00:51:09.706 --> 00:51:13.666
So if I buy three, which I would, there's $60 you made

1016
00:51:13.706 --> 00:51:14.466
off Jim Connelly.

1017
00:51:15.526 --> 00:51:18.206
$13, $24, come out. And this is what I'm trying to say.

1018
00:51:18.406 --> 00:51:20.386
So why

1019
00:51:21.666 --> 00:51:25.126
showing a sign of good faith, because you didn't do this the first time,

1020
00:51:26.866 --> 00:51:29.876
to just give every home owner

1021
00:51:30.626 --> 00:51:34.516
one $20 one for free? Everybody's got a car and everybody's got a

1022
00:51:34.546 --> 00:51:36.876
golf cart. So then it's your option.

1023
00:51:36.876 --> 00:51:39.466
Do you want to go the other route, or do you still want to roll down your window?

1024
00:51:39.726 --> 00:51:42.406
Why isn't that looked into?

1025
00:51:43.206 --> 00:51:43.236
I think-

1026
00:51:43.236 --> 00:51:45.436
I know I'm only asking you because you said you would take questions.

1027
00:51:45.466 --> 00:51:49.026
Sure. No, absolutely. That certainly would be the prerogative of the

1028
00:51:49.086 --> 00:51:52.506
AAC. We did present an option to them.

1029
00:51:53.326 --> 00:51:56.866
So just a little bit of history. Several months ago, we had a joint meeting between

1030
00:51:56.906 --> 00:52:00.886
AAC and Project Wide, in which we presented to them three different options.

1031
00:52:01.386 --> 00:52:03.066
One was just the long-range readers.

1032
00:52:03.846 --> 00:52:07.406
Another one was to transition to the new

1033
00:52:07.466 --> 00:52:11.306
system, remove the existing readers, and then reissue

1034
00:52:11.346 --> 00:52:12.115
gate cards,

1035
00:52:12.926 --> 00:52:16.886
such as what you described, that would all have that long-range capability.

1036
00:52:16.926 --> 00:52:20.566
That came at a much higher price tag than what just the

1037
00:52:20.626 --> 00:52:24.546
existing long-range readers did, and both the AAC and Project Wide

1038
00:52:24.566 --> 00:52:27.286
at that time said they didn't want to do anything.

1039
00:52:28.026 --> 00:52:28.266
So

1040
00:52:29.366 --> 00:52:32.966
when the AAC brought it back up and said they wanted to relook at it,

1041
00:52:33.646 --> 00:52:37.326
we presented those two options again and said, "You can

1042
00:52:37.426 --> 00:52:37.806
either

1043
00:52:39.046 --> 00:52:42.866
just add the sticker as an additional option, or we can reissue,

1044
00:52:43.046 --> 00:52:46.926
it would be cards, but they would be long-range capable." So again, you

1045
00:52:46.946 --> 00:52:48.106
wouldn't have to roll down your window.

1046
00:52:48.566 --> 00:52:52.076
You would just pull up there, hold it up, and we would

1047
00:52:52.146 --> 00:52:56.056
reissue two brand-new ones to every property,

1048
00:52:56.546 --> 00:52:59.426
and then again, if they wanted to purchase additional, they could.

1049
00:52:59.926 --> 00:53:03.826
Again, that is substantially more expensive, and both the

1050
00:53:03.906 --> 00:53:07.555
AAC and Project Wide were not inclined to choose that option.

1051
00:53:07.576 --> 00:53:11.566
So we can, they can, but neither one of them at this time are interested in

1052
00:53:11.606 --> 00:53:15.586
doing that. The only thing that they wanted to do was add the reader in

1053
00:53:15.686 --> 00:53:18.846
with the sticker option if residents wanted to.

1054
00:53:19.606 --> 00:53:21.346
If I can add just one other thing, if I may?

1055
00:53:21.426 --> 00:53:22.726
Sure. Go ahead.

1056
00:53:23.646 --> 00:53:23.726
They

1057
00:53:24.646 --> 00:53:27.146
find that too expensive, the taking care of the residents.

1058
00:53:27.826 --> 00:53:31.466
Because I want to state this because I want this out there.

1059
00:53:31.566 --> 00:53:31.736
But

1060
00:53:32.886 --> 00:53:35.066
we can build, at a golf course,

1061
00:53:36.046 --> 00:53:36.626
a garage

1062
00:53:37.546 --> 00:53:38.366
for contractors.

1063
00:53:42.226 --> 00:53:43.286
That wasn't too expensive.

1064
00:53:43.946 --> 00:53:45.386
So we didn't do it.

1065
00:53:45.546 --> 00:53:47.326
Well, I don't care, but they're still working on it.

1066
00:53:47.346 --> 00:53:49.346
But I'm saying, I remember they came in here.

1067
00:53:49.886 --> 00:53:53.066
They said they're building a garage for the contractors, so they can store their

1068
00:53:53.106 --> 00:53:55.026
equipment and make it easier on them.

1069
00:53:55.326 --> 00:53:57.086
Contractors, which at the time,

1070
00:53:58.066 --> 00:54:00.666
as far as I was concerned, that's not my problem about your equipment.

1071
00:54:01.066 --> 00:54:03.356
If we hire you 8:00 to 5:00, you better be there 8:00 to 5:00.

1072
00:54:03.926 --> 00:54:06.826
But we can do that for the contract and build that garage.

1073
00:54:07.606 --> 00:54:11.506
But to take care of the residents who foot the bills here, we can't

1074
00:54:11.526 --> 00:54:12.826
throw them one, because that's what it said in the

1075
00:54:13.786 --> 00:54:15.226
article. Exactly as you

1076
00:54:16.466 --> 00:54:19.506
said, Mrs. Duckett, but they didn't say that you were going to get one.

1077
00:54:19.866 --> 00:54:23.226
They said you could purchase one, and I'm saying exactly what you just said, but

1078
00:54:23.266 --> 00:54:24.916
now you said they felt it was too expensive.

1079
00:54:25.386 --> 00:54:29.036
Well, to me, that's a farce. Thank you for your time, and I'm sorry,

1080
00:54:29.116 --> 00:54:30.596
too. I don't want you to think I'm attacking you.

1081
00:54:30.666 --> 00:54:31.806
No, that's okay.

1082
00:54:32.486 --> 00:54:32.505
I apologize.

1083
00:54:32.526 --> 00:54:35.246
And just to clarify real quick, if I can, on the cost.

1084
00:54:35.536 --> 00:54:39.006
So option one was just adding the long-range readers.

1085
00:54:39.506 --> 00:54:42.786
That was $1.1 million, but it was to be

1086
00:54:43.186 --> 00:54:44.486
shared between

1087
00:54:45.646 --> 00:54:47.790
the-AAC-

1088
00:54:48.150 --> 00:54:48.160
Right

1089
00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:51.390
... Sumter Landing, and the developer for the developer-owned courses.

1090
00:54:51.450 --> 00:54:54.870
The AAC portion of what they're moving forward with is

1091
00:54:54.950 --> 00:54:56.750
$288,000.

1092
00:54:58.150 --> 00:55:01.770
Option two, if they were to do the long-range

1093
00:55:01.830 --> 00:55:05.550
readers and then reissue all of the gate cards to

1094
00:55:05.630 --> 00:55:09.230
new properties to each homeowner, the total cost would've been

1095
00:55:09.350 --> 00:55:12.970
3.3 million with the AAC portion at

1096
00:55:13.190 --> 00:55:14.630
868,000.

1097
00:55:18.230 --> 00:55:22.190
Since we're expressing opinions here only, I will first of all state that I

1098
00:55:22.230 --> 00:55:22.870
do go to

1099
00:55:24.010 --> 00:55:27.510
many of the AAC meetings, and I will be actually going to the budget meeting coming

1100
00:55:27.590 --> 00:55:27.710
up.

1101
00:55:29.270 --> 00:55:30.510
Keeping in mind that our

1102
00:55:31.870 --> 00:55:34.370
streets, with the exception of villas,

1103
00:55:35.950 --> 00:55:39.630
are publicly owned streets, owned by Sumter County, we

1104
00:55:39.710 --> 00:55:40.050
cannot

1105
00:55:41.670 --> 00:55:44.610
prohibit anybody from getting into our areas.

1106
00:55:45.530 --> 00:55:48.270
And they do that because we have a red button there, and you can push the button

1107
00:55:48.330 --> 00:55:49.870
and you don't need a card at all.

1108
00:55:51.290 --> 00:55:54.950
I guess my general feeling is that why do we spend money to

1109
00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:57.230
have a card that all it does is erase a gate,

1110
00:55:58.130 --> 00:56:01.530
why don't we just have it so you can drive up and have the gate automatically open

1111
00:56:01.570 --> 00:56:03.950
up for you after it takes a picture of your license plate?

1112
00:56:04.810 --> 00:56:08.410
You go in, gate closes, you don't have to worry about cards at all.

1113
00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:10.290
That's my opinion.

1114
00:56:12.170 --> 00:56:13.170
Just one final-

1115
00:56:13.230 --> 00:56:13.850
Yeah

1116
00:56:13.860 --> 00:56:15.490
... question, if I might pose it to Carrie.

1117
00:56:16.150 --> 00:56:16.910
Any solution

1118
00:56:18.170 --> 00:56:21.410
that the AAC would be in favor of,

1119
00:56:22.970 --> 00:56:26.910
PWAC would also need to agree to the

1120
00:56:26.950 --> 00:56:29.580
same solution so we wouldn't have different cards-

1121
00:56:29.930 --> 00:56:30.170
Yeah

1122
00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:31.040
... north of 466.

1123
00:56:31.430 --> 00:56:32.210
That's correct.

1124
00:56:32.230 --> 00:56:32.630
That's correct, yes, sir.

1125
00:56:32.750 --> 00:56:33.410
That's correct. Yeah.

1126
00:56:33.730 --> 00:56:33.890
Yeah.

1127
00:56:35.170 --> 00:56:35.530
Okay.

1128
00:56:38.270 --> 00:56:39.190
Where are we at here?

1129
00:56:40.530 --> 00:56:40.930
After-

1130
00:56:42.730 --> 00:56:43.630
District council report.

1131
00:56:43.680 --> 00:56:43.680
Yep. District council report.

1132
00:56:43.690 --> 00:56:44.330
No reports.

1133
00:56:44.970 --> 00:56:45.530
No reports?

1134
00:56:47.470 --> 00:56:51.250
Okay. Supervisor comments. Mr. Swyers, you have something on reflective

1135
00:56:51.330 --> 00:56:51.770
markers.

1136
00:56:52.470 --> 00:56:52.850
I do.

1137
00:56:54.710 --> 00:56:58.459
Having driven on the golf cart path in District 5,

1138
00:56:59.930 --> 00:57:02.570
I found that the fact that they use the,

1139
00:57:03.590 --> 00:57:06.730
I think they're called reflective pavement markers, RPMs,

1140
00:57:08.070 --> 00:57:11.290
on the cart paths on Buena Vista.

1141
00:57:12.350 --> 00:57:15.650
I just found that those things are amazing, especially at night

1142
00:57:15.890 --> 00:57:17.610
when you can see where you're going.

1143
00:57:19.270 --> 00:57:22.890
And so I was looking at our cart

1144
00:57:22.930 --> 00:57:26.850
paths in District 2. The only significant one we really have is

1145
00:57:26.870 --> 00:57:29.410
the cart path on El Camino Real.

1146
00:57:30.490 --> 00:57:33.910
And what I'd like to do is to suggest that as

1147
00:57:33.950 --> 00:57:37.590
supervisors, we, not at this point in trying to approve anything, but

1148
00:57:38.550 --> 00:57:42.230
I'd like to at least approve the fact that maybe we should at least take a look at

1149
00:57:42.310 --> 00:57:42.970
the use of

1150
00:57:43.790 --> 00:57:46.770
these RPMs on our cart paths,

1151
00:57:47.830 --> 00:57:51.230
by the fact that we could have procurement take a look at the cost.

1152
00:57:51.990 --> 00:57:55.190
They obviously have done this before, because I'm sure they did it for District 5,

1153
00:57:55.450 --> 00:57:56.490
so it shouldn't be a big deal.

1154
00:57:57.390 --> 00:57:58.590
Possibly, maybe

1155
00:57:59.630 --> 00:58:02.770
Mike Harris has some issues with regard to our cart paths.

1156
00:58:02.810 --> 00:58:06.770
I don't want to put reflector markers down and find two years later we have to redo

1157
00:58:06.810 --> 00:58:10.690
the cart paths. So that has to be included into the

1158
00:58:10.810 --> 00:58:14.410
mix, but I'd like to at least move forward, at least get some information so

1159
00:58:14.450 --> 00:58:18.430
that we could come back at some point in the near future with some

1160
00:58:18.530 --> 00:58:22.340
answers. And then at that point, as a board of supervisors, decide

1161
00:58:22.550 --> 00:58:25.850
whether or not we want to go to reflective markers on our cart paths.

1162
00:58:25.990 --> 00:58:26.519
So that was-

1163
00:58:26.690 --> 00:58:26.770
Yeah

1164
00:58:27.010 --> 00:58:30.770
... what I'd like to suggest as a motion that we make to at least have

1165
00:58:30.870 --> 00:58:33.210
them proceed to at least gather some data.

1166
00:58:34.910 --> 00:58:36.430
Any discussion on that? I

1167
00:58:37.590 --> 00:58:41.510
like the idea, because I think it's very difficult

1168
00:58:41.550 --> 00:58:45.230
as you have headlights, especially on our long stretch there along El Camino, that

1169
00:58:45.950 --> 00:58:46.790
any help for

1170
00:58:48.310 --> 00:58:51.830
those in our group getting older, some of us aren't, but

1171
00:58:52.330 --> 00:58:52.760
others are,

1172
00:58:53.730 --> 00:58:54.710
that would be helpful to

1173
00:58:55.830 --> 00:58:58.110
have something like that. Any other comments about that?

1174
00:58:58.270 --> 00:58:59.100
Can I say something real quick?

1175
00:58:59.100 --> 00:58:59.750
Yeah. Go ahead.

1176
00:58:59.770 --> 00:59:03.429
Instead of putting them reflectors down there, why can't they fix the bumps on some

1177
00:59:03.450 --> 00:59:04.850
of them golf cart paths?

1178
00:59:05.130 --> 00:59:05.220
That-

1179
00:59:05.290 --> 00:59:07.410
I mean, some of them, you can't even keep your feet on the pedals.

1180
00:59:08.290 --> 00:59:10.550
That's a totally different issue that we're not talking about now.

1181
00:59:10.560 --> 00:59:11.000
It's a huge issue.

1182
00:59:11.020 --> 00:59:11.020
Yeah.

1183
00:59:11.370 --> 00:59:14.450
Just spend the money to fix the bumps, then put the reflectors.

1184
00:59:14.930 --> 00:59:18.220
Well, does anybody have any reaction to Tom's?

1185
00:59:18.290 --> 00:59:21.790
I guess that would be a budget item that we would look at as we get-

1186
00:59:21.820 --> 00:59:21.820
Yeah

1187
00:59:21.820 --> 00:59:22.990
... closer to that again.

1188
00:59:23.510 --> 00:59:27.150
Yes. We wouldn't need necessarily a motion to gather

1189
00:59:27.250 --> 00:59:31.189
data. We can certainly work on getting a cost estimate of what it would take

1190
00:59:31.330 --> 00:59:34.830
to put them on the District 2 paths, and then you can

1191
00:59:35.590 --> 00:59:38.590
let us know if you would like to put that in your budget for next year.

1192
00:59:38.630 --> 00:59:42.230
Yeah, that's fine. That's really all I'm asking for is just so that

1193
00:59:42.550 --> 00:59:45.030
as a group, we say, "Go ahead and do this."

1194
00:59:45.130 --> 00:59:46.310
We would just need consensus.

1195
00:59:46.390 --> 00:59:46.430
Okay.

1196
00:59:46.450 --> 00:59:50.330
This would be the timing for that. Are we in

1197
00:59:50.390 --> 00:59:53.670
agreement that we should just get that kind of information? Jim?

1198
00:59:54.250 --> 00:59:55.550
I'd like to make one comment.

1199
00:59:55.610 --> 00:59:55.790
Okay.

1200
00:59:55.930 --> 00:59:58.230
If I'm being honest. I can give you a figure, Tom.

1201
00:59:59.050 --> 00:59:59.990
Oh, okay.

1202
01:00:00.210 --> 01:00:02.010
On April 24th, when we had the meeting

1203
01:00:03.290 --> 01:00:06.090
for the cart multi-model path discussion group,

1204
01:00:07.330 --> 01:00:11.190
they call them RMAs. There's 969

1205
01:00:11.270 --> 01:00:15.090
quantity in District 2, 471 a unit price, amount

1206
01:00:15.100 --> 01:00:16.150
$4,563.

1207
01:00:17.290 --> 01:00:19.550
If you ask, what the hell's the guy's name?

1208
01:00:21.490 --> 01:00:21.770
Cliff.

1209
01:00:22.439 --> 01:00:22.439
Cliff-

1210
01:00:22.470 --> 01:00:22.710
Weiner

1211
01:00:22.970 --> 01:00:24.350
... Weiner, who you're good friends with,

1212
01:00:26.510 --> 01:00:28.070
he's the one who put issue the report.

1213
01:00:28.250 --> 01:00:30.870
So the reason I'm bringing it up, I have the thing with the figure on here.

1214
01:00:31.110 --> 01:00:31.120
Okay.

1215
01:00:31.210 --> 01:00:33.830
So for the product under $5,000, is that what you said?

1216
01:00:33.890 --> 01:00:35.690
Well, that's what he put out.

1217
01:00:36.110 --> 01:00:36.330
Well, I-

1218
01:00:36.670 --> 01:00:38.410
I don't know if it's changed. This is from 24th.

1219
01:00:38.730 --> 01:00:42.470
I'd prefer to have this official from procurement and

1220
01:00:42.810 --> 01:00:44.050
property management, et cetera.

1221
01:00:44.670 --> 01:00:47.750
Are we okay with just directing staff to get us that number?

1222
01:00:47.970 --> 01:00:51.590
I think that's a good safety... There's a lot of focus on

1223
01:00:51.630 --> 01:00:52.010
Morris-

1224
01:00:52.070 --> 01:00:52.080
It's a safety issue, yeah

1225
01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:53.509
... but we should make everything safe.

1226
01:00:53.610 --> 01:00:57.246
Okay.So we'll add this to old business and then provide an updated cost

1227
01:00:57.326 --> 01:00:57.746
estimate.

1228
01:00:59.926 --> 01:01:02.086
Others? Jim, supervisor comments?

1229
01:01:02.646 --> 01:01:02.656
I-

1230
01:01:03.546 --> 01:01:03.866
The boss

1231
01:01:03.886 --> 01:01:06.126
... I got a couple things. Number one,

1232
01:01:07.806 --> 01:01:11.586
I went to this recent QA meeting last month, I

1233
01:01:11.666 --> 01:01:15.026
guess, and I didn't see any council or

1234
01:01:16.206 --> 01:01:19.746
management there at all, but it was referenced that we got a lot of

1235
01:01:20.246 --> 01:01:24.126
tortoise enthusiasts in the villages,

1236
01:01:24.286 --> 01:01:28.116
District 2 anyway, that elaborated on how much knowledge they had and

1237
01:01:28.166 --> 01:01:31.106
research that they'd done. It really didn't move

1238
01:01:31.166 --> 01:01:34.686
anybody. The other thing is, the

1239
01:01:35.046 --> 01:01:38.346
QA meeting is not a QA meeting. It is really a

1240
01:01:38.426 --> 01:01:42.316
meeting to impart some ideas

1241
01:01:42.386 --> 01:01:45.206
on some people or attendees that come here.

1242
01:01:45.626 --> 01:01:48.946
The ACA representative was there, but

1243
01:01:49.806 --> 01:01:49.966
they

1244
01:01:51.026 --> 01:01:54.846
didn't have any Q&A answers. They imposed

1245
01:01:54.866 --> 01:01:57.486
their beliefs on the other people there.

1246
01:01:57.546 --> 01:02:01.186
That's not a Q&A meeting. I've been to several Q&A meetings that were

1247
01:02:01.226 --> 01:02:04.586
informative. They were not

1248
01:02:05.006 --> 01:02:08.726
to express ideas to the people that attended

1249
01:02:08.786 --> 01:02:09.226
those

1250
01:02:11.486 --> 01:02:13.506
meetings. I think everybody should have

1251
01:02:14.326 --> 01:02:17.526
their own ideas, and they should express their opinion.

1252
01:02:18.146 --> 01:02:18.646
And I

1253
01:02:19.526 --> 01:02:22.706
believe that meeting is not a QA meeting, and

1254
01:02:22.746 --> 01:02:26.666
that's one thing. The other thing is, I don't think anybody

1255
01:02:28.086 --> 01:02:32.026
should hold two positions in any district office, whether

1256
01:02:32.046 --> 01:02:34.276
it's the AAC and the district or

1257
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the

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ARC or whatever it is, should hold a position

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other than the position that they have because you're going to have outside

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influence on the other people or the

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supervisors or whatever is here. I think

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that's what we need to put a motion on in District 2,

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that

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we only hold one position, and that's it.

1265
01:03:01.066 --> 01:03:04.886
Isn't that already the case? I mean, you can't be on the AAC and a

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district supervisor.

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01:03:06.986 --> 01:03:07.526
That's the case.

1268
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Yeah.

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Other comments, Jim?

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01:03:13.586 --> 01:03:14.066
No comment.

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01:03:15.526 --> 01:03:15.716
Ron?

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No.

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I would just want to congratulate the staff on the fine job of the

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annual report.

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Amen.

1276
01:03:23.466 --> 01:03:27.406
There's a lot of really good information and helpful to

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us as supervisors. As people ask us questions, we can appear to be smart.

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01:03:31.086 --> 01:03:34.806
All we have to do is go look at the document and give somebody an answer, but

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very nicely done.

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01:03:36.646 --> 01:03:36.986
Thank you.

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01:03:37.246 --> 01:03:37.626
Thank you.

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01:03:38.866 --> 01:03:42.105
Anything else for the good of the order?

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Mr. Chairman.

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01:03:44.956 --> 01:03:44.956
Thank you.

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I just-