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All right.

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Nine o'clock. Uh,

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gonna call the five sixteen twenty twenty five Middleton,

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a CDD Board meeting to order.

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We, we have a quorum. Yes, sir.

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Uh, at this time, if everyone could stand for the Pledge

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of Allegiance, followed by a moment of silence.

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All right. I want to welcome anybody.

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I don't know if we have anybody in the audience

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that's not here to talk, but if there are, uh,

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welcome to this meeting.

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Uh, anybody have any comments for items

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that are not on the agenda?

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Okay. Seeing none.

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We'll move into item number two,

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the law enforcement quarterly updates. Kenny?

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Yes, sir. So, uh,

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we do have a representative from

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Wildwood Police Department here.

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I know in the past, this board has, uh, asked about, um,

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engaging Wildwood PD at this board meeting

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and talk about any type of issues going out there.

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Some, we get some comments from residents about speeding

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or traffic issues or vandalism.

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So the board has requested

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that the Wawa Police Department make a regular appearance on

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a quarterly basis to kind of give updates of issues

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that they're seeing, how they're being proactive

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and how they're dealing with the residents,

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uh, out in the Middleton.

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A So would that Captain the floor is

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Yours. Good morning.

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Uh, thank you for having me today,

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and congratulations on your first meeting here.

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Thankful to be part of that. I'm Captain Aaron Kinder

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of the Wildwood Police Department.

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Uh, gonna talk a little bit about, uh, some of the concerns

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that you had addressed, uh, with the speeding, um, uh,

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traffic vandalism, uh, and such things.

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So, of course, we take a proactive approach to everything,

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uh, but we don't know what we don't know.

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So what we're gonna do is we're gonna ask the same out

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of Middleton as we do all of our other communities.

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If there is an issue with vandalism, parking, speeding,

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or anything like that, please reach out to us.

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Uh, I do have some

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of the contacts in order to get ahold of us.

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Um, one of them is going to be the dispatch.

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It's a non-emergency dispatch

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for both Sumter County and Wildwood.

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We're dispatched out of the same call center.

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Uh, that's the non-emergency line.

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Also, we've got our, uh, line to the police department.

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If somebody needs an officer dispatched, we don't recommend

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that they actually call the police department.

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Uh, that's not where our dispatch is.

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Uh, but for records or anything

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that they would need from the police department

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that is not dispatched, um, they're welcome to do that.

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And then the website, if people have, uh, concerns,

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it could be two o'clock in the morning

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and they're like, Hey, I just, I want to send an email out.

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I wanna reach out. We do have our website,

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which has a contact us.

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They can put in as much information as they need to within

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that contact as far as whenever they do reach out.

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Um, as far as speeding, uh, parking concerns,

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traffic concerns, uh, the more details, the better, uh,

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location timeframes where this is an issue is always key.

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Uh, you know, it might be an issue at, you know,

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say nine o'clock in the morning,

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seven o'clock in the morning,

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whenever people are going to work, might not be an

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issue at nine o'clock at night.

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Uh, obviously those are two extreme differences,

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but it, it really does, if we watch the traffic out here,

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there's a big difference

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between seven 30 traffic, 9:00 AM traffic.

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Um, so if you guys allow me, I'll leave these contacts

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so you guys can put 'em on the website

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so people can have them.

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Uh, with that said, um,

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I did pull up some statistical data just to,

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to let the residents know we are present.

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Uh, and it's kind of like one of those things

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that they're just feeder that's down your road

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and you don't see an officer.

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Nothing's being done. I completely understand that.

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Uh, but we are out here, uh, just from April 1st till,

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uh, the 14th 15th of this month,

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we had 138 traffic stops were that were done by our,

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our officers within the Middleton area.

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That is just within Middleton.

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Out of that 138 traffic stops, we issued 76 citations.

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We had, uh, 18 criminal citations.

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We had 18 written warnings, and we had 21 verbal warnings.

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Um, also, I looked at our calls for service.

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This is kind of where I'm asking the community

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to let us know what's going on so far for calls for service.

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Uh, I've heard something about juveniles.

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Uh, we had one call for service for juvenile.

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We had three phone complaints,

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which could range anywhere from parking complaints

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to speeding complaints, but we only had three of those

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for that same time period.

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Traffic enforcement, we only had two.

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So we had done 138 traffic stops in the areas

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that we had seen issues, um, places

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where we've had accidents or we know that there's an issue.

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Um, but again, the community has only reached out

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and we only got two, uh, traffic complaints.

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I'm assuming those were addressed.

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And then we only had one parking complaint.

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So again, if,

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if residents are having issues, please let us know.

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Um, we build our enforcement, um,

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and where we're gonna send our traffic units based upon the

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data that people send us.

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So we're happy to, uh, change that.

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Also, increase, uh, enforcement in certain areas.

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Uh, and then I heard something about vandalism as well.

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Um, if there is anything that's vandalized,

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please call law enforcement.

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Uh, if it's actively happening, call 9 1 1.

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If it's afterwards, you're, you're able

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to use the non-emergency line, we'll go out there,

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we'll create a report, we'll see what the data is.

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Um, but anything that, you know,

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the residents in Middleton need, please reach out.

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We'd be happy to, uh, accommodate and then work with them

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and, and make sure that they're covered, um, the best

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that they, they're able to be covered.

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Any questions from this?

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I know you guys hear some things out there in the community,

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so we wanna make sure, um, the PD was here to address it,

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and we can have 'em come back on a quarterly basis.

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Is that fine with y'all? Um, as far

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as giving quarterly updates, um, to address any type

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of issues or they can, you know, inform you of the stats

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and how they're addressing some of the, uh,

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parking speeding and anything like that? Absolutely.

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I think the question is, how do you make the residents

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know that all this good stuff is happening?

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Because what they see is they don't get, just like me,

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I didn't get not aware of great work.

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So they don't think its perception's reality, right?

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They don't think anything may be addressed.

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You know, I don't know how you, I don't,

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you put this facts on the line Middleton,

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or we want to maybe freak people out,

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but I'm just sharing with you that right.

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People don't, don't see that things are being addressed.

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They just, you know, lack of information is, you know, I,

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I have no clue what the answer is,

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By the way. Yeah,

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we can certainly, um, I don't know.

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We can probably work, maybe put a link on Middleton a's

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website to the PDs website

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where they have all the stats

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and all the information on there. I

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Don't know. Well, generally we

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don't post the stats.

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We're welcome to get those types of things.

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Uh, a lot of it is gonna be based upon meetings like this.

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Um, we do have transparency whenever people do reach out.

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Uh, we try to be transparent.

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And then the big thing is, is

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whenever the residents feel like, Hey, the issue is here.

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And, and that's kind of what I was saying,

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is it doesn't matter how much, and,

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and we realize this, it doesn't matter

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how much enforcement this could have been,

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that number could have been, uh, instead of 138,

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it could have been 1,038.

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But if you as a resident are having an issue on your road

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and not a single one

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of those 1038 traffic stops was on your

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road, you still have an issue.

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So what I'd like is the residents to understand more

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so than the data, um, understand

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that if they're having an issue, let us know

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and then we can come and address it on a personal

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basis, uh, for them.

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So, and I think that's one of the things of understanding

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that it's not necessarily just how much we're doing,

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it's we're doing it for each one of the issues

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that are cropping up.

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Um, and them understanding that they can reach out to us

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and let us know what issues they're having

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so we can address it for them.

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We do get, um, instant reporting, um, about speeding

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or parking and everything.

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And we do steer right to Wildwood PD to say, you know,

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this is a law enforcement matter.

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And, and I do address it with the city manager,

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so I know the city manager then gives it to the chief.

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So those avenues are open that we do communicate

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with the police department.

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You know, you got the Facebook group site,

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they're all like stockpiling around on there.

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You know, I just, like I said, you know, I don't know,

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or if, if, if I know Facebook is not the more

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of the communication, but like I said, letting people know

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because yes, I agree.

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Like people only care about their issues. Yeah.

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But they also, if they also hear

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that issues are being addressed, it does help them know

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that these things are being

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Addressed. And I

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know, uh, the police department has been an active

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member of the, uh, the, uh, Middleton Mingle

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and they're out there being proactive.

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Yeah. They have a booth. Uh, so people come talk to 'em

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and they're building those relationships, uh,

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with the residents, let 'em know that, you know,

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if there's issues, you know, call the numbers available.

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Yeah. Just not everyone goes

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to the middle and then go Yeah.

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To the mode of communication.

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Today, what's effective is social media.

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So I, I'm just sharing with you that,

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like I said, it's a challenge.

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How do you let folks know about that?

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If they have an issue, they can go here

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and things have been addressed.

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Because once again, perception's reality,

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and if people know that things are being addressed,

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at least they feel better, may not feel better

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for themselves, if they got an issue,

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at least the other folks who don't have issues say, okay,

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things are being addressed. Right.

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I mean, not, I'm in the Facebook group

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and I can see that stuff too.

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And I mean, that's generally the people.

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It's the quickest way for people to complain.

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So that's where a lot of complaints I see are.

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But I mean, I can make a post, but kind of update. Okay.

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As a resident, I mean, yeah.

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Um, I, I gotta, you know, straddle that line

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of resident board member,

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but um, you know, just kind of,

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this is all public information of what he told us

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and some of the, here's how to,

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We are on Facebook, um,

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and people are welcome to actually reach out on Facebook

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and we can bring that up as well.

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Yeah. So a lot

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of the different social medias, we do have a platform.

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So if people are on there

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and they would like to have constructive reach out.

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Yeah. Um, and not just make a, a post where, you know,

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their community or friends can see it

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and actually want to post it on our social media,

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we'd be happy to take a look at that as well.

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I'll try to update some of that stuff.

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Kind of put that stuff out there for the residents,

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at least the ones that are on the group.

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Yeah. Anyway, this is very educational. Thank you. Yeah.

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Yes, sir. Right. I mean, I had no

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Call, but yeah, like hearing there was only, you know,

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two call complaints.

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When you see on the Facebook group, they're like,

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oh my god, oh, that's parking.

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And you know, like 20 people

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comment, I'm having the same issue. I'm like, well,

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It becomes reality. Yeah.

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And we do, we do hear the parking issues

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and we do, most of the time it's construction

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and it's like, you know, they are building homes

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and there will be vehicles in the streets

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and you know, they built your home as well

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and they had vehicles in the streets.

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We try to make sure they understand the focus. Yeah.

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It'll, it'll, it will calm down eventually. So

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Thank you. Alright.

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Appreciate You coming. If you're good with that,

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I'd like to leave this contact information. You

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Can give it to the clerk and

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she'll take care of it. Thanks you very

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Much. Yep. Thank you.

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Alright, thank you. Okay. All right.

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Moving on to number three,

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The consent agenda.

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Is there any board member that'd like to comment

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or discuss anything on the consent agenda?

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Alright, seeing none, we need a motion

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and a second to approve the consent agenda as it is.

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Motion to approve Second kind of person, a second.

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All those in favor say aye. Aye. All motion passes

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For Very good. Thank you.

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All right. New business four A.

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Yes, sir. So, um, Mr.

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Cleary will be approaching the podium

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to go over your FY 25 26 budget review.

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So this is the initial look at the budget.

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We've taken everything into consideration, uh, that you have

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provided, uh, some information to us that you wanted to see.

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You'll see a couple things in here.

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Uh, basically if there's no changes to anything, it's a,

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what we see is a 0% increase for the residents.

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Uh, we did incorporate at the end you'll see the camera

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project and the lighting project.

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That does increase maintenance assessments.

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If you want to go that direction, just know

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that next month in June when we meet on June 6th, Sixth,

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um, so it is early in June, we will need a quorum for

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that meeting because that is when we do approve the

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preliminary budget at that time,

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whatever we set the maintenance assessment rate increase,

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if there is an increased assessed that you want to pursue

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in September when we do the final budget,

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it cannot be any higher than what you set in June.

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So think through, listen to Ms.

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Cleary's presentation, especially when you hit the lighting

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project and the sports court's lighting

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and the cameras, uh, to see if that's where you want to go.

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Um, I haven't heard any more, uh, information

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and communication back to me about those issues.

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I don't know if you guys have been hearing anything,

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but, um, so with that, I'll let Karen go through,

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through the, uh, presentation

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and you certainly can have some communication with her, me,

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and amongst yourself in the direction you

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wish to go. So Karen.

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Okay. Thank you. Good morning.

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Karen Clary, assistant Budget Director.

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I'm here today to review the Middleton Community Development

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District, a recommended budget for fiscal year 25 26

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as prepared by staff.

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First, we're going to take a look at your revenue comparison

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from your fiscal year 24 25 amended budget.

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As you can see, there is a large increase in your total

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maintenance assessment revenue.

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However, this is solely due to the inclusion

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of phase two in this amount, not due

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to an increase in your maintenance assessment rates.

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Rates from phase one property seeing no change in fiscal

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year 25 26, based on an increase in your cash balances,

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your interest income is predicted to be about 20% higher.

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And fiscal year 25 26 contributions from the

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developer dropped significantly.

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Again, based on the inclusion of phase two

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and fiscal year 25 26 maintenance assessments.

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Fiscal year 25 26 contributions from developer total

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of $2,124

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and are an offset to the Architectural Review Committee

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and their deed compliance services.

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For the service agreement, your additions

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to working capital are budgeted at $223,207,

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which is a 663% increase

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to your fiscal year 24 25 edition of 29,000 2 37.

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As you can see from the pie chart,

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your Middleton project wide fees make up approximately 84%

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of your overall appropriations.

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Repairs and maintenance are budgeted at 81,000

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and utility services are at 16,000 for the year.

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Both categories see a decrease from fiscal year 24 25.

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Professional services make up around 11%

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of your total budget at just over $331,000.

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Other operating expenditures

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and storm water management fee expenses round out the budget

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at 38,020 7,000 respectively.

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In comparison to 24 25, you can see that utility services,

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repairs and maintenance and storm water management fees all

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see a decrease and max fees see

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an increase per the allocation.

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Largely based on that addition of phase two

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and your other operating expenditures

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and professional services see an increase due to

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increased legal advertising and insurance costs

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and an increase in management

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and tax collector fees based on the cost allocation schedule

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and the maintenance assessments.

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Looking at your budget variances,

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management fees increased $18,414

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per the allocation schedule.

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Tax collector fees increased 27,475 due

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to the additional phase two properties being assessed.

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You can see a large decrease in irrigation water costs

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of over $45,000 due

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to phase two properties being turned over

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and maintained under the project wide recurring landscape.

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Maintenance costs see a decrease of $11,000.

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Based on that turnover

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of phase two properties now being maintained under project

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wide, along with irrigation repairs seen a $21,000

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reduction for the same reason.

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Conversely, gate maintenance costs increase $18,500 due

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to the turnover of residential gates.

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Stormwater management fees decreased $20,935

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per the cost allocation.

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And finally, as previously stated,

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Middleton project wide fees are budgeted

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to increase just under $862,000 per the cost allocation

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schedule due to those additional areas being turned over.

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Um, looking at your accessible acreage,

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the accessible acreage is 415.89 acres,

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which represents 87.19% of Middleton project wide.

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The 50% increase to your portion is due

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to the additional maintenance

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for district day phase two properties in fiscal year 25 26.

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Looking at your five year budget estimate for revenues,

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we are keeping your maintenance assessment steady at just

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under $3.3 million annually due

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to the uncertainty of the market.

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Currently, we have kept your miscellaneous revenue

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flat for all five years.

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Based on current projections, you are budgeted

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to add approximately $1,110,000

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to your working capital over the five year period

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with a fairly consistent addition of

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around $220,000 per year.

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Your five year budget estimate

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for expenditures has Middleton project wide fees budgeted

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to remain flat over the period per the allocations.

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And your other appropriations mainly have minor

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CPI driven increases.

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Next, we'll look at your working capital balance over the

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five year period due

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to the annual additions to working capital.

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By fiscal year 29 30, your fund balance is budgeted

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to be just shy of $1.5 million.

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Staff is recommending

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that the district establish a general reserve fund.

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Once the working Capital fund balance exceeds the four month

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operating expense target balance,

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and based on current projections,

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it looks like the board could possibly establish that fund

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for fiscal year 27 28.

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Looking at your fund balance forecast, your revenues do stay

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above your expenditures throughout the five years.

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Making sure your operating expenses are covered

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by your operating revenues on an annual basis puts the

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district on stable financial ground.

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And as you can see, your fund balance does grow steadily

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over the forecasted timeframe.

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Next, we have your debt service funds.

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Looking at the two phases for your debt service funds,

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they are meeting the amortization schedules.

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Your phase one debt service fund has a healthy reserve

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balance of approximately $6.3 million.

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And in its initial budget year,

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the phase two debt service fund is budgeted

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to end the fiscal year with a balance

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of just over 1.3 million as requested.

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We have included information

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for both the sport court lighting project

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and the security camera project in this budget presentation.

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First we'll look at the sport court lighting project,

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which if approved, consists of the installation

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of LED light poles at several recreational facilities.

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During the January, 2025 board meeting, DPM was requested

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to provide information, uh,

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for lighting throughout the basketball, tennis,

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and pickleball courts at Dry Creek Lake Harlow, Thurston,

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and QA recreational facilities.

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Each court will have four design approved 15 foot fiberglass

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poles with four LED lights per pole.

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Lighting would be on a timer basis based on the, uh,

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hours deemed necessary.

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Estimated costs vary depending on the number of needed poles

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and the range of nearby electrical supply

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and include permitting, boring

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electrical hookups, materials and installation.

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Dry Creek and Lake Harlow each includes basketball, tennis,

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and pickleball courts

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and have an estimated cost of $105,000 per location.

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Thurston and Den have estimated costs

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of $70,000 per location as they include only basketball

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and pickleball courts.

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In addition to the one-time cost of installation,

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there are also annual expenses associated with this project.

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Electricity would be provided by CCO

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and charges would be based on usage Costs are estimated at

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around $50 per month per location.

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Annual maintenance has an estimated cost of $7,500

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and would include minimal repairs such

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as electrical maintenance, bulb replacements,

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fixture repairs, and full painting and repairs.

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Uh, next we have the requested Middleton camera,

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a project which we have seen briefly before.

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DPM was asked to provide information

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and cost impacts for the installation of security cameras

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and the same recreational facilities, lake Harlow,

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dry Creek Thurston, and Q Aden.

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A total of six cameras, two verif focal lenses,

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and four fixed lenses are recommended at each location.

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The Village's technology service,

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or Solutions group would provide all hardware and software

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and perform installation of the cameras

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for an estimated total cost of $30,912.

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For all locations. Annual maintenance

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and monitoring services would be

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provided by TSG in community watch.

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The total annual cost

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for all locations is estimated at $16,500

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and would include continuous monitoring of all camera views,

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daily management of camera systems and security protocols,

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and periodic video requests

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for law enforcement or risk management.

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So to summarize, the total cost

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of the sports port lighting project is $350,000.

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That would require approximately an 11% increase

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to maintenance assessment rates in order

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to fund the project as a whole.

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The camera project has a total cost

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of $30,912 in ongoing annual maintenance costs

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of $16,500.

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This project would require a 2% maintenance assessment

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increase to be funded in total overall cost associated

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with both projects total $397,412,

515
00:22:20.365 --> 00:22:22.425
and would require a 12% increase

516
00:22:22.425 --> 00:22:23.745
to your maintenance assessment rate

517
00:22:23.745 --> 00:22:24.825
to fund them concurrently.

518
00:22:25.405 --> 00:22:26.505
It should be noted though

519
00:22:26.505 --> 00:22:30.465
that since the $350,000 costs associated with installation

520
00:22:30.465 --> 00:22:33.905
of the light poles is just a one-time expense, you could,

521
00:22:34.125 --> 00:22:36.265
uh, decrease your maintenance assessment rate

522
00:22:36.395 --> 00:22:37.545
after that increase.

523
00:22:38.165 --> 00:22:40.945
Um, although there is no formal recommendation from staff

524
00:22:40.945 --> 00:22:43.505
for a maintenance assessment increase in this five year

525
00:22:43.505 --> 00:22:45.225
budget, we did want to provide you

526
00:22:45.575 --> 00:22:48.865
with the project information along with some information

527
00:22:48.865 --> 00:22:50.745
regarding what a 1% change looks like.

528
00:22:52.205 --> 00:22:54.145
Um, with your current maintenance assessment rate,

529
00:22:54.175 --> 00:22:56.825
each 1% increase would garner an additional

530
00:22:56.825 --> 00:22:59.505
$32,628 in revenue.

531
00:22:59.925 --> 00:23:03.385
Tax collector fees would increase by around $680,

532
00:23:03.765 --> 00:23:06.745
and there would be approximately $5,000 in other expenses

533
00:23:06.815 --> 00:23:09.185
such as legal, advertising, printing, and postage.

534
00:23:09.925 --> 00:23:11.345
So at this time, we are requesting

535
00:23:11.345 --> 00:23:12.785
that the board give staff direction

536
00:23:12.785 --> 00:23:15.225
for your maintenance assessment taking these proposed

537
00:23:15.225 --> 00:23:16.665
projects into consideration.

538
00:23:17.005 --> 00:23:19.345
Please keep in mind that when you adopt the proposed budget

539
00:23:19.375 --> 00:23:22.145
next month in June, no further increases can be made

540
00:23:22.145 --> 00:23:23.425
to your maintenance assessment rates.

541
00:23:23.855 --> 00:23:26.345
That preliminary approval will include the maximum

542
00:23:26.445 --> 00:23:27.665
the rates can be set at.

543
00:23:27.945 --> 00:23:29.385
Although you can decide on a lower rate

544
00:23:29.385 --> 00:23:30.745
before final budget adoption.

545
00:23:31.485 --> 00:23:33.705
We ask for your feedback and direction.

546
00:23:34.435 --> 00:23:35.665
Thank you. You're welcome.

547
00:23:36.165 --> 00:23:38.625
Uh, open it up for board discussion,

548
00:23:38.905 --> 00:23:41.905
comments on the presentation and the, the two projects.

549
00:23:41.925 --> 00:23:46.805
And we need to give the folks a, a recommendation on

550
00:23:46.805 --> 00:23:48.885
how to move forward with those two projects.

551
00:23:49.065 --> 00:23:51.005
So I dunno if anybody wants to start.

552
00:23:51.865 --> 00:23:54.405
Um, well my first comment is Dry Creek

553
00:23:54.405 --> 00:23:55.485
doesn't have a tennis court,

554
00:23:56.225 --> 00:23:57.965
So no apologies.

555
00:23:59.745 --> 00:24:03.685
So that one may drop down to that 70 range.

556
00:24:05.425 --> 00:24:10.085
Um, I'm trying to think what are, do you know

557
00:24:10.085 --> 00:24:11.165
what our maintenance fees

558
00:24:11.305 --> 00:24:12.305
Are? I don't know, but I

559
00:24:12.305 --> 00:24:13.205
I do know this.

560
00:24:13.365 --> 00:24:15.605
I remember last time there was a meeting where a lot

561
00:24:15.605 --> 00:24:16.605
of people came upset

562
00:24:17.025 --> 00:24:18.965
and the maintenance fees came to increase.

563
00:24:20.145 --> 00:24:23.645
So the question that I have that I can't answer is,

564
00:24:24.865 --> 00:24:26.565
you know, really what subset

565
00:24:26.905 --> 00:24:29.285
of folks within Milton really want this?

566
00:24:30.215 --> 00:24:34.095
'cause look, there are probably a lot of households that

567
00:24:34.825 --> 00:24:36.975
would not outtake the lighting at night.

568
00:24:37.245 --> 00:24:38.295
They're not gonna go out there

569
00:24:38.295 --> 00:24:39.935
and be playing basketball and pickleball, right?

570
00:24:40.565 --> 00:24:42.895
What you have is a very small minority of folks

571
00:24:43.525 --> 00:24:44.535
that want this

572
00:24:44.915 --> 00:24:47.855
and everyone is now subsidizing the cost of their want.

573
00:24:48.435 --> 00:24:52.175
So the question is, you know, I think, you know, it's easy

574
00:24:52.195 --> 00:24:55.195
to spend on when people say, oh,

575
00:24:55.195 --> 00:24:57.035
well I'm gonna be directly responsible for this,

576
00:24:57.265 --> 00:24:59.675
then there's a different opinion on whether

577
00:24:59.905 --> 00:25:00.915
it's really needed.

578
00:25:01.055 --> 00:25:04.435
So I guess the question is, is there a way

579
00:25:04.615 --> 00:25:07.595
to share this information with the residents of Middleton?

580
00:25:08.015 --> 00:25:11.355
Say, Hey, here's what it would cost.

581
00:25:12.695 --> 00:25:16.655
You know, are you all ready to a survey? Yeah. Right.

582
00:25:16.755 --> 00:25:19.375
And then I think, I think overwhelmingly, I mean,

583
00:25:19.695 --> 00:25:21.135
I don't know about the the cameras,

584
00:25:21.395 --> 00:25:22.895
but take the lighting of the courts.

585
00:25:25.395 --> 00:25:28.115
I very much doubt more than 10%

586
00:25:28.215 --> 00:25:30.875
of the households are using would use it at night.

587
00:25:31.415 --> 00:25:33.435
The what you don't want is to put up this cost.

588
00:25:34.295 --> 00:25:35.795
And it's being, you know, once again,

589
00:25:35.915 --> 00:25:38.635
a very small group is subsidized being subsidized

590
00:25:38.695 --> 00:25:39.715
by the rest of the community.

591
00:25:40.335 --> 00:25:42.995
And what I don't want is I don't want the raising group

592
00:25:43.065 --> 00:25:44.635
that comes here and says,

593
00:25:44.635 --> 00:25:45.995
what the heck did you guys just do?

594
00:25:46.615 --> 00:25:49.035
So just to give you an idea, we did look at, if you went

595
00:25:49.035 --> 00:25:50.715
with both projects concurrently

596
00:25:50.735 --> 00:25:54.835
and needed that 12% increase, this is an average obviously,

597
00:25:54.975 --> 00:25:58.195
but it would be about a $385 increase

598
00:25:58.735 --> 00:26:01.555
per household in their assessment rate per year.

599
00:26:01.895 --> 00:26:04.635
So, um, per year. Per per year. Correct.

600
00:26:05.255 --> 00:26:07.915
Um, that is the annual. So, um,

601
00:26:08.475 --> 00:26:13.195
I think supervisor trend is, is is capturing the, uh,

602
00:26:13.815 --> 00:26:18.675
the, what, what I believe is are you going

603
00:26:18.675 --> 00:26:22.595
to make a decision based on a small minority of people

604
00:26:22.615 --> 00:26:27.225
who want a sports lighting and make everyone pay for it?

605
00:26:27.605 --> 00:26:29.625
And, and you do remember last year we had a

606
00:26:29.645 --> 00:26:30.865
big crowd here, right?

607
00:26:31.065 --> 00:26:32.465
I think staff has done a great job

608
00:26:32.565 --> 00:26:34.745
and putting together a proposal that says, Hey,

609
00:26:34.745 --> 00:26:35.785
we can keep this flat

610
00:26:36.405 --> 00:26:38.625
and we can still build your fund balance, which you need.

611
00:26:38.625 --> 00:26:39.905
You need to start building a fund balance.

612
00:26:40.265 --> 00:26:41.465
'cause there will be things in the future

613
00:26:41.575 --> 00:26:42.745
that you'll need to pay for.

614
00:26:42.745 --> 00:26:44.685
That a either comes up unexpectedly

615
00:26:44.905 --> 00:26:48.205
or helps fund any type of future increases to mitigate, uh,

616
00:26:48.275 --> 00:26:49.925
some, some, some of those increases.

617
00:26:49.945 --> 00:26:51.405
So, you know, the cameras,

618
00:26:52.005 --> 00:26:54.125
I mean we were hearing issues at the pool.

619
00:26:54.245 --> 00:26:55.485
I haven't heard any issues lately.

620
00:26:55.685 --> 00:26:57.365
I mean you heard the, uh, uh,

621
00:26:57.365 --> 00:26:58.805
the captain from the police department coming,

622
00:26:58.955 --> 00:27:00.485
they're not getting a lot of calls either.

623
00:27:00.665 --> 00:27:03.125
So I don't know if it's on just a lot of perception.

624
00:27:03.235 --> 00:27:05.325
Just a lot of people on Facebook, the chatter,

625
00:27:06.305 --> 00:27:07.965
we don't base opinions on Facebook.

626
00:27:08.345 --> 00:27:09.365
We can't do that. Yeah.

627
00:27:09.425 --> 00:27:12.605
Um, we just, we provide information that is factual

628
00:27:13.105 --> 00:27:15.645
and here it is and then, you know, now we have to make

629
00:27:15.645 --> 00:27:17.405
that decision on where we wanna move forward.

630
00:27:17.985 --> 00:27:19.725
And you definitely hear the vocal minority.

631
00:27:20.145 --> 00:27:23.365
Um, as far as the courts,

632
00:27:24.985 --> 00:27:26.225
I could see doing one court

633
00:27:27.725 --> 00:27:30.945
or one park, I don't think it would be needed at all.

634
00:27:30.945 --> 00:27:33.625
Four. I would like you would said I, they wouldn't be used.

635
00:27:34.125 --> 00:27:38.245
Um, I could see possibly just providing one

636
00:27:38.715 --> 00:27:41.365
that has lights for those residents

637
00:27:41.365 --> 00:27:42.405
that wanna do things at night.

638
00:27:42.665 --> 00:27:46.525
Um, you know, like Lake Carlow has two pickleball courts

639
00:27:46.745 --> 00:27:47.765
and has a tennis court.

640
00:27:47.945 --> 00:27:51.775
So, you know, if they want to do things at night, possibly

641
00:27:53.375 --> 00:27:54.425
just use one of 'em.

642
00:27:55.225 --> 00:27:57.035
That could be an option. Cut some cost.

643
00:27:57.375 --> 00:28:00.215
Um, but yeah, it,

644
00:28:02.595 --> 00:28:04.975
it would be nice to get their opinion,

645
00:28:06.355 --> 00:28:09.255
but I think that's kind of our role is

646
00:28:09.255 --> 00:28:10.895
to make the decision for 'em. So,

647
00:28:10.895 --> 00:28:13.215
Uh, yeah, I guess I'll say two things.

648
00:28:13.435 --> 00:28:17.615
One, appreciate that you guys came back with a, a budget

649
00:28:17.615 --> 00:28:20.455
that shows no increase year over year.

650
00:28:20.615 --> 00:28:22.855
I know it takes a, a lot of work to do

651
00:28:22.855 --> 00:28:24.295
that administratively,

652
00:28:24.315 --> 00:28:27.495
but also out in the field doing the things that it takes

653
00:28:27.635 --> 00:28:28.735
to, to make that happen.

654
00:28:28.955 --> 00:28:30.655
So appreciate that.

655
00:28:31.275 --> 00:28:33.775
Um, and, and like has sort of been said, you know,

656
00:28:34.235 --> 00:28:38.335
at the end of the day we're here representing the majority

657
00:28:38.635 --> 00:28:40.295
of folks in our district

658
00:28:40.395 --> 00:28:43.615
and to date I have not seen a,

659
00:28:43.815 --> 00:28:47.135
a majority consensus wanting either of those have.

660
00:28:47.515 --> 00:28:50.255
And I don't think either project at face

661
00:28:50.255 --> 00:28:51.375
value are bad projects.

662
00:28:51.695 --> 00:28:53.535
I think they both have merit,

663
00:28:54.275 --> 00:28:58.615
but until I see something where, uh, we have a, a group

664
00:28:58.675 --> 00:29:00.455
who obviously they will come out for things

665
00:29:00.455 --> 00:29:03.575
that they care about that that was demonstrated last year.

666
00:29:04.395 --> 00:29:08.495
Um, so until we have that kind of vocal support

667
00:29:08.595 --> 00:29:12.455
for the projects, to me it wouldn't be fiscally responsible

668
00:29:12.555 --> 00:29:15.295
for us to move forward with it until

669
00:29:15.875 --> 00:29:18.935
we have some demonstrative proof that a majority

670
00:29:18.935 --> 00:29:22.665
of residents would like to see either project that,

671
00:29:22.665 --> 00:29:26.125
that's my, in regards to the lights.

672
00:29:26.125 --> 00:29:27.765
Mm-hmm. The numbers that are listed,

673
00:29:28.225 --> 00:29:31.765
are these pulled from like a actual estimate

674
00:29:31.785 --> 00:29:35.005
of somebody doing the work address?

675
00:29:35.005 --> 00:29:36.005
That mic?

676
00:29:42.755 --> 00:29:44.765
Good morning. Mike Harris, district Property management?

677
00:29:44.785 --> 00:29:46.685
Yes. They were actual estimates Yes.

678
00:29:46.685 --> 00:29:49.005
Pulled from our contract. Like a ballpark number? Nope.

679
00:29:49.005 --> 00:29:50.685
We had a contractor go out and assess it.

680
00:29:50.985 --> 00:29:53.805
Of course you run may run into things during construction

681
00:29:53.805 --> 00:29:55.285
that may fluctuate that number a little bit.

682
00:29:55.285 --> 00:29:56.605
But they're, this should be pretty tight.

683
00:29:58.035 --> 00:29:58.505
Thank you.

684
00:30:04.805 --> 00:30:06.745
It, it just, and I'll just throw this out there.

685
00:30:06.825 --> 00:30:09.585
I mean, you can give us direction to come back next month

686
00:30:09.655 --> 00:30:13.155
with x keep in mind in September

687
00:30:13.575 --> 00:30:14.675
you don't have to go with that number.

688
00:30:14.735 --> 00:30:16.515
You can always go lower. You can't go higher.

689
00:30:16.655 --> 00:30:21.435
So, you know, if you guys want to have some communication,

690
00:30:21.625 --> 00:30:23.115
have some more con conversation.

691
00:30:23.515 --> 00:30:25.635
I mean, it's up to you. We just wanted

692
00:30:25.635 --> 00:30:27.955
to show you the options, you know, we can keep it flat.

693
00:30:28.815 --> 00:30:32.635
Um, like I said, I haven't heard anything of late.

694
00:30:32.795 --> 00:30:35.915
I, I did hear one email came in about they want more they

695
00:30:37.205 --> 00:30:40.555
water parks and uh, just all kinds of stuff out there.

696
00:30:40.615 --> 00:30:42.875
But, um, but I haven't heard

697
00:30:42.995 --> 00:30:44.035
anything about the sports courts lately.

698
00:30:44.175 --> 00:30:45.795
Now this daylight later. Right.

699
00:30:45.935 --> 00:30:47.275
So we're not gonna hear that stuff.

700
00:30:47.435 --> 00:30:48.875
'cause they can go out there and play later in the day.

701
00:30:48.905 --> 00:30:50.795
It's only in the winter time when the time changes

702
00:30:50.905 --> 00:30:52.115
when we start hearing that.

703
00:30:53.725 --> 00:30:56.005
I haven't heard anything about any pool vandalism

704
00:30:56.005 --> 00:30:57.845
with furniture being thrown in lately.

705
00:30:57.965 --> 00:30:59.365
I mean, I haven't, just haven't heard a lot

706
00:30:59.365 --> 00:31:00.445
of that stuff happening lately.

707
00:31:00.665 --> 00:31:01.665
So,

708
00:31:01.975 --> 00:31:03.755
And, and it's, again, it's always something

709
00:31:03.755 --> 00:31:04.795
that can come back.

710
00:31:04.935 --> 00:31:07.035
If, if the numbers increase

711
00:31:07.035 --> 00:31:10.275
and folks do want it, then you know, it's not something

712
00:31:10.275 --> 00:31:12.675
that we can't do later just because we don't do it now.

713
00:31:12.855 --> 00:31:13.995
That's right. Yeah.

714
00:31:14.135 --> 00:31:18.915
And can we do our own mini surveys, like talk

715
00:31:18.915 --> 00:31:21.195
to people, see what they, you know, put out there.

716
00:31:21.345 --> 00:31:22.755
Certainly your prerogative.

717
00:31:22.835 --> 00:31:24.755
I mean you're, you're representing them

718
00:31:24.815 --> 00:31:26.955
so certainly you want to see what they have to say.

719
00:31:29.105 --> 00:31:31.315
This question is how can we do official survey?

720
00:31:31.545 --> 00:31:34.995
Like is that possible? Like how, how would that occur

721
00:31:35.895 --> 00:31:37.875
If we put it out or if you put it out either

722
00:31:37.875 --> 00:31:38.995
way it's a public record, right?

723
00:31:38.995 --> 00:31:41.115
So just keep in mind whatever you do on your end.

724
00:31:41.265 --> 00:31:43.315
Yeah, it district business is a public record.

725
00:31:49.955 --> 00:31:54.235
Yeah. I mean, I don't know how,

726
00:31:54.555 --> 00:31:55.795
I forget the, the, the number

727
00:31:55.795 --> 00:31:58.355
of people living out there now. Um, but

728
00:31:59.215 --> 00:32:01.435
Uh, So then you got, you got a way,

729
00:32:01.435 --> 00:32:04.755
like if you get a response of 10%, is that really

730
00:32:05.955 --> 00:32:08.635
a response that is collectively of the,

731
00:32:08.655 --> 00:32:10.915
of the community that what they want? I don't know. I mean

732
00:32:11.315 --> 00:32:13.235
I think if the people saw that, hey,

733
00:32:13.355 --> 00:32:15.475
this would be the cost that you're gonna have to pay,

734
00:32:15.895 --> 00:32:18.355
people will respond and say yes or no.

735
00:32:19.335 --> 00:32:21.475
The first, especially the people who say, Hey,

736
00:32:21.475 --> 00:32:24.155
this is no value to my household, they're gonna say no.

737
00:32:25.055 --> 00:32:28.745
Yeah. I mean I just saw from our previous meeting,

738
00:32:29.045 --> 00:32:30.785
the minutes were put out beforehand

739
00:32:31.165 --> 00:32:32.425
and people talking about the cameras

740
00:32:32.885 --> 00:32:34.865
and I, it was pretty split.

741
00:32:35.445 --> 00:32:37.865
Uh, people either didn't want to pay.

742
00:32:38.145 --> 00:32:40.925
I think we had some emails come in of people that, you know,

743
00:32:40.945 --> 00:32:42.285
didn't want additional costs

744
00:32:42.465 --> 00:32:45.825
or, you know, then the other people want, you know, safety.

745
00:32:46.245 --> 00:32:48.825
So it, it, it was pretty split on the cameras.

746
00:32:49.795 --> 00:32:52.025
Right. Court. I don't think people knew

747
00:32:52.025 --> 00:32:54.755
what the cost would be for that.

748
00:32:54.945 --> 00:32:56.675
Yeah. When they said, yeah, that'd be great,

749
00:32:56.815 --> 00:32:59.275
but not realizing the cost. Um,

750
00:32:59.695 --> 00:33:02.435
But even on the safety issue, we haven't had any incidents

751
00:33:02.435 --> 00:33:04.835
that today support that we needed.

752
00:33:04.975 --> 00:33:07.395
You know what I mean? Like if we had lots of incidents,

753
00:33:07.825 --> 00:33:10.475
then there's a compelling justification that hey,

754
00:33:11.305 --> 00:33:12.635
once again perception's reality.

755
00:33:12.775 --> 00:33:14.075
People think they need something

756
00:33:14.415 --> 00:33:16.715
and maybe they really don't need it. So

757
00:33:16.715 --> 00:33:18.355
They also don't have people calling. So

758
00:33:18.355 --> 00:33:19.355
Maybe Right. Once we

759
00:33:19.355 --> 00:33:22.075
put out there that they can call, you know,

760
00:33:22.175 --> 00:33:24.275
report these incidents instead of just, you know,

761
00:33:24.275 --> 00:33:27.435
typing them on Facebook, um, you know,

762
00:33:27.435 --> 00:33:28.835
we might see more incidents.

763
00:33:30.365 --> 00:33:32.355
Right. So I think we need, what we need is then we need

764
00:33:32.355 --> 00:33:35.675
the more data to support the decision versus

765
00:33:37.595 --> 00:33:40.075
a minority vocalizing what they would,

766
00:33:40.135 --> 00:33:41.435
you know what I mean? What you know.

767
00:33:42.415 --> 00:33:45.745
Yeah. But as far as the cameras, I mean it a 2%

768
00:33:46.305 --> 00:33:49.025
'cause we had a, it was a 5% increase I think

769
00:33:49.375 --> 00:33:50.375
Last year we did. Yeah,

770
00:33:50.375 --> 00:33:51.505
it was more than that. It

771
00:33:51.885 --> 00:33:54.625
Was oh, 25%. How much

772
00:33:54.625 --> 00:33:55.625
Was it last Year? I'm looking it

773
00:33:55.625 --> 00:33:56.425
up right now. I think it was,

774
00:33:56.485 --> 00:33:57.665
it is either 20 or 25.

775
00:33:57.785 --> 00:34:00.145
I think it was 20%. It was originally gonna be 31

776
00:34:00.145 --> 00:34:01.145
that it reduced on to 20

777
00:34:01.205 --> 00:34:02.205
20%. Yeah. So

778
00:34:02.205 --> 00:34:03.585
that was a 20% increase

779
00:34:03.585 --> 00:34:06.215
and we had maybe 10 people here

780
00:34:07.105 --> 00:34:08.725
and we haven't heard any, I mean

781
00:34:09.445 --> 00:34:11.725
I remember the one lady kind of bending our ear

782
00:34:11.725 --> 00:34:13.485
for quite a while up there last year

783
00:34:14.505 --> 00:34:18.285
And then it happened and we need to pay it and move on.

784
00:34:18.605 --> 00:34:21.485
I mean, you're talking cameras a 2% increase.

785
00:34:21.505 --> 00:34:25.125
That's, I mean in reality the 20% increase was I think like

786
00:34:25.125 --> 00:34:27.285
$30 a month up.

787
00:34:27.285 --> 00:34:28.365
Like, like when I did the math.

788
00:34:28.465 --> 00:34:29.885
Hey, 2% is 2%.

789
00:34:30.145 --> 00:34:33.965
So what may be a small number for one person, others

790
00:34:34.015 --> 00:34:36.005
after a 20% increase, right?

791
00:34:36.065 --> 00:34:37.325
So I just wanna make sure that

792
00:34:37.595 --> 00:34:41.005
what we think is a small number, someone else is out there

793
00:34:41.005 --> 00:34:43.005
that's thinking, hey, after a 20% increase,

794
00:34:43.385 --> 00:34:46.325
2% is not a small number, 2% is compounded.

795
00:34:46.345 --> 00:34:48.725
So once again, I'm coming back to,

796
00:34:49.445 --> 00:34:51.325
I think we need data to justify it.

797
00:34:51.705 --> 00:34:53.045
And uh,

798
00:34:54.145 --> 00:34:55.395
because right now the data

799
00:34:55.415 --> 00:34:57.075
to me doesn't support justifying it

800
00:34:58.295 --> 00:35:01.515
unless someone shows data otherwise that supports it.

801
00:35:04.765 --> 00:35:05.825
Do we need any kind of a

802
00:35:06.085 --> 00:35:08.865
Motion or No, just direction as to

803
00:35:08.865 --> 00:35:10.825
what you want us to come back with?

804
00:35:11.025 --> 00:35:13.465
I mean keep in mind you see the numbers,

805
00:35:14.245 --> 00:35:17.265
we can come back next month and propose the 0%,

806
00:35:17.325 --> 00:35:19.945
but if you change your mind, we know what the impact is.

807
00:35:19.965 --> 00:35:22.065
You say okay, let's let's increase it

808
00:35:22.065 --> 00:35:23.545
by 2% to include the cameras.

809
00:35:23.725 --> 00:35:26.465
We, we can do that. I just know in September

810
00:35:27.045 --> 00:35:28.545
you can't go any higher than 2%.

811
00:35:28.565 --> 00:35:29.785
Or if you say, you know,

812
00:35:29.785 --> 00:35:31.705
we wanna include the sports courts lighting

813
00:35:31.845 --> 00:35:33.665
and the cameras for a total of 12.

814
00:35:35.215 --> 00:35:37.065
Just know that in September you can come down.

815
00:35:37.275 --> 00:35:40.165
It's just once you start throwing that big number out there,

816
00:35:40.825 --> 00:35:43.045
people will tend to say, oh my god,

817
00:35:43.045 --> 00:35:45.485
they're gonna raise it 12% not understanding the process

818
00:35:45.595 --> 00:35:48.205
that you do have an opportunity in September to reduce it

819
00:35:48.205 --> 00:35:49.365
and not fund those projects.

820
00:35:50.065 --> 00:35:51.365
Um, but it's entirely up to you.

821
00:35:51.705 --> 00:35:53.405
You can give it a month to think about it.

822
00:35:53.405 --> 00:35:54.845
We can come back next month

823
00:35:55.995 --> 00:35:57.835
and then you can give us that direction.

824
00:35:58.095 --> 00:36:00.035
Um, it'll give you time maybe to talk

825
00:36:00.035 --> 00:36:02.195
to some people out there and see what's out. Um,

826
00:36:02.335 --> 00:36:04.955
It something like the cameras that the, you know,

827
00:36:05.555 --> 00:36:09.115
a one time $31,000 capital that can't just come out

828
00:36:09.115 --> 00:36:10.235
of our our excess

829
00:36:10.235 --> 00:36:12.595
And not it could if that's the direction you give us.

830
00:36:12.595 --> 00:36:13.595
That's correct.

831
00:36:14.255 --> 00:36:15.385
Well, I mean, going back

832
00:36:15.385 --> 00:36:19.705
Up and then you had just the ongoing, uh, recurring cost

833
00:36:19.725 --> 00:36:21.265
of monitoring basically.

834
00:36:24.865 --> 00:36:29.125
I mean I think we have this would load our, our funds

835
00:36:29.785 --> 00:36:32.765
and whatever, 350,000.

836
00:36:36.755 --> 00:36:38.895
So yes, you can use funds out of a,

837
00:36:38.915 --> 00:36:41.415
for a one time appropriation of that fund balance.

838
00:36:41.675 --> 00:36:42.675
That's correct.

839
00:36:44.095 --> 00:36:48.825
I mean, I think perceptually them seeing no

840
00:36:49.225 --> 00:36:52.985
increase but getting, increase protection, you know,

841
00:36:55.415 --> 00:36:56.575
residents would love that a lot more.

842
00:36:57.015 --> 00:36:59.655
I don't know what the impact is on the recurring dollars.

843
00:37:00.235 --> 00:37:03.295
The what? I'm sorry. The recurring, uh, like

844
00:37:03.295 --> 00:37:05.415
for community watch to monitoring all the 16

845
00:37:05.445 --> 00:37:07.335
Five I believe is what it's budgeted at,

846
00:37:11.285 --> 00:37:13.435
Which yeah, 16,500

847
00:37:13.435 --> 00:37:17.315
Paying a whole lot more for whatever pool cleaning or

848
00:37:19.775 --> 00:37:20.775
Cleaning is expensive.

849
00:37:21.935 --> 00:37:26.455
I mean, And algae. Yeah.

850
00:37:28.005 --> 00:37:30.295
This is why we bring this to you to have this discussion

851
00:37:30.555 --> 00:37:32.935
and to give you that information. Yeah,

852
00:37:32.975 --> 00:37:34.295
I mean we have flexibility, right?

853
00:37:34.435 --> 00:37:37.575
And let's use the flexibility square month

854
00:37:37.595 --> 00:37:39.015
or something like this.

855
00:37:40.285 --> 00:37:43.005
I think we need time to digest more. Yeah. Yeah.

856
00:37:43.345 --> 00:37:45.365
To me, if we can get more data points on either,

857
00:37:45.565 --> 00:37:49.205
'cause I don't, I don't really want to set a, a precedent

858
00:37:49.215 --> 00:37:52.645
where we haven't, I, you know,

859
00:37:52.645 --> 00:37:55.525
to me I have not heard a majority of people wanting it.

860
00:37:55.665 --> 00:37:57.485
So to me it would be set in a precedent

861
00:37:57.485 --> 00:38:00.045
of if we're doing this, understand the perception,

862
00:38:00.045 --> 00:38:01.245
understand the conversations,

863
00:38:01.385 --> 00:38:03.925
but if we have the opportunity to collect more data

864
00:38:03.945 --> 00:38:05.325
and we don't, you're like,

865
00:38:05.325 --> 00:38:07.565
we're not doing justice to the process.

866
00:38:07.945 --> 00:38:09.605
So if we can't do that, great.

867
00:38:09.705 --> 00:38:13.055
But at this point, to me at least my

868
00:38:13.775 --> 00:38:16.495
personal thoughts is we wouldn't move forward with it.

869
00:38:16.595 --> 00:38:20.055
But again, that's for us to discuss

870
00:38:21.395 --> 00:38:22.575
and I don't know if we want to,

871
00:38:23.465 --> 00:38:24.915
It's up to you have Go through

872
00:38:24.915 --> 00:38:27.555
and just everybody share what they would like to see

873
00:38:27.655 --> 00:38:31.275
and then we'll see where it lands on the lights.

874
00:38:31.615 --> 00:38:33.835
Is there a full spec breakdown?

875
00:38:33.835 --> 00:38:36.605
Because just from the electrical

876
00:38:36.785 --> 00:38:40.995
and neighborhood standpoint of it, I hate

877
00:38:40.995 --> 00:38:42.035
to be the Debbie Downer,

878
00:38:42.215 --> 00:38:45.235
but I can see complaints increasing.

879
00:38:45.615 --> 00:38:49.035
You know, if kids are out there turning the lights on at 10

880
00:38:49.035 --> 00:38:52.395
o'clock and bouncing basketballs, I think my

881
00:38:52.395 --> 00:38:54.595
Understanding was they were gonna be on a timer system.

882
00:38:54.695 --> 00:38:55.875
So I don't think they could be

883
00:38:55.875 --> 00:38:56.875
Turned on that. I think what supervisor

884
00:38:56.875 --> 00:38:57.715
m is saying,

885
00:38:57.715 --> 00:38:59.515
they could be up there midnight plan.

886
00:38:59.515 --> 00:39:00.675
And that's why I was wondering

887
00:39:00.735 --> 00:39:03.355
If it was like one of the adjustable, you know, set it

888
00:39:03.355 --> 00:39:06.675
to 30 minutes or if it was county

889
00:39:06.775 --> 00:39:09.315
or district control, like you timing sessions,

890
00:39:17.155 --> 00:39:18.725
Mike Harris, district property management,

891
00:39:18.725 --> 00:39:21.005
those timers are locked and, and and secure.

892
00:39:21.145 --> 00:39:22.525
Yes sir. They're all set.

893
00:39:22.835 --> 00:39:24.125
They're electronic timers

894
00:39:24.125 --> 00:39:25.325
that are, they're locked up and they

895
00:39:25.325 --> 00:39:27.005
Wouldn't need, so I think the question is, I don't,

896
00:39:27.015 --> 00:39:28.525
maybe I don't know the answer either.

897
00:39:28.785 --> 00:39:31.125
Um, are they the dial where you can turn 'em on

898
00:39:31.125 --> 00:39:35.205
for 30 minutes or are they controlled by some sense

899
00:39:35.205 --> 00:39:37.485
of sun up to sundown? You know, that type of,

900
00:39:37.515 --> 00:39:38.805
They can't be programmed anyway.

901
00:39:38.825 --> 00:39:40.485
You can put a a a specific time.

902
00:39:40.485 --> 00:39:42.485
Usually the astrological timers go off

903
00:39:42.485 --> 00:39:43.845
with sunset and and sunrise.

904
00:39:44.425 --> 00:39:47.525
Yes. But either way it's a digital timer. They can be

905
00:39:47.525 --> 00:39:49.525
Something like they can't be turned on after

906
00:39:49.995 --> 00:39:50.995
Nine o'clock. That's what I think for

907
00:39:50.995 --> 00:39:52.645
us to end up passing this

908
00:39:52.745 --> 00:39:55.885
and then, you know, ends up full of complaints

909
00:39:55.885 --> 00:39:58.445
because they're tired of the lights being on so late

910
00:39:58.545 --> 00:40:00.165
and this that and the other.

911
00:40:00.945 --> 00:40:03.205
You can certainly go out with bolt cutters and cut a lock

912
00:40:03.205 --> 00:40:05.085
or something or, or take the set screw out. But

913
00:40:05.795 --> 00:40:10.365
Yeah, that's what I kinda wonder like if we set it turn

914
00:40:10.905 --> 00:40:14.685
be permanently off at nine o'clock at night in the summer,

915
00:40:14.845 --> 00:40:18.845
I mean that's, they're only on for an hour, 30 minutes

916
00:40:20.305 --> 00:40:22.645
and you don't want to go too much further past nine o'clock

917
00:40:22.665 --> 00:40:24.645
if people are, you know, going to sleep or whatever.

918
00:40:24.645 --> 00:40:26.165
Mm-hmm. You know, in winter they might get a

919
00:40:26.165 --> 00:40:27.885
few more hours but then it's cold. So.

920
00:40:27.975 --> 00:40:29.905
Right. I,

921
00:40:34.785 --> 00:40:36.965
but that's one I definitely would like

922
00:40:36.965 --> 00:40:39.965
to see more data for the cost

923
00:40:42.185 --> 00:40:43.185
As far as what?

924
00:40:43.425 --> 00:40:46.735
Uh, a one a need. They, I mean

925
00:40:46.855 --> 00:40:48.695
'cause Oh, from the residence? Yeah. Okay. I mean

926
00:40:48.765 --> 00:40:52.575
That started with one email to us, so I don't know

927
00:40:53.475 --> 00:40:54.535
how many other people would

928
00:40:54.735 --> 00:40:55.735
Actually utilize it. That, that,

929
00:40:55.735 --> 00:40:56.535
that's the thing.

930
00:40:56.695 --> 00:40:59.095
I mean we haven't really seen one or two people.

931
00:40:59.215 --> 00:41:01.135
I mean we haven't seen anything coming other

932
00:41:01.135 --> 00:41:05.365
Than I also, the residents don't know about us.

933
00:41:06.605 --> 00:41:10.005
I mean it's vast majority have no idea what,

934
00:41:10.645 --> 00:41:13.125
Well I guarantee you we were raising 31% last year.

935
00:41:13.125 --> 00:41:15.085
They knew about us because they came in. Yeah.

936
00:41:15.145 --> 00:41:17.525
So I think, I think it's all this is,

937
00:41:17.675 --> 00:41:19.365
this is not different from any other

938
00:41:19.685 --> 00:41:20.765
district or city or county.

939
00:41:22.665 --> 00:41:24.285
It only, it only they only come out

940
00:41:24.285 --> 00:41:25.325
when it affects their pocketbook.

941
00:41:25.435 --> 00:41:28.525
Yeah. I mean that's just the bottom line. So

942
00:41:33.595 --> 00:41:36.885
Yeah, I don't, but where, where do we go from here? So,

943
00:41:37.155 --> 00:41:39.645
Well, I guess I would just, I'm gonna go down the line

944
00:41:39.665 --> 00:41:41.365
and just let me know what you want to do

945
00:41:41.365 --> 00:41:43.565
and then we'll give a recommendation based on that.

946
00:41:43.745 --> 00:41:48.725
So Wayne definitely think there needs to be more

947
00:41:48.725 --> 00:41:53.615
of a, uh, like input from the Middleton

948
00:41:53.685 --> 00:41:55.375
residence as to

949
00:41:57.685 --> 00:41:59.105
is it worth it, is it not worth it?

950
00:42:00.995 --> 00:42:03.935
So I, I personally think we should either table it

951
00:42:03.955 --> 00:42:06.975
or vote no on it.

952
00:42:07.995 --> 00:42:09.375
Um, I, I'd table it

953
00:42:10.195 --> 00:42:13.955
and give us a month to uh, think more about it.

954
00:42:16.375 --> 00:42:19.115
I'd like more input on the courts, the cameras.

955
00:42:19.415 --> 00:42:20.915
I'd like to see if we can just take that out

956
00:42:20.915 --> 00:42:23.155
of our general fund and not cost the

957
00:42:23.155 --> 00:42:25.515
residence anything on their maintenance unit.

958
00:42:26.645 --> 00:42:28.025
So what we could do is if you,

959
00:42:28.305 --> 00:42:30.545
I know you had spoke earlier, there may be one park

960
00:42:30.725 --> 00:42:33.945
or two parks if you wanted to get some data

961
00:42:33.965 --> 00:42:36.505
and give us, you know, we can come back next month with

962
00:42:37.135 --> 00:42:39.065
what a 6% would look like if you wanted

963
00:42:39.065 --> 00:42:40.345
to do two of the courts.

964
00:42:40.605 --> 00:42:42.465
Um, and kind of go from there.

965
00:42:42.485 --> 00:42:44.505
Or we can bring you the detail on the full 12

966
00:42:44.565 --> 00:42:46.945
and you can say, look, we've talked to our residents,

967
00:42:47.455 --> 00:42:50.705
they don't want, they, the cost isn't worth it.

968
00:42:50.885 --> 00:42:54.745
So, but if we come back with zero next month,

969
00:42:54.875 --> 00:42:56.145
we'll do no support support.

970
00:42:59.095 --> 00:43:02.195
Now I'll go on record saying till something changes

971
00:43:03.135 --> 00:43:06.435
and a majority of folks come to this board to want it,

972
00:43:06.465 --> 00:43:09.595
then I would not want to move forward with it.

973
00:43:10.135 --> 00:43:13.405
So, and next month we'll also have Joe

974
00:43:13.865 --> 00:43:15.285
so he can offer his stocks in.

975
00:43:15.285 --> 00:43:19.515
But it sounds like at this point we should

976
00:43:21.145 --> 00:43:23.335
table moving forward with it.

977
00:43:23.355 --> 00:43:25.815
So I don't know if that means you said we could come back

978
00:43:25.815 --> 00:43:27.615
with the budget that shows the zero

979
00:43:27.965 --> 00:43:30.335
that you have the numbers in case something changes.

980
00:43:30.595 --> 00:43:33.215
So if there's more data points

981
00:43:33.275 --> 00:43:35.695
or if you collect more information, bring that

982
00:43:35.695 --> 00:43:37.495
to the board at the June meeting

983
00:43:38.395 --> 00:43:40.735
and it could, we could change our mind

984
00:43:40.755 --> 00:43:42.735
at that point in time. That's right. Yep. But

985
00:43:42.835 --> 00:43:45.015
You have that opportunity in June June's really your,

986
00:43:45.795 --> 00:43:48.695
the opportunity to set the high point

987
00:43:49.315 --> 00:43:51.135
and then of course September you can always come down

988
00:43:51.135 --> 00:43:53.055
as well, but you can't go higher in

989
00:43:53.295 --> 00:43:54.295
September.

990
00:43:54.925 --> 00:43:56.785
So we can bring you back what it would look like

991
00:43:56.785 --> 00:43:59.825
to fund everything detailed all the way down

992
00:43:59.825 --> 00:44:01.745
to not doing any of it and where it would be.

993
00:44:01.745 --> 00:44:04.025
And we can bring that back for next month if you would like

994
00:44:04.025 --> 00:44:06.385
a little more information to make that decision. Okay,

995
00:44:07.125 --> 00:44:08.125
Sounds good. Board

996
00:44:08.125 --> 00:44:10.625
you all good? Okay. Thank you. Appreciate

997
00:44:10.625 --> 00:44:11.625
It. I can do that. No problem.

998
00:44:11.625 --> 00:44:12.225
Um,

999
00:44:12.865 --> 00:44:17.265
I think there was one slide left maybe.

1000
00:44:18.525 --> 00:44:21.145
No, that's all we've got. So just as a reminder, uh,

1001
00:44:21.145 --> 00:44:23.585
we will come back at your June 6th meeting, uh,

1002
00:44:23.615 --> 00:44:26.785
regularly scheduled to be held here 9:00 AM at Everglades

1003
00:44:26.785 --> 00:44:28.065
Recreation Center to review

1004
00:44:28.085 --> 00:44:30.945
and approve the proposed fiscal year 25 26

1005
00:44:31.100 --> 00:44:32.100
Budget. If there's

1006
00:44:32.100 --> 00:44:33.365
any questions between now

1007
00:44:33.365 --> 00:44:35.125
and then, please feel free to reach out to staff.

1008
00:44:37.635 --> 00:44:40.185
Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Good conversation.

1009
00:44:40.425 --> 00:44:44.145
I, we appreciate it. Alright, item four B.

1010
00:44:45.645 --> 00:44:46.705
Uh, yes,

1011
00:44:46.805 --> 00:44:49.905
so Ms. Morrison will present actually the next three items.

1012
00:44:50.175 --> 00:44:51.175
Okay.

1013
00:44:53.655 --> 00:44:55.665
Good morning. Emily Morrison purchasing.

1014
00:44:57.965 --> 00:45:01.425
The first item I'm requesting approval for, for is awards

1015
00:45:01.605 --> 00:45:03.665
for 25 2 dash 0 1 4

1016
00:45:03.725 --> 00:45:06.265
for professional architect continuing services.

1017
00:45:07.175 --> 00:45:09.525
These services will include architecture,

1018
00:45:10.875 --> 00:45:13.725
architectural studies, I'm sorry, permit applications,

1019
00:45:13.955 --> 00:45:15.965
cost estimates, the preparation

1020
00:45:15.965 --> 00:45:19.645
of complete construction documents including the surveying,

1021
00:45:19.645 --> 00:45:23.205
permitting and shop drawing reviews on February 11th.

1022
00:45:23.295 --> 00:45:24.765
Staff issued the RFQ

1023
00:45:24.825 --> 00:45:27.565
and seven responsive submittals were received.

1024
00:45:28.185 --> 00:45:29.405
The selection committee met

1025
00:45:29.405 --> 00:45:33.845
and according to the criteria set forth in the RFQ, the

1026
00:45:34.475 --> 00:45:37.445
evaluations and the scoring staff is requesting approval

1027
00:45:37.505 --> 00:45:40.605
of awards for 25 Q dash 0 1 4.

1028
00:45:40.605 --> 00:45:43.125
Professional architect continuing services

1029
00:45:43.225 --> 00:45:45.325
to KP studio's architect

1030
00:45:45.825 --> 00:45:49.445
and K two M designs incorporated upon approval.

1031
00:45:49.545 --> 00:45:51.765
The initial term of the agreement should be today

1032
00:45:51.765 --> 00:45:55.285
through September 30th, 2035 with option to renew

1033
00:45:55.285 --> 00:45:56.565
for two five year periods.

1034
00:45:56.945 --> 00:45:57.945
I'm here if you have questions.

1035
00:46:00.555 --> 00:46:02.105
Board, have any comments or questions?

1036
00:46:04.785 --> 00:46:07.205
I'm assuming we need to vote for. Yes, all these. All right.

1037
00:46:07.625 --> 00:46:09.725
Do we have a, a motion and a second for this?

1038
00:46:10.585 --> 00:46:15.445
Motion to approve. Second. Alright, motion and a second.

1039
00:46:15.745 --> 00:46:18.045
All those in favor say aye. Aye.

1040
00:46:18.105 --> 00:46:20.365
All those opposed Hearing none. Motion passes.

1041
00:46:21.135 --> 00:46:22.245
Thank you. Proceed.

1042
00:46:22.625 --> 00:46:25.285
The next item is a request for approval of award

1043
00:46:25.345 --> 00:46:29.725
for 25 Q dash 0 2 0 for professional water resources,

1044
00:46:29.915 --> 00:46:31.245
utility operations

1045
00:46:31.345 --> 00:46:33.765
and utility engineering program management.

1046
00:46:34.575 --> 00:46:37.565
These continuing services will include water use, permitting

1047
00:46:37.565 --> 00:46:41.005
and compliance monitoring, utility operations, oversight

1048
00:46:41.105 --> 00:46:44.605
and consulting services, utility design services,

1049
00:46:45.525 --> 00:46:47.525
construction engineering and capital planning,

1050
00:46:47.655 --> 00:46:48.725
consulting services

1051
00:46:49.225 --> 00:46:52.205
and regulatory compliance program management

1052
00:46:52.215 --> 00:46:53.325
consulting services.

1053
00:46:54.105 --> 00:46:56.525
On February 11th, staff issued the RFQ

1054
00:46:56.545 --> 00:46:59.005
and one responsive submittal was received

1055
00:46:59.145 --> 00:47:00.965
and reviewed by the selection committee

1056
00:47:01.615 --> 00:47:03.405
based on the evaluation and the score.

1057
00:47:03.415 --> 00:47:07.765
Staff is requesting approval of award for 25 Q dash 0 2 0

1058
00:47:07.985 --> 00:47:11.125
for professional water resources, utility operations

1059
00:47:11.265 --> 00:47:13.645
and utility engineering program management

1060
00:47:13.985 --> 00:47:17.965
to Arnet environmental LLC doing business as cus water

1061
00:47:18.585 --> 00:47:21.285
if approved the initial term of the agreement will be today

1062
00:47:21.285 --> 00:47:24.845
through September 30th, 2035 with the option to renew

1063
00:47:24.845 --> 00:47:26.125
for two five year periods.

1064
00:47:26.265 --> 00:47:27.565
And again, I'm here if you have questions,

1065
00:47:29.585 --> 00:47:31.445
Any comments, questions from the board?

1066
00:47:32.685 --> 00:47:34.575
Okay, we'll entertain a, a motion

1067
00:47:34.715 --> 00:47:36.255
and a second for item four C.

1068
00:47:36.715 --> 00:47:40.785
Motion Second. Alright, got a motion and a second.

1069
00:47:41.405 --> 00:47:44.265
All those in favor of approving? Aye. Aye. Aye.

1070
00:47:45.005 --> 00:47:46.545
Motion passes for oh,

1071
00:47:47.275 --> 00:47:48.275
Thank you.

1072
00:47:48.525 --> 00:47:52.345
And the final I item I'm requesting approval for is award

1073
00:47:52.365 --> 00:47:55.985
for 25 q dash 0 22 for land survey services.

1074
00:47:56.395 --> 00:47:59.665
These continuing services will include performing boundary

1075
00:47:59.665 --> 00:48:03.105
surveys to establish property lines conducting topographic

1076
00:48:03.215 --> 00:48:07.305
surveys to capture elevation and land features, identifying

1077
00:48:07.305 --> 00:48:10.305
and documenting existing utilities and infrastructure

1078
00:48:10.725 --> 00:48:12.745
and analyzing collected survey data

1079
00:48:12.845 --> 00:48:15.185
and creating accurate maps and documents.

1080
00:48:15.765 --> 00:48:16.865
On February 11th.

1081
00:48:16.955 --> 00:48:18.385
Staff issued the RFQ

1082
00:48:18.485 --> 00:48:20.825
and four responsive submittals were received

1083
00:48:21.005 --> 00:48:22.585
and reviewed by the selection committee.

1084
00:48:22.695 --> 00:48:26.305
According to the criteria set forth in the RFQ document,

1085
00:48:26.995 --> 00:48:28.265
based on the evaluations

1086
00:48:28.325 --> 00:48:30.945
and scoring, staff is requesting approval of award

1087
00:48:30.965 --> 00:48:34.705
for 25 Q dash 0 2 2 for land survey services

1088
00:48:35.005 --> 00:48:39.585
to climber farner barley surveying LLC upon approval,

1089
00:48:39.605 --> 00:48:41.905
the initial term of this agreement shall be today

1090
00:48:41.905 --> 00:48:45.585
through September 30th, 2035 with the option to renew

1091
00:48:45.645 --> 00:48:47.025
for two five year periods.

1092
00:48:47.085 --> 00:48:48.465
And I'm here if you have any questions,

1093
00:48:50.445 --> 00:48:53.145
Any board comment, discussion item,

1094
00:48:54.795 --> 00:48:58.405
entertain a motion for item 40 as presented.

1095
00:48:59.945 --> 00:49:03.885
Motion to approve, sir. Alright, I have a motion to approve.

1096
00:49:03.905 --> 00:49:07.405
And a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

1097
00:49:07.705 --> 00:49:10.685
All those opposed hearing none. Motion passes for

1098
00:49:10.855 --> 00:49:11.855
Thank you board.

1099
00:49:11.935 --> 00:49:15.885
Thank you. I think old business was in reference

1100
00:49:15.885 --> 00:49:19.525
to the lights and the cameras and those were on the budget.

1101
00:49:19.585 --> 00:49:20.605
Review the agenda.

1102
00:49:20.825 --> 00:49:23.565
So at your pleasure, I'd like

1103
00:49:23.565 --> 00:49:24.885
to remove those from old business

1104
00:49:24.885 --> 00:49:26.605
as they're being addressed in the budget process.

1105
00:49:29.165 --> 00:49:30.345
Um, information items,

1106
00:49:30.445 --> 00:49:32.345
if there's any questions on those items,

1107
00:49:32.515 --> 00:49:34.225
we're certainly here to address those.

1108
00:49:37.355 --> 00:49:40.645
Hearing none, we can go to my reports. Mr. Chairman. Yep.

1109
00:49:41.545 --> 00:49:45.005
So, uh, so this morning the Middleton Maintenance Advisory

1110
00:49:45.005 --> 00:49:47.245
Committee meeting did not meet, we didn't have a quorum.

1111
00:49:47.945 --> 00:49:50.845
Uh, chairman Riccardi is the, Joe is the sole member.

1112
00:49:50.955 --> 00:49:53.445
He's the, he's the chair of that, uh, committee.

1113
00:49:53.465 --> 00:49:56.005
And he was not available, which prompted us to say, Hey,

1114
00:49:56.005 --> 00:49:58.085
we need an alternate, alternate member to serve.

1115
00:49:58.745 --> 00:50:01.125
Uh, we did get that at the Middleton downtown.

1116
00:50:01.305 --> 00:50:04.245
Uh, we did get a, uh, an alternate there just in case,

1117
00:50:04.625 --> 00:50:06.805
but we would seek an alternate here.

1118
00:50:07.065 --> 00:50:09.365
Uh, in case Supervisor Carter cannot make it,

1119
00:50:09.625 --> 00:50:11.045
we have an alternate that we can call

1120
00:50:11.105 --> 00:50:12.405
to come build that seat.

1121
00:50:12.585 --> 00:50:13.965
So we make sure we do have a quorum.

1122
00:50:13.985 --> 00:50:16.885
So I would just ask for anyone if they wanna volunteer

1123
00:50:16.885 --> 00:50:18.565
to be a, uh, the alternate

1124
00:50:18.705 --> 00:50:20.965
or if you want to just appoint somebody.

1125
00:50:21.025 --> 00:50:22.685
So it's, it's at y'all's pleasure.

1126
00:50:22.885 --> 00:50:25.565
I just need someone to just say, Joe can't make it.

1127
00:50:25.675 --> 00:50:27.925
I'll take, I'll, I'll sit that, sit in that seat.

1128
00:50:29.395 --> 00:50:30.395
Nominate Brandon.

1129
00:50:31.975 --> 00:50:36.435
Second. I'll, I'll be the

1130
00:50:36.435 --> 00:50:37.435
Alterna. Okay, thank you. I'll

1131
00:50:37.435 --> 00:50:39.715
so noted in case Joe can't make it.

1132
00:50:39.715 --> 00:50:41.635
We'll have Brandon sit in that seat. Thank you.

1133
00:50:42.055 --> 00:50:44.955
And just lastly, just remember, uh, that preliminary budget,

1134
00:50:44.955 --> 00:50:46.195
that meeting will be June 6th.

1135
00:50:46.295 --> 00:50:49.075
We do need a quorum, uh, to make sure we pass that.

1136
00:50:49.175 --> 00:50:52.315
Um, and we'll be prepared to bring back many alternates

1137
00:50:52.375 --> 00:50:54.195
or alternatives to the, uh,

1138
00:50:54.195 --> 00:50:57.195
percentage increase will be nimble with the conversation.

1139
00:50:57.615 --> 00:50:59.755
So whatever you choose, we'll be able to plug it in

1140
00:50:59.815 --> 00:51:02.155
and then show what that, what that's going to, how

1141
00:51:02.155 --> 00:51:05.235
that will affect the, uh, the budget process.

1142
00:51:05.535 --> 00:51:07.795
So I do appreciate the good conversation.

1143
00:51:08.035 --> 00:51:09.315
I mean, this is what we're here for.

1144
00:51:09.975 --> 00:51:13.195
Uh, sometimes those decisions are kind of difficult to make

1145
00:51:13.595 --> 00:51:15.715
'cause we, we hear items, but we wanna present all the

1146
00:51:15.715 --> 00:51:17.355
information we can and help make those

1147
00:51:17.555 --> 00:51:19.115
decisions as easy as possible.

1148
00:51:19.115 --> 00:51:20.355
So we do appreciate that. So,

1149
00:51:20.495 --> 00:51:22.075
and those are all my reports, sir. Okay.

1150
00:51:22.975 --> 00:51:26.035
We have any supervisor comments anybody would like to make

1151
00:51:26.035 --> 00:51:28.305
before we report?

1152
00:51:29.535 --> 00:51:31.185
Just again, just want to say thank you

1153
00:51:31.485 --> 00:51:33.145
for everything on the, the budget

1154
00:51:33.285 --> 00:51:35.705
and hopefully we'll have a good discussion next meeting

1155
00:51:35.845 --> 00:51:37.665
and appreciate everybody's work on that.

1156
00:51:37.845 --> 00:51:40.945
So, um, with that meeting's adjourned.

1157
00:51:41.595 --> 00:51:44.825
Thank you. Thank you. Is this for us or.