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Order the meeting from the, for the, um, district 11 for,

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uh, this February, or I'm sorry, March.

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March the ninth, 2000.

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And, and, uh, 26, if you please rise for this Pledge

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of Allegiance, all my mode and silence,

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Pledge of allegiance to the United States of America

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and one Nation under God,

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the individual with liberty.

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Thank you.

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At this time, I wanna, uh, welcome our, our attendees today.

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Thank you for taking the time outta your schedule

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to attend our meeting, and we appreciate it very much.

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And at this point, if there are any audience comments, uh,

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please raise your hand and we'll recognize you.

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And you'll have to come up to the podium

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to speak if you'd like to speak.

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Did you? Yes. You can do that now if you like.

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You have to come out to the, the podium

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and you, you come up to the podium

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and state your name, address,

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and, uh, you have three minutes.

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Hi, I am Robin Cohen.

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We live on Kranz Avenue,

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and I'm here as are all the others in the neighborhood

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about the, the house on, um, mm-hmm. I forget the name

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Of the street. Webster.

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Webster. Thanks. Um, you know, It's, it's beyond.

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It's just beyond. Mm-hmm.

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And it's hard for all of us to go past that

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and see that that's allowed when none

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of us are allowed to do the same thing.

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And I had inquired about that.

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What if all the neighbors on our street decided

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to put up inflatables all year round

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and lights all over the place?

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And I was told no, that would not be acceptable. Mm-hmm.

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So I think this really needs to be dealt with

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and as soon as possible.

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Okay. Because it's out of control

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and it's really, I have friends that come and visit

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and say, what is going on at that house?

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Mm-hmm. It's disgusting.

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So, thank you for listening. Thank you.

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I A procedural question. Yes.

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Uh, since this is this, since this is on the agenda. Yes.

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Is this part of the public hearing?

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No, this is not, no, this is separate from that.

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We're gonna take those questions,

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then we're gonna get into the public hearing about the

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specific issue that we're gonna be dealing with,

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which will cascade into this.

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So that's why I was opening it up to that. Thank you. Okay.

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Thank you. Thank you. Steve Waterhouse from also same issue.

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I think we've got somebody here who, um, doesn't understand

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that you're in a planned community.

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That doesn't mean you get to plan in the community. Mm-hmm.

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Um, and I think, I think some people just

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don't fit into some organ, uh, some places

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because they don't understand.

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I don't think he's trying to tick everybody off.

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I think he maybe probably thinks

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he's decorating the neighborhood.

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Um, but somehow we need to get across to, to him

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that we'd love to have him be part

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of our community, uh mm-hmm.

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But that, uh, that means he needs to operate, uh,

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like the house on the left and the house on the right.

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The house across the street. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

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Anybody Else? Back there is blue.

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I think I have the same complaints as everybody else, uh,

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with the Lights Street name.

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Uh, Linda Stevenson, 32 92 Webster Way. Thank you. Okay.

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And my complaints are the same,

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but I would also add the noise, uh, of his, uh, speakers

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and his music, and also his profane language that he uses

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with people that, uh, go by

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and try to talk to him about this.

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Then it's completely unacceptable. Mm-hmm.

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Thank you. In the back,

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Robert Lowell, following my wife.

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3, 2 9, 2 Webster Way.

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And I just wanted, um, Dennis,

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I don't moved in a few months ago,

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and, um, I want to be his friend.

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I think most of these people want to be his friend,

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but he is, um, when we say approach him about his lights

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or something, you're all, he his biggest, I am a veteran.

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I'm an American, I'm a whatever. It's my right. Oh.

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And I'm a Christian.

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And we, and I'll say there are other

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Christians on the street.

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He says, they're not Christians.

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They're communists, they're hateful.

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He has a sign in front of his house that says,

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hate does not live here.

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Mm-hmm. But there is no reasoning.

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These people are reasonable people.

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Um, I don't know if he's compliant or not,

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but he's just over the top.

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The other part is, I think we could, you know, um, uh, go

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with it for, you know, Christmas or something.

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But he's good. He's out there decorating for Easter.

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Isn't there a limit to

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how far in the inflatables are over the top?

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Thank you for listening to me. Thank you.

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Thank you. Good afternoon.

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I'm, uh, Donna Burns.

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I live on De Drive and a couple of my neighbors are with me.

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We don't live on Webster, but we live two streets over.

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But we're here to support our friends on Webster

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because what happens to our neighborhood, what happens

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to them happens to us next.

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Uh, for seven months, our normally quiet

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and compliant neighborhoods has fixed, had to endure

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what can only be described as a surface wide.

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Um, during this time, their property's been covered

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with dozens of bright

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and flashing light, um, inflatable yard art,

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holiday decorations, banners, rows

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of these double armed shepherds hooks.

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Dozens of them that contain hot air balloons, lantern, uh,

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today it's potted plants.

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Tomorrow it maybe Easter Bunny stuff, who knows?

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But this has been an ongoing disruption for seven months.

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And it has been frustrating not only for the neighbors

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community standards and you guys, the board,

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because you've had to deal with this for months on end.

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Beyond the obvious visual impact of this,

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there has also been real consequences.

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I understand a real estate agent spoke

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to you about one of the neighbors.

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They can't list their houses. Mm-hmm.

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Who wants to live next to that? It's a dumpster fire.

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Nobody in their right mind,

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unless they Google it online,

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is gonna go move into a house on Webster Women,

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their property values have taped.

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Um, our neighborhood has always been one

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that has followed the rules and the de restrictions.

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We've been good about that.

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Uh, and they are there for a purpose to protect

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our property values.

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So I respectfully ask implore the board,

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bring this nightmare to an end.

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Please do whatever it takes.

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Put this dude on notice today

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that he's got to get in compliance like the rest of us.

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'cause what's happening now on my street, a lady

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who had been warned about community standards

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to take down two years ago, her giant blue crane,

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she's now put out two giant pink

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flamingos in her front yard.

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And you know why? I bet

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she's seen nothing has happened

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to 32 68 Webster Way.

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She's seen the dumpster fire. Nothing's happened.

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So who's gonna say anything about my pink flamingo?

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So this is a present setting thing,

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and please, please stop it.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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My name is Maria Chalin.

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I live at 2 3 2 8, 4 away,

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two doors down from lovely Dennis, who

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by the way, I had never met.

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I think it's really a shame that this has gone on this long,

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that when I had friends that moved here 10 years ago,

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and they were told they had to take their nice white,

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Christian Catholic course down.

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Mm-hmm. Now, if you tell me I have to take a course down

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and you allow this junk,

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which makes it look like a ghetto scene, okay,

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if I wanna live in a ghetto,

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I wouldn't live in the villages.

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And people have come to visit me

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and they said, what is going on here?

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You've told us how beautiful it is here.

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How could you live next to this? It's really disgusting.

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And it's also not safe.

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If the fire department came in

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and they had to run into that house for the, for a fire.

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Mm-hmm. Okay. They'd be tripping over wires

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on the grass to get in.

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They were lucky if they could see the door.

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And when they get inside you, besides ordering

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and everything else, the whole thing is a

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disaster inside, outside.

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But the main thing is he's very, very nasty.

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He curses at people. He makes his music loud.

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The police have been called already three times

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because of the loud music.

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And whenever he, anyone makes a comment to him,

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the next day an Amazon truck comes and he gets more garbage.

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So if that's how we're supposed to be allowed,

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so this is supposed to be allowed to keep going on,

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then why can't we just all go buy a bunch of junk

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and throw it on our lawns?

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And what are you gonna do? Tell us to take it away.

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You know, you're setting a precedent here.

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And it's not a good president in the villages.

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That's not why I bought a house here.

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I bought a house because everything is

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clean, but not in that house.

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Mm-hmm. So they really need to, like that lady said,

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end this and end it soon.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Hi, my name's Michelle Gayner. I live on Coleman.

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And so I passed that out both times.

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When he first moved in, my friend

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and I went over to Dennis for Christmas thing.

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They said, oh, how pretty.

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And he was going on and on again about how he's a veteran

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and he's a this and lost his partner.

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And on and on and on. And my friends recently

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before this meeting went to talk him

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and said, Dennis, this is ridiculous.

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Um, and he said, oh, I took what you said to heart.

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His thing is, I was sick my whole life.

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I had this surgery, this surgery, this surgery,

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um, spreading joy.

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I think how you approach him is really, really critical.

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Um, I'd like it to end totally. He's very, very defensive.

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And I don't know, I haven't heard a curse,

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but he's very defensive.

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And I think how you approach it is really critical.

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He has to be known that he moves into a

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neighborhood that didn't look like that.

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He wants that let him move

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somewhere else where they can do that.

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He moves into a neighborhood that has certain

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qualifications, certain beauty around it.

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That's what he should want. He says he wants to spread joy.

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He's not spreading joy at all.

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He needs to know that Somehow

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to approach him without getting the

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defenses up may be helpful.

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I don't know how you do it. I'm not the expert,

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but I think you have to be careful of how you do it.

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And it's gotta end. I mean, he said, oh, I took down some

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of the, uh, those, what do you call the shepherd talk.

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I listened to you, but now there's some more up.

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And those things on the ground are just disgusting.

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It, it's just, it's crazy.

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This is not what the village is, is supposed to be.

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And I don't mind an occasional cross on occasional swan.

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I think it's beautiful. But this is crazy.

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And as I said, I just think you have

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to be careful when you go in there.

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Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? Yes,

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Sir.

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Sandy Cone. 32 56 Crans Avenue, around the corner.

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And I'm here for our neighbors.

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But also, we talked about this last time,

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what defines a landscape light?

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You know, we all know that people put landscape lights

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around their trees around the house wa

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through some wash lights around the house and everything.

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This is a landing pattern for an aircraft. Mm-hmm.

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You know, and I noticed he moved him back

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about eight, 10 feet.

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But he, and then he just put a bunch of 'em all over.

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So he's gonna do whatever you tell him, oh,

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you can't do this, but well, I'll do this.

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Mm-hmm. You know, he's gotta basically come

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to a point where it stops.

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Also, he put like a thousand stickers on his garage door.

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I mean, which is fine for a holiday,

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and then when that holiday's over,

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but there's a holiday, 365 days in his mind.

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Mm-hmm. You know, and also in his garage,

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he has like a hundred boxes in there

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with every holiday thing you could

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possibly, possibly pull out.

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So they've all talked about his sensitive, he all that.

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He's nuts. You've gotta be very

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careful how you do deal with him.

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Um, the man has definitely some problems

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and, uh, he's not gonna listen.

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Yeah. Yeah. So that's where we are. Thank you. Anybody

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Else? Yes,

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Car.

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Hi Gary. 3, 2, 7, 5 Dressen Norford Drive.

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Dennis lives behind me, uh, that it's, uh,

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obviously a problem for all of us, uh,

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including a neighbor myself, abuts him.

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He has a lot of debris in the backyard on the landing.

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There's a lot of debris in the lanai.

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I know that's inside of his home,

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but he has debris on the landing as well.

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And he has a lot of yard waste, uh, in that area.

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So, uh, I approached him one day when he was

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blasting his music.

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He had speakers in the driveway. And I approached him.

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I'd never met him before. And he said it was a retaliatory,

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uh, move because people were complaining about him.

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And he said he was going to play the music loud

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for three hours a day, for two weeks

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to teach everybody a lesson.

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Uh, so I asked him, first of all,

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he talked about being a veteran and whatnot.

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And I am also a veteran.

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So I try to appeal to him that a veteran to a veteran,

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why don't we take care of each other, neighbor to neighbor,

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take care of each other.

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We live in a very confined area.

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And, uh, I told him that,

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and I said, we need to take care of each other.

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So he said, because you asked me nice,

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I'll turn the music down.

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This is the middle, this is the afternoon.

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So, uh, he did, then I saw him a couple days later

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and he said, well, I decided not to play music anymore

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because you asked me.

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Nice. So the concern is, I, I have two,

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I have a lot of concerns.

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That's what my fellow neighbors do,

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but abutting him is this debris in the backyard.

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And I've got to believe that's a, it's a covenant violation,

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but outside the yard

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and on the landing, uh, as far as the landscape, uh,

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yard waste, I asked him if I could, I have,

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pay my landscape and have it removed.

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Can I have permission to enter your property? He said, yes.

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So I paid my landscaper to remove the debris.

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It was for my benefits. I don't have to look at it anymore.

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'cause who knows how long,

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you know, would've remained there.

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Uh, the other concern is, is that any, uh, anything

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that we do to address this issue, we have

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to be prepared for retaliation.

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Uh, that's, that's a very, very big concern.

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So I try to befriend him the best I can

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and take a, a positive approach.

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Uh, and so far it's worked for me as far

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as having debris removed.

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Uh, and the music turned down that given day.

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But, uh, also they pulled, I called the police prior

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to talking to him and they said he can play his music

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till 10 o'clock at night.

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There's nothing we can do about it.

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To me, that's ridiculous, you know, disturbing the piece.

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So, anyway, uh, my biggest concern is,

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and I'm glad everyone was here to support this issue, is

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that property values, of course, uh, are affected.

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And that, uh, retaliation is definitely something

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that we need to be aware of and concerned about.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else? Well, I,

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I just wanna let you know I share your concern.

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I I, I've been by that place several times when we first

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talked about it, even

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before we talked about it in the last

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meeting with going back.

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I've never seen anything like that.

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I mean, it's just, I, I can really sympathize

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with what you're going through.

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So what we're gonna do today in the meeting is, um,

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we're gonna come back into the public hearing.

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We've got a couple of steps we want to take on this thing.

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And we're gonna open that up for public hearing too,

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to hear some of the changes that we're gonna try

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to make on this to put some teeth into this so

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that we can actually get this addressed.

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'cause I know there's been frustration on all parties, from

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what I'm hearing, even in the compliance,

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they can only go so far.

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They need some direction.

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So we want to try to give them the direction too, to be able

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to address some of these things.

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And some of it may not happen right away,

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but if we can get some of that stuff done today,

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we can start moving forward on this.

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But I, I really, I, I really feel for all

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of you, there're going through this.

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'cause I, I, I could just imagine if I was living next door

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to that, what that would be like.

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So we're gonna try to do that today. Okay.

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Um, the next item,

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and we're gonna go into public right next door,

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but I wanna approve the minutes from the last meeting.

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We have a motion to approve the minutes.

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I move Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.

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Any opposed? No. Pays opposed. Okay.

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The next item is the exception of the audit report

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for the fiscal year 24, 25.

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Yes, sir. Good Afternoon, board.

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My name is Sean Boyle with the finance department,

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and I'm, I'm really happy that you have an audience today

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'cause I can brag about how well you run

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the district financially.

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So before I introduce the, uh, auditors, uh, I'd like

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to give you kind of a rundown on

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how well you performed last year.

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And you did it perform exceptionally, uh,

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your revenue came in $126,000 over budget, primarily

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because of investment returns mm-hmm.

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That you, decisions that you made during the year

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and your expenditures came in $66,000, um, under budget.

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Mm-hmm. So we had planned

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to take about $47,000 outta savings or your fund balance.

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We added $145,000 back instead. That's a big turnaround.

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Yeah. Um, and you should all be, uh, very happy with those,

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with those, uh, outcomes.

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Um, with that said, I would like to introduce Helen Painter,

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uh, with Purpose Gray.

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And she is a, uh, uh, audit partner with that firm.

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Wanna remind you and the audience that

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the auditors are selected through an independent process

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determined by the state of Florida

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and that these auditors work for you.

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Mm-hmm. And they report and are accountable to you. Right.

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Um, we do have a great working relationship with 'em.

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Um, they're tough on us, but, uh,

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we have a great relationship with them.

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And Ms. Uh, Helen's gonna go over your, uh, financial

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report for last year.

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Okay. Thank you. So are you flagging

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A little bit earlier than when we get into the, um,

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budget for next year?

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That we're gonna be able to keep our maintenance fee the

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same as what we did since the very beginning?

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And that doesn't happen in all districts. I'll let you know.

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They've increased them by 10%.

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We've kept them since the very beginning. Go ahead.

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Well, good afternoon, Helen Painter, Purvis Gray Company.

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Uh, thank you Mr. Chair

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and Board of Supervisors for having us here today.

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Uh, also with me is Catherine Eno, your audit director.

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We had a large team of, of audit staff that, uh,

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performed the audit for, uh, district 11.

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Now we come in the summer for a few days.

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We spend, uh,

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some time looking at the internal controls and do the planning.

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Uh, and then we start the audit field work in December.

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Your year end is September 30th.

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Uh, and, uh, all the accounting records are closed.

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Uh, your finance team, beginning with your CFO, Mr. Boyle,

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who, uh, introduced me along with, uh, Jennifer Leon Norris

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and your, who, your, is your finance director.

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And then you have an assistant

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finance director along with the team.

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And so their responsibility is to, um,

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have all the accounting records ready for us.

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Uh, and they did, they had all the

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accounting records closed.

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They give us full access to the general ledger, uh,

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and we performed our audit procedures.

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So after all that is done, this is when we report back

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to the board of supervisors

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and we give you, uh, an opinion on the financial statements,

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which is in your board agenda packet.

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Uh, and it's up here on the, um, on your screen.

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Uh, and so this is our audit report addressed

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to the board of supervisors.

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Yes. We do answer to, uh, the board.

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We are engaged by the board,

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and we're saying here that, um, it goes on

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to describe our audit procedures, the scope of an audit,

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and, uh, our opinion.

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And so we are saying

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that these financial statements are fairly presented

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in all material respects.

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So that is an modified clean opinion.

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Uh, so this document

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that's in your agenda packet is also on the website.

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There's bound copies of it.

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Uh, it's also sent to the State

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of Florida Auditor General's office.

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Uh, they do a desk review to make sure that you're doing all

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of the accounting and reporting, uh, in accordance with,

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um, government accounting standards

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and also with the state of Florida.

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So we also are required to look at your internal controls,

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uh, to make sure that you've got proper controls over all

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of the accounting transactions.

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Uh, we are also required to look at your investment.

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So with all your excess reserves,

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you have an investment committee

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and you invest those funds in, um, funds that are, uh,

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authorized investment securities that are authorized

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by the state of Florida, the statutes.

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And, uh, make sure that you are, you know, uh,

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earning enough earnings off of your investments so

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that you can put that right back into your fund balance.

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And so we are required to look at that

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and make sure you're within that, um,

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perimeter of those policies.

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So we, we had no issues

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and we had full cooperation from, uh, all

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of the accounting staff

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and, uh, we're very happy with the outcome.

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Thank you. So we're, uh, happy

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to answer any questions you might have.

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But, uh, this, uh, tells the story of District 11 and,

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and its operations.

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And yes, I'm happy for you that you didn't have

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to raise your maintenance assessment.

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I had a question for you on the, uh, internal controls.

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Any minor or major areas

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that you've identified in there need improvement?

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No, uh, you know, there's, uh,

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separate departments for purchasing.

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Yeah. Uh, for budget, uh, for accounts payable mm-hmm.

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For receipting. And we interview

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and review all those different areas.

505
00:23:12.485 --> 00:23:15.505
And, uh, we found no exceptions when we looked at that.

506
00:23:15.615 --> 00:23:17.465
Okay. Of course, there's always a large volume.

507
00:23:17.685 --> 00:23:20.265
We also, you know, make sure that the expenses

508
00:23:20.405 --> 00:23:22.905
for district 11 are charged to district 11.

509
00:23:23.245 --> 00:23:25.065
Mm-hmm. Your biggest control,

510
00:23:25.385 --> 00:23:28.945
I would say is your budget process stating, you know,

511
00:23:28.945 --> 00:23:30.825
this is what we're going to spend

512
00:23:31.445 --> 00:23:32.665
and, uh, if you need

513
00:23:32.665 --> 00:23:34.985
to spend more than what's in your budget, then you have

514
00:23:34.985 --> 00:23:37.265
to be brought back to you all

515
00:23:37.265 --> 00:23:39.505
and you all have to approve, you know, why you have

516
00:23:39.505 --> 00:23:41.985
to spend additional money on a contract, you know,

517
00:23:41.985 --> 00:23:43.305
if there was a change order and such.

518
00:23:43.365 --> 00:23:45.485
So that keeps your expenses under

519
00:23:45.485 --> 00:23:46.485
Control.

520
00:23:47.315 --> 00:23:48.845
Okay. Thank you. Any

521
00:23:48.845 --> 00:23:50.165
other questions from any of the board members?

522
00:23:51.225 --> 00:23:54.165
No, it's good. Yeah. Thank you very much for the report.

523
00:23:54.255 --> 00:23:55.965
Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

524
00:23:56.105 --> 00:23:58.325
Now we do have, have to have a motion here for approval.

525
00:23:58.725 --> 00:24:00.245
I make a motion to accept that. Okay.

526
00:24:01.755 --> 00:24:05.605
Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Okay. Any nays?

527
00:24:05.675 --> 00:24:07.765
Okay. Motion. Motion carries. Thank you.

528
00:24:08.175 --> 00:24:09.085
Thank you. Thank you.

529
00:24:12.955 --> 00:24:16.405
Okay. The next item of business is, um, uh, public hearing

530
00:24:16.505 --> 00:24:18.645
for resolution 20 26 0 3.

531
00:24:18.645 --> 00:24:19.885
Amending and restating the rule

532
00:24:19.885 --> 00:24:21.645
to bring about the compliance.

533
00:24:23.715 --> 00:24:26.445
Good afternoon board, Shannon Boyd Community Standards.

534
00:24:26.905 --> 00:24:30.245
At your January 6th, 2026 meeting, the board

535
00:24:30.245 --> 00:24:33.045
of Super advisors authorized the publication

536
00:24:33.105 --> 00:24:35.325
of the District 10 to amend

537
00:24:35.325 --> 00:24:37.045
and restate chapter one of its rule

538
00:24:37.045 --> 00:24:38.365
to bring about deed compliance.

539
00:24:38.985 --> 00:24:41.205
The purpose of this amendment is to adopt

540
00:24:41.205 --> 00:24:44.005
and add the definition of nuisance in regard

541
00:24:44.005 --> 00:24:45.165
to exterior lighting.

542
00:24:45.605 --> 00:24:48.805
Establishing a clear definition provides consistent

543
00:24:49.085 --> 00:24:51.645
standards for all property owners, insured's,

544
00:24:51.645 --> 00:24:52.885
predictable enforcement,

545
00:24:53.105 --> 00:24:56.085
and helps prevent light related conflicts before they occur.

546
00:24:56.705 --> 00:24:59.885
By clarifying what constitutes excessive glare,

547
00:25:00.095 --> 00:25:02.925
light trespass, or improperly directed lighting.

548
00:25:03.225 --> 00:25:04.685
The amendment supports a fair

549
00:25:04.685 --> 00:25:07.045
and uniform application of the rule

550
00:25:07.065 --> 00:25:09.365
and encourages residents to make lighting choices

551
00:25:09.835 --> 00:25:13.085
that avoid unintentional impact on neighboring properties.

552
00:25:13.625 --> 00:25:15.965
The impact on the budget would be dependent on the number

553
00:25:15.965 --> 00:25:18.205
of deed compliance concerns received

554
00:25:18.585 --> 00:25:21.685
and public hearings held for the decompliance violations.

555
00:25:22.515 --> 00:25:25.405
Staff's recommendation is staff recommends the board adopt

556
00:25:25.685 --> 00:25:29.445
resolution 2026 dash zero three amending

557
00:25:29.445 --> 00:25:31.845
and restating chapter one of the district's rule

558
00:25:31.845 --> 00:25:34.645
to bring about decompliance as provided hearing

559
00:25:34.865 --> 00:25:36.565
and in accordance with the documents,

560
00:25:36.635 --> 00:25:38.485
including in with this agenda item.

561
00:25:38.665 --> 00:25:40.605
And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

562
00:25:42.185 --> 00:25:43.965
Object, Ms.

563
00:25:44.105 --> 00:25:46.205
Boy, do you have many

564
00:25:46.925 --> 00:25:49.645
lighting complaints within our district,

565
00:25:49.905 --> 00:25:51.965
or is this the only one?

566
00:25:53.525 --> 00:25:55.765
I can't, I don't know the number off of my head,

567
00:25:55.785 --> 00:25:58.205
but I can't say that lighting is a, is a main concern

568
00:25:58.205 --> 00:25:59.285
that we receive a lot of.

569
00:26:00.415 --> 00:26:01.415
Thank you.

570
00:26:03.685 --> 00:26:05.245
Anything else from the board here on question?

571
00:26:05.685 --> 00:26:08.325
I I have a question about, uh, I, I realize

572
00:26:08.325 --> 00:26:10.805
that this thing addresses, this nuisance addresses a lot

573
00:26:10.805 --> 00:26:13.885
of stuff, but I was, uh, questioning whether

574
00:26:14.025 --> 00:26:17.205
or not, uh, uh, liquid lights and,

575
00:26:17.265 --> 00:26:20.285
and I'm not the brand name liquid lights,

576
00:26:20.345 --> 00:26:24.485
but that type of light is, is required by arc review.

577
00:26:25.345 --> 00:26:27.805
And when I go down through the next part of the packet

578
00:26:27.805 --> 00:26:31.405
that I received, I see that exterior strip lighting,

579
00:26:31.505 --> 00:26:34.765
liquid lights, and similar light sources are prohibited,

580
00:26:35.065 --> 00:26:36.285
has been crossed out.

581
00:26:37.195 --> 00:26:39.205
Correct. Okay. And I guess,

582
00:26:39.945 --> 00:26:43.605
And that will be, that will be another, um, agenda item

583
00:26:44.055 --> 00:26:47.525
after this public hearing will be

584
00:26:47.525 --> 00:26:49.285
for the architectural review manual change.

585
00:26:49.635 --> 00:26:51.605
Okay. That you see there. Thank you. Yeah.

586
00:26:53.675 --> 00:26:56.485
Okay. So let's open the public hearing at this point.

587
00:26:56.675 --> 00:26:58.245
Yeah. We'll, we're gonna, we're gonna open it up

588
00:26:58.245 --> 00:26:59.765
for public, for public hearing.

589
00:27:00.265 --> 00:27:01.325
Any, uh, comments?

590
00:27:01.425 --> 00:27:03.245
You come up to the podium, state your name and,

591
00:27:03.305 --> 00:27:04.485
and address and comments.

592
00:27:05.945 --> 00:27:06.945
Yes.

593
00:27:14.005 --> 00:27:15.885
Lighting is lighting, But please,

594
00:27:15.885 --> 00:27:16.925
please, ma'am, please talk.

595
00:27:16.925 --> 00:27:18.045
Excuse me. Take your name

596
00:27:18.185 --> 00:27:19.685
and then talk into the microphone so we can

597
00:27:19.885 --> 00:27:20.885
Record it. Lighting

598
00:27:20.885 --> 00:27:22.245
is lighting. So why is,

599
00:27:22.305 --> 00:27:23.765
why would they cross out about the,

600
00:27:23.945 --> 00:27:26.085
all those other lights he had, like, that's on the house?

601
00:27:26.705 --> 00:27:28.525
In other words, there's just certain ones

602
00:27:28.525 --> 00:27:30.925
that he shouldn't have and you can still have those bright

603
00:27:30.925 --> 00:27:32.445
lights all around the entire house.

604
00:27:32.905 --> 00:27:34.125
That's why I'm a little confused.

605
00:27:34.455 --> 00:27:36.165
Ma'am, if, for for the record, can you, um,

606
00:27:36.165 --> 00:27:37.445
include your name and address?

607
00:27:37.585 --> 00:27:40.645
My name again? Maria Cha. 3 2 8 4 Webster Way. Thank you.

608
00:27:41.265 --> 00:27:43.245
Um, so the rule that's

609
00:27:43.245 --> 00:27:44.645
before the board right now is

610
00:27:44.645 --> 00:27:47.205
to adopt the definition of a nuisance.

611
00:27:47.595 --> 00:27:50.325
Okay. And that does contain elements of

612
00:27:50.325 --> 00:27:52.005
what is considered nuisance lighting.

613
00:27:52.785 --> 00:27:57.365
Um, so there is a, a, um, a description

614
00:27:57.625 --> 00:28:00.205
of that included within this amended rule.

615
00:28:00.785 --> 00:28:01.925
Um, the information

616
00:28:01.925 --> 00:28:04.645
that supervisor Russell mentioned is a second item

617
00:28:04.675 --> 00:28:06.085
further down on the agenda.

618
00:28:06.705 --> 00:28:10.565
Um, but essentially it would eliminate discussion

619
00:28:10.565 --> 00:28:11.765
of lighting approval in there,

620
00:28:11.865 --> 00:28:15.365
but rely on the nuisance definition. Okay. So,

621
00:28:15.625 --> 00:28:17.245
And again, go ahead.

622
00:28:17.935 --> 00:28:21.845
Could, could we, so that this group knows that we know

623
00:28:22.155 --> 00:28:23.725
what nuisance means.

624
00:28:24.455 --> 00:28:29.285
Could someone please read this, read the nuisance definition

625
00:28:29.585 --> 00:28:31.085
for this group so they know exactly

626
00:28:31.355 --> 00:28:32.365
what we're talking about?

627
00:28:34.075 --> 00:28:37.125
Okay. Thank you. You wanna do that?

628
00:28:43.795 --> 00:28:45.765
Okay. So the definition

629
00:28:45.785 --> 00:28:49.005
for nuisance definition is nuisance means any use

630
00:28:49.005 --> 00:28:51.245
of exterior lighting on a property

631
00:28:51.555 --> 00:28:54.245
that unreasonably interferes with the use

632
00:28:54.265 --> 00:28:56.605
and enjoyment of neighboring properties

633
00:28:56.705 --> 00:29:00.005
or adversely affects the public health, safety, or welfare.

634
00:29:01.045 --> 00:29:04.045
Exterior lighting constitutes a nuisance when it produces

635
00:29:04.045 --> 00:29:05.925
excessive glare, brightness,

636
00:29:05.945 --> 00:29:08.605
or light trespass beyond the boundaries of the property,

637
00:29:08.995 --> 00:29:11.605
such as it causes discomfort, distraction,

638
00:29:11.685 --> 00:29:14.525
or loss of visibility to adjoining property owners,

639
00:29:14.875 --> 00:29:16.165
occupants or motorists.

640
00:29:16.645 --> 00:29:17.725
A nuisance may be found

641
00:29:17.725 --> 00:29:20.685
where lighting is improperly directed unshielded

642
00:29:20.685 --> 00:29:22.525
or of such intensity or duration

643
00:29:22.795 --> 00:29:24.885
that it disrupts normal nighttime use

644
00:29:24.885 --> 00:29:28.245
of adjacent properties in truth into residential dwellings

645
00:29:28.425 --> 00:29:31.845
or alters the character of the surrounding area beyond

646
00:29:31.845 --> 00:29:34.645
what is, uh, reasonable under the circumstances.

647
00:29:36.185 --> 00:29:38.005
But that addresses the issue

648
00:29:38.005 --> 00:29:40.605
that came up from the last meeting, from the, from the folks

649
00:29:40.605 --> 00:29:41.645
that were bringing this up.

650
00:29:41.645 --> 00:29:42.965
That's why we were putting that Correct.

651
00:29:46.345 --> 00:29:48.525
And Mr. Chairman, this will allow staff,

652
00:29:48.985 --> 00:29:52.885
if a complaint comes in, this will allow them

653
00:29:52.905 --> 00:29:55.525
to rely on the definition of what nuisance,

654
00:29:55.595 --> 00:29:59.085
what is a nuisance, to move forward with that complaint

655
00:29:59.265 --> 00:30:00.265
And verify. Right. Which, which

656
00:30:00.265 --> 00:30:01.005
you couldn't do

657
00:30:01.005 --> 00:30:03.045
before. And that's, that's the big

658
00:30:03.045 --> 00:30:04.005
Change. It was very subjective.

659
00:30:04.025 --> 00:30:05.245
Yes. It was too subjective.

660
00:30:05.245 --> 00:30:08.045
Now, now it kind of gives you teeth

661
00:30:08.065 --> 00:30:09.365
to go after something like this.

662
00:30:09.365 --> 00:30:13.045
Correct. Right. Yeah. Okay. Uh, you have a comment? Yes.

663
00:30:13.045 --> 00:30:14.045
Come on.

664
00:30:20.185 --> 00:30:21.445
Hi, my name is Wayne Bryant.

665
00:30:21.525 --> 00:30:24.685
I live at 32 61 Webster Way. And I just have a

666
00:30:24.885 --> 00:30:25.885
Question.

667
00:30:26.595 --> 00:30:30.405
Does the CDD come out at night to examine property?

668
00:30:31.945 --> 00:30:33.645
But that's when this is all happening. Okay.

669
00:30:33.645 --> 00:30:37.405
Wait a minute. Wait. Right.

670
00:30:37.425 --> 00:30:39.325
You, you, you wanna answer that, Shannon?

671
00:30:39.575 --> 00:30:40.765
Thank you. Thank you.

672
00:30:41.625 --> 00:30:44.085
Yes. If needed, under certain circumstances, staff,

673
00:30:44.185 --> 00:30:47.765
we will go out to look at, um, to address lighting.

674
00:30:48.105 --> 00:30:50.165
But usually when we receive a complaint, we need a picture

675
00:30:50.225 --> 00:30:53.085
or a photograph to show what it looks like.

676
00:30:53.385 --> 00:30:54.725
And then we'll, staff will go out

677
00:30:54.845 --> 00:30:56.405
and check ourselves. Okay. And verify.

678
00:30:56.795 --> 00:30:58.165
Okay. So,

679
00:30:59.635 --> 00:31:02.565
Yeah, Uh, just a just a point of clarification.

680
00:31:02.835 --> 00:31:07.125
When the folks were here before they had pictures and,

681
00:31:07.265 --> 00:31:11.565
and none of this was, none of this was covered under

682
00:31:11.565 --> 00:31:13.045
that nuisance factor.

683
00:31:13.225 --> 00:31:15.765
So therefore the pictures, you couldn't,

684
00:31:15.865 --> 00:31:17.805
you could not address those pictures

685
00:31:17.805 --> 00:31:20.445
because there was, there were no rules to prohibit

686
00:31:21.275 --> 00:31:22.645
what the pictures were showing.

687
00:31:23.465 --> 00:31:27.165
So with, with those same pictures today,

688
00:31:27.705 --> 00:31:31.565
the nuisance factor weighs in on that,

689
00:31:31.615 --> 00:31:36.165
which will allow you to, uh, take action. Is that

690
00:31:36.165 --> 00:31:37.165
Correct? Yes, sir.

691
00:31:37.165 --> 00:31:40.045
Okay. Yes. Yes, sir.

692
00:31:47.865 --> 00:31:50.765
I'm Judy Bryant, 32 61 Webster Way.

693
00:31:51.385 --> 00:31:53.005
My question is, um,

694
00:31:53.265 --> 00:31:55.685
the liquid lights across the street from us,

695
00:31:56.985 --> 00:31:59.045
he can vary the intensity of those.

696
00:31:59.185 --> 00:32:01.005
And so if he's retaliating,

697
00:32:01.225 --> 00:32:04.445
the lights go very bright one night, but he can mute them.

698
00:32:04.785 --> 00:32:07.645
And I don't know how you can control that if he's allowed

699
00:32:07.645 --> 00:32:08.725
to keep the lights,

700
00:32:09.035 --> 00:32:11.885
because it's whatever his mood is determines

701
00:32:12.025 --> 00:32:13.485
how bright the lights are gonna be.

702
00:32:17.785 --> 00:32:21.125
You wanna go ahead answer. Do you wanna respond to that?

703
00:32:21.835 --> 00:32:23.325
Sure. I'll, I'll address that.

704
00:32:23.665 --> 00:32:26.365
So one of the reasons why the,

705
00:32:26.425 --> 00:32:28.405
the board is addressing it in this manner,

706
00:32:28.625 --> 00:32:31.805
and please interrupt if I misspeak, is that

707
00:32:34.165 --> 00:32:37.205
allowing the def there are lights that exist, such as

708
00:32:37.785 --> 00:32:40.125
that's a brand name of a particular type.

709
00:32:40.265 --> 00:32:44.525
But, um, generally speaking, people are using them, um, to

710
00:32:45.675 --> 00:32:48.645
enhance their, um, landscaping installations.

711
00:32:48.835 --> 00:32:50.685
They're very tastefully done.

712
00:32:51.265 --> 00:32:54.685
Um, because there was no definition of a nuisance,

713
00:32:54.785 --> 00:32:58.285
it was very subjective on how to differentiate between

714
00:32:59.755 --> 00:33:03.205
what is acceptable and what is distracting

715
00:33:03.305 --> 00:33:07.245
or impeding your ability to enjoy the, the use of your home.

716
00:33:07.825 --> 00:33:12.045
Um, so this, the, the board will rely on this definition

717
00:33:12.105 --> 00:33:14.845
to determine whether it is acceptable

718
00:33:14.905 --> 00:33:17.885
or unacceptable based on the nuisance definition.

719
00:33:19.105 --> 00:33:21.205
The, the biggest issue that I see is,

720
00:33:21.425 --> 00:33:24.005
and you look around the villages now, a lot

721
00:33:24.005 --> 00:33:26.685
of people are putting security lights on around their house,

722
00:33:26.935 --> 00:33:28.645
which is, which is not intrusive.

723
00:33:29.025 --> 00:33:32.285
But if they turn those things outward, it's intrusive.

724
00:33:32.705 --> 00:33:34.005
And that's what the nuisance hits

725
00:33:34.025 --> 00:33:35.405
and says, you can't do that.

726
00:33:36.065 --> 00:33:38.085
But you can still keep security in your home

727
00:33:38.185 --> 00:33:39.885
and you can still light up the areas.

728
00:33:40.115 --> 00:33:42.365
Like some people do it for plants, some people do it

729
00:33:42.365 --> 00:33:45.005
around the, the dark areas of their house be, you know,

730
00:33:45.005 --> 00:33:46.605
and just for more of a security perspective.

731
00:33:46.825 --> 00:33:48.365
That's the distinction here.

732
00:33:48.365 --> 00:33:51.565
And so we didn't want to, um, at least from my perspective,

733
00:33:51.685 --> 00:33:54.405
I didn't think we wanted to do up car blanc

734
00:33:54.405 --> 00:33:56.565
because we'd have to wipe out everybody

735
00:33:56.565 --> 00:33:57.805
that put these lights in the house

736
00:33:58.105 --> 00:33:59.725
and it would be a, it'd be a chaos.

737
00:34:00.235 --> 00:34:02.085
It's only when it's a nuisance issue

738
00:34:02.085 --> 00:34:03.925
and it's causing a problem with the neighbors.

739
00:34:04.235 --> 00:34:05.445
Okay. And that, you see that,

740
00:34:07.045 --> 00:34:08.045
I just have a question. So

741
00:34:08.045 --> 00:34:09.725
in this case, if he,

742
00:34:10.425 --> 00:34:13.605
if this person continually puts his lights on bright when

743
00:34:13.605 --> 00:34:16.925
he's upset, would they force him to take down the lights

744
00:34:17.025 --> 00:34:19.045
Or, or strobe lights or anything like that? Well, he

745
00:34:19.045 --> 00:34:20.045
Does. Yeah. Well, he has the flickering

746
00:34:20.045 --> 00:34:21.085
lights anyway. Yeah.

747
00:34:21.165 --> 00:34:22.565
I mean, yeah. But, uh,

748
00:34:22.625 --> 00:34:26.125
but on his liquid lights, they go, if he's upset,

749
00:34:26.125 --> 00:34:29.085
they're bright, but other nights they're normal.

750
00:34:29.345 --> 00:34:32.045
But he has like double strands of all these lights to it.

751
00:34:32.045 --> 00:34:35.245
It's not just one thing. Everything is excessive.

752
00:34:35.865 --> 00:34:39.245
And I just don't know if they would have the ability to say,

753
00:34:39.265 --> 00:34:41.525
you can't have those kind of lights

754
00:34:41.525 --> 00:34:43.685
because you turn them up.

755
00:34:44.145 --> 00:34:45.165
You Okay.

756
00:34:45.225 --> 00:34:46.925
You wanna address that, Brittany, how you would handle that?

757
00:34:47.555 --> 00:34:50.125
Sure. So when a complaint comes in, um,

758
00:34:50.385 --> 00:34:54.245
to the deep compliance office, um, they first have

759
00:34:54.245 --> 00:34:56.245
to determine if it is a valid complaint,

760
00:34:56.305 --> 00:34:57.685
if it is a valid complaint.

761
00:34:58.065 --> 00:35:01.885
Um, generally speaking, it starts with an educational effort

762
00:35:02.025 --> 00:35:03.805
to the resident to come into compliance.

763
00:35:04.055 --> 00:35:06.245
Their goal is always gonna be voluntary compliance.

764
00:35:07.025 --> 00:35:09.125
If they do not come into compliance

765
00:35:09.425 --> 00:35:12.845
and they go through the notice process, um,

766
00:35:12.995 --> 00:35:16.365
this board does use a hearing officer, a special magistrate

767
00:35:16.425 --> 00:35:17.765
for their, their public hearing.

768
00:35:18.425 --> 00:35:20.085
Um, if they don't come into compliance,

769
00:35:20.445 --> 00:35:22.085
ultimately they will get notice for a public hearing

770
00:35:22.085 --> 00:35:23.885
that will go before Judge Neal.

771
00:35:24.305 --> 00:35:28.005
Um, at that time, um, the property owner

772
00:35:28.265 --> 00:35:31.325
and any, um, impacted residence have the ability

773
00:35:31.325 --> 00:35:34.525
to give evidence and testimony during that public hearing.

774
00:35:35.105 --> 00:35:37.805
Um, and that will allow her to make a ruling

775
00:35:38.225 --> 00:35:42.685
and potentially impose fines if needed. Thank you.

776
00:35:43.085 --> 00:35:46.165
I I think it's similar to the fact that, um,

777
00:35:46.385 --> 00:35:49.485
we have indeed compliance related to an rv

778
00:35:49.865 --> 00:35:52.285
and there's a restriction on how many, how, I think it's

779
00:35:52.285 --> 00:35:53.485
what, 48 72 hours?

780
00:35:53.485 --> 00:35:55.565
Something like. Yeah.

781
00:35:55.565 --> 00:35:58.285
That you, that you have, you can only keep the RV there.

782
00:35:58.745 --> 00:36:01.205
So when they get, if they exceed that,

783
00:36:01.515 --> 00:36:03.365
then Decompliance would go

784
00:36:03.505 --> 00:36:06.485
and say, you can't, you have to, you have to remove that.

785
00:36:06.945 --> 00:36:09.325
And they do, and then they come back and it comes back

786
00:36:09.325 --> 00:36:11.325
after another two weeks, they bring it back.

787
00:36:11.785 --> 00:36:14.005
That's when the, the hammer gets

788
00:36:14.715 --> 00:36:15.715
Correct. You, there's

789
00:36:15.715 --> 00:36:16.925
a reoccurring problem. There's

790
00:36:16.925 --> 00:36:18.725
A reoccurring problem, and that and that.

791
00:36:18.725 --> 00:36:19.965
And they get dinged for that one.

792
00:36:19.965 --> 00:36:21.445
Correct. When it's reoccurring,

793
00:36:21.445 --> 00:36:22.725
they don't get the three letters.

794
00:36:22.795 --> 00:36:25.485
They go directly to public hearing. So they get one letter.

795
00:36:25.695 --> 00:36:28.285
Right. Um, even if they bring the property into compliance

796
00:36:28.455 --> 00:36:30.565
prior to that, they still go to that public hearing.

797
00:36:31.225 --> 00:36:32.845
And then if they do it again,

798
00:36:32.915 --> 00:36:36.365
it's considered a repeat violation where they can be, um,

799
00:36:36.365 --> 00:36:37.965
ordered to pay $500

800
00:36:38.505 --> 00:36:41.485
and $500 a day until the property's brought into compliance.

801
00:36:41.995 --> 00:36:44.965
Yeah. So this, this nuisance will allow you to do that

802
00:36:44.965 --> 00:36:47.605
because you have a complaint, you go in and say it,

803
00:36:47.825 --> 00:36:49.165
and you better fix that complaint.

804
00:36:49.225 --> 00:36:51.445
If it happens again, then,

805
00:36:51.875 --> 00:36:54.005
then you start levering the fines on the person.

806
00:36:54.215 --> 00:36:56.885
Right? Well, well it goes into the magistrate

807
00:36:56.885 --> 00:36:58.365
and then the fines would be lever. Correct.

808
00:36:58.545 --> 00:37:00.085
But yes, it goes a reoccurring

809
00:37:00.085 --> 00:37:01.605
and repeat goes straight to public hearing.

810
00:37:01.705 --> 00:37:02.885
Yep. So you do have that.

811
00:37:03.035 --> 00:37:04.045
Okay. Thank you.

812
00:37:08.735 --> 00:37:11.325
Steve Waterhouse 32 63 Kranz app.

813
00:37:11.965 --> 00:37:13.005
I think it's both amazing

814
00:37:13.145 --> 00:37:15.605
and stunning that we haven't had this yet

815
00:37:15.945 --> 00:37:18.725
and that we've gotten this far in, in this section

816
00:37:18.725 --> 00:37:20.205
of the villages without having

817
00:37:20.205 --> 00:37:21.885
to have this kind of a, of a rule.

818
00:37:22.305 --> 00:37:24.485
So I hope that you'll take this forward.

819
00:37:24.765 --> 00:37:26.005
I hope you take it very seriously

820
00:37:26.185 --> 00:37:27.805
and hopefully it does not become something

821
00:37:27.805 --> 00:37:28.845
you have to use a lot.

822
00:37:29.055 --> 00:37:31.525
Right. Um, but it's, it's, uh, nice

823
00:37:31.525 --> 00:37:33.285
that you've taken control of it.

824
00:37:33.425 --> 00:37:35.885
Now we just have to enforce it. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

825
00:37:35.895 --> 00:37:36.895
Thank you.

826
00:37:39.205 --> 00:37:42.285
Question, uh, Donna Burns de drive, um,

827
00:37:45.445 --> 00:37:48.485
I was agreeing with him this exterior strip lighting,

828
00:37:48.585 --> 00:37:51.365
liquid lights and similar light sources are prohibited.

829
00:37:51.505 --> 00:37:53.445
That's pretty crystal clear to me.

830
00:37:54.305 --> 00:37:57.165
Is there no way you can keep that language in here?

831
00:37:57.165 --> 00:38:00.285
Because this is legally, and you know,

832
00:38:00.345 --> 00:38:03.245
but when you read this, it clearly says

833
00:38:03.985 --> 00:38:07.605
you can't have strip lighting, you can't have liquid lights,

834
00:38:07.785 --> 00:38:09.285
you can't have this.

835
00:38:09.545 --> 00:38:13.605
Can this, that language is very clear that, uh,

836
00:38:13.985 --> 00:38:16.005
and maybe I'm missing something here, but, uh,

837
00:38:16.125 --> 00:38:17.725
I think I was missing something, ma'am.

838
00:38:17.825 --> 00:38:20.245
Uh, I, I, I think that, uh, that, that,

839
00:38:20.355 --> 00:38:23.045
that may well have been Xed out in something

840
00:38:23.045 --> 00:38:24.365
that I have in front of me,

841
00:38:24.505 --> 00:38:27.365
but it's being brought up again someplace else.

842
00:38:27.365 --> 00:38:29.005
Alright. So this language is

843
00:38:29.765 --> 00:38:31.445
reappear was error somewhere else.

844
00:38:31.685 --> 00:38:34.605
I I was in error. Okay. It's gonna be written

845
00:38:34.755 --> 00:38:35.755
Hearing right now.

846
00:38:36.255 --> 00:38:38.565
We're, we're dealing with the nuisance piece of that mes.

847
00:38:38.635 --> 00:38:42.765
Okay. Okay. So any other Yes, sir.

848
00:38:47.435 --> 00:38:50.725
Just Sandy Cone. 32 56 Crans Avenue.

849
00:38:51.025 --> 00:38:54.285
So just to continue on with that, so

850
00:38:54.675 --> 00:38:58.405
that language is going to go into the architectural,

851
00:38:58.625 --> 00:38:59.645
uh, review board.

852
00:39:00.025 --> 00:39:02.645
That's something that they would have to deal with.

853
00:39:03.475 --> 00:39:05.845
Well, no. So where, why are we taking

854
00:39:05.875 --> 00:39:07.645
that language out of, of that?

855
00:39:08.305 --> 00:39:12.045
And Mr. Chairman, so this public hearing is specifically

856
00:39:12.105 --> 00:39:13.405
for the nuisance definitions.

857
00:39:13.405 --> 00:39:14.765
The ance, we're, we're getting sidetracked

858
00:39:14.765 --> 00:39:15.805
on it because we're trying,

859
00:39:15.805 --> 00:39:16.765
It's going to be item

860
00:39:20.965 --> 00:39:21.965
D. Where is this? Yes,

861
00:39:21.965 --> 00:39:22.645
it's D

862
00:39:23.425 --> 00:39:24.765
Oh, that's another one. Yeah.

863
00:39:24.765 --> 00:39:25.885
Different one. Okay. Yep. Under

864
00:39:25.885 --> 00:39:27.365
Old business item B. Yes. Okay.

865
00:39:27.365 --> 00:39:29.525
Under D Then, um, the last thing I'll,

866
00:39:29.525 --> 00:39:31.885
I'll bring up is we all know about the

867
00:39:32.445 --> 00:39:35.485
$170,000 cost for the cross

868
00:39:35.505 --> 00:39:37.325
and the guy got sued and everything else.

869
00:39:38.595 --> 00:39:40.045
This guy's not gonna go piloting

870
00:39:40.705 --> 00:39:42.125
and he'll probably lawyer up

871
00:39:42.125 --> 00:39:43.445
and do all the things he does mm-hmm.

872
00:39:43.525 --> 00:39:46.805
And everything else. So we don't want to get into $170,000

873
00:39:48.055 --> 00:39:49.565
fight with this person.

874
00:39:49.905 --> 00:39:51.605
Um, it's almost worth buying his house out

875
00:39:51.605 --> 00:39:52.725
and, uh, getting him outta here.

876
00:39:53.145 --> 00:39:57.245
But, uh, So just, uh, just those thoughts, uh, on that

877
00:39:57.315 --> 00:39:58.315
Side. Thank you. Thank

878
00:39:58.315 --> 00:40:00.405
you. Okay.

879
00:40:00.765 --> 00:40:04.245
Anything else from public hearing on the nuisance? Okay.

880
00:40:05.225 --> 00:40:08.685
So I'm gonna close the public hearing at this point.

881
00:40:09.105 --> 00:40:10.485
So the public hearing is closed.

882
00:40:11.945 --> 00:40:13.805
And then we will discuss this with the board

883
00:40:13.985 --> 00:40:17.045
for the resolution of, of the, you wanna repeat the, uh,

884
00:40:17.535 --> 00:40:20.325
again, what we're, uh, the

885
00:40:20.485 --> 00:40:21.485
Nuisance? Yes. So staff's

886
00:40:21.485 --> 00:40:23.005
recommendation of staff recommends

887
00:40:23.005 --> 00:40:26.965
that the board adopt the resolution 2026 dash zero three

888
00:40:27.445 --> 00:40:30.445
amending and restating chapter one of the district's rule

889
00:40:30.445 --> 00:40:33.525
to bring about deed compliance as provided herein

890
00:40:33.525 --> 00:40:35.685
and in accordance with the documents included

891
00:40:35.685 --> 00:40:36.845
within this agenda item.

892
00:40:37.795 --> 00:40:41.685
Okay. Do we have a motion to approve that? So moved.

893
00:40:42.465 --> 00:40:43.845
Oh, yeah. You have a question? We have discussion

894
00:40:43.935 --> 00:40:45.485
After the Motion or No, no.

895
00:40:45.485 --> 00:40:47.125
We'll have a discussion right now if you wanna a discussion.

896
00:40:47.385 --> 00:40:49.485
So, uh, there were three, three key items

897
00:40:49.675 --> 00:40:53.045
that were brought up in the, in the, uh, conversation prior

898
00:40:53.225 --> 00:40:54.285
to this mm-hmm.

899
00:40:54.365 --> 00:40:56.285
Hearing one was education,

900
00:40:56.855 --> 00:40:57.685
Right. Uh,

901
00:40:57.915 --> 00:40:59.525
Another one was approach.

902
00:41:00.095 --> 00:41:02.605
Right. And the Other is retaliation.

903
00:41:02.775 --> 00:41:05.685
Right. And those are all fears Correct.

904
00:41:05.795 --> 00:41:06.795
That Our, that Our

905
00:41:06.795 --> 00:41:07.685
Exactly.

906
00:41:07.845 --> 00:41:10.645
Residents have. And I think the education part of that,

907
00:41:10.705 --> 00:41:13.485
uh, compliment for, uh, for thinking about

908
00:41:13.485 --> 00:41:14.525
that education part.

909
00:41:15.145 --> 00:41:19.205
And I, I think that, that the approach factor here is, uh,

910
00:41:19.225 --> 00:41:20.885
is paramount because mm-hmm.

911
00:41:20.965 --> 00:41:23.765
Because if we're dealing with a loose cannon, we're dealing

912
00:41:23.765 --> 00:41:24.765
with a loose cannon.

913
00:41:24.765 --> 00:41:28.125
Right. Um, and I think

914
00:41:28.125 --> 00:41:30.885
that the retaliation is also something that's, uh,

915
00:41:30.885 --> 00:41:31.885
that is significant.

916
00:41:31.985 --> 00:41:34.805
And I think that we just simply need to be aware of that.

917
00:41:35.585 --> 00:41:39.085
Uh, I can tell you that I've been approached by a member

918
00:41:39.185 --> 00:41:43.485
of the CDD team board who happens to live

919
00:41:43.555 --> 00:41:48.085
between two houses that, that have these lights that

920
00:41:48.875 --> 00:41:51.885
work, uh, drives her nuts.

921
00:41:52.825 --> 00:41:56.685
And, uh, she's waiting for this vote from this board so

922
00:41:56.685 --> 00:42:00.045
that they can bring it to the court team board to, uh,

923
00:42:00.235 --> 00:42:02.605
also include this language in their,

924
00:42:02.745 --> 00:42:04.765
uh, in what they're doing.

925
00:42:05.225 --> 00:42:09.165
But, but I just, uh, I think that it's incredibly important

926
00:42:09.275 --> 00:42:10.805
that we fix this problem,

927
00:42:11.065 --> 00:42:13.525
but I think we need to be aware of, of,

928
00:42:13.665 --> 00:42:15.285
of those three, three things

929
00:42:15.675 --> 00:42:16.925
That, okay.

930
00:42:17.265 --> 00:42:18.565
Any other comments or questions

931
00:42:18.565 --> 00:42:22.045
before we You were gonna say something?

932
00:42:23.065 --> 00:42:24.065
Of course. Go ahead.

933
00:42:25.005 --> 00:42:29.005
I don't see as respectfully

934
00:42:29.835 --> 00:42:34.365
that we treat anybody any differently than mm-hmm.

935
00:42:35.465 --> 00:42:38.645
In the villages. We are not here to baby

936
00:42:39.485 --> 00:42:41.805
somebody That could be a loose cannon.

937
00:42:42.345 --> 00:42:47.045
We, these rules have been in place since 1979,

938
00:42:48.305 --> 00:42:52.805
2014 here, and we've all gotta be treated the same.

939
00:42:52.955 --> 00:42:54.805
Exactly. So that's

940
00:42:55.425 --> 00:42:56.425
Mm-hmm.

941
00:42:57.305 --> 00:42:58.605
My opinion for

942
00:42:58.605 --> 00:42:59.605
What it's worth. Any other

943
00:42:59.605 --> 00:43:01.845
comments? Okay.

944
00:43:03.025 --> 00:43:05.285
Do we have motion to approve this resolution?

945
00:43:06.225 --> 00:43:07.445
So moved. Second.

946
00:43:07.865 --> 00:43:10.925
All those in favor say aye. Aye. And a nays. Okay.

947
00:43:10.985 --> 00:43:12.845
Motion carries. Thank you. You,

948
00:43:12.905 --> 00:43:13.905
You, Shannon.

949
00:43:14.675 --> 00:43:17.245
Okay. And Ms. Boyd's gonna remain at the podium.

950
00:43:18.535 --> 00:43:19.725
We're talking about the architectural.

951
00:43:19.825 --> 00:43:21.005
So both of your, both

952
00:43:21.005 --> 00:43:23.925
of your old business items on your tracking sheet are the

953
00:43:24.005 --> 00:43:25.725
items that are included on the agenda.

954
00:43:26.305 --> 00:43:30.645
Um, so we will move to the architectural review, uh,

955
00:43:30.705 --> 00:43:31.725
manual revision,

956
00:43:32.865 --> 00:43:35.685
and I'll let Ms. Boyd, um, review those proposed changes.

957
00:43:36.225 --> 00:43:38.645
Yes. Good afternoon. Shannon Boyd. Community standards.

958
00:43:38.865 --> 00:43:40.805
So at your January 6th Board

959
00:43:40.805 --> 00:43:43.805
of supervisors meeting staff presented information

960
00:43:43.805 --> 00:43:46.885
regarding a proposed definition for nuisance lighting.

961
00:43:47.225 --> 00:43:48.365
During the discussion,

962
00:43:48.365 --> 00:43:50.925
the board considered adding the nuisance lighting definition

963
00:43:50.925 --> 00:43:54.205
to the standards and removing the prohibition on exterior

964
00:43:54.335 --> 00:43:57.125
strip lighting, liquid lights, and similar light sources.

965
00:43:57.235 --> 00:44:00.205
From the architectural review manual, the board

966
00:44:00.205 --> 00:44:02.405
of supervisors directed staff to prepare

967
00:44:02.705 --> 00:44:06.125
and present a proposed a RC manual revision at the

968
00:44:06.125 --> 00:44:08.285
March 10th board meeting for consideration

969
00:44:08.875 --> 00:44:11.245
staff's recommendation of staff recommends the board

970
00:44:11.245 --> 00:44:14.965
of supervisors review the proposed a RC manual change,

971
00:44:14.965 --> 00:44:17.765
provide any feedback, and if no recommendations

972
00:44:17.765 --> 00:44:21.765
or changes are requested, approve the a RC manual revision

973
00:44:22.185 --> 00:44:26.125
as presented and to take effect March 10th, 2026.

974
00:44:26.505 --> 00:44:30.085
So as you'll see on the A RC manual under exterior lights,

975
00:44:30.545 --> 00:44:32.885
uh, if you did want to remove that section,

976
00:44:33.105 --> 00:44:34.725
we would just remove the last sentence,

977
00:44:34.975 --> 00:44:38.245
which is exterior strip lighting, liquid lights,

978
00:44:38.585 --> 00:44:41.045
and similar light sources are prohibited.

979
00:44:41.265 --> 00:44:44.085
So we would remove that mm-hmm. Sentence.

980
00:44:44.985 --> 00:44:49.045
Why are we taking that out? Well, go ahead.

981
00:44:49.635 --> 00:44:52.285
Well, that would be, again, that's board decision.

982
00:44:52.585 --> 00:44:54.525
Um, but because you have the nuisance lighting,

983
00:44:55.195 --> 00:44:57.805
this would permit people to still have those lights.

984
00:44:57.865 --> 00:45:00.645
But if they use it in a way that is a nuisance,

985
00:45:00.875 --> 00:45:02.765
then we could address it with the nuisance lighting

986
00:45:02.765 --> 00:45:04.365
definition that you just approved.

987
00:45:04.555 --> 00:45:06.565
This is too, this, this too prescriptive

988
00:45:06.565 --> 00:45:09.245
because this, this could fall into the area

989
00:45:09.265 --> 00:45:11.725
of the architectural lights that you have or,

990
00:45:12.185 --> 00:45:13.445
or your, you know, you put in

991
00:45:13.445 --> 00:45:14.605
your shrubs and stuff like that.

992
00:45:14.945 --> 00:45:16.645
The nuisance covers it more broad.

993
00:45:16.785 --> 00:45:18.885
It basically covers what we're trying to get.

994
00:45:19.425 --> 00:45:20.805
So that's not necessarily,

995
00:45:21.805 --> 00:45:23.045
I don't think it's necessary in there.

996
00:45:27.205 --> 00:45:30.445
'cause the nuisance covers it all. I move, we approve.

997
00:45:34.385 --> 00:45:35.685
Um, if you'd like, I got a motion.

998
00:45:35.735 --> 00:45:38.565
Let's get a second and then you can discuss. Okay. Second.

999
00:45:39.035 --> 00:45:41.725
Okay, go ahead.

1000
00:45:42.945 --> 00:45:45.125
Uh, does somebody want to comment on Yes. Can I just honor

1001
00:45:45.955 --> 00:45:47.125
Just understanding the process?

1002
00:45:47.575 --> 00:45:48.765
Thank you so much everybody

1003
00:45:48.765 --> 00:45:50.205
for coming 'cause I'm always here alone.

1004
00:45:50.655 --> 00:45:54.645
Maria Marana 31 64 low court.

1005
00:45:55.315 --> 00:45:58.485
Just wanna make sure you are doing the nuisance ordinance

1006
00:45:58.505 --> 00:45:59.725
for District 11 only.

1007
00:46:00.545 --> 00:46:01.805
That's correct. Okay.

1008
00:46:02.625 --> 00:46:06.005
The arc motion now is for the villages?

1009
00:46:06.745 --> 00:46:08.605
No, No. Oh, you're doing

1010
00:46:08.605 --> 00:46:10.045
that District 11 for District 11.

1011
00:46:10.785 --> 00:46:11.885
Yes. So then what happens?

1012
00:46:12.065 --> 00:46:15.205
Now, you are going to take this to every district

1013
00:46:15.265 --> 00:46:16.765
or no, you're just gonna leave it. Well,

1014
00:46:16.765 --> 00:46:18.405
Well we, we should, we should clarify something

1015
00:46:18.405 --> 00:46:21.365
and I don't know, but um, maybe we should clarify some

1016
00:46:21.365 --> 00:46:25.225
of the discussion I had with, uh, uh, earlier that we had

1017
00:46:25.225 --> 00:46:27.945
before about why don't we,

1018
00:46:27.945 --> 00:46:29.745
why don't we throw this other stuff on the table so

1019
00:46:29.745 --> 00:46:31.105
that everybody understands where this is going.

1020
00:46:31.725 --> 00:46:33.985
My other question is, when we started talking about this

1021
00:46:34.005 --> 00:46:36.545
in January, you brought up, you know,

1022
00:46:36.545 --> 00:46:38.545
30 days times 18 holidays.

1023
00:46:38.925 --> 00:46:41.305
Um, and we can't change that you said

1024
00:46:41.305 --> 00:46:42.305
That. No, no. We're

1025
00:46:42.305 --> 00:46:43.905
gonna talk about that right now. Okay.

1026
00:46:43.905 --> 00:46:44.905
That's what I'm trying to Understand.

1027
00:46:45.075 --> 00:46:46.025
We're we're gonna, that's what I

1028
00:46:46.025 --> 00:46:47.025
want to get clarified right now.

1029
00:46:47.115 --> 00:46:52.025
Thank you. Okay. Matt, you wanna, you wanna explain

1030
00:46:52.175 --> 00:46:53.225
what, where this is going

1031
00:46:53.285 --> 00:46:55.465
and how this is broader than the District 11?

1032
00:46:55.905 --> 00:46:57.345
'cause this is going broader than District

1033
00:46:57.345 --> 00:46:58.545
11 we're gonna talk about next.

1034
00:46:59.345 --> 00:47:01.625
Absolutely. So we're gonna be bringing this back to many

1035
00:47:01.625 --> 00:47:02.705
of the district boards in the form

1036
00:47:02.705 --> 00:47:03.945
of public hearings in the future.

1037
00:47:04.095 --> 00:47:07.505
When it comes to, um, these, these available topics,

1038
00:47:07.985 --> 00:47:09.625
seasonal displays is one of them.

1039
00:47:09.625 --> 00:47:11.425
Landscape lighting is gonna be another one.

1040
00:47:11.885 --> 00:47:14.585
So in order to do this, we're working with legal counsel

1041
00:47:14.805 --> 00:47:17.465
for various districts so that we're all on the same page.

1042
00:47:17.605 --> 00:47:20.745
And so we're gonna be presenting these rule changes at

1043
00:47:20.745 --> 00:47:23.905
hopefully your May meetings for a July adoption as far

1044
00:47:23.905 --> 00:47:27.065
as public hearings to amend the rules specific

1045
00:47:27.085 --> 00:47:28.825
to those two types of concerns.

1046
00:47:28.855 --> 00:47:31.605
Yeah. And, and to also add, when it comes

1047
00:47:31.705 --> 00:47:33.525
to the architectural review manual,

1048
00:47:34.505 --> 00:47:37.205
it cannot contradict your deed restrictions.

1049
00:47:37.205 --> 00:47:40.165
It can't be more restrictive than your deed restrictions go.

1050
00:47:40.185 --> 00:47:42.205
And your deed restrictions state

1051
00:47:42.205 --> 00:47:44.725
that exterior lighting much be attached to the home

1052
00:47:44.725 --> 00:47:45.925
and not cause a nuisance.

1053
00:47:46.185 --> 00:47:47.525
It doesn't go into types.

1054
00:47:48.065 --> 00:47:50.765
And in here, when we had amended your arc manuals a couple

1055
00:47:50.765 --> 00:47:54.685
years ago, we had inadvertently created an restriction

1056
00:47:54.685 --> 00:47:57.445
that is not supported by your deed restrictions.

1057
00:47:57.445 --> 00:47:59.285
Therefore, we have to take it out.

1058
00:47:59.585 --> 00:48:01.445
And we're hoping that the defining

1059
00:48:01.445 --> 00:48:02.925
what you can define a term

1060
00:48:03.725 --> 00:48:07.845
nuisance covers this now versus being restricted in the type

1061
00:48:07.845 --> 00:48:10.085
of lights we're now covering nuisance.

1062
00:48:10.105 --> 00:48:11.805
So we exactly. We're, we're trying

1063
00:48:11.805 --> 00:48:13.365
to clean up something that we erred on.

1064
00:48:13.365 --> 00:48:16.085
Yeah. And, and to put clarification on this thing,

1065
00:48:16.085 --> 00:48:17.245
because this is the thing

1066
00:48:17.245 --> 00:48:19.365
that the residents have been concerned about.

1067
00:48:19.365 --> 00:48:22.485
There's 365 days of holidays in the villages.

1068
00:48:23.385 --> 00:48:27.125
So what you're gonna be doing next is trying

1069
00:48:27.125 --> 00:48:31.085
to get this focused that you're only allowed X for St.

1070
00:48:31.085 --> 00:48:32.565
Patrick's Day X for this,

1071
00:48:33.145 --> 00:48:35.445
and it's gotta be broader than District 11.

1072
00:48:35.825 --> 00:48:38.565
And that's why we're in a little bit of a quagmire on this.

1073
00:48:38.585 --> 00:48:39.885
We can't expand it

1074
00:48:40.255 --> 00:48:43.125
until you get the legal counsel from all the other

1075
00:48:43.365 --> 00:48:44.405
districts to agree on it.

1076
00:48:44.425 --> 00:48:46.125
And then we can put this into District

1077
00:48:46.125 --> 00:48:47.125
11. Correct. 'cause

1078
00:48:47.125 --> 00:48:49.125
we're looking at, again, the, the language

1079
00:48:49.125 --> 00:48:50.485
that is in the deed restrictions

1080
00:48:50.485 --> 00:48:52.645
and making sure that we don't Correct. Inadvertently

1081
00:48:52.645 --> 00:48:53.645
Create Yeah. We don't want violate

1082
00:48:53.645 --> 00:48:56.485
the deed restrictions. Okay.

1083
00:48:56.995 --> 00:48:58.845
Does that, that makes sense everybody.

1084
00:49:00.155 --> 00:49:02.645
When I read the deed restrictions, I thought

1085
00:49:02.645 --> 00:49:05.725
that we were limited to seven holidays a year.

1086
00:49:06.305 --> 00:49:07.645
No, ma'am. There's nothing

1087
00:49:07.925 --> 00:49:09.005
restricting the number of holidays.

1088
00:49:09.005 --> 00:49:10.645
It just says seasonal displays not

1089
00:49:10.645 --> 00:49:13.445
to exceed 30 days in duration so you can decorate

1090
00:49:13.445 --> 00:49:15.205
for 30 days on a seasons display.

1091
00:49:15.465 --> 00:49:18.085
So we're working on the seasons aspect of what that means.

1092
00:49:18.505 --> 00:49:19.645
So we're trying to tighten it up.

1093
00:49:19.985 --> 00:49:21.765
It it, there, there was a hole in this thing

1094
00:49:21.765 --> 00:49:22.925
and it needed to get tightened up.

1095
00:49:23.025 --> 00:49:26.325
And we're the ones that are tripped over it than any, any

1096
00:49:26.325 --> 00:49:27.725
of the other districts at this point. Right.

1097
00:49:27.905 --> 00:49:30.885
As you pointed out what was intended 30 years ago is now

1098
00:49:30.985 --> 00:49:33.325
we, we've reached a point where things have just kind

1099
00:49:33.325 --> 00:49:35.285
of progressed and we're at that point in their history

1100
00:49:35.285 --> 00:49:37.205
where we need to tighten things up

1101
00:49:37.705 --> 00:49:39.525
to find things better. And that's what we're doing.

1102
00:49:40.085 --> 00:49:44.645
I know I read that there was seven holidays and St.

1103
00:49:44.645 --> 00:49:46.405
Patrick's Day was not one of them.

1104
00:49:47.145 --> 00:49:49.645
So you may be referring to the, um,

1105
00:49:49.645 --> 00:49:52.965
holiday decoration policy when it comes to entryways entry

1106
00:49:52.985 --> 00:49:55.605
and gate houses and Yes, I apologize.

1107
00:49:56.515 --> 00:49:59.805
Okay. So with this new nuisance law

1108
00:50:00.345 --> 00:50:01.345
Yes. Residents

1109
00:50:01.345 --> 00:50:02.645
can now complain Yes.

1110
00:50:02.895 --> 00:50:05.285
Issue a nuisance complaint about liquid lights

1111
00:50:06.065 --> 00:50:09.005
Or any whatever lights that not be liquid. Right.

1112
00:50:09.005 --> 00:50:10.285
Well, I'm just saying 'cause they're,

1113
00:50:10.555 --> 00:50:13.005
everybody seems concerned about liquid lights being removed,

1114
00:50:13.825 --> 00:50:15.925
but people can have liquid lights

1115
00:50:16.385 --> 00:50:18.845
and if they don't get a nuisance complaint against them,

1116
00:50:18.915 --> 00:50:20.125
they can keep 'em.

1117
00:50:20.435 --> 00:50:22.845
Correct. I mean, as long

1118
00:50:22.845 --> 00:50:25.525
as it's not a nuisance law on somebody else's house,

1119
00:50:25.525 --> 00:50:26.725
like say my neighbor's got it,

1120
00:50:26.985 --> 00:50:29.525
but they're not extremely, you know,

1121
00:50:29.525 --> 00:50:31.725
landing a plane on the driveway

1122
00:50:32.065 --> 00:50:33.605
and there's no nuisance complaint.

1123
00:50:33.755 --> 00:50:36.045
They can have 'em, but if they have a

1124
00:50:36.245 --> 00:50:37.325
complaint because they're,

1125
00:50:37.715 --> 00:50:38.565
It's a nuisance to the

1126
00:50:38.565 --> 00:50:40.085
neighborhood, they can bring it up now. They can.

1127
00:50:40.085 --> 00:50:41.525
Yeah. It doesn't matter if the liquid lights or

1128
00:50:41.725 --> 00:50:42.725
Landscaping doesn't matter. Lights or doesn't

1129
00:50:42.725 --> 00:50:43.245
matter,

1130
00:50:44.525 --> 00:50:45.525
Whatever. Right. So

1131
00:50:45.525 --> 00:50:46.965
they can issue a nuisance

1132
00:50:47.365 --> 00:50:48.565
complaint against this person.

1133
00:50:48.595 --> 00:50:51.005
Correct. Yeah. Correct. Okay.

1134
00:50:52.385 --> 00:50:53.605
We have a motion and

1135
00:50:53.875 --> 00:50:54.875
Yeah, we have a motion. And

1136
00:50:54.875 --> 00:50:55.665
we had a second.

1137
00:50:56.525 --> 00:50:58.125
I Seconded. Yeah. So, okay.

1138
00:50:58.425 --> 00:50:59.925
Um, I know Jim just stepped out,

1139
00:50:59.945 --> 00:51:03.005
but do we want to go ahead and vote on this right now?

1140
00:51:03.115 --> 00:51:05.155
Well, he started it.

1141
00:51:05.175 --> 00:51:07.995
He, he started it, so, yeah. Does it matter

1142
00:51:08.975 --> 00:51:09.975
Or do you need a full Board?

1143
00:51:10.015 --> 00:51:11.635
We can vote. We can vote. Okay.

1144
00:51:11.775 --> 00:51:14.835
So all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

1145
00:51:15.265 --> 00:51:17.075
None opposed. Thank you. Thank you. Board. Thank you.

1146
00:51:17.245 --> 00:51:18.435
Thank you. Thank Shannon.

1147
00:51:20.625 --> 00:51:23.275
Okay. Um, now, uh, move on

1148
00:51:23.275 --> 00:51:25.755
to old business, anything of the old business

1149
00:51:26.665 --> 00:51:29.035
That, that concludes all That concludes it too.

1150
00:51:29.825 --> 00:51:31.995
Okay. And we already did the, uh, uh,

1151
00:51:31.995 --> 00:51:33.195
architectural review manual.

1152
00:51:33.195 --> 00:51:34.075
We've already done that as

1153
00:51:34.075 --> 00:51:35.275
old business, so we've covered that.

1154
00:51:35.935 --> 00:51:37.475
So the next is informational item.

1155
00:51:37.655 --> 00:51:41.835
Any questions or anything on the financials? Okay.

1156
00:51:42.735 --> 00:51:43.955
Uh, district manager reports.

1157
00:51:45.255 --> 00:51:47.195
Yes. So I do have two reports today.

1158
00:51:47.375 --> 00:51:49.795
Um, and for the benefit of the audience as well,

1159
00:51:49.815 --> 00:51:51.235
we have two events coming up.

1160
00:51:51.735 --> 00:51:53.795
Uh, the first one is the Water Matters event.

1161
00:51:54.295 --> 00:51:57.675
Um, that will be held on Saturday, April 11th from nine

1162
00:51:57.775 --> 00:52:00.235
to noon at the Lake Sumter Landing Square.

1163
00:52:00.815 --> 00:52:03.555
Um, it's an expo style event that the district hosts.

1164
00:52:03.655 --> 00:52:07.355
Um, we will have US iis extension in attendance as well

1165
00:52:07.355 --> 00:52:09.835
as Jacobs, who is our utility o and m provider,

1166
00:52:10.375 --> 00:52:13.115
and our water engineer who is water,

1167
00:52:13.145 --> 00:52:15.635
they will all be in attendance with the raffle announcements

1168
00:52:15.695 --> 00:52:17.155
and prize drawings.

1169
00:52:17.215 --> 00:52:18.915
And there's, there's a lot

1170
00:52:18.915 --> 00:52:20.715
of good information that's provided there.

1171
00:52:20.825 --> 00:52:22.235
Okay. Um,

1172
00:52:22.335 --> 00:52:26.795
the second event is the Earth Day event.

1173
00:52:27.055 --> 00:52:31.555
Yes. So April 17th from eight 30 to 11:30 AM um,

1174
00:52:31.565 --> 00:52:34.595
staff is convening in the Lake Central Landing parking lot

1175
00:52:34.595 --> 00:52:35.955
across from Wilkerson Park.

1176
00:52:36.415 --> 00:52:39.795
Um, we will be out in the community, um, being good stewards

1177
00:52:39.815 --> 00:52:42.075
and cleaning up any trash that's out there.

1178
00:52:42.455 --> 00:52:44.115
Um, we understand time constraints

1179
00:52:44.135 --> 00:52:46.035
and board members may not be able to attend.

1180
00:52:46.215 --> 00:52:48.915
Um, so if you would like to participate in your own way

1181
00:52:48.915 --> 00:52:51.875
for Earth Day, uh, snap a selfie and send it to us.

1182
00:52:52.175 --> 00:52:54.715
Uh, we will include it in the bulletin as well

1183
00:52:54.715 --> 00:52:55.715
as the newsletter.

1184
00:52:55.985 --> 00:52:56.985
Okay.

1185
00:52:58.185 --> 00:52:59.755
Okay. Anything else? That concludes our

1186
00:52:59.755 --> 00:53:00.755
Report. Okay. District

1187
00:53:00.755 --> 00:53:01.715
Ion Counsel.

1188
00:53:02.215 --> 00:53:05.155
Yes, sir. We have the, uh, upcoming dates for the Ethics

1189
00:53:05.155 --> 00:53:06.275
and public records training.

1190
00:53:06.295 --> 00:53:08.395
And those are March 24 at 9:00 AM

1191
00:53:08.395 --> 00:53:09.995
and that's at Laurel Manor Rec Center.

1192
00:53:10.535 --> 00:53:11.755
If you're interested in attending,

1193
00:53:11.755 --> 00:53:13.155
you can sign up for the clerk's office.

1194
00:53:13.295 --> 00:53:16.795
The additional two dates, March 24 at 9:00 AM

1195
00:53:17.415 --> 00:53:18.755
August, 2026.

1196
00:53:18.825 --> 00:53:20.675
October 29th, 2026.

1197
00:53:21.135 --> 00:53:23.475
The one in August is at 9:00 AM at Everglades.

1198
00:53:23.575 --> 00:53:27.205
And the October 29 date is at the district office.

1199
00:53:27.385 --> 00:53:28.405
If you can't make one,

1200
00:53:28.405 --> 00:53:30.325
maybe you can make one of the others. Um, what

1201
00:53:30.345 --> 00:53:31.405
Was the August date again?

1202
00:53:31.505 --> 00:53:33.085
The August date is August 20,

1203
00:53:33.145 --> 00:53:35.365
and that will be at 9:00 AM at Everglades.

1204
00:53:35.365 --> 00:53:36.365
Everglades.

1205
00:53:38.455 --> 00:53:42.945
Okay. Anything else, mark? No, sir. That's it. Thanks.

1206
00:53:43.495 --> 00:53:47.625
Okay. Um, I'll cover my portion of the supervisory comments

1207
00:53:47.725 --> 00:53:48.785
and then we'll go around the room

1208
00:53:48.785 --> 00:53:49.985
and see if you, if you have any

1209
00:53:49.985 --> 00:53:51.745
other comments or anything like that.

1210
00:53:52.245 --> 00:53:55.505
Um, in the, the project wide committee meeting on Monday,

1211
00:53:56.125 --> 00:53:57.585
uh, a couple of things came up

1212
00:53:57.585 --> 00:53:59.265
and I'll just go over in the things pretty quickly.

1213
00:54:00.045 --> 00:54:03.065
Um, first of all, uh, we had some sad news

1214
00:54:03.085 --> 00:54:05.825
and I, I mentioned in the meeting, uh, I don't know if many

1215
00:54:05.825 --> 00:54:07.025
of you know, Steve Brown.

1216
00:54:07.085 --> 00:54:09.465
He was a, he was a district supervisor of,

1217
00:54:09.525 --> 00:54:11.065
of district 11 at nine.

1218
00:54:11.845 --> 00:54:14.585
And, uh, he also sat on our project wide committee.

1219
00:54:14.605 --> 00:54:16.425
He passed away, so it was very suddenly,

1220
00:54:17.445 --> 00:54:18.705
uh, a couple weeks ago.

1221
00:54:18.885 --> 00:54:22.345
So, uh, I just, um, it was, um, he, he was a great guy.

1222
00:54:22.345 --> 00:54:23.905
He is helped, helped the community a lot.

1223
00:54:24.085 --> 00:54:26.545
So, uh, the other thing is we had a,

1224
00:54:26.625 --> 00:54:28.305
a resident complain about, uh,

1225
00:54:28.485 --> 00:54:32.265
in Lake Miona Black Lake Walking Path, that there were dogs,

1226
00:54:32.265 --> 00:54:33.745
people were taking dogs on it.

1227
00:54:33.745 --> 00:54:35.145
They're not allowed to have to take dogs on it.

1228
00:54:35.725 --> 00:54:38.625
So, um, the district, um, uh,

1229
00:54:39.035 --> 00:54:40.945
recreation department's gonna look into that.

1230
00:54:41.205 --> 00:54:42.425
Uh, there is signage,

1231
00:54:42.425 --> 00:54:43.705
but they're gonna try to get more

1232
00:54:43.985 --> 00:54:45.065
reinforcement around that thing.

1233
00:54:45.085 --> 00:54:48.105
But there's, it's, it's always a tricky situation on that.

1234
00:54:48.205 --> 00:54:49.745
But they said they were gonna report,

1235
00:54:49.745 --> 00:54:52.505
they're gonna report back to the monthly meeting next month

1236
00:54:52.505 --> 00:54:54.545
to see what corrective actions being done on that one.

1237
00:54:55.685 --> 00:54:58.745
We also had an up update from Don Wiley, who's the chairman

1238
00:54:58.805 --> 00:55:00.705
of, um, the Sumter County Commission

1239
00:55:01.685 --> 00:55:03.425
on all the services they provide.

1240
00:55:04.165 --> 00:55:06.545
Um, and, uh, it's in conjunction

1241
00:55:06.565 --> 00:55:08.625
of Lake County too on the 9 1 1,

1242
00:55:08.725 --> 00:55:10.385
how they're wrapping everything together

1243
00:55:10.525 --> 00:55:12.345
and more of a cost effective.

1244
00:55:12.345 --> 00:55:14.385
But he showed a lot of different cost elements of

1245
00:55:14.385 --> 00:55:17.265
what this whole project was from, from, uh,

1246
00:55:17.295 --> 00:55:20.025
from Sumter Sumter County's perspective of

1247
00:55:20.025 --> 00:55:21.345
what they, they've put into it.

1248
00:55:21.365 --> 00:55:22.865
But it's just basically he wanted

1249
00:55:22.865 --> 00:55:25.865
to give everybody an update on how the 9 1 1, how the,

1250
00:55:26.125 --> 00:55:29.425
how the a ED program works with, with it.

1251
00:55:29.495 --> 00:55:31.985
It's in conjunction of that, that even though it's Sumter,

1252
00:55:32.605 --> 00:55:35.985
it TAs into Lake County and some aspects of that too.

1253
00:55:36.165 --> 00:55:38.105
So, so it does affect us to some degree.

1254
00:55:39.165 --> 00:55:43.425
Um, also, um, we had a couple of, um, items

1255
00:55:43.535 --> 00:55:44.545
that we approved.

1256
00:55:44.805 --> 00:55:47.745
We approved a sole source for the Suncoast furniture,

1257
00:55:48.325 --> 00:55:50.745
for all the pool full, uh, equipment.

1258
00:55:50.885 --> 00:55:53.265
And that was about $805,000 trying

1259
00:55:53.465 --> 00:55:54.505
to keep the standardization.

1260
00:55:54.525 --> 00:55:56.585
We, we went with a sole source company

1261
00:55:56.585 --> 00:55:57.785
that's been doing it before.

1262
00:55:58.125 --> 00:55:59.265
And, uh, that was approved.

1263
00:56:00.205 --> 00:56:02.265
Uh, then we also approved the, uh,

1264
00:56:02.925 --> 00:56:05.945
the H-H-V-A-C replacement at Coconut Grove,

1265
00:56:06.485 --> 00:56:08.185
and that's about $300,000.

1266
00:56:08.325 --> 00:56:12.065
That's about 200,000 under budget from, from

1267
00:56:12.065 --> 00:56:15.265
what we had in the budget for that to, to replace the HVAC,

1268
00:56:16.405 --> 00:56:18.505
uh, the three golf courses.

1269
00:56:19.005 --> 00:56:21.865
Um, there was a, uh, additional cost on the,

1270
00:56:21.965 --> 00:56:23.805
in the three golf courses, the Turtle Mound,

1271
00:56:23.925 --> 00:56:25.765
r Roosevelt, and Redfish.

1272
00:56:26.385 --> 00:56:27.805
Um, on the average,

1273
00:56:27.915 --> 00:56:30.685
it's about 1.7 million each to refurbish.

1274
00:56:30.685 --> 00:56:32.405
But when they got into it, they,

1275
00:56:32.465 --> 00:56:34.445
the reason why it cost more is

1276
00:56:34.445 --> 00:56:37.205
because what they did originally, a lot

1277
00:56:37.205 --> 00:56:38.605
of the greens were shrinking

1278
00:56:38.905 --> 00:56:42.005
and those weren't factored in, in the design.

1279
00:56:42.185 --> 00:56:43.245
So they're going back

1280
00:56:43.245 --> 00:56:45.685
and since they're gonna remodel it, might as well do it.

1281
00:56:45.685 --> 00:56:48.965
Right. And for longer term longevity of that.

1282
00:56:49.065 --> 00:56:50.765
So, so those three golf courses,

1283
00:56:51.145 --> 00:56:52.805
we had approved those budgets for that.

1284
00:56:54.225 --> 00:56:57.205
Uh, let's see, the, the last thing that came up here, um,

1285
00:56:58.875 --> 00:57:00.005
well, those last two things.

1286
00:57:00.625 --> 00:57:02.325
The other one was, was the, um,

1287
00:57:02.905 --> 00:57:04.845
at the post office we have the amenity boxes

1288
00:57:04.935 --> 00:57:08.565
where people will put in their, um, their amenity bills.

1289
00:57:09.145 --> 00:57:11.365
And what happened was, uh, they found that

1290
00:57:12.045 --> 00:57:13.885
somebody had broken into it and stole some of the checks.

1291
00:57:14.025 --> 00:57:18.565
Oh. So the question came to the board is, do we really want

1292
00:57:18.565 --> 00:57:20.525
to have people drop it in that box?

1293
00:57:21.105 --> 00:57:23.485
You can use the postal box, you can, there's like five

1294
00:57:23.485 --> 00:57:25.045
or six different ways you can do it.

1295
00:57:25.065 --> 00:57:28.165
You can do automatic, there's different ways electronically,

1296
00:57:28.185 --> 00:57:29.725
you can get your amenity fees paid.

1297
00:57:30.505 --> 00:57:32.445
So we approve that, that movement,

1298
00:57:32.445 --> 00:57:35.285
that we would eliminate the amenity box at

1299
00:57:35.345 --> 00:57:36.405
the postal station.

1300
00:57:36.665 --> 00:57:39.445
So I just want everybody to know we wanna phase it in.

1301
00:57:39.545 --> 00:57:42.325
So some people are using it maybe through April

1302
00:57:42.665 --> 00:57:46.125
or October by, by October, uh, to phase it in so that,

1303
00:57:46.125 --> 00:57:47.525
that will be removed by October.

1304
00:57:47.705 --> 00:57:50.725
So it's, it's, it's more of a security issue anymore.

1305
00:57:51.155 --> 00:57:54.125
They did apprehend the person that stole the checks, so

1306
00:57:54.125 --> 00:57:57.605
that was good news, but it does leave an exposure to that.

1307
00:57:57.665 --> 00:58:00.525
So it was, it was, it felt, it was, uh, it was,

1308
00:58:00.545 --> 00:58:01.645
it was a corrective thing to do.

1309
00:58:01.645 --> 00:58:03.685
And that was a recommendation by the rec department too.

1310
00:58:03.785 --> 00:58:06.485
So, and then the last thing was, um,

1311
00:58:08.035 --> 00:58:11.005
there's a stretch on the, on the intermodal, uh,

1312
00:58:11.005 --> 00:58:13.845
roadway near the fire station on Buena Vista

1313
00:58:14.145 --> 00:58:16.125
as you go down across from Eisenhower.

1314
00:58:16.945 --> 00:58:21.845
And, uh, and they wanted to put in, um, the RPMs in

1315
00:58:21.845 --> 00:58:23.765
that area that's real dark around the corner.

1316
00:58:24.665 --> 00:58:26.605
We tend, we as the board,

1317
00:58:26.665 --> 00:58:29.485
we said we weren't gonna put RPMs across the villages.

1318
00:58:29.985 --> 00:58:31.845
Um, because, and the basis,

1319
00:58:31.985 --> 00:58:33.765
and a lot of residents probably don't know this,

1320
00:58:33.825 --> 00:58:36.445
but the Kimberly Horne report came out

1321
00:58:36.505 --> 00:58:38.925
and they basically said it was not appropriate for us

1322
00:58:38.925 --> 00:58:41.125
to do it because of safety reasons and so forth.

1323
00:58:41.125 --> 00:58:43.605
You have bikers and other things just carte blanche it.

1324
00:58:44.145 --> 00:58:47.365
But what we, what we've done is put these reflectors in key

1325
00:58:47.365 --> 00:58:50.405
areas where like you come up to, um, our island

1326
00:58:50.825 --> 00:58:53.645
or if there's a curve so that you can see that.

1327
00:58:53.945 --> 00:58:55.965
And then this one fell into that category.

1328
00:58:56.065 --> 00:58:57.325
So we approved to go ahead

1329
00:58:57.325 --> 00:58:59.605
and do that small stretch right in that corner.

1330
00:58:59.665 --> 00:59:02.325
But it's not parked blanc that we're doing it all up the,

1331
00:59:02.785 --> 00:59:04.125
uh, multi road motor path.

1332
00:59:04.225 --> 00:59:06.045
So, so that's the other thing that came out

1333
00:59:06.045 --> 00:59:07.565
of the project Quad committee meeting.

1334
00:59:09.675 --> 00:59:13.605
Okay. Anything else? Any, any, you have two things. I got a

1335
00:59:13.765 --> 00:59:14.765
Question. Um,

1336
00:59:14.765 --> 00:59:17.485
Brittany, I'm wondering, you know, the police

1337
00:59:18.145 --> 00:59:21.485
police department gave a report last, uh, last month.

1338
00:59:21.635 --> 00:59:23.605
Yeah. They do a quarterly report trust last time

1339
00:59:23.605 --> 00:59:28.085
We were here, and it includes, our district includes,

1340
00:59:28.505 --> 00:59:33.205
uh, all of Brooklyn Park, evidently and 4 66 A and,

1341
00:59:33.625 --> 00:59:35.725
and, and the, the numbers that we were getting,

1342
00:59:36.115 --> 00:59:37.845
They were, they were Fruitland Park numbers

1343
00:59:37.865 --> 00:59:40.005
too. They were skiing point

1344
00:59:40.005 --> 00:59:41.605
Where it didn't make any sense.

1345
00:59:41.745 --> 00:59:44.045
It would be like getting a report for Leesburg.

1346
00:59:44.625 --> 00:59:48.405
Uh, so I'm wondering if Chief Wolf could work with the,

1347
00:59:48.635 --> 00:59:52.005
with the Fruitland Park Police Department

1348
00:59:52.065 --> 00:59:56.935
and redistrict our Pine Hills Pine Ridge

1349
00:59:57.235 --> 00:59:59.255
so that when we get that report,

1350
00:59:59.635 --> 01:00:01.975
we know what's going on in, in Pine Hills.

1351
01:00:02.045 --> 01:00:04.615
Pine Ridge and, and not what's going on in

1352
01:00:04.675 --> 01:00:06.055
Colony or, or wherever.

1353
01:00:06.435 --> 01:00:10.055
So I'm just, I'm, I I just would like to have that. Mm-hmm.

1354
01:00:10.255 --> 01:00:11.295
I, I like the information.

1355
01:00:11.575 --> 01:00:13.815
I would just like to have our information

1356
01:00:13.995 --> 01:00:15.775
and not what's going on next

1357
01:00:15.775 --> 01:00:16.775
Week. Yes. I'll

1358
01:00:16.775 --> 01:00:17.775
have Chief Wolf work

1359
01:00:17.775 --> 01:00:20.495
with the Fruitland Park Police Department to, uh,

1360
01:00:20.675 --> 01:00:22.015
refine those statistics

1361
01:00:22.015 --> 01:00:25.175
and really narrow down into the District 11 area with

1362
01:00:25.225 --> 01:00:26.225
Peter. That was the first

1363
01:00:26.225 --> 01:00:27.095
time that's happened.

1364
01:00:27.395 --> 01:00:30.295
The other times he was, it was very focused on the villages,

1365
01:00:30.295 --> 01:00:33.895
pine Hills, pine Ridge, that one, when he came out, he,

1366
01:00:33.925 --> 01:00:35.855
when he gave those numbers, I knew those were wrong

1367
01:00:35.855 --> 01:00:38.215
because they, they were talking about things were happening

1368
01:00:38.215 --> 01:00:40.735
up in Fruitland Park and up in 4 41.

1369
01:00:41.495 --> 01:00:43.255
I mean that, that, that, that has no

1370
01:00:43.375 --> 01:00:44.735
bearing on what we were looking at. So,

1371
01:00:45.315 --> 01:00:47.455
And, and the second good point question I have, you know,

1372
01:00:47.455 --> 01:00:49.935
we've got, we've had, uh, five freezes this winter.

1373
01:00:50.475 --> 01:00:54.375
And I'm wondering what percentage of our plants

1374
01:00:54.525 --> 01:00:58.215
that we have are responsible for our native plants

1375
01:00:58.885 --> 01:01:01.335
that can withstand that cross.

1376
01:01:02.035 --> 01:01:03.535
Uh, and wonder whether

1377
01:01:03.675 --> 01:01:07.295
or not when we get ready to replace ones

1378
01:01:07.295 --> 01:01:12.015
that have been killed, if it wouldn't be wise to think about

1379
01:01:12.935 --> 01:01:16.775
a native plant replacement for a couple reasons.

1380
01:01:16.915 --> 01:01:19.455
One is they're not gonna get destroyed at freeze five times

1381
01:01:19.455 --> 01:01:20.895
during the winter, and the other

1382
01:01:20.895 --> 01:01:22.095
is they use much less water.

1383
01:01:22.675 --> 01:01:25.935
Uh, so, so maybe, you know, we're in a drug situation.

1384
01:01:25.935 --> 01:01:28.295
Mm-hmm. So let's, and by frost.

1385
01:01:28.395 --> 01:01:30.855
So let's just think about that on the way

1386
01:01:30.855 --> 01:01:32.495
through, uh, down the road.

1387
01:01:33.595 --> 01:01:34.855
It may save us some money.

1388
01:01:36.245 --> 01:01:38.415
Sure. So district property management is going through

1389
01:01:38.415 --> 01:01:42.055
that assessment es essentially now to determine, um,

1390
01:01:42.355 --> 01:01:43.815
you know, what has survived.

1391
01:01:43.955 --> 01:01:48.095
And then directing any plant replacement costs towards the

1392
01:01:48.095 --> 01:01:50.015
replacement from the freeze.

1393
01:01:50.245 --> 01:01:54.015
Generally they, they stick to original design intent from,

1394
01:01:54.435 --> 01:01:57.055
you know, what was planted within the community.

1395
01:01:57.515 --> 01:02:01.375
Um, but if we can let them proceed with their evaluation

1396
01:02:01.395 --> 01:02:03.215
and then determine if there is any room

1397
01:02:03.235 --> 01:02:04.695
for adjustment in those areas.

1398
01:02:05.315 --> 01:02:07.975
But I think that maybe the question should be asked

1399
01:02:08.075 --> 01:02:11.575
of whether or not design could accept

1400
01:02:12.095 --> 01:02:16.135
a native species as opposed to something

1401
01:02:16.135 --> 01:02:18.295
that is not. Just

1402
01:02:18.835 --> 01:02:19.835
We can review that.

1403
01:02:21.005 --> 01:02:22.165
I know Herschel heard that.

1404
01:02:26.585 --> 01:02:28.365
Jim, is there anything else, Peter?

1405
01:02:28.385 --> 01:02:30.245
No, I'm all thank Jim. Well

1406
01:02:30.245 --> 01:02:31.245
Said Peter.

1407
01:02:31.345 --> 01:02:32.965
Uh, thank you to our neighbors for, uh,

1408
01:02:32.965 --> 01:02:34.285
coming and speaking your mind.

1409
01:02:34.985 --> 01:02:39.405
Um, and I hope you can see that this board empathizes

1410
01:02:39.835 --> 01:02:43.045
with, uh, each of you, um, Mr.

1411
01:02:43.285 --> 01:02:45.365
Chairman, let the record show that

1412
01:02:46.005 --> 01:02:49.445
I would vote on the motion that I made to modify

1413
01:02:50.795 --> 01:02:51.795
Your Call. Your colleague

1414
01:02:51.795 --> 01:02:52.965
over here already. Yeah.

1415
01:02:53.045 --> 01:02:55.525
I know it passed, but I want the record to show

1416
01:02:56.075 --> 01:02:59.085
that I voted yes on that.

1417
01:02:59.785 --> 01:03:01.485
So that's it. Thank you. Thank you.

1418
01:03:02.785 --> 01:03:05.885
I'm good. Well, here I am.

1419
01:03:06.575 --> 01:03:07.805
Thank you all for coming

1420
01:03:08.225 --> 01:03:11.245
and as you all know, if you have any problems,

1421
01:03:12.065 --> 01:03:16.445
I'm always available to of hear it out.

1422
01:03:18.205 --> 01:03:21.845
I have, I have gotten a complaint about the striping

1423
01:03:22.505 --> 01:03:27.045
on the roads in, in Pine Hills and Pine Ridge.

1424
01:03:28.105 --> 01:03:30.725
And I know it's Fruitland Parks are no

1425
01:03:31.715 --> 01:03:34.325
Lake County responsibilities. The

1426
01:03:34.325 --> 01:03:36.045
Road, I'm sorry, the one striking

1427
01:03:36.135 --> 01:03:38.365
Strip on the road, you know, where you come to a stop.

1428
01:03:38.435 --> 01:03:39.565
Yeah. You're supposed to have the wife.

1429
01:03:39.675 --> 01:03:41.885
There's no striking, they're all, they're gone.

1430
01:03:42.195 --> 01:03:43.965
They, they're all gone. Yeah. Warren, yes.

1431
01:03:44.385 --> 01:03:46.325
You know his responsibility, you know, it's for one park.

1432
01:03:46.505 --> 01:03:47.605
It, they Have the road

1433
01:03:47.985 --> 01:03:51.805
And so can I make that call?

1434
01:03:51.945 --> 01:03:56.205
Or I I can communicate to their, uh, city manager on behalf

1435
01:03:56.205 --> 01:03:57.285
of the District 11 board.

1436
01:03:57.555 --> 01:03:58.845
Yeah, that would be, that'd be more. It

1437
01:03:58.965 --> 01:04:00.845
Probably hasn't been done since we were developed.

1438
01:04:01.355 --> 01:04:04.725
Well, yeah, because that's, yeah. And they've never been,

1439
01:04:05.025 --> 01:04:08.685
And Brittany, just, just to extend that, I don't know who,

1440
01:04:08.745 --> 01:04:12.885
who runs the road between, uh, between uh,

1441
01:04:13.455 --> 01:04:17.765
Moyer and 4 66 A by the Walmart neighborhood, Marco.

1442
01:04:17.905 --> 01:04:19.845
But those are non-existent.

1443
01:04:19.865 --> 01:04:24.285
That's Sumter County. Sumter County Sum Sumter. Yeah.

1444
01:04:24.285 --> 01:04:26.325
Just where the dump is. That's all Sumter County.

1445
01:04:26.435 --> 01:04:27.805
That dump is Sumter County.

1446
01:04:27.905 --> 01:04:28.845
Go around the corner and you

1447
01:04:28.885 --> 01:04:29.805
go around the corner around the course.

1448
01:04:29.855 --> 01:04:31.725
There, there are no fines there. So

1449
01:04:31.725 --> 01:04:32.725
It's, yeah.

1450
01:04:34.385 --> 01:04:36.125
Hey Jan, when you speak

1451
01:04:36.125 --> 01:04:37.725
to Fruitland Park about the stripes,

1452
01:04:37.945 --> 01:04:39.325
if they give you any hard time,

1453
01:04:39.675 --> 01:04:41.205
tell 'em we can take all these people,

1454
01:04:43.135 --> 01:04:44.165
we'll all meet at City Hall.

1455
01:04:46.105 --> 01:04:47.205
But you're gonna, you're gonna follow

1456
01:04:47.365 --> 01:04:48.445
up on that. Yeah. Okay.

1457
01:04:49.345 --> 01:04:50.725
Do you want us off and come with you?

1458
01:04:52.105 --> 01:04:54.725
Any anything else, Jan, you have No. Okay. Alright.

1459
01:04:54.905 --> 01:04:56.805
Do we have a motion to adjourn? Motion

1460
01:04:56.805 --> 01:04:57.685
To adjourn? What?

1461
01:04:57.905 --> 01:05:01.325
Go ahead. I, a question. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm to this.

1462
01:05:01.675 --> 01:05:02.765
Okay. I'm slow.

1463
01:05:03.165 --> 01:05:07.125
Whatever. Tell me what, starting today,

1464
01:05:07.455 --> 01:05:10.165
going forward, Matt, Shannon, whoever

1465
01:05:11.155 --> 01:05:14.085
with 32 68 Webster Drive,

1466
01:05:14.225 --> 01:05:17.645
are we waiting on seasonal stuff or all these other boards?

1467
01:05:17.645 --> 01:05:20.085
You gotta vote or are you gonna take some action

1468
01:05:20.785 --> 01:05:22.285
now? That's what I want

1469
01:05:22.285 --> 01:05:23.285
To know. Thank you.

1470
01:05:23.285 --> 01:05:25.285
Well, you want, you wanna comment?

1471
01:05:27.465 --> 01:05:30.245
So the process still remains a complaint driven process.

1472
01:05:31.065 --> 01:05:35.365
Um, so if, if there are ongoing concerns, I would suggest

1473
01:05:35.445 --> 01:05:39.245
that the complaints be filed to community standards, um, so

1474
01:05:39.245 --> 01:05:42.045
that they can assess using this new criteria.

1475
01:05:42.515 --> 01:05:43.925
It's an effective today. Today

1476
01:05:43.955 --> 01:05:44.955
It's effective. Today it's

1477
01:05:44.955 --> 01:05:46.765
effective. Right now we have 30

1478
01:05:46.765 --> 01:05:49.405
People that are willing to do it right now. Can we put

1479
01:05:49.405 --> 01:05:50.405
Our name? Go ahead. Right here.

1480
01:05:50.405 --> 01:05:51.885
Go ahead. Right there. Okay.

1481
01:05:52.795 --> 01:05:54.805
With Shannon or Matthew. Okay.

1482
01:05:54.835 --> 01:05:57.365
Wait, do we have a mo Is there anything

1483
01:05:57.365 --> 01:05:59.125
else before we adjourn? Go ahead. One

1484
01:05:59.125 --> 01:06:00.125
Quick question.

1485
01:06:04.945 --> 01:06:08.325
My name is Stephanie Cohen, 1 0 9 6 Lane Terrace.

1486
01:06:08.325 --> 01:06:10.565
We address lighting, but there's stickers

1487
01:06:10.665 --> 01:06:11.765
and I know all that.

1488
01:06:11.865 --> 01:06:13.445
Yes. How is that being addressed?

1489
01:06:13.465 --> 01:06:15.205
That's a nuisance. That's Oh,

1490
01:06:15.345 --> 01:06:16.805
we were all sitting back here saying

1491
01:06:17.235 --> 01:06:18.245
what about the rest of it?

1492
01:06:18.445 --> 01:06:21.525
'cause it was all lighting detailed in the discussion, but

1493
01:06:22.005 --> 01:06:23.005
Stickers, yeah. There's

1494
01:06:23.005 --> 01:06:25.285
other, other issues there. Matt.

1495
01:06:25.605 --> 01:06:27.005
Nuisance, you want to talk about that before we leave?

1496
01:06:30.035 --> 01:06:32.085
Because she has a good point because of those,

1497
01:06:33.785 --> 01:06:36.765
The garage, Those stickers are a part

1498
01:06:36.765 --> 01:06:38.085
of the seasonal display discussion.

1499
01:06:38.085 --> 01:06:39.965
Say that again? I'm sorry. The, the stickers are gonna be a

1500
01:06:39.965 --> 01:06:41.445
part of the seasonal display discussion.

1501
01:06:41.445 --> 01:06:42.965
It has nothing to do with the nuisance lighting.

1502
01:06:44.545 --> 01:06:47.165
Now what about those, those arches and stuff

1503
01:06:47.165 --> 01:06:48.165
Like that? The inflatables

1504
01:06:48.165 --> 01:06:49.605
would be a part of your seasonal display.

1505
01:06:49.865 --> 01:06:52.805
Now, if the seasonal displays are cascading bright lights

1506
01:06:52.805 --> 01:06:54.485
into neighboring properties, then we can address that

1507
01:06:54.505 --> 01:06:55.685
as a nuisance lighting issue.

1508
01:06:55.985 --> 01:06:57.965
But again, that'd be a seasonal display discussion

1509
01:06:57.965 --> 01:06:59.965
that we'll have to try and define terms and

1510
01:06:59.995 --> 01:07:00.995
That. But, but if they have

1511
01:07:00.995 --> 01:07:02.685
a complaint on, on the fact

1512
01:07:02.685 --> 01:07:05.205
that they have all these wires

1513
01:07:05.205 --> 01:07:07.365
and stuff like that sticking around the posts

1514
01:07:07.365 --> 01:07:09.925
and everything like that, that's still a complaint.

1515
01:07:10.385 --> 01:07:14.405
So those are planters that are on all of those hooks.

1516
01:07:14.585 --> 01:07:17.605
So he's has planted flower pots

1517
01:07:17.715 --> 01:07:19.125
that are aligned to every single one of those.

1518
01:07:19.145 --> 01:07:21.525
We take a look, but off the top of my head I'm gonna say

1519
01:07:21.525 --> 01:07:22.805
that's probably not gonna be a violation.

1520
01:07:22.885 --> 01:07:25.765
'cause those are all planters. But again, I would,

1521
01:07:25.965 --> 01:07:28.125
I would take a look once the complaint is received

1522
01:07:28.185 --> 01:07:29.725
and we would review the deed restrictions

1523
01:07:29.745 --> 01:07:31.645
and we will address the situations on case

1524
01:07:31.665 --> 01:07:32.765
by case as we always do.

1525
01:07:32.905 --> 01:07:34.965
So they should, they should file the complaint based on

1526
01:07:34.965 --> 01:07:35.965
That. They should file the complain for the things

1527
01:07:35.965 --> 01:07:36.005

1528
01:07:36.005 --> 01:07:36.685
that they do see.

1529
01:07:36.865 --> 01:07:39.645
And we can only address the things that are reported to us.

1530
01:07:39.665 --> 01:07:41.805
So if there are items on there that have not been reported

1531
01:07:41.825 --> 01:07:44.965
before, they need to bring those up independently of,

1532
01:07:45.105 --> 01:07:46.685
not just as a collective, it's a mess

1533
01:07:46.875 --> 01:07:48.685
that doesn't give us any parameters to work with.

1534
01:07:48.785 --> 01:07:50.805
So you specific Has to be very

1535
01:07:51.005 --> 01:07:52.005
Specific. Okay.

1536
01:07:52.005 --> 01:07:55.165
Okay. Okay. Thank you. Mm-hmm.

1537
01:07:55.585 --> 01:07:58.125
Can I ask Matt A question? Yeah. Wait a minute. So,

1538
01:07:58.305 --> 01:08:01.565
So would you give us a, uh, a time frame

1539
01:08:02.025 --> 01:08:06.405
of when the other seasonal things, what,

1540
01:08:06.435 --> 01:08:08.405
when could we expect to see that progression?

1541
01:08:09.025 --> 01:08:10.405
So that would be where we bring it

1542
01:08:10.405 --> 01:08:13.205
before the board in May for a rule amendment request.

1543
01:08:13.265 --> 01:08:16.805
And then that would be the, uh, process where you have

1544
01:08:16.805 --> 01:08:18.405
to step, you have to by law,

1545
01:08:18.925 --> 01:08:21.445
publicly notice the public hearing, which is 45 days,

1546
01:08:21.445 --> 01:08:23.325
which would bring you to your July board meeting.

1547
01:08:24.875 --> 01:08:27.365
Okay. But that's Progress. That is progress, yes.

1548
01:08:27.375 --> 01:08:28.375
Thank you.

1549
01:08:29.275 --> 01:08:32.085
Okay. Yes ma'am.

1550
01:08:34.335 --> 01:08:36.645
Julia, Jack. 3, 2, 8, 4 Webster Way.

1551
01:08:36.955 --> 01:08:38.845
Okay, now I'm totally confused.

1552
01:08:40.365 --> 01:08:43.205
Nuisance to me is, nuisance is,

1553
01:08:43.205 --> 01:08:45.245
the word is there's all this junk on the

1554
01:08:45.245 --> 01:08:46.565
lawn. You have copy. I'm sorry

1555
01:08:46.565 --> 01:08:47.565
Ma'am. I can't, you have to talk in

1556
01:08:47.565 --> 01:08:48.285
the microphone please.

1557
01:08:48.465 --> 01:08:51.725
He probably hasn't seen it. It is junk on the lawn.

1558
01:08:51.905 --> 01:08:56.085
It is wires on the lawn. It is these hanging things. 5,000.

1559
01:08:56.235 --> 01:08:58.605
There's like seven or eight um, flags

1560
01:08:59.225 --> 01:09:00.965
and every day seems to put another one up.

1561
01:09:01.435 --> 01:09:03.725
This is just unbelievable

1562
01:09:03.955 --> 01:09:05.485
that we're sitting here all this time.

1563
01:09:05.825 --> 01:09:07.125
The third time you're having a meeting

1564
01:09:07.705 --> 01:09:10.245
and what's being done, this is like,

1565
01:09:10.435 --> 01:09:12.685
it's like passing the bus, the bus, the bus, the buck.

1566
01:09:12.685 --> 01:09:15.045
And where's the buck going? Is it going to end on us?

1567
01:09:15.275 --> 01:09:17.565
Because if the next step is, what do we have to do,

1568
01:09:17.625 --> 01:09:20.845
get channel the local news to come in and come

1569
01:09:20.845 --> 01:09:23.165
and put it on TV and the villages can all see it.

1570
01:09:23.315 --> 01:09:24.925
Because that's what it's getting to us.

1571
01:09:25.585 --> 01:09:27.645
I'm from New York and I gonna tell you,

1572
01:09:28.155 --> 01:09:29.685
this would not happen up there.

1573
01:09:29.865 --> 01:09:33.325
It would get resolved. This is really not showing the

1574
01:09:33.325 --> 01:09:34.325
villages in a good way.

1575
01:09:34.945 --> 01:09:36.805
I'm sorry to say that. I love being here.

1576
01:09:37.245 --> 01:09:38.725
I wanna be here all the time.

1577
01:09:39.225 --> 01:09:42.325
But this is really putting a very bad taste in my mouth.

1578
01:09:42.915 --> 01:09:44.845
Something has to be resolved.

1579
01:09:45.345 --> 01:09:48.805
Not in 30 days, not in two now.

1580
01:09:51.195 --> 01:09:52.325
Alright, you wanna talk

1581
01:09:55.915 --> 01:09:57.165
Regarding the flags?

1582
01:09:57.345 --> 01:09:58.725
He received architectural approval

1583
01:09:58.785 --> 01:10:00.685
for the standard flagpole that he has in his yard.

1584
01:10:00.945 --> 01:10:03.405
He has the flag full on his house, which are permitted.

1585
01:10:03.785 --> 01:10:06.005
And per Florida statute seven 20 are allowed

1586
01:10:06.165 --> 01:10:08.085
to have one portable flagpole not

1587
01:10:08.085 --> 01:10:10.885
to exceed 20 feet in height that displays the American flag.

1588
01:10:11.375 --> 01:10:13.885
First responders flag service members flag

1589
01:10:13.885 --> 01:10:15.365
or the state of Florida flag, which it does.

1590
01:10:15.705 --> 01:10:17.125
So the flags are not a violation.

1591
01:10:17.235 --> 01:10:19.605
He's in compliance in regards to anything else

1592
01:10:19.605 --> 01:10:21.925
that the individuals in the community have.

1593
01:10:21.925 --> 01:10:23.685
They are more than welcome to file complaints

1594
01:10:23.685 --> 01:10:25.245
and we will review them independently

1595
01:10:25.385 --> 01:10:26.725
and see if a violation exists.

1596
01:10:27.105 --> 01:10:28.765
And I have personally been out to the house,

1597
01:10:28.785 --> 01:10:30.165
walked the property with Dennis.

1598
01:10:30.725 --> 01:10:32.605
I have a good working relationship with Dennis.

1599
01:10:33.025 --> 01:10:35.325
He was willing to remove over 50% of the lights

1600
01:10:35.335 --> 01:10:37.685
after my first visit with him to try

1601
01:10:37.685 --> 01:10:38.845
to resolve this situation.

1602
01:10:39.135 --> 01:10:41.565
There are some other factors that district admin,

1603
01:10:41.565 --> 01:10:43.525
legal counsel are aware of that we do

1604
01:10:43.625 --> 01:10:46.365
and chairman are aware of, that we need to navigate

1605
01:10:46.555 --> 01:10:49.085
regarding these particular situations on this property.

1606
01:10:49.985 --> 01:10:52.825
I do understand the nuances of, of, um, working with him

1607
01:10:53.005 --> 01:10:56.025
and how to communicate with him just as other people

1608
01:10:56.085 --> 01:10:58.465
who have taken a different approach have communicated

1609
01:10:58.465 --> 01:11:01.865
with him, which has seemed to have had positive results.

1610
01:11:04.885 --> 01:11:06.785
So some of the things that were mentioned in this meeting,

1611
01:11:07.335 --> 01:11:08.465
they could bring that up to you.

1612
01:11:08.745 --> 01:11:10.305
'cause I just heard that. And you'll go out there

1613
01:11:10.365 --> 01:11:11.545
now and then take a look at those.

1614
01:11:12.005 --> 01:11:13.245
Now that we have the nuisance law,

1615
01:11:13.475 --> 01:11:14.685
They can apply now that we have the

1616
01:11:14.805 --> 01:11:15.845
nuisance sliding. And to be

1617
01:11:16.125 --> 01:11:17.565
Specific Correct?

1618
01:11:18.085 --> 01:11:19.325
I i I need to know exactly

1619
01:11:19.755 --> 01:11:21.365
what is the nuisance, what is it doing?

1620
01:11:21.385 --> 01:11:24.085
And not just because they're on, that's people have,

1621
01:11:24.725 --> 01:11:26.965
I was on the street, there was a house that has palm trees

1622
01:11:26.965 --> 01:11:28.125
that are wrapped in green lights.

1623
01:11:28.495 --> 01:11:31.485
There is a house that is across two blocks over

1624
01:11:31.605 --> 01:11:32.765
that when I drove through the night,

1625
01:11:33.085 --> 01:11:35.965
'cause I do go out at night with, with driving around

1626
01:11:35.965 --> 01:11:37.765
to take a look at the situation at hand.

1627
01:11:37.915 --> 01:11:40.485
There's a house, two houses side by side both lit up green.

1628
01:11:40.505 --> 01:11:42.245
One of 'em lit their palm tree up red.

1629
01:11:42.515 --> 01:11:44.325
There's another one that has red, white,

1630
01:11:44.325 --> 01:11:46.685
and blue strobing lights that go on their landscaping wall.

1631
01:11:46.685 --> 01:11:49.125
People have lights all across making different motions,

1632
01:11:49.125 --> 01:11:51.245
different colors, different themes, doing different things.

1633
01:11:51.905 --> 01:11:53.845
His, he has a lot, I'm not gonna lie to that.

1634
01:11:54.265 --> 01:11:55.845
But there are things that we are working through

1635
01:11:55.845 --> 01:11:57.645
with Dennis on this particular situation.

1636
01:11:58.985 --> 01:12:00.765
And if there are complaints, I will take them

1637
01:12:00.765 --> 01:12:02.245
and I will review them as I've done

1638
01:12:02.245 --> 01:12:03.645
with anything else that we've ever received.

1639
01:12:04.555 --> 01:12:04.845
Okay.

1640
01:12:10.265 --> 01:12:14.125
Hi, Noel Hansen, 32 76 Webster Way. Couple of things.

1641
01:12:14.615 --> 01:12:17.805
There are two portable flags, flag holes in his yard.

1642
01:12:18.065 --> 01:12:22.445
Not one. Uh, in addition to that, you did go out, we sat

1643
01:12:22.445 --> 01:12:25.525
and watched you talk to him, asked him to move lights back.

1644
01:12:25.935 --> 01:12:29.645
There were 75 lights along his driveway on both sides.

1645
01:12:30.745 --> 01:12:32.405
He didn't take half of 'em down.

1646
01:12:32.705 --> 01:12:35.765
He just moved them closer together. They're still there.

1647
01:12:38.315 --> 01:12:40.765
This is a problem. Mm-hmm. And it's not going away.

1648
01:12:41.445 --> 01:12:43.325
I really don't understand what's happening here.

1649
01:12:43.955 --> 01:12:48.325
Nothing. If I may,

1650
01:12:48.625 --> 01:12:52.685
if I may, if I may be sure your complaints are specific,

1651
01:12:53.655 --> 01:12:54.885
describing it like that.

1652
01:12:55.345 --> 01:12:57.525
And then he knows exactly what he's looking for.

1653
01:12:58.105 --> 01:13:01.925
And we now have the nuisance, um, regulation, if you will,

1654
01:13:02.795 --> 01:13:04.685
that lets him do his job.

1655
01:13:04.785 --> 01:13:07.005
But be specific. We can't just say it's circus.

1656
01:13:07.665 --> 01:13:10.165
We all know that. But each and everything.

1657
01:13:10.345 --> 01:13:12.445
And then he can see what he can do.

1658
01:13:14.945 --> 01:13:16.525
At one of the previous meetings,

1659
01:13:16.965 --> 01:13:18.525
I believe it was Mr. Russell said, you know,

1660
01:13:18.525 --> 01:13:21.245
the residents are starting to get very upset about this.

1661
01:13:21.245 --> 01:13:22.805
Mm-hmm. It's gonna cause problems.

1662
01:13:23.315 --> 01:13:24.925
There's gonna be confrontations.

1663
01:13:25.795 --> 01:13:28.685
Something needs to be done and it needs to be done soon.

1664
01:13:30.175 --> 01:13:31.565
Could I, could I, could I

1665
01:13:32.365 --> 01:13:34.285
I I, I think that something has been done.

1666
01:13:34.865 --> 01:13:39.285
And I, and I think that today, uh, was the, the result

1667
01:13:39.425 --> 01:13:41.845
of something that you folks talked about.

1668
01:13:41.945 --> 01:13:44.205
We talked about at, at one of these meetings,

1669
01:13:44.225 --> 01:13:46.605
the last couple of meetings, they had no teeth.

1670
01:13:47.315 --> 01:13:49.125
They, they weren't able to fight into it.

1671
01:13:49.135 --> 01:13:50.165
Today. They got the fight

1672
01:13:50.465 --> 01:13:51.465
And I understand that. But,

1673
01:13:51.465 --> 01:13:54.285
but we're being told we're we're gonna be another no,

1674
01:13:54.295 --> 01:13:56.045
three to six months before anything goes.

1675
01:13:56.545 --> 01:13:59.245
We have laws that we have, I'm sorry Peter.

1676
01:13:59.425 --> 01:14:01.845
We have laws that we have to abide by.

1677
01:14:02.385 --> 01:14:06.685
We have to post it twice. We have to give it 45 days.

1678
01:14:07.825 --> 01:14:12.045
That's why the nuisance came up today. It's effective today.

1679
01:14:12.465 --> 01:14:13.845
We had to start in January.

1680
01:14:14.665 --> 01:14:16.925
Now we've got this other issue that's going

1681
01:14:16.945 --> 01:14:18.005
to take another four.

1682
01:14:18.515 --> 01:14:21.685
It's not us. That's, that are not doing anything.

1683
01:14:22.385 --> 01:14:25.605
It is, we are following the prescribed laws.

1684
01:14:26.745 --> 01:14:28.565
I'm sorry that you all feel

1685
01:14:28.565 --> 01:14:31.525
that we are not doing anything, but I think we've done

1686
01:14:31.605 --> 01:14:32.685
A lot and, and I think you guys

1687
01:14:32.745 --> 01:14:33.925
are trying to do something.

1688
01:14:33.945 --> 01:14:37.125
The problem is he's not. And, and it's really unfair.

1689
01:14:37.985 --> 01:14:39.605
We have friends that have lived in the

1690
01:14:39.605 --> 01:14:40.645
village for a long time.

1691
01:14:41.615 --> 01:14:44.795
People complained about them having birds in their yard

1692
01:14:45.095 --> 01:14:46.915
or having an alligator in their yard.

1693
01:14:47.095 --> 01:14:48.435
And they had to have 'em removed

1694
01:14:48.435 --> 01:14:50.395
within just a very short time. This guy's

1695
01:14:50.395 --> 01:14:51.955
Not, he's not Following any

1696
01:14:51.955 --> 01:14:55.515
rules. I'm sorry, but

1697
01:14:56.195 --> 01:14:58.035
I understand You understand frustration.

1698
01:14:58.215 --> 01:14:59.795
My frustration here, I you've gotta

1699
01:14:59.795 --> 01:15:01.595
understand our frustration. Yes.

1700
01:15:01.695 --> 01:15:06.675
I'm for

1701
01:15:06.675 --> 01:15:09.195
some reason put this under a seasonal heading.

1702
01:15:09.615 --> 01:15:10.835
And under a seasonal heading,

1703
01:15:10.895 --> 01:15:12.475
you have a problem you have to deal with.

1704
01:15:12.945 --> 01:15:14.155
This isn't a seasonal problem.

1705
01:15:14.615 --> 01:15:16.195
If I left junk all over my lawn,

1706
01:15:16.195 --> 01:15:17.475
you wouldn't call it seasonal.

1707
01:15:17.885 --> 01:15:21.635
You'd come and find me. That's what we have here. Mm-hmm.

1708
01:15:21.975 --> 01:15:24.275
We have to change the definition of what we're looking at

1709
01:15:24.665 --> 01:15:27.835
because the way you've defined it, you now have a process

1710
01:15:27.975 --> 01:15:29.795
that's gonna take forever to deal with

1711
01:15:30.295 --> 01:15:31.675
and still is gonna be object.

1712
01:15:31.675 --> 01:15:36.395
Uh, very subjective. So this is not a situation of seasonal.

1713
01:15:36.625 --> 01:15:39.595
This is a situation of junk in the yard.

1714
01:15:39.975 --> 01:15:41.675
And if you guys look at it, realize

1715
01:15:41.675 --> 01:15:43.195
what it is, we'll fix it.

1716
01:15:43.415 --> 01:15:44.795
But they've already looked at it

1717
01:15:44.895 --> 01:15:46.955
and they've already kind of decided we're not going

1718
01:15:46.955 --> 01:15:49.395
to do anything until we work your process out.

1719
01:15:49.975 --> 01:15:51.915
Uh, you don't want us against you.

1720
01:15:53.415 --> 01:15:56.275
You don't want that because that's not gonna be pretty

1721
01:15:56.535 --> 01:15:57.555
and that will hurt your budget.

1722
01:15:57.775 --> 01:16:00.075
Mm-hmm. So let's figure out

1723
01:16:00.075 --> 01:16:01.395
how we work this a little faster.

1724
01:16:02.555 --> 01:16:03.655
Sir, are you threatening us?

1725
01:16:04.115 --> 01:16:06.175
Oh no. I'm just laying out the way the process

1726
01:16:06.185 --> 01:16:07.895
works. Thank

1727
01:16:07.895 --> 01:16:08.895
You. But it's the law.

1728
01:16:08.895 --> 01:16:10.975
We're following the law and we're doing,

1729
01:16:11.635 --> 01:16:13.855
You're, you're following how you see the law

1730
01:16:13.855 --> 01:16:15.215
and there's defining it.

1731
01:16:15.515 --> 01:16:17.295
I'm saying if you look at that stuff differently,

1732
01:16:17.475 --> 01:16:19.255
you have a completely different approach.

1733
01:16:19.995 --> 01:16:23.575
If that's not seasonal stuff, if it's junk on the lawn,

1734
01:16:23.705 --> 01:16:25.095
don't you have a different approach?

1735
01:16:26.945 --> 01:16:29.295
Could we have our attorney address this

1736
01:16:30.125 --> 01:16:31.125
Mark you want? Mark, you want to

1737
01:16:31.125 --> 01:16:31.575
talk about it?

1738
01:16:32.515 --> 01:16:34.655
I'm not exactly sure what we need to talk about here.

1739
01:16:34.675 --> 01:16:35.735
As you've mentioned, we're doing

1740
01:16:35.735 --> 01:16:37.255
what we can pursuant to the law.

1741
01:16:37.495 --> 01:16:41.335
I understand that they are, um, obviously issues

1742
01:16:41.335 --> 01:16:42.575
with this person's property.

1743
01:16:42.605 --> 01:16:44.055
I've seen some photos.

1744
01:16:44.755 --> 01:16:47.535
You're taking action as you said, you would first off

1745
01:16:47.595 --> 01:16:49.855
by changing and providing actually definition

1746
01:16:49.875 --> 01:16:51.415
so you can enforce some of your rules.

1747
01:16:51.975 --> 01:16:55.135
Secondly, um, the way this has always been done,

1748
01:16:55.135 --> 01:16:58.415
and the way the current rule reads is individuals are

1749
01:16:58.535 --> 01:17:01.895
allowed to have displays for certain periods of time.

1750
01:17:02.315 --> 01:17:04.615
So we're trying, and what the district is trying

1751
01:17:04.615 --> 01:17:08.815
to do is tighten that up and not have holidays,

1752
01:17:09.105 --> 01:17:10.605
but actual seasons.

1753
01:17:11.105 --> 01:17:13.525
But that's sort of what we're working through

1754
01:17:13.525 --> 01:17:17.645
because if it is, you're allowed to have displays for

1755
01:17:18.365 --> 01:17:20.725
holidays, again, you can find a holiday

1756
01:17:20.905 --> 01:17:23.245
for 365 days out of the year.

1757
01:17:23.585 --> 01:17:25.245
So we are trying to tighten that up.

1758
01:17:25.265 --> 01:17:26.645
But again, it's gonna take some time.

1759
01:17:27.225 --> 01:17:30.005
And the law requires that there's advertisements

1760
01:17:30.005 --> 01:17:31.125
before you change rules.

1761
01:17:31.585 --> 01:17:33.085
Uh, that there's public hearings.

1762
01:17:33.545 --> 01:17:36.165
You have been acting, uh, you asked for this change

1763
01:17:36.225 --> 01:17:37.925
to the nuisance to add nuisance.

1764
01:17:38.435 --> 01:17:40.605
Last time we met it was on your agenda.

1765
01:17:41.025 --> 01:17:43.685
Um, we're doing the same thing with seasons displays.

1766
01:17:44.145 --> 01:17:45.405
Um, so it is a process

1767
01:17:45.705 --> 01:17:47.805
and you said it at the very beginning of the meeting.

1768
01:17:48.265 --> 01:17:49.965
Um, we're chipping away at it slowly.

1769
01:17:50.305 --> 01:17:54.725
Um, but I'm not sure what else from a legal side we can do.

1770
01:17:54.725 --> 01:17:58.875
Because your current rule allows seasonal displays.

1771
01:17:59.065 --> 01:18:01.075
Your current, your current, your current rule.

1772
01:18:01.135 --> 01:18:02.195
And I don't have in front of me.

1773
01:18:02.255 --> 01:18:05.915
But, um, it may even say holiday displays. I don't know.

1774
01:18:05.995 --> 01:18:08.595
I don't have in front of me. But again, what you're trying

1775
01:18:08.595 --> 01:18:11.235
to do is, what we're trying to do is tighten that up.

1776
01:18:11.465 --> 01:18:14.235
What I, but it's more enforceable from a legal standpoint.

1777
01:18:14.415 --> 01:18:15.555
And so you have some teeth.

1778
01:18:15.935 --> 01:18:17.475
And so that's kind of what you did today

1779
01:18:17.695 --> 01:18:19.115
and that's what you're gonna do going forward.

1780
01:18:19.855 --> 01:18:22.315
If you continue to call that a seasonal display,

1781
01:18:22.655 --> 01:18:24.355
you continue to go down that avenue.

1782
01:18:25.125 --> 01:18:28.235
Again, if I were to just pile stuff on my lawn,

1783
01:18:28.455 --> 01:18:30.595
you're not going to call that a seasonal display.

1784
01:18:30.865 --> 01:18:32.715
Even if I invent a holiday for it,

1785
01:18:34.025 --> 01:18:37.235
what you have is something that's not a seasonal display.

1786
01:18:37.415 --> 01:18:40.315
And that's the excuse that's getting not only him away

1787
01:18:40.315 --> 01:18:42.555
with it, but it's giving you an opportunity

1788
01:18:42.815 --> 01:18:44.635
to kinda work this through a long process.

1789
01:18:45.095 --> 01:18:48.395
In the meantime, everyone suffers with the way things look.

1790
01:18:49.905 --> 01:18:52.715
There's nothing else in the villages that, that looks

1791
01:18:52.745 --> 01:18:56.275
that bad that you don't take care of quickly except this.

1792
01:18:56.935 --> 01:18:58.075
And you've got be, it's all

1793
01:18:58.075 --> 01:19:00.275
because you've defined it as holiday.

1794
01:19:00.585 --> 01:19:03.315
This stuff is not holiday. It's junk.

1795
01:19:03.655 --> 01:19:06.835
Define it as what it is. Define it as a nuisance.

1796
01:19:07.215 --> 01:19:09.675
Now you've taken the lighting piece,

1797
01:19:10.295 --> 01:19:12.955
but the whole rest of it needs to be addressed

1798
01:19:13.335 --> 01:19:14.395
as you would address it.

1799
01:19:14.535 --> 01:19:17.715
If I put the stuff in my garage out on my lawn,

1800
01:19:17.975 --> 01:19:20.275
we should try that and see what you think of that.

1801
01:19:21.205 --> 01:19:21.635
Thank you.

1802
01:19:26.055 --> 01:19:27.055
So

1803
01:19:29.825 --> 01:19:32.675
Gary, 3, 2, 7, 5, dress door for drive.

1804
01:19:33.135 --> 01:19:34.875
Uh, you mentioned the, uh, the flagpole.

1805
01:19:34.875 --> 01:19:36.875
He's compliance with the flagpole.

1806
01:19:37.255 --> 01:19:39.355
He has multiple flags out there

1807
01:19:39.935 --> 01:19:43.595
and he has flags draped over the, uh, uh, garage doors.

1808
01:19:44.135 --> 01:19:45.795
So it's not just a flagpole.

1809
01:19:45.795 --> 01:19:47.795
This flag's everywhere, including draped

1810
01:19:47.795 --> 01:19:48.915
over the garage door.

1811
01:19:49.215 --> 01:19:50.995
So that is a concern for all of us.

1812
01:19:51.595 --> 01:19:55.035
I, every I see that he, he has installed a new flagpole,

1813
01:19:55.135 --> 01:19:57.515
but there's others there that needs to be addressed.

1814
01:19:57.945 --> 01:20:01.835
Another question I have is being behind him, he has debris

1815
01:20:02.485 --> 01:20:04.435
piled up, uh, in the back of his house.

1816
01:20:05.155 --> 01:20:08.005
I submitted a complaint to CDD, uh,

1817
01:20:08.285 --> 01:20:09.405
I never got any feedback.

1818
01:20:09.485 --> 01:20:12.825
I don't know if, uh, you get feedback or not,

1819
01:20:13.205 --> 01:20:16.545
but nothing has been done about all the debris on the,

1820
01:20:16.605 --> 01:20:18.305
on the landing outside the house.

1821
01:20:18.925 --> 01:20:23.025
And uh, there's also, uh, bottles of Noel is alcohol.

1822
01:20:24.005 --> 01:20:27.465
Uh, in there, in the, in, in the baking in the sun.

1823
01:20:27.965 --> 01:20:30.225
It appears to me that could be a hazard as well.

1824
01:20:30.565 --> 01:20:34.145
So it goes beyond the seasonal, uh, decorations.

1825
01:20:34.165 --> 01:20:36.985
It goes beyond the, the junk and the, and the driveway.

1826
01:20:37.535 --> 01:20:39.385
It's the flag issue, which is a problem.

1827
01:20:39.725 --> 01:20:41.745
And there's debris problem in the backyard.

1828
01:20:42.285 --> 01:20:45.065
If I need to submit another complaint, I will

1829
01:20:45.175 --> 01:20:47.985
because that, uh, these problems need to be addressed.

1830
01:20:48.145 --> 01:20:49.865
I think you should, I think you should.

1831
01:20:50.085 --> 01:20:52.465
But did we receive feedback when we submit?

1832
01:20:52.565 --> 01:20:54.265
If you put your name on it, they'll get back

1833
01:20:54.265 --> 01:20:55.625
To you. I did. I never heard

1834
01:20:55.825 --> 01:20:56.825
Anything. Um, I don't know that

1835
01:20:56.825 --> 01:20:57.665
the community standards,

1836
01:21:08.205 --> 01:21:10.905
If the complainant leaves full contact information,

1837
01:21:11.185 --> 01:21:12.585
requests information to be

1838
01:21:12.745 --> 01:21:14.825
provided back to them, we will do that as a courtesy.

1839
01:21:14.825 --> 01:21:16.665
But we do not continuously monitor

1840
01:21:16.685 --> 01:21:18.705
and continue to go back to the complainant over and over

1841
01:21:18.705 --> 01:21:21.065
and over again to provide information.

1842
01:21:21.065 --> 01:21:23.865
If they have inquiries into it, they can contact our office

1843
01:21:23.885 --> 01:21:25.345
and we can give 'em the latest update.

1844
01:21:25.895 --> 01:21:27.905
When it comes to anything behind homes

1845
01:21:28.085 --> 01:21:30.265
or non-visible from the street, we are not allowed

1846
01:21:30.265 --> 01:21:31.705
to trespass on people's property.

1847
01:21:32.045 --> 01:21:34.105
So the complainant will need to provide information,

1848
01:21:34.105 --> 01:21:36.905
including pictures for the packets that are

1849
01:21:37.185 --> 01:21:38.625
provided to the homeowner, which again,

1850
01:21:38.625 --> 01:21:40.265
are all gonna be subject to public record.

1851
01:21:40.885 --> 01:21:43.105
Um, 'cause we have to inform the individual where

1852
01:21:43.105 --> 01:21:45.265
that information came from if we're not the ones providing

1853
01:21:45.265 --> 01:21:46.865
it by going out and taking the pictures ourselves.

1854
01:21:46.885 --> 01:21:49.305
So we would need access to people's personal properties

1855
01:21:49.405 --> 01:21:50.545
as well in order

1856
01:21:50.545 --> 01:21:52.625
to take pictures from anything not visible from the streets.

1857
01:21:52.845 --> 01:21:53.945
But you can address the things in

1858
01:21:53.945 --> 01:21:55.585
behind the house too. Then what you're telling me.

1859
01:21:55.805 --> 01:21:58.625
If, if they provide, if the complainant provides pictures

1860
01:21:58.685 --> 01:22:01.185
or they're there with us when we go to their property so

1861
01:22:01.185 --> 01:22:03.505
that we're not trespassing on their property, uh,

1862
01:22:03.645 --> 01:22:05.665
we can take pictures of any concerns

1863
01:22:05.665 --> 01:22:07.145
that are not visible from the street via that

1864
01:22:07.145 --> 01:22:08.145
Method. If, if I recall

1865
01:22:08.145 --> 01:22:09.705
in our, one of our previous meetings,

1866
01:22:09.735 --> 01:22:11.345
this issue was brought up about when,

1867
01:22:11.375 --> 01:22:12.785
when community standards went out

1868
01:22:13.045 --> 01:22:15.625
and they were, they were called for a specific issue.

1869
01:22:16.325 --> 01:22:19.585
You had, we gave you the latitude to go around the house

1870
01:22:19.965 --> 01:22:23.185
or anything else without of compliance and to,

1871
01:22:23.205 --> 01:22:24.705
and to pull those in too. Correct.

1872
01:22:24.845 --> 01:22:27.265
So those are for meat and clean. So those would be issues.

1873
01:22:27.295 --> 01:22:29.905
Tall grass and weeds, overgrown hedges, um,

1874
01:22:30.395 --> 01:22:31.865
weeds growing, algae growth.

1875
01:22:32.705 --> 01:22:34.825
Anything that had to do with the landscaping concerns

1876
01:22:34.825 --> 01:22:36.705
that could be brought together underneath the meet

1877
01:22:36.705 --> 01:22:39.465
and clean rule Architectural review

1878
01:22:39.465 --> 01:22:40.625
is a completely different rule.

1879
01:22:40.785 --> 01:22:41.825
I understand That. Just as any other,

1880
01:22:41.845 --> 01:22:42.905
so it can't combine rules,

1881
01:22:42.925 --> 01:22:44.625
but if it's underneath one rule, we can,

1882
01:22:44.645 --> 01:22:45.945
we can look at it from that aspect.

1883
01:22:45.945 --> 01:22:47.225
And that's what we did under meet and clean.

1884
01:22:47.255 --> 01:22:50.025
Okay. So so your recommendation to these folks or

1885
01:22:50.025 --> 01:22:52.185
because they're throwing a lot of different specific status

1886
01:22:52.255 --> 01:22:54.745
like cables on the, on the lawn and things like that.

1887
01:22:54.975 --> 01:22:55.985
I've been logging them as

1888
01:22:55.985 --> 01:22:57.265
they've been shouting 'em out to the,

1889
01:22:57.685 --> 01:22:58.685
To the board. Okay. So, so

1890
01:22:58.685 --> 01:23:00.185
we need to get those, they need

1891
01:23:00.185 --> 01:23:01.625
to make sure they get this logged with you

1892
01:23:01.765 --> 01:23:03.665
and then you're gonna go ahead out there and address it.

1893
01:23:03.665 --> 01:23:04.665
Correct. Okay.

1894
01:23:07.945 --> 01:23:10.365
Uh, I'll submit another, uh, complaint

1895
01:23:10.905 --> 01:23:12.485
and I'll also ask for fee.

1896
01:23:12.565 --> 01:23:13.805
I did not ask for feedback.

1897
01:23:13.925 --> 01:23:16.405
I assume that would automatically give me the feedback

1898
01:23:16.945 --> 01:23:19.445
and also will provide permission to answer my property

1899
01:23:19.745 --> 01:23:22.365
so they can physically view the issue. Thank

1900
01:23:22.365 --> 01:23:23.365
You. Okay. Thank you. Yeah,

1901
01:23:23.365 --> 01:23:23.685
do that.

1902
01:23:26.305 --> 01:23:28.325
Hi, I just know there one you had said you

1903
01:23:28.325 --> 01:23:29.725
haven't been passed the property. I'm

1904
01:23:29.725 --> 01:23:30.725
Sorry ma'am. I'm

1905
01:23:30.725 --> 01:23:31.765
sorry. I know that you've,

1906
01:23:31.835 --> 01:23:32.835
What, what is your name?

1907
01:23:33.105 --> 01:23:35.925
I'm sorry. Michelle Gainor. I live on Coleman. Okay.

1908
01:23:36.185 --> 01:23:38.805
Um, I heard you say, some of you say

1909
01:23:38.805 --> 01:23:40.525
that you have not been passed the property

1910
01:23:40.885 --> 01:23:41.885
I have been by.

1911
01:23:41.885 --> 01:23:44.685
I appreciate it. I would like you all to go day and night.

1912
01:23:44.715 --> 01:23:46.565
It's not only the lights, it's the fact

1913
01:23:46.565 --> 01:23:47.885
that it looks like a freaking

1914
01:23:48.485 --> 01:23:49.485
I know garbage. I've

1915
01:23:49.485 --> 01:23:50.565
seen it. I've seen it. So

1916
01:23:50.635 --> 01:23:52.805
What I'd like to say is how would you all like

1917
01:23:52.805 --> 01:23:54.365
to live next to that or near it

1918
01:23:54.385 --> 01:23:56.445
and worry about your value of your house

1919
01:23:57.065 --> 01:23:58.445
or even to deal with that

1920
01:23:59.025 --> 01:24:01.845
and realize what, how frustrated we

1921
01:24:01.845 --> 01:24:03.045
Are? I understand. Go

1922
01:24:03.045 --> 01:24:04.045
Through your rules. I

1923
01:24:04.045 --> 01:24:07.525
get that. But please, we need help sooner rather

1924
01:24:07.525 --> 01:24:08.525
Than later. And what

1925
01:24:08.525 --> 01:24:09.805
I would suggest is, and

1926
01:24:09.805 --> 01:24:12.085
and I said that earlier, I I wouldn't want, I,

1927
01:24:12.245 --> 01:24:14.285
I really appreciate the fact that what you guys are doing,

1928
01:24:14.365 --> 01:24:15.445
I wouldn't wanna be living next door.

1929
01:24:15.605 --> 01:24:17.525
I said that earlier. Thank you. And I think what you need

1930
01:24:17.525 --> 01:24:18.725
to do is to make sure

1931
01:24:18.965 --> 01:24:21.365
that you have a specific, let them know.

1932
01:24:22.005 --> 01:24:24.045
'cause we want them to go out there. Okay? Okay.

1933
01:24:24.215 --> 01:24:24.685
Thank you.

1934
01:24:32.865 --> 01:24:34.965
Robert. Lowell. 3, 2, 9, 2 webs

1935
01:24:34.965 --> 01:24:36.885
to way I have a specific complaint.

1936
01:24:37.225 --> 01:24:40.325
The inflatables all over the lawn during the day.

1937
01:24:40.865 --> 01:24:43.485
He wants to take him in, put 'em out at night. Okay.

1938
01:24:43.705 --> 01:24:46.565
But not leave 'em out all day long. Deflated.

1939
01:24:46.565 --> 01:24:47.685
If he wants to inflate him

1940
01:24:47.685 --> 01:24:49.365
during the day, maybe that's legal.

1941
01:24:50.115 --> 01:24:52.165
Okay. Did you want, we wanna put that a complaint.

1942
01:24:52.875 --> 01:24:54.765
Tell him about it. Let him know. Okay.

1943
01:24:57.995 --> 01:24:59.565
He's, he's logging now. Okay.

1944
01:25:03.035 --> 01:25:05.645
Judy Bryant 32 61 Webster Way.

1945
01:25:06.145 --> 01:25:10.125
Um, my question is on this new thing between seasonal

1946
01:25:10.225 --> 01:25:11.885
and holiday, are we trying

1947
01:25:11.885 --> 01:25:14.605
to change it from holiday to seasonal?

1948
01:25:14.785 --> 01:25:17.405
Are we taking it from seasonal to holiday?

1949
01:25:19.105 --> 01:25:20.325
You you wanna address that

1950
01:25:20.325 --> 01:25:22.525
because that you guys are working on that? I

1951
01:25:22.525 --> 01:25:23.525
Don't have it in front of me.

1952
01:25:23.605 --> 01:25:24.765
I I don't have it in front of me.

1953
01:25:25.225 --> 01:25:27.885
Um, we have looked at seasonal,

1954
01:25:27.885 --> 01:25:29.005
but I don't have the rule in front of me. But,

1955
01:25:29.005 --> 01:25:31.085
But the whole issue is this, I think fundamentally is

1956
01:25:31.295 --> 01:25:34.925
we're trying to restrict it so that it's not wise.

1957
01:25:35.695 --> 01:25:36.765
We're trying, that's what they're trying to do.

1958
01:25:36.765 --> 01:25:38.165
They're trying to narrow it down

1959
01:25:38.385 --> 01:25:40.405
and say, you wanna celebrate St.

1960
01:25:40.405 --> 01:25:42.605
Patrick's Day? Here's what, here's the window

1961
01:25:42.675 --> 01:25:43.885
that you can only do it.

1962
01:25:43.945 --> 01:25:45.565
You can't extend it, this and that.

1963
01:25:45.975 --> 01:25:48.525
Which, because St. Patrick's Day isn't actually a holiday.

1964
01:25:48.635 --> 01:25:50.085
Well, I, I just, but no,

1965
01:25:50.265 --> 01:25:52.285
But, but that's why when he said that his,

1966
01:25:52.625 --> 01:25:55.045
his things on his garage door Yeah.

1967
01:25:55.145 --> 01:25:56.445
Are all St. Patrick's Day.

1968
01:25:56.465 --> 01:25:58.325
And I thought it's not even a holiday yet.

1969
01:25:58.325 --> 01:26:00.165
He's allowed to have it up for 30 days.

1970
01:26:00.355 --> 01:26:02.885
Well the the issue with that is that the rule doesn't

1971
01:26:03.805 --> 01:26:06.485
explicitly say what holidays or what is a holiday.

1972
01:26:06.585 --> 01:26:08.805
We don't even have a list of holidays there.

1973
01:26:08.825 --> 01:26:10.205
So that's what we're trying to fix.

1974
01:26:10.335 --> 01:26:13.925
We're trying to create an enforceable rule.

1975
01:26:15.155 --> 01:26:18.565
Okay. But so you're trying to enforce holidays not

1976
01:26:18.565 --> 01:26:19.565
Seasonal. We're trying

1977
01:26:19.565 --> 01:26:20.685
to create something

1978
01:26:20.685 --> 01:26:22.845
that we can enforce right now.

1979
01:26:23.235 --> 01:26:25.245
There's no definition of holidays.

1980
01:26:25.585 --> 01:26:27.525
So they can say, well, it's St Patty's day.

1981
01:26:27.625 --> 01:26:32.205
And you know, we have no teeth in our rule to say, well

1982
01:26:32.205 --> 01:26:33.285
that's not recognized.

1983
01:26:33.285 --> 01:26:35.365
You can't have it there. We're trying to tighten that up.

1984
01:26:35.545 --> 01:26:38.445
And we hopefully we'll tighten up. The 30 day.

1985
01:26:38.605 --> 01:26:40.845
I can understand certain things would be 30 days.

1986
01:26:40.945 --> 01:26:44.125
But to have every single I agree thing. 30 days

1987
01:26:44.345 --> 01:26:45.345
Is crazy. It's

1988
01:26:45.345 --> 01:26:47.605
crazy. It's crazy. Thank you.

1989
01:26:48.185 --> 01:26:51.685
So, so Mark, isn't there something in there that we have

1990
01:26:51.795 --> 01:26:54.485
that you can't put things on your, on your house

1991
01:26:54.505 --> 01:26:57.245
and your door and garage door and all that stuff?

1992
01:26:58.025 --> 01:27:01.165
Not with respect to seasonal displays currently, which is

1993
01:27:01.165 --> 01:27:02.805
what we're working on to Yeah.

1994
01:27:03.675 --> 01:27:07.125
Make it more restrictive without the unintended consequences

1995
01:27:07.345 --> 01:27:10.245
of no one being allowed to decorate for anything.

1996
01:27:10.825 --> 01:27:13.165
But we want to prevent, um,

1997
01:27:13.225 --> 01:27:15.125
and we've heard from the board what's currently

1998
01:27:15.125 --> 01:27:16.205
occurring, right.

1999
01:27:16.295 --> 01:27:19.925
Which is a very broad interpretation of seasonal.

2000
01:27:20.275 --> 01:27:22.685
Okay. Yes. It's okay.

2001
01:27:23.345 --> 01:27:26.485
So is it, i i i, is it fair to assume

2002
01:27:26.485 --> 01:27:29.485
that these folks live in a live, in a, in the neighborhood

2003
01:27:29.495 --> 01:27:31.365
where, where we

2004
01:27:31.365 --> 01:27:34.645
as a community have never experienced this before?

2005
01:27:35.505 --> 01:27:38.005
So, because, because that's the case.

2006
01:27:38.385 --> 01:27:40.245
We, the rules are not in place

2007
01:27:40.585 --> 01:27:43.485
and that we need to create the rules to fix the problem.

2008
01:27:44.625 --> 01:27:46.085
That's a fair statement. Yes.

2009
01:27:46.225 --> 01:27:49.445
The, the rules are being rewritten to address

2010
01:27:50.005 --> 01:27:51.245
problems that have come up.

2011
01:27:51.865 --> 01:27:56.005
And as with all forms of legalese,

2012
01:27:56.705 --> 01:27:57.845
it takes time.

2013
01:27:58.935 --> 01:28:01.965
There, there, there are time factors that are involved in,

2014
01:28:01.985 --> 01:28:03.885
in bringing this whole process forward.

2015
01:28:04.145 --> 01:28:07.565
So, you know, I understand the lack of patience, but I,

2016
01:28:07.785 --> 01:28:11.365
but I, I, I just want everybody, from my standpoint, I think

2017
01:28:11.365 --> 01:28:14.365
that, that it is important to know that we as a group

2018
01:28:14.505 --> 01:28:17.885
and collectively as a district government are trying

2019
01:28:17.885 --> 01:28:20.205
to move the process forward as quickly

2020
01:28:20.385 --> 01:28:22.005
as we can legally do that.

2021
01:28:22.445 --> 01:28:24.645
I, I, I think the problem is this, um,

2022
01:28:25.265 --> 01:28:26.445
if you look at the reports

2023
01:28:26.445 --> 01:28:28.885
that we get from community standards on

2024
01:28:29.035 --> 01:28:31.965
what we get quarterly, twice, twice a year

2025
01:28:31.965 --> 01:28:33.485
or something like that, we get a, a report.

2026
01:28:34.305 --> 01:28:38.325
And a lot of these, when somebody is like out of compliance

2027
01:28:38.345 --> 01:28:40.645
and it could be a minor stuff, they go to 'em,

2028
01:28:40.645 --> 01:28:42.805
they fix it right away, it gets fixed.

2029
01:28:43.825 --> 01:28:46.125
And, and I'd say what high percentage?

2030
01:28:46.745 --> 01:28:50.205
Get 90 some percent or maybe more than that gets resolved.

2031
01:28:50.775 --> 01:28:54.845
We're dealing with a one person problem right now that's,

2032
01:28:54.865 --> 01:28:57.845
that's kind of pushing the whole limit of everything.

2033
01:28:57.865 --> 01:29:00.125
And that's the problem. So now we're into legal

2034
01:29:00.185 --> 01:29:02.485
and we're into the state, we're into laws

2035
01:29:02.955 --> 01:29:04.205
that we wouldn't even face

2036
01:29:04.205 --> 01:29:07.405
with if somebody were just logically approach it

2037
01:29:07.405 --> 01:29:09.405
by their neighbors and say, you know what,

2038
01:29:09.555 --> 01:29:10.765
okay, I'm out of bounds.

2039
01:29:11.065 --> 01:29:13.165
Let me pull it in. But he's not doing it.

2040
01:29:13.185 --> 01:29:15.285
And that's the problem we're faced with right now.

2041
01:29:15.305 --> 01:29:18.645
And that's the frustration that they're having we're having.

2042
01:29:19.185 --> 01:29:21.685
And then I'm sure the legal people are trying to deal

2043
01:29:21.685 --> 01:29:23.405
with it too, and how to get around it.

2044
01:29:23.785 --> 01:29:25.565
So we're all dealing because of one person.

2045
01:29:25.945 --> 01:29:28.885
And that's the issue. And it is frustrating to us.

2046
01:29:32.365 --> 01:29:34.445
I make a motion to adjourn. I

2047
01:29:34.445 --> 01:29:35.445
Second.

2048
01:29:35.525 --> 01:29:38.085
I have, I have. Oh, okay.

2049
01:29:39.715 --> 01:29:42.685
Okay. Maria Cha. 3, 2, 8, 4 Webster way.

2050
01:29:43.205 --> 01:29:44.405
Remember I said I'm from New York.

2051
01:29:44.905 --> 01:29:47.805
The solution is you all, you go to him.

2052
01:29:47.875 --> 01:29:50.445
This guy, I don't know his name. That's

2053
01:29:50.445 --> 01:29:51.485
Matt Max. He,

2054
01:29:51.705 --> 01:29:54.005
He, he, he's the one, the one

2055
01:29:54.005 --> 01:29:56.085
that's CNY standard that have to talk to us. Should

2056
01:29:56.085 --> 01:29:57.325
He take it Chick one of your neighbors

2057
01:29:57.325 --> 01:29:58.725
that does the diplomatic work.

2058
01:29:58.725 --> 01:30:02.405
Where is he's back there that negotiates well with him.

2059
01:30:02.945 --> 01:30:05.085
And I think what you should do is go to him

2060
01:30:05.085 --> 01:30:06.405
and say, look, we had our meeting,

2061
01:30:06.455 --> 01:30:08.325
we've been discussing this with the neighbors.

2062
01:30:08.605 --> 01:30:09.845
Everyone is very upset. Yes.

2063
01:30:09.865 --> 01:30:12.205
Nobody really wants to be your friend

2064
01:30:12.205 --> 01:30:13.925
because you're not acting like a friend.

2065
01:30:14.435 --> 01:30:16.765
Like when you talk to two year olds and three year olds.

2066
01:30:17.185 --> 01:30:18.765
And I think what should be said to him is,

2067
01:30:18.765 --> 01:30:19.845
you need to take everything off.

2068
01:30:19.845 --> 01:30:20.885
That doesn't belong here.

2069
01:30:21.175 --> 01:30:23.325
While we're still thinking what we're gonna allow you to do,

2070
01:30:23.325 --> 01:30:25.445
but you have to do it because to make your neighbors

2071
01:30:25.445 --> 01:30:27.885
and everybody in the villages happy

2072
01:30:28.305 --> 01:30:30.805
and in compliance, you need to take the stuff down,

2073
01:30:31.315 --> 01:30:33.005
take it off the lawn, it's garbage.

2074
01:30:33.145 --> 01:30:35.365
It doesn't look nice. You could tell him it's whatever.

2075
01:30:35.515 --> 01:30:38.325
It's not pretty, but you need to tell him to take it off

2076
01:30:38.325 --> 01:30:39.605
because this can't keep exci.

2077
01:30:39.605 --> 01:30:41.445
It's just getting worse. And every time he hears that,

2078
01:30:41.625 --> 01:30:42.805
I'm gonna tell you what he's gonna do tomorrow.

2079
01:30:42.825 --> 01:30:44.925
Mm-hmm. There's gonna be more stuff on the lawn tomorrow.

2080
01:30:45.165 --> 01:30:46.725
'cause we'll take pictures tonight and prove it

2081
01:30:46.725 --> 01:30:48.965
because as soon as he hears that we're going against him,

2082
01:30:49.155 --> 01:30:50.245
this is what he's gonna do.

2083
01:30:50.635 --> 01:30:52.445
Like when you tell a child you can't go

2084
01:30:52.445 --> 01:30:53.685
outside, they're gonna run outside.

2085
01:30:53.845 --> 01:30:55.725
I know, okay, this is what's gonna happen

2086
01:30:55.745 --> 01:30:56.965
and he's gonna keep doing it.

2087
01:30:57.315 --> 01:30:59.445
He's a time bomb waiting to explode. Mm-hmm.

2088
01:30:59.525 --> 01:31:00.325
And if this doesn't get

2089
01:31:00.485 --> 01:31:02.005
diffused, it's gonna be a real issue.

2090
01:31:02.125 --> 01:31:03.765
I don't wanna be on date long, in 60 minutes.

2091
01:31:03.885 --> 01:31:06.325
I watch enough of it. So I really think this has

2092
01:31:06.325 --> 01:31:07.885
to be resolved like now.

2093
01:31:08.115 --> 01:31:09.725
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

2094
01:31:13.975 --> 01:31:16.245
We're only gonna take one more take. One more.

2095
01:31:18.365 --> 01:31:21.525
I just want to say thank you. I feel better.

2096
01:31:27.395 --> 01:31:28.485
Okay. One more. And that's it.

2097
01:31:28.485 --> 01:31:30.045
And we're gonna, we're gonna have to wrap this up.

2098
01:31:39.985 --> 01:31:43.445
Uh, I'm Rhonda Hansen, 32 76 Webster Way.

2099
01:31:44.045 --> 01:31:45.165
I have a question. Mm-hmm.

2100
01:31:45.695 --> 01:31:46.845
There are easements in all

2101
01:31:46.845 --> 01:31:49.205
of our yards from the street. Correct. Next

2102
01:31:49.205 --> 01:31:49.965
Door neighbors. Correct.

2103
01:31:50.585 --> 01:31:53.325
Is it against the law, against the rules

2104
01:31:53.425 --> 01:31:55.005
to have this stuff in easement?

2105
01:31:55.405 --> 01:31:57.685
N it it, i There is an issue with the easement.

2106
01:31:57.825 --> 01:32:01.485
Yes, I know there is. Yeah. Matt can maybe talk about it.

2107
01:32:01.805 --> 01:32:02.885
I don't wanna talk out of school, but

2108
01:32:02.885 --> 01:32:04.445
because things are up, but you, I know you can't

2109
01:32:04.445 --> 01:32:05.445
Do things. He pull, he

2110
01:32:05.445 --> 01:32:08.085
pull. As soon as he pulls 'em back, give him two

2111
01:32:08.085 --> 01:32:09.205
or three days, it changes night.

2112
01:32:09.325 --> 01:32:11.845
I swear to God. It changes every night. They creep up again.

2113
01:32:13.075 --> 01:32:16.045
They, they have been. And I, I it was you.

2114
01:32:16.125 --> 01:32:18.285
I saw you because they're right next door

2115
01:32:18.745 --> 01:32:20.965
and you told him no, they were in my yard.

2116
01:32:22.385 --> 01:32:23.885
So some of his stuff wasn't.

2117
01:32:23.905 --> 01:32:26.605
And you did and I appreciate it. You told him no.

2118
01:32:27.625 --> 01:32:30.165
And so I just need to know, is it okay for that to be

2119
01:32:30.395 --> 01:32:33.605
Well if I, I wanna speak for Matt, but if he's been told

2120
01:32:34.265 --> 01:32:37.245
and he moves back, you let 'em know again. Not yet.

2121
01:32:37.245 --> 01:32:38.645
Give it a couple Weeks. Well,

2122
01:32:39.405 --> 01:32:41.445
whenever it happens, yeah, let him know. Go ahead.

2123
01:32:41.705 --> 01:32:43.885
No, I just said that. Is that something that can at,

2124
01:32:43.885 --> 01:32:44.885
Yeah. Matt, do you wanna talk about the easement?

2125
01:32:44.885 --> 01:32:45.005
I

2126
01:32:45.245 --> 01:32:45.685
I don't wanna talk

2127
01:32:45.685 --> 01:32:46.685
About it. That's a way

2128
01:32:46.685 --> 01:32:48.645
to at least contain it back

2129
01:32:48.795 --> 01:32:50.045
away from everybody.

2130
01:32:50.475 --> 01:32:51.605
Yeah, thank, sorry.

2131
01:32:53.835 --> 01:32:55.965
When it comes to easements is typically dealing

2132
01:32:55.995 --> 01:32:57.805
with your landscaping, you're not allowed

2133
01:32:57.805 --> 01:32:59.085
to have anything in the road right away.

2134
01:32:59.085 --> 01:33:01.805
Which he did remove the things from the road RightWay.

2135
01:33:01.905 --> 01:33:03.365
Um, I do know he had different signs

2136
01:33:03.365 --> 01:33:04.845
and different things like that as well.

2137
01:33:04.985 --> 01:33:06.405
So he had to pull those back.

2138
01:33:07.025 --> 01:33:08.685
Um, signs are still not permitted,

2139
01:33:09.185 --> 01:33:11.765
but when we get a complaint, we will address those as well.

2140
01:33:12.825 --> 01:33:15.725
Um, the side yard easements, it is again

2141
01:33:15.725 --> 01:33:16.965
for landscaping purposes.

2142
01:33:16.965 --> 01:33:19.165
You can't have vertical construction in your easements.

2143
01:33:19.585 --> 01:33:21.485
Um, you, your landscaping beds can be three

2144
01:33:21.485 --> 01:33:22.565
feet from your property line.

2145
01:33:23.065 --> 01:33:24.685
Uh, he was on someone else's property.

2146
01:33:24.725 --> 01:33:26.165
I did point that out to him saying you need

2147
01:33:26.165 --> 01:33:27.565
to completely move that from their property

2148
01:33:27.665 --> 01:33:28.885
and bring it onto your property.

2149
01:33:28.885 --> 01:33:32.485
Which he did. And, um, including

2150
01:33:32.615 --> 01:33:35.485
where the flagpole was located, he had to move it in order

2151
01:33:35.485 --> 01:33:36.765
to get it out of the road right away.

2152
01:33:36.785 --> 01:33:39.765
So he has, again, with communication

2153
01:33:40.105 --> 01:33:41.765
and continuous

2154
01:33:42.005 --> 01:33:45.325
communication moved things around.

2155
01:33:45.875 --> 01:33:48.445
Matt, while you had, uh, can you also check,

2156
01:33:48.965 --> 01:33:49.965
I heard there was mult.

2157
01:33:50.105 --> 01:33:52.925
If he has permission to do multiple flagpoles or only

2158
01:33:52.945 --> 01:33:55.005
One, you can have three flagpoles on your property.

2159
01:33:55.105 --> 01:33:58.285
You can have three Per, per Florida statute. Seven 20.

2160
01:33:58.285 --> 01:34:00.485
You're allowed two portable flagpoles on your property.

2161
01:34:00.625 --> 01:34:03.005
Within the architectural review manual, you're allowed

2162
01:34:03.005 --> 01:34:05.525
to have a 22 foot stat permanent flagpole,

2163
01:34:05.525 --> 01:34:07.565
which he does have, which did make permanent,

2164
01:34:07.565 --> 01:34:09.085
he did get ARC approval for it.

2165
01:34:09.305 --> 01:34:11.205
He has the one portable one on the side of his house,

2166
01:34:11.655 --> 01:34:13.685
which again, with those two flagpoles,

2167
01:34:13.685 --> 01:34:15.085
you can fly whatever flag you want.

2168
01:34:15.085 --> 01:34:16.085
We are content neutral.

2169
01:34:16.425 --> 01:34:19.285
The one that is very specific under Florida statute seven 20

2170
01:34:19.625 --> 01:34:22.045
is it must be an American flag first responder flag,

2171
01:34:22.325 --> 01:34:23.525
military flag, or State of Florida flag,

2172
01:34:23.525 --> 01:34:25.965
which he is flying currently. Okay.

2173
01:34:26.275 --> 01:34:29.685
Alright. Aye. Thanks ma'am. Okay.

2174
01:34:29.685 --> 01:34:31.285
Still make that motion. Okay.

2175
01:34:31.605 --> 01:34:34.725
I still second. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye.

2176
01:34:34.755 --> 01:34:35.685
Okay. Meeting adjourn.